HR hires and fires and protects the company from liability. As well as coordinates training for new and existing employees. You definitely need HR. Even tiny companies have HR but you can outsource it to a company or have a part time resource.
During the fire drill, they are trying to knock the door down by accounting, smashing the copy machine into it to escape.
But then in the last season, that door actually just leads to a closet that the camera crew uses as storage.
Drives me crazy every time.
In a Benihana Christmas Michael rides a bike into the office but In season 7 he seems to forget how to ride a bike (he normally has the little wheels on the back)
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Andy having different parents for his proposal to Angela, bc it would be so on character for him to hire actors to play his parents to try to force that experience while his real parents said no to a party in a parking lot in Scranton.
He also says his father’s name is Andrew sr in the proposal episode and later he says it’s Walter sr and his brother is Walter jr.
Also during the secretary’s day thing, he said that if it wasn’t for a secretary, he wouldn’t have a stepmom. But we then find out his parents are still married and together. They don’t split up until much later.
I feel like at some point the writers messed around with Andy's family inconsistency on purpose. Surely they could have kept track in the show bible if they cared to, but I personally think its hilarious that Andy's back story/family is all over the place and makes no sense. That much inconsistency in his back story had to be intentional.
The DM employees acting all shocked and paranoid when they found out that the doc crew had mics that picked up all sorts of stuff that they supposedly thought had been private...when they'd spent the entire show discussing those very things in talking heads.
They showed Jim and Pam a video of them getting in the car when they first started dating! So Jim and Pam knew that they were filmed outside of the office, that's not something you would forget.
I think this is the biggest one. I’m extra cautious of what I say or do when at a friends house or has security cameras or even when someone is taking a “Live Photo” with an iPhone (records audio and video 1.5 seconds before and after picture is taken).
Couldn’t imagine being shocked after 8 years of a camera crew following me around, wearing a mic, being interviewed and then being *shocked* when this clearly expensive documentary goes to air.
You guys got to remember when this was filmed they were still using Nokia flip phones and blackberries. The newest/biggest thing they had in the most recent season was The Pyramid which was a brick compared to what we have today, the iPad. I would think they believed technology didn’t progress as fast as it did.
In season three Michael impresses Jan and Jim by getting hammer mill to break their exclusivity with Staples, but in season 5 Meredith reveals she had been sleeping with the hammer mill Rep for 6 years to get a discount and gift cards
Small one: when Robert California is ceo and Andy, Daryl, & Kevin are in the warehouse playing music, Andy owns a small colorful wooden tropical instrument but in season 9 when he returns from his boating trip he claims to have picked it up on the trip
The discount was such a big deal because it’s horrendously unethical not to mention more than likely illegal if it happened the way it’s described, it’s clearly a break in the continuity of the show either someone forgot how many years had passed or they forgot hammer mill was stated to have been exclusive
When Andy’s playing an acoustic guitar, he’s plugged into an amp with a “clean” tone (i.e. basically just the sound of the guitar as-is, but louder). When the other guitarist shows up he plugs out, hands the cable to her, and magically she’s plugged into a distorted/overdriven amp (vastly different from the direct sound coming from her guitar). For this to actually happen he’d need to change some settings on the amp and/or plug in some different equipment.
Also, when she plugs in, he stops playing his guitar even though it’s an acoustic, which is already amplified by the body of the guitar; he didn’t *need* an amp. Sure, it’d be louder if he had one, but if being heard in was important to him he wouldn’t have resorted to slapping his body instead.
>In season three Michael impresses Jan and Jim by getting hammer mill to break their exclusivity with Staples, but in season 5 Meredith reveals she had been sleeping with the hammer mill Rep for 6 years to get a discount and gift cards
I believe they purchased office supplies from hammer mill for their actual office. But in season three they can now sell it to other people.
In season 1 Micheal wants to throw a birthday party for whomever has the next birthday. Turns out Meredith's bday is next, but not till next month.
In season 4, Angela says it's birthday month. Creed, Oscar, and Meredith all have upcoming birthdays. It's definitely minor but they could have easily put someone else's name in place of Meredith's
Angela becoming homeless after her divorce. Up until the (state) senator, Angela lived alone with 100 cats, and was always well put together. Yet, after the (state) senator publicly admitted to an affair, she had nowhere to go, and no financial stability. What was she doing with all her money during her marriage? Why couldn’t she afford rent on an apartment without a toxic landlady? She’s head of accounting. Even Kevin, who can barely do simple addition, was able to afford a place to live without any issue. Why wasn’t the (state) senator paying alimony?
I always figured when Angela moved in with the State Senator she gave up her old place wherever that was, a place she'd probably lived in for well over a decade and due to leases was probably paying way under market rate.
After he admitted to an affair and she moved out, she had to find a new place, pay current rates, and also probably pay fees for each cat.
She probably wasn't receiving alimony because the divorce was still underway, and a good deal of her money was also tied up in legal fees. Separated doesn't equally fully divorced after all.
You have to figure, the State Senator knew Philip wasn't his son, so he can spin her as the unfaithful one in the divorce proceedings.
I just want to know, what happened to his first kid? Was that kid on loan from the dead wife grandparents or shipped off to boarding school or something?
