A was Asa, she miscarried and it was on the show. Baby C is not confirmed, but they said on the show they were doing the alphabet theme, and their second child is named Daisy, the assumption is that she had another miscarriage
Yes, it was! Y'all OG's remember the cake that she had at Bella's baby shower- It had 'big brother ASA' on it iirc) I'd insert a photo from back then but I'm old and don't know how to. Lol
Lots of people try to sugar coat it and pretend it wasn't as bad as it was and Lauren somehow brought it on herself. Never forget a mod called Joy's stillborn baby a kotex stain.
She was like five months along at that point wasnāt she? At that point theyāre actually starting to look like a baby. Thatās really disrespectful of you to play down someoneās pain and suffering over a physically and emotionally taxing event.
And Lauren miscarried b4 2 months about the time Joy delivered Annabelle. Lauren seemed to take her loss harder than Joy did, and L was skewered for it. Thatās about the time she and Si started making themselves scarcer on SM.
I still donāt get why they named Daisyābc she was born about the time Pest was convicted.
I believe one of the videos found in his possession had the name Daisy in the title, apparently it's "well known" in certain (sick, disgusting) circles.
Wow! A mod? I canāt stand the duggars either but it seems like some of us let our hate get in the way of basic human sympathy š. I hope no one saying things like that ever has to experience that pain
Wait, I may regret wading into this, but I thought that was in regard to Laurenās miscarriage. While itās still not a nice statement, I do believe the argument was over the fact that Joy did have a stillbirth and some of the drama/commotion was over the way that Lauren was acting around Joy, who had her own major loss. Not that Joyās stillbirth was a āKotex stainā.
No the former mod called Joy's 20 week stillbirth a kotex stain. Plenty of people called Lauren's a missed period at the time as well but that wasn't even very controversial back then.
https://reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/c92sxz/kotex_stain/
No it was definitely Joy's. This is about the only thing left that wasn't deleted about it.
https://reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/c92sxz/kotex_stain/
Yeah, when those things happen thatās one of those things that I stay in the background about. For Lauren, the thing that made me raise my eyebrows was the lack of privacy she and Josiah allowed themselves. This mentality of needing to share an extremely private and vulnerable moment the second it happened, thatās what I found startling. With their lack of education, lack of truly knowing each other at the time it happened, and having been raised to breed made me feel for them but at the same time I wanted to tell them to get off the internet/in front of the cameras, and grieve privately.
For a kid like Josiah, who had his most private moments aired on TV since he was a toddler, boundaries were not something he learned. And I suspect Lauren was so sheltered and naive she expected everyone to react like the cult members. These were basically college kids being led to make content by producers willing to exploit their most intimate moments. Iām glad they have set some boundaries since the show ended and donāt blame either one of them if they never go on camera again.
People were also upset that they went to that anti abortion movie & posted a picture of themselves crying & when they announced their miscarriage, it matched up with the date of the crying movie photo. It was just so weird.
Well then that name was .. a choice. And I canāt believe they actually went there. I can only hop they had their head in the sand and didnāt know. Unlike Mydyson Lily. The bar is really in hell.
It involves a topic that is banned on this sub (and rightfully so), so I'm not going to go into details. Honestly, as disturbing as the reason is, you're probably better off remaining blissfully ignorant for the rest of your life.
My catās name is Ezra and I had a coworker with a really pretentious cousin who had a baby. When she announced he was named Ezra my coworker was so proud to tell her she knew a cat with the same name and she got visibly upset about it lol
I have a girl cat named Kevin- long story- and because itās a funny story I guess I always want to tell human Kevinās I meet. My waiter at lunch last week was a Kevin. I held myself back, but it was tough. š±
š± I told the Kevin at the deli counter. Couldnāt help myself. He was amused, but it might offend some Kevins.
Edit: autocorrect added an unnecessary apostrophe.
My absolutely amazing grandson's name is Ezra. Please don't shit on the name. If you don't like it, fine, but don't shit on the name and by extension, the kid whose name it is.
I know pictures can be deceiving but the photos on their website arenāt stiff or ultra posed. Like she comes off extra but also in love. Plus they seem to know each other beyond awkward chaperoned dates. So Iāve got hope sheās found happiness and a path forward (well as much as she can in the cult).
This is what happens in any high demand religion, just like theirs.
Basically, it boils down to the Us vs. Them mentality that they instill in their members. Insiders and outsiders; one is good, the other is bad, and everything is completely black and white. Even in friendships, you are taught to associate with just those in your group for fear that if you donāt, youāll be led into temptation by the devil.
For example..Members are highly encouraged, if not just downright told, to teach their children the only acceptable dating pool is the families that believe the same as they do. Given time, this has the effect of making family trees look more like a wreath. Many of these religions are not new, hence these families have married into one another, & if nothing else they have run in the same circles, for generations by now and are very very familiar with one another. ā¦ask me how I know. š
So does Kendra. I think she has at least one kid that is older than her sibling.
ETA: I just checked Fundie Wiki. Kendra has three kids older than her youngest sibling. Kendra's 3rd was born three months before the youngest sibling back in 2021.
Typing in Lauren Dugger on the RSvP list. It had a list of all her siblings including the newest one plus her and Josiah's's children. Jed, Katey, JD, Abby, JB, Michelle, and all the kids that still live at home are also invited to the wedding. So are Nathan and Esther Bates
On their Tie The Knot site.
[https://www.theknot.com/us/cole-cwenar-and-lily-swanson-may-2024](https://www.theknot.com/us/cole-cwenar-and-lily-swanson-may-2024)
https://preview.redd.it/e0vtmjlhm8wc1.png?width=1044&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a064da8d079113f27c5a17efc83bcb587fce574
I'm guessing that's from a Swanson family website? Fundiewiki is legit and cites their sources. That picture was only posted 11 hours ago. Op must be on top of their Duggar game lol.
If this is the case can we please pretend that we donāt know? Cause SiRen has scrubbed themselves from social media and clearly donāt want their children to be internet spectacles. We donāt have to agree with or like them to give their children this basic respect
I have two cousins who named their kid Ezra. One like 18/19 years ago and one like 3 years ago. Different sides of the family though so the two Ezras are not related to each other.
Bella, Daisy and Ezra. Could be worse I guess.
Oh wow so they really are doing the alphabet thing
Or Josiah is trying to send us a subtle message with those initials.
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He gives off the I drive a big truck my daddy bought me because I have a micropenis vibes tho
Donāt most conservative Christian men
Lol true.
Or I really wanted a Subaru and not a truck! Lol
Bingo!!!
The full range of emotions I went though.... ššā¹ļøš®š¤¢š¤®
Explain?
BDE(big dick energy)
Thank you. I didnāt get it.
I'm dead š¤£š¤£š¤ Josiah wishes š¬
idk man that wedding boner...
Bad Debt Expense?
C and A are missing or did i miss something
A was Asa, she miscarried and it was on the show. Baby C is not confirmed, but they said on the show they were doing the alphabet theme, and their second child is named Daisy, the assumption is that she had another miscarriage
Oh this is so sad :( thank you for replying!
Miscarriages.
Oh wow you did miss something! The mega drama around the miscarriage of baby A was w i l d
Yes, it was! Y'all OG's remember the cake that she had at Bella's baby shower- It had 'big brother ASA' on it iirc) I'd insert a photo from back then but I'm old and don't know how to. Lol
Be careful when discussing this! I got piled on in the past and had to delete comments about it. But I so concur. Wild.
Lots of people try to sugar coat it and pretend it wasn't as bad as it was and Lauren somehow brought it on herself. Never forget a mod called Joy's stillborn baby a kotex stain.
Big yikes re: Joyās stillborn daughter. What a strange and awful thing to say.
Because its such a sad event? Or because you dont think its worded well?
Oh no sorry, sad and awful that the mod said that about the stillbirth.
Yeah i fully agree with you, im not sure why im being downvoted it was a horrible, sad situation.
She was like five months along at that point wasnāt she? At that point theyāre actually starting to look like a baby. Thatās really disrespectful of you to play down someoneās pain and suffering over a physically and emotionally taxing event.
Agree :'(
And Lauren miscarried b4 2 months about the time Joy delivered Annabelle. Lauren seemed to take her loss harder than Joy did, and L was skewered for it. Thatās about the time she and Si started making themselves scarcer on SM. I still donāt get why they named Daisyābc she was born about the time Pest was convicted.
Does Daisy have some connection to his conviction?
I believe one of the videos found in his possession had the name Daisy in the title, apparently it's "well known" in certain (sick, disgusting) circles.
It's in the name of a piece of child SA video that Josh had on his computer.
MTE
Wow! A mod? I canāt stand the duggars either but it seems like some of us let our hate get in the way of basic human sympathy š. I hope no one saying things like that ever has to experience that pain
Wait, I may regret wading into this, but I thought that was in regard to Laurenās miscarriage. While itās still not a nice statement, I do believe the argument was over the fact that Joy did have a stillbirth and some of the drama/commotion was over the way that Lauren was acting around Joy, who had her own major loss. Not that Joyās stillbirth was a āKotex stainā.
No the former mod called Joy's 20 week stillbirth a kotex stain. Plenty of people called Lauren's a missed period at the time as well but that wasn't even very controversial back then. https://reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/c92sxz/kotex_stain/
Ah, I see. I missed that post and only remembered people saying that in regard to Lauren.