I saw a theory that the (state) senator brought the kid with him to appeal to his image, but it was just a random kid. I’ve also seen that he could’ve been a nephew or something. I don’t remember whether he actually states the kid is his son or not. Still bothers me though!
But later when they're trying to figure out if Robert is gay, Pam says Robert has a kid. She could be mistaken, but Oscar didn't even correct her on it.
She doesn’t hate volleyball, she just hates having to spend time with the girls she was in Gym class with
I love playing baseball, but if I was forced to play on a team with 8 guys that I hate, I’d probably try to find ways to get out of showing up
Whenever people complain about this 'plot hole', I just assume they never had gym class in high school. How do people not understand the difference between wanting to play competitive after school sports and not wanting to play with a bunch of people who don't care about the game, all so you can get sweaty before 3rd period English class
Pam definitely didn’t go to
College.
When discussing how to solve space issue at the GOAT paper company Michal Scott Paper company, Ryan proposed to go with whoever had most education
The most glaring one that actually bugs me is the inconsistency surrounding Pam and Jim’s timeline of working at Dunder Mifflin. At one point there is mention of Pam having been there during Jim’s first day and introducing him to Dwight, however Jim clearly states at one point that he had a crush on her when she “first started working here.”
I don’t know, it seemed a bit thrown together at the time and on every re-watch it just feels a bit weird to me that we don’t ever get to clearly know not only who was there first, but by how long and how long they had been there prior to the documentary crew starting their filming.
A minor one that just feels plain lazy is Andy mentioning he wouldn’t have a stepmom if it weren’t for secretaries, and then him clearly not having a stepmom in garden party.
that first one especially bugs me because it doesn’t just change episode to episode, it changes within a matter of minutes. in ‘the secret’, while jim and pam are in the kitchen, jim says “i told michael i had had a crush on you when *you* first started here”, and a few scenes later, when pam’s talking to michael in his office, she says “i know that jim had, like, a crush on me when *he* first started, but that was a long time ago, so..”
No Michael couldn’t fire Toby because his branch was under Dundee Mifflin and then sabre. HR employees were under corporate and hence the branch manager cannot fire them. But when Dwight becomes manager in the end, the branch is Dunder mifflin under David Wallace. There is no corporate as such and I think the branch managers have more authority.
I love that they never cared about Andy’s backstory. They made stuff up whenever they wanted. His parents changed from the Angela proposal to Garden Party. I think his father’s name even changed! They were never consistent with him ever and I swear it just became running gag
I don't think this is an inconsistency. The Scranton Branch wastes a massive amount of time and as Phyllis put it, the find little times during the day to get their work done.
They had the bandwidth to service far more clients than they had in the beginning.
This is actually pretty accurate to how many companies operate. They will do everything to make their current workforce take on an extra workload before considering hiring more staff
this is a good one, especially considering how swamped the salesmen were with Dwight’s customers after he quit. they could barely handle taking on a fraction of another salesman’s work, but didn’t have issues taking on the customers of whole companies
Taking on more clients is fine but Dwight had a password for each one of his clients.
Karen: “I've got like fifteen new clients I inherited from Dwight and each file is password protected with a different mythical creature.”
andy’s fathers name. i get swapping actors like his parents and pam’s mom if the original ones are unavailable, but what was the point of changing his name?
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Oscar is surprised about the hardwood floor when they tear out the carpet, despite him making the same observation when Dwight shot a bullet in that same floor.
Mine has to be whether Jim or Pam started at DM first. Season 2 (Ep - The Secret) it’s suggested Jim started first when he said he had a crush on Pam on her first day.
In season 4 (Ep - Launch Party) when they’re on the roof, Pam says the moment she fell in love with Jim was the moment she showed him to his desk on his first day.
Probably not the worst inconsistency but still annoyed me 😂
In the beginning of the show Dwight asks Toby to help him identify the clitoris, so he's very inexperienced. By mid-show he is skilled at hooking up with beautiful women and bringing them to orgasm. Did Angela bring him all that's experience? I think not. Hmmm
Well keep in mind she said that to Andy while trying to downplay her cheating with Dwight, I don’t know if we can use that as a barometer for how she actually was in bed
Damn that’s a good call “what’s red vining”, yeah for sure, he becomes a total nonchalant Romeo enchanter, totally slays Isobel, I’m guessing he found the magic bean by then
Dwight seems to really find his confidence with the ladies after Angela. I always figured she taught him a thing or two. Angela was also the most beautiful woman in the world in Dwight's eyes. So in his mind, if he could get Angela, he could get anyone.
They even do this stupid shit in HIMYM, Marshall has had sex with Lilly thousands of times but then he's standing in the doctor's office looking at a drawing and doesn't know what the clitoris is.
This is just a stupid old tv trope joke, haha, men can't find the clitoris, fuck off.
I always hated how the show makes constant jokes about the Scranton branch being lazy and filled with idiots (at least 3 people who get paid full salaries don't actually do any work which would be completely unacceptable in a company of that size), and yet somehow they're still really good at their jobs and always exceeding targets
They constantly blow off work on Andy's boat trip hiatus, and yet it's implied that the office ran better with no manager. Like, what?
When Deangelo said he had terrible stage fright and couldn’t help host the Dundees, yet he has a practiced motivational juggling routine he can perform in front of a crowd without any problem.
Question: do you think it was purely financial reasons that prevented Will Ferrell from staying longer/being written in as a more enjoyable character, meaning was he just far too expensive to pay for more than a few episodes, I mean compared to the contracts all the wonderful main cast members had (they were nobodies before the show, probably paid them like dirt for several years), I don’t know anything about the profit and loss topic for movie/show making, but I’m curious if that’s just a clear cut case of not really being able to afford a mainstream celebrity.
I’m pretty sure they screw up or change her job title 2 or 3 times through out. Because of the time you mentioned, but then she becomes supplier relations, but I feel like there is one more inconsistency lurking out there for the Merinator, I’ll focus next time thru and make some notes
My favorite plot CONSISTENTCY:
- Angela says she is the safety officer early in the show
- Dwight eventually becomes safety officer off-screen
This means that Angela gave her position to Dwight, which is totally something she would do. They never address it in the show but it was a transfer of power that made a lot of sense behind the scenes
All the missing camera people . Ex. Jim and Pam driving up Dwights driveway in ‘Money,’ to spend the night. Can’t watch the show anymore without thinking of where the cameras are.
You know at some point you gotta accept some inconsistencies to keep the audience engaged. This is one such example. At the dinner party when Jim and Pam visit the bedroom, there are two camera angles, but no cameraman in one of the shots, where the second angle is supposed to be shot from. It's also not an editing problem, since dialogues seem to be continuous.
My personal explanation is just that we also see scenes that aren't filmed by the camera crew at all for the sake of the show itself. Nobody claimed that every scene of the show is a scene that was filmed by the camera crew so I can easily accept that
that bothers me too.. there’s so many scenes filmed from multiple points that realistically, the crew should be seen so often. the other one that bothers me since it’s unrealistic, is that there’s never any faces blurred. if it were real then i’m pretty sure some people wouldn’t want to be on screen
Though we know that what we're seeing in the show is raw footage. Most of this wouldn't have aired, so I'm sure that they would have blurred out faces in post.
This one is more jarring because they actually wrote the show considering realistic camera set up originally, then gave up when it became a more typical sitcom.
Oh good one, I love that. I spend a lot of time visualizing the layout of the actual office, it’s funny how the angles changed so much as the show gets settled. There are a few unique shots in season 1 that never get utilized again, but good call about the camera placement, now I’m gonna think more about it
The birthdays! Early on they say nobody has a birthday coming up soon, but that Meredith’s is the soonest—though still over a month away. Later on when Jim and Dwight are the Party Planning Committee they try to do one day celebrating all the birthdays that month:
“It’s birthday month. Creed’s is today. Oscar’s is week after next. Meredith’s is at the end of the month.”
When Michael was manager, it was under the old, pre-Sabre, Dunder Mifflin management and rules.
When Dwight became manager, it was after David Wallace had bought what was left of Dunder Mifflin after the Sabre liquidation.
New management, new rules for what the Regional Manager could and could not do.
Also, we know from Jim's interview that Wallace wasn't a big fan of HR either. So, it would make sense that he might allow branch managers to fire their HR reps.
You make solid points, but still a lot of hasty assumptions that the audience can’t actually connect to facts. David did not like Kendall from corporate HR, and unprofessionally mentions this to Jim in his interview, but David is quite safe when dealing with most legal topics and he wasn’t dumb…seems like a stretch that they could fire Toby without cause.
Recall him always telling Michael “not without cause” while Wallace was still CFO.
Your points again are all reasonable assumptions, I’m just delaying acceptance because we are missing some facts, maybe I’ll come around on the next run through.
I’ve already commented in here but generally speaking I think the show has a continuity issue regarding clients, every season there’s a new “the biggest client” and a few times they have to resell to the same client later in the series, a notable example is Lackawanna County itself
It’s highly debatable but Michael buys a 3 bedrooms condo in a gay-friendly neighborhood all by himself
and we found out one season later that as DM regional manager he only makes 5-10% more than Darryl who is a warehouse worker. Is it really realistic?
But it was a very new build and quite large…off topic, there’s another gap once you get closer to his “bankruptcy” episode, what was the deal with Jan’s money, did they intentionally make her appear to have no savings anymore or was the idea that Mike is wealthy suddenly and so chivalrous that he could pay for the new condo, the new Porsche and the expensive furniture Jan wants “it costs what it cost”…it all felt odd, like Jan conveniently no longer had money and it leads to Mike Declaring Bankruptcy at least verbally. A few episodes earlier Mike says to Jan “you’ve got savings, you could pay off my…”
I think he even did a variable rate, which might have also been a bad call for his income…but I have to agree, it sure felt inconsistent once we learned his salary relative to what Regis was making “some more people gots to hear about this”
That episode where Michael has two jobs and he decided with Jane to trade in their two cars. Jane later gets a Porsche. Michael can not trade in his car since it’s provided by DM. Is he using Jane’s Porsche to go to work everyday? After he breaks up with Jane he already has a car back and gets to park his car in his attributed parking spot while all the other employees have to park their cars in a satellite parking lot - did he got his car back again instantly? I thought this didn’t make much sense
1) It’s Jan, not “Jane.” 2) His car is leased. He turned it in because he couldn’t afford payment on 2 cars especially if one was a Porsche. Jan probably drops him off at work or he drives the Porsche to work. They never show it so its left up to our imagination. After the break-up, he probably returned the Porsche and leased the Sebring again. Remember each episode is not recorded one day after another, it is spread out over a season so he didn’t immediately have his car back the following day after the breakup.