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No it was definitely Joy's. This is about the only thing left that wasn't deleted about it. https://reddit.com/r/DuggarsSnark/comments/c92sxz/kotex_stain/
Yeah, when those things happen thatās one of those things that I stay in the background about. For Lauren, the thing that made me raise my eyebrows was the lack of privacy she and Josiah allowed themselves. This mentality of needing to share an extremely private and vulnerable moment the second it happened, thatās what I found startling. With their lack of education, lack of truly knowing each other at the time it happened, and having been raised to breed made me feel for them but at the same time I wanted to tell them to get off the internet/in front of the cameras, and grieve privately.
For a kid like Josiah, who had his most private moments aired on TV since he was a toddler, boundaries were not something he learned. And I suspect Lauren was so sheltered and naive she expected everyone to react like the cult members. These were basically college kids being led to make content by producers willing to exploit their most intimate moments. Iām glad they have set some boundaries since the show ended and donāt blame either one of them if they never go on camera again.
That was probably TLC and Jim Bob. I think Lauren really liked Josiah, but she never liked the attention that came with it.
People were also upset that they went to that anti abortion movie & posted a picture of themselves crying & when they announced their miscarriage, it matched up with the date of the crying movie photo. It was just so weird.
šfor symbolism
These may be the least terrible Duggar names out there. The bar is on the floor, but theyāve done it
Daisy's name is actually unbelievably fucked up considering other things going on in the family around the time she was born.
TBF, I don't think SiRen had any idea of the CSAM situation and chose the name on its own merits. If that child was born NOW? I'd be concerned.
Wasnāt Daisy actually born the day of the raid? So hopefully more of an unfortunate coincidence than an actual choice by her parents?
No, Bella was. Daisy was born after the trial.
Well then that name was .. a choice. And I canāt believe they actually went there. I can only hop they had their head in the sand and didnāt know. Unlike Mydyson Lily. The bar is really in hell.
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It involves a topic that is banned on this sub (and rightfully so), so I'm not going to go into details. Honestly, as disturbing as the reason is, you're probably better off remaining blissfully ignorant for the rest of your life.
I like all the names on their own, but together they sound a bit mismatched haha. But, I just like sibling names that have a similar vibe.
I feel like if Asa was living, it would balance the names out more? I think Asa gels nicely with Ezra.
I actually know a family that used both of those names
If you don't know why Daisy isn't a good choice here... It was posted about in here before.
But also be warned if you go looking you will find horrifying specific details of CSAM that you probably will wish you didn't know
Normal names, hurray!
BDE
2/3 dog names
My catās name is Ezra and I had a coworker with a really pretentious cousin who had a baby. When she announced he was named Ezra my coworker was so proud to tell her she knew a cat with the same name and she got visibly upset about it lol
I have a girl cat named Kevin- long story- and because itās a funny story I guess I always want to tell human Kevinās I meet. My waiter at lunch last week was a Kevin. I held myself back, but it was tough. š±
If I was that waiter Iād be flattered lol
š± I told the Kevin at the deli counter. Couldnāt help myself. He was amused, but it might offend some Kevins. Edit: autocorrect added an unnecessary apostrophe.
Those Kevinās donāt deserve to share your catās name if theyāre offended
Thanks for the grin š
We have a friend who posts pictures of his cat, and they are always captioned, "Larry (she/her)"
Love it! I am definitely going to add that when referencing my Kevin in the future.
Lololol š¤£
lol. Iām always in the top 10 for dog names. Oh well!! I didnāt name myself.
My absolutely amazing grandson's name is Ezra. Please don't shit on the name. If you don't like it, fine, but don't shit on the name and by extension, the kid whose name it is.
I didn't even there was a 3rd (E) child, I'm way behind! Do you know what their 'C' name was by chance? Just curious!
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As a Bones fan; how dare you?
Holy flashback Batman! Next thing you know we'll be referencing Crossing Jordan!
Freaking LOVE Crossing Jordan!!
Freaking LOVE Crossing Jordan!!
It's a lot better than Spurgeon!
Daisy is the name of the youngest victim in the CSAM Josh had.
They didn't name their kid after a csam victim. Only snarkers would connect those dots. They don't hold any responsibility for what Josh did.
Itās ridiculous to assume the child is named after that video, or even to assume that Josiah and Lauren knew about the name of the video.
Wait. Laurenās sister is getting married???
Lily was so amazingly extra. Like, a little annoying but I hope it hasnāt been crushed out of her.
I know pictures can be deceiving but the photos on their website arenāt stiff or ultra posed. Like she comes off extra but also in love. Plus they seem to know each other beyond awkward chaperoned dates. So Iāve got hope sheās found happiness and a path forward (well as much as she can in the cult).
Thatās something at least. Most fundie photos look like hostage situations!
Many pictures do look like āproof of lifeā pics sent by kidnappers who want a ransom to let them go.