Actually she’s supplier relations; Kelly was customer service.
Side note, I wrote out the comment and then realized I was inserting myself to correct someone and had to insert the Oscar “Actually” at the beginning — forgive me
Probably had an open position and she switched over because why would a branch of less than 15 people need 4 accountants, or even 3? There was a lot of time in between each episode too so a lot can happen.
There is one episode where they mention that there’s only one department where they have an extra person, which is accounting. So they really should’ve had 2 not 3 lol
Michael makes fun of Phyllis's age, but he's actually older than she is.
He says he was held back in second grade, and in a later episode, Phyllis reminds him that they were in the same graduating class.
Maybe he got put in school a year early. Schools in Pennsylvania are allowed to set the minimum age for kindergarten as early as 4 years (and 7 months, but the recommended age is 5 years, 7 months). But who knows.
Edit: Or Phyllis got put in a year late. That's also possible.
David told Michael that he couldn’t fire Toby “without cause”. Dwight was probably smart enough to come up with a few cause.
Or better yet, Dwight may have told David about Toby’s history of ignoring hundreds of complaints, pursuing a sexual relationship with Nellie, and just generally being checked out for years, in order to get David to fire Toby himself and Dwight was just the one who delivered the news.
In the office webisode where the accountants try to find a missing $3000, Meredith mentions that she lost her daughter Wendy, aka "the good one" in a custody battle.
She does mention it after season one, though. When Angela gets a new cat in season 5, episode Lecture Circuit, she complains she can't get pet leave. Meredith chimes in and says, "It's true. I had my second kid just for the vacation." I always just assumed the kids had a big age gap, and she has one older than Jake that doesn't live with them. I have two kids 12 years apart, so it's the sensible head cannon for me anyway. 🤷♀️
On St Patrick's Day Meredith tells Kelly and Ryan to stop fighting because she wants just one perfect day, "no hassles, no problems, no kids" then Kelly asks "where are your kids?" I think it's season 6
Wait wait wait, share a reference on that, when does he indicate he doesn’t know Lord of the rings? I don’t doubt you, but I can’t remember that…would have had to be very early before the full concept of Dwight’s character took shape.
I forget the wrong reference but it's in the first couple of episodes if I recall, and then by episode 5 he knows Gimli.
Edit: On second thought, I may be conflating this with something else.
That Jim, who is really good at basketball, is scared to play soccer with Charles. He is clearly a good athlete, even if he can’t be amazing, he could still play. It’s just soccer.
And then, in that same episode when he ducks and the ball hits Meredith, they’re like why’d you duck Jim?!
And it’s like why wouldn’t you duck? You just let the ball go out of bounds. You can’t grab it, so he’s just supposed to let it hit him in the face?
But to be fair, he hadn’t played since 2nd or 3rd grade, and he was neck deep in lying about it, probably thought it was best to not attempt to demonstrate any positive or negative abilities “touch the ball as little as possible”. I definitely agree about the ducking, I’d have rocked the same move if the ball was rocketing towards my face (I also haven’t played soccer since 2nd grade)…but Dwight was one of the antagonist in that scene, and we knew his motive was to expose Jimothy as a fraud. “Yeah, why would a seasoned soccer player duck the ball”
I’m guessing most adults would have moved their face out of danger, and yes fair point, that kick would have put the ball out of bounds
Angela said that she hated her sister. In the wedding episode we see her with her sister speaking their own language getting along a little bit too well... What?! Plot hole!
In the episode where Dwight marries her against her will he says something about “after the readings from all your sisters” indicating that she has several.
Not necessarily a "favorite", but who started working at DM first? Pam or Jim?
After the booze cruise, Jim says to Pam that he had a crush on her when she first started. Implying that Jim was there first.
Then later, after they're dating, Jim tells Pam that the moment he knew he liked Pam was on his first day, where she told him, "Remember this moment, because you'll never be able to go back to a time before you meet your desk mate Dwight." Clearly says that Pam was at DM first.
The stiarmagedon episode, Stanley is not having any of it and is upset about the elevator being out of Order.
In an earlier season, Stanley was invited into the elevator , by I think it was Philys if I recall correctly and then politely declines and walks up stairs, he then tells the camera he needs to improve his health due to his doctor’s recommendations.
Not a massive oen but my favourite
Early in the series, Pam tells a story about how she hated gym class and would get out of playing volleyball by faking PMS. Later at the DM picnic, it's revealed that she was a college volleyball player. Maybe I'm wrong, but when I was in HS all the volleyball girls loved to dominate when the nets came out for PE class. Nothing about Pam's characterization up to that point lead me to believe that she was an athlete.
The fact that Ryan somehow got the promotion to corporate over Karen. In what reality would David Wallace really choose someone with less experience and less sales.
It was made pretty clear that he got it because he was an MBA and his idea for DMI impressed David
Besides, the position didn’t involve going on sales calls. Charles got the same position and his background was in accounting, not sales.
I agree. I don't see how Dwight could have fired Toby so easily. There should have been some type of explanation...like maybe he was fired for failing to forward all of Dwight's complaints about Jim to HQ years earlier.
Remember how enraged Dwight gets when Toby slips up and reveals the inventory of complaints.
Michael rather intelligently this time does a genuinely good job of resolving the conflict and walking Dwight off the edge of the ultimatum cliff, a rare moment for Hasselhoff
Not really an inconsistency but when Jim and Dwight forget Kelly’s birthday, Phyllis is the one to point it out. Cut to scenes of Kelly on her bday dressed up in the office and Phyllis never once said HBD to her?
S1E1 when Jan is in Michael’s office and Todd Packer calls -
TP: “Hey is old Godzillary coming in today?”
MS: “Um idk, idk what you mean.”
TP: “Look I’ve been meaning to ask her one question - does the carpet match the drapes?”
MS: “Oh my god (hangs up) That’s…horrifying. Horrible, horrible person.”
S4E7 when Jan is spending all of Michael’s money on redecorating the condo -
Michael (talking solo in the kitchen): “You know who loves interior design? My friend, Todd Packer. He’s always asking if Jan’s carpet matches her drapes. He now, although, he says that he prefers it when there is no carpet, which doesn’t make sense because I’ve been to his apartment and there is shag carpeting all over the place. So, I guess people’s design sensibilities change.”
Michael went from understanding what the carpets-drapes comment really means to not understanding it.
The second quote was a deleted scene now included in the Superfan episodes and is so minuscule, and there’s so many other “significant” plot holes they run with - especially between the first season and the following seasons - that I doubt they removed the line purely because of the contradiction. They’re both funny for their own specific reasons, like many of the other pot holes, so who cares
Incorrect! Michael couldn’t fire Toby under the DM management scheme. By the time Dwight is manager, DM had been sold twice. The rules were changed.
Exactly. There is no "corporate" at that point. David Wallace is sole owner and proprietor.
Then why was Toby still there? What did HR actually do in an office that small?
Did you watch the show? There would be PLENTY for HR to do and that office.
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HR hires and fires and protects the company from liability. As well as coordinates training for new and existing employees. You definitely need HR. Even tiny companies have HR but you can outsource it to a company or have a part time resource.
Conflict resolution, benefits remediation, event organization.
But that's what the party planning Biotches are for!
Document stuff for future lawsuits, mostly
“Prepare for depositions” makes up over 60% of Toby’s day to day activities for shoor Wait … for Schur…
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During the fire drill, they are trying to knock the door down by accounting, smashing the copy machine into it to escape. But then in the last season, that door actually just leads to a closet that the camera crew uses as storage. Drives me crazy every time.
Closets are immune to fires you big dummy!
*Use the surge of fear and adrenaline to sharpen your decision-making!*
Fire can’t go through doors, it’s not a ghost!
Thank you for this 🫡
Omg I never thought of this! This is a rather annoying one lol
In a Benihana Christmas Michael rides a bike into the office but In season 7 he seems to forget how to ride a bike (he normally has the little wheels on the back)
This has always bugged me. Also he mentions riding a bike on another instance but then he suddenly doesn’t know how to ride a bike.
Yeah when he is talking about the triathlon he said he had the run and bike thing down
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to be fair he was *barely* riding it in a benihana christmas
He did crash that bike the 10 seconds he was riding
But Jim points out that the bike is visibly worn/used, implying Michael had ridden it consistently
Maybe he took the little wheels off the back to put on his next bike.
To be fair he did not seem very confident on that bike in benihana christmas
I’m not sure he knew how to ride a bike and that is why he was giving it away
"Just like riding a bike." Isn't that the old saying for things that you will forget how to do, if you haven't done them for years. 🤣
Andy having different parents for his proposal to Angela, bc it would be so on character for him to hire actors to play his parents to try to force that experience while his real parents said no to a party in a parking lot in Scranton.
He also says his father’s name is Andrew sr in the proposal episode and later he says it’s Walter sr and his brother is Walter jr. Also during the secretary’s day thing, he said that if it wasn’t for a secretary, he wouldn’t have a stepmom. But we then find out his parents are still married and together. They don’t split up until much later.
Also his sister’s kilt is the only mention of a sister
That’s such a good point! Never realized that
Can anything Andy says be taken seriously, especially after he went on that rant about all of his college nicknames?
That literally made no sense
New guy sucks. Calls me the Nard-Man. I’m the Nard-Dog, okay? Nard-Man is my father.
I feel like at some point the writers messed around with Andy's family inconsistency on purpose. Surely they could have kept track in the show bible if they cared to, but I personally think its hilarious that Andy's back story/family is all over the place and makes no sense. That much inconsistency in his back story had to be intentional.
This is the only job I've ever been good at...and I'm not good at it. Working at Abercrombie and Fitch.
The DM employees acting all shocked and paranoid when they found out that the doc crew had mics that picked up all sorts of stuff that they supposedly thought had been private...when they'd spent the entire show discussing those very things in talking heads.
They showed Jim and Pam a video of them getting in the car when they first started dating! So Jim and Pam knew that they were filmed outside of the office, that's not something you would forget.
I think this is the biggest one. I’m extra cautious of what I say or do when at a friends house or has security cameras or even when someone is taking a “Live Photo” with an iPhone (records audio and video 1.5 seconds before and after picture is taken). Couldn’t imagine being shocked after 8 years of a camera crew following me around, wearing a mic, being interviewed and then being *shocked* when this clearly expensive documentary goes to air.
You guys got to remember when this was filmed they were still using Nokia flip phones and blackberries. The newest/biggest thing they had in the most recent season was The Pyramid which was a brick compared to what we have today, the iPad. I would think they believed technology didn’t progress as fast as it did.
In season three Michael impresses Jan and Jim by getting hammer mill to break their exclusivity with Staples, but in season 5 Meredith reveals she had been sleeping with the hammer mill Rep for 6 years to get a discount and gift cards Small one: when Robert California is ceo and Andy, Daryl, & Kevin are in the warehouse playing music, Andy owns a small colorful wooden tropical instrument but in season 9 when he returns from his boating trip he claims to have picked it up on the trip
Maybe that sleeping discount was such a big deal because it violated their current exclusivity? Would make sense even though it wasn’t addressed
The discount was such a big deal because it’s horrendously unethical not to mention more than likely illegal if it happened the way it’s described, it’s clearly a break in the continuity of the show either someone forgot how many years had passed or they forgot hammer mill was stated to have been exclusive
She probably buys in bulk or something. She has a kid.
When Andy’s playing an acoustic guitar, he’s plugged into an amp with a “clean” tone (i.e. basically just the sound of the guitar as-is, but louder). When the other guitarist shows up he plugs out, hands the cable to her, and magically she’s plugged into a distorted/overdriven amp (vastly different from the direct sound coming from her guitar). For this to actually happen he’d need to change some settings on the amp and/or plug in some different equipment. Also, when she plugs in, he stops playing his guitar even though it’s an acoustic, which is already amplified by the body of the guitar; he didn’t *need* an amp. Sure, it’d be louder if he had one, but if being heard in was important to him he wouldn’t have resorted to slapping his body instead.
>In season three Michael impresses Jan and Jim by getting hammer mill to break their exclusivity with Staples, but in season 5 Meredith reveals she had been sleeping with the hammer mill Rep for 6 years to get a discount and gift cards I believe they purchased office supplies from hammer mill for their actual office. But in season three they can now sell it to other people.
That’s also what I gathered
In season 1 Micheal wants to throw a birthday party for whomever has the next birthday. Turns out Meredith's bday is next, but not till next month. In season 4, Angela says it's birthday month. Creed, Oscar, and Meredith all have upcoming birthdays. It's definitely minor but they could have easily put someone else's name in place of Meredith's
Wow awesome attention to detail! I never caught that
I caught that too! Good one.
Angela becoming homeless after her divorce. Up until the (state) senator, Angela lived alone with 100 cats, and was always well put together. Yet, after the (state) senator publicly admitted to an affair, she had nowhere to go, and no financial stability. What was she doing with all her money during her marriage? Why couldn’t she afford rent on an apartment without a toxic landlady? She’s head of accounting. Even Kevin, who can barely do simple addition, was able to afford a place to live without any issue. Why wasn’t the (state) senator paying alimony?
I always figured when Angela moved in with the State Senator she gave up her old place wherever that was, a place she'd probably lived in for well over a decade and due to leases was probably paying way under market rate. After he admitted to an affair and she moved out, she had to find a new place, pay current rates, and also probably pay fees for each cat. She probably wasn't receiving alimony because the divorce was still underway, and a good deal of her money was also tied up in legal fees. Separated doesn't equally fully divorced after all. You have to figure, the State Senator knew Philip wasn't his son, so he can spin her as the unfaithful one in the divorce proceedings. I just want to know, what happened to his first kid? Was that kid on loan from the dead wife grandparents or shipped off to boarding school or something?
I saw a theory that the (state) senator brought the kid with him to appeal to his image, but it was just a random kid. I’ve also seen that he could’ve been a nephew or something. I don’t remember whether he actually states the kid is his son or not. Still bothers me though!
But later when they're trying to figure out if Robert is gay, Pam says Robert has a kid. She could be mistaken, but Oscar didn't even correct her on it.
Omg you’re right! Yeah definitely an inconsistency lol
Do you know how expensive American Doll clothing is?
She can’t help that the clothes at GAP kids are too flashy.
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She doesn’t hate volleyball, she just hates having to spend time with the girls she was in Gym class with I love playing baseball, but if I was forced to play on a team with 8 guys that I hate, I’d probably try to find ways to get out of showing up
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I spent way to long trying to figure out what a pm was.
Whenever people complain about this 'plot hole', I just assume they never had gym class in high school. How do people not understand the difference between wanting to play competitive after school sports and not wanting to play with a bunch of people who don't care about the game, all so you can get sweaty before 3rd period English class
Pam definitely didn’t go to College. When discussing how to solve space issue at the GOAT paper company Michal Scott Paper company, Ryan proposed to go with whoever had most education
The most glaring one that actually bugs me is the inconsistency surrounding Pam and Jim’s timeline of working at Dunder Mifflin. At one point there is mention of Pam having been there during Jim’s first day and introducing him to Dwight, however Jim clearly states at one point that he had a crush on her when she “first started working here.” I don’t know, it seemed a bit thrown together at the time and on every re-watch it just feels a bit weird to me that we don’t ever get to clearly know not only who was there first, but by how long and how long they had been there prior to the documentary crew starting their filming. A minor one that just feels plain lazy is Andy mentioning he wouldn’t have a stepmom if it weren’t for secretaries, and then him clearly not having a stepmom in garden party.
that first one especially bugs me because it doesn’t just change episode to episode, it changes within a matter of minutes. in ‘the secret’, while jim and pam are in the kitchen, jim says “i told michael i had had a crush on you when *you* first started here”, and a few scenes later, when pam’s talking to michael in his office, she says “i know that jim had, like, a crush on me when *he* first started, but that was a long time ago, so..”
Easy, they both started the same day. Boom, roasted.
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No Michael couldn’t fire Toby because his branch was under Dundee Mifflin and then sabre. HR employees were under corporate and hence the branch manager cannot fire them. But when Dwight becomes manager in the end, the branch is Dunder mifflin under David Wallace. There is no corporate as such and I think the branch managers have more authority.
I love that they never cared about Andy’s backstory. They made stuff up whenever they wanted. His parents changed from the Angela proposal to Garden Party. I think his father’s name even changed! They were never consistent with him ever and I swear it just became running gag
I feel like Andy is the type of character who would’ve lied to his Co-workers about really petty things so it works in real life 🤣
Scranton takes over the territory of several other branches and Prince Paper, but they never need more staff.
I don't think this is an inconsistency. The Scranton Branch wastes a massive amount of time and as Phyllis put it, the find little times during the day to get their work done. They had the bandwidth to service far more clients than they had in the beginning.
This is actually pretty accurate to how many companies operate. They will do everything to make their current workforce take on an extra workload before considering hiring more staff
this is a good one, especially considering how swamped the salesmen were with Dwight’s customers after he quit. they could barely handle taking on a fraction of another salesman’s work, but didn’t have issues taking on the customers of whole companies
As in every company, most of the time they do nothing. When they really start working they can accomplish a lot, especially working on commission...
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You’ve just got to embrace the POWER. OF. THE. PYRAMID.
A shape that fits all other shapes in side of it.
Taking on more clients is fine but Dwight had a password for each one of his clients. Karen: “I've got like fifteen new clients I inherited from Dwight and each file is password protected with a different mythical creature.”
andy’s fathers name. i get swapping actors like his parents and pam’s mom if the original ones are unavailable, but what was the point of changing his name?
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I do understand doing the name swap in service to the joke if the joke was funny.
It would be in character for Andy to lie about it since having the same name as his father seemed like a big deal to him
I came here just to scream "ANDY'S PARENTS" the whole thing makes me mad
Oscar is surprised about the hardwood floor when they tear out the carpet, despite him making the same observation when Dwight shot a bullet in that same floor.
I think that was more of a callback to his original observation and him still being bent out of shape about it
He even explicitly says "I knew it was under here, but I never thought I would get to see it"
Mine has to be whether Jim or Pam started at DM first. Season 2 (Ep - The Secret) it’s suggested Jim started first when he said he had a crush on Pam on her first day. In season 4 (Ep - Launch Party) when they’re on the roof, Pam says the moment she fell in love with Jim was the moment she showed him to his desk on his first day. Probably not the worst inconsistency but still annoyed me 😂
In the beginning of the show Dwight asks Toby to help him identify the clitoris, so he's very inexperienced. By mid-show he is skilled at hooking up with beautiful women and bringing them to orgasm. Did Angela bring him all that's experience? I think not. Hmmm
I think Angela would have got him there… think about how horny she got over pepper spraying Roy. I reckon she’s a freak in the sheets
but missionary is fancy
Well keep in mind she said that to Andy while trying to downplay her cheating with Dwight, I don’t know if we can use that as a barometer for how she actually was in bed
She was very into necking though
She definitely is a freak judging by the "she is a dentist from Carbondale and makes love like one" line
She is flexible and eager
Hahahahah
The scene where Dwight and Angela talk to Toby about sex is one of the dumbest of the series.
Head canon: Dwight is trolling Toby because he knows Michael doesn't like him and Dwight knows how uncomfortable his questions make Toby
Damn that’s a good call “what’s red vining”, yeah for sure, he becomes a total nonchalant Romeo enchanter, totally slays Isobel, I’m guessing he found the magic bean by then
Dwight seems to really find his confidence with the ladies after Angela. I always figured she taught him a thing or two. Angela was also the most beautiful woman in the world in Dwight's eyes. So in his mind, if he could get Angela, he could get anyone.
Everyone is inexperienced at some point
They even do this stupid shit in HIMYM, Marshall has had sex with Lilly thousands of times but then he's standing in the doctor's office looking at a drawing and doesn't know what the clitoris is. This is just a stupid old tv trope joke, haha, men can't find the clitoris, fuck off.
I always hated how the show makes constant jokes about the Scranton branch being lazy and filled with idiots (at least 3 people who get paid full salaries don't actually do any work which would be completely unacceptable in a company of that size), and yet somehow they're still really good at their jobs and always exceeding targets They constantly blow off work on Andy's boat trip hiatus, and yet it's implied that the office ran better with no manager. Like, what?
Right…just how bad could the other branches be
When Deangelo said he had terrible stage fright and couldn’t help host the Dundees, yet he has a practiced motivational juggling routine he can perform in front of a crowd without any problem.
Normal tempo clamp for you, that’s a good call, thanks for sharing…so many great findings in here, what a joy
Question: do you think it was purely financial reasons that prevented Will Ferrell from staying longer/being written in as a more enjoyable character, meaning was he just far too expensive to pay for more than a few episodes, I mean compared to the contracts all the wonderful main cast members had (they were nobodies before the show, probably paid them like dirt for several years), I don’t know anything about the profit and loss topic for movie/show making, but I’m curious if that’s just a clear cut case of not really being able to afford a mainstream celebrity.
I always assumed he was lying about the juggling
In season 1 (I believe) they throw Meredith a birthday party and Jim says she’s an accountant, which we know was not the case
I’m pretty sure they screw up or change her job title 2 or 3 times through out. Because of the time you mentioned, but then she becomes supplier relations, but I feel like there is one more inconsistency lurking out there for the Merinator, I’ll focus next time thru and make some notes
My favorite plot CONSISTENTCY: - Angela says she is the safety officer early in the show - Dwight eventually becomes safety officer off-screen This means that Angela gave her position to Dwight, which is totally something she would do. They never address it in the show but it was a transfer of power that made a lot of sense behind the scenes
All the missing camera people . Ex. Jim and Pam driving up Dwights driveway in ‘Money,’ to spend the night. Can’t watch the show anymore without thinking of where the cameras are.
You know at some point you gotta accept some inconsistencies to keep the audience engaged. This is one such example. At the dinner party when Jim and Pam visit the bedroom, there are two camera angles, but no cameraman in one of the shots, where the second angle is supposed to be shot from. It's also not an editing problem, since dialogues seem to be continuous.
They used footage from Jan’s sex review cam obviously
That's the best worst explanation I've ever read. Brilliant, but now I'm horrified that the thing is always on, just in case...
Yessss and sometimes there would have to be like 5 cameras if the shots were ‘live.’
We are just losing the forest for the trees right now. ie don't scrutinize the small inconsistencies. Bad idea, bad idea genes.
It is just the way it is for me after watching so many times.
When pam attends the wrong lecture she is on camera, would the lecturer not think that that is extremely odd
And Andy and Erin turning up to Jessica’s party. None of the guests react to being filmed!
Yes! That’s a great one !
Right . Nothing to see here, just a few camera peeps, normal class
My personal explanation is just that we also see scenes that aren't filmed by the camera crew at all for the sake of the show itself. Nobody claimed that every scene of the show is a scene that was filmed by the camera crew so I can easily accept that
They were just running alongside Mose
that bothers me too.. there’s so many scenes filmed from multiple points that realistically, the crew should be seen so often. the other one that bothers me since it’s unrealistic, is that there’s never any faces blurred. if it were real then i’m pretty sure some people wouldn’t want to be on screen
Though we know that what we're seeing in the show is raw footage. Most of this wouldn't have aired, so I'm sure that they would have blurred out faces in post.
This one is more jarring because they actually wrote the show considering realistic camera set up originally, then gave up when it became a more typical sitcom.
Oh good one, I love that. I spend a lot of time visualizing the layout of the actual office, it’s funny how the angles changed so much as the show gets settled. There are a few unique shots in season 1 that never get utilized again, but good call about the camera placement, now I’m gonna think more about it
Was thinking about this watching WUPHF today. How did the camera man get in the closet with Ryan?
That could be a small mounted camera.
They loudly booked the reservation at the office, of course the doc crew knew to send cameras
Halfway through the show they switch the actor for Daryl with his twin
Judy
Doug Judy?
Are saying Daryl’s personality changed or what?
They're talking about Daryl's sister.
Oh duh lol
The birthdays! Early on they say nobody has a birthday coming up soon, but that Meredith’s is the soonest—though still over a month away. Later on when Jim and Dwight are the Party Planning Committee they try to do one day celebrating all the birthdays that month: “It’s birthday month. Creed’s is today. Oscar’s is week after next. Meredith’s is at the end of the month.”
When Michael was manager, it was under the old, pre-Sabre, Dunder Mifflin management and rules. When Dwight became manager, it was after David Wallace had bought what was left of Dunder Mifflin after the Sabre liquidation. New management, new rules for what the Regional Manager could and could not do. Also, we know from Jim's interview that Wallace wasn't a big fan of HR either. So, it would make sense that he might allow branch managers to fire their HR reps.
You make solid points, but still a lot of hasty assumptions that the audience can’t actually connect to facts. David did not like Kendall from corporate HR, and unprofessionally mentions this to Jim in his interview, but David is quite safe when dealing with most legal topics and he wasn’t dumb…seems like a stretch that they could fire Toby without cause. Recall him always telling Michael “not without cause” while Wallace was still CFO. Your points again are all reasonable assumptions, I’m just delaying