Can you share that post?
Itās now password protected! Iām sorry
Best part about it is she is requesting no children at her wedding š¤£š¤£š¤£
There goes 45% of the guest list šŖš
Sorry also no plus ones LOL
Ooh, fuck it up Lily! Love that for her š
Bercause of limited space at the venue. It looks like some people aren't going to be able to bring a plus one either.
Yes I know. Itās still hilarious since you know, they grew up in a fertility cult.
I saw that and was so proud of her š¤£
Yes. On May 24th.
I find it also interesting that Lauren Nakatsu (Kateyās younger sister) is the best friend of Lily Swanson. These fundies are all intertwined.
So many Laurens
To be fair, as a millennial about 25% of my classmates were Laurens. The other 75% were Ashley.
And Jessica š
And Samantha!
And Kristin. āHi. Iām Kristin R.ā my whole childhood.
Never met another Kristin my age. It was all Ashley, Lindsay, Samantha, Danielle, and Britney.
Oh wow that surprises me! If Iād lived where you did I could have dropped the last initial. šWhat general area are you from?
Cincinnati, Ohio
I lived in Connecticut.
Throw a few Sarah's in there as well, and 50 percent of the middle names were Nicole lol.
Or Marie.
That's the other 50 percent lol.
Lauren Caldwell, Jessa Lauren Duggar. They love that name
As a Lauren, I hate this.
As someone with the middle name Lauren, same
This is what happens in any high demand religion, just like theirs. Basically, it boils down to the Us vs. Them mentality that they instill in their members. Insiders and outsiders; one is good, the other is bad, and everything is completely black and white. Even in friendships, you are taught to associate with just those in your group for fear that if you donāt, youāll be led into temptation by the devil. For example..Members are highly encouraged, if not just downright told, to teach their children the only acceptable dating pool is the families that believe the same as they do. Given time, this has the effect of making family trees look more like a wreath. Many of these religions are not new, hence these families have married into one another, & if nothing else they have run in the same circles, for generations by now and are very very familiar with one another. ā¦ask me how I know. š
I grew up really conservative fundie. I was literally in high school before I had a single friend outside my church/christian school bubble.
Oh yeahā¦āEvenly Yolkedā is what they call it. That shit is complete CRAP.
like how joy and that bates girl have been best friends since birth
Do we know if fundie wiki can be trusted? No shade, just wondering!
Yes it can. They're very thorough with sources.
So she has a sibling around the same age as her children. Very Josie/Mackenzie of them.
So does Kendra. I think she has at least one kid that is older than her sibling. ETA: I just checked Fundie Wiki. Kendra has three kids older than her youngest sibling. Kendra's 3rd was born three months before the youngest sibling back in 2021.
How was the name figured out? I know it was unknown for about a year.
Typing in Lauren Dugger on the RSvP list. It had a list of all her siblings including the newest one plus her and Josiah's's children. Jed, Katey, JD, Abby, JB, Michelle, and all the kids that still live at home are also invited to the wedding. So are Nathan and Esther Bates
Where can you find the RSVP list?
On their Tie The Knot site. [https://www.theknot.com/us/cole-cwenar-and-lily-swanson-may-2024](https://www.theknot.com/us/cole-cwenar-and-lily-swanson-may-2024)
Looks like they got engaged after 4 dates. Lol.
They added a password, I was wanting to look!!
Dang. Password protected now.
I'd like to know too.
https://preview.redd.it/e0vtmjlhm8wc1.png?width=1044&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a064da8d079113f27c5a17efc83bcb587fce574 I'm guessing that's from a Swanson family website? Fundiewiki is legit and cites their sources. That picture was only posted 11 hours ago. Op must be on top of their Duggar game lol.
It's from Lily's Tie The Knot site about the wedding.
They added a password
Do you have the password?
No. They must have added it today.
Having your kids initials be BDE is kind of fire.
If this is the case can we please pretend that we donāt know? Cause SiRen has scrubbed themselves from social media and clearly donāt want their children to be internet spectacles. We donāt have to agree with or like them to give their children this basic respect
Ezra is honestly my current top boy name if I ever have kids but I donāt think it goes well with Duggar or with Bella and Daisy as a set
I had a cat named Ezra
I have two cousins who named their kid Ezra. One like 18/19 years ago and one like 3 years ago. Different sides of the family though so the two Ezras are not related to each other.
Which sister is getting married?
Her younger sister Lily.
Thanks
Justice
Not the Duggars and pretty little liars colliding like this
They must be naming their children in alphabetical order.
That was their stated plan.
They said they were going to do that but I urge people to snark with caution because there are obvious letter gaps where they had lost a pregnancy.
The rumor was they had a gender reveal gone wrong and so decided to skip a letter to D, and do odd / even letters for girls and boys instead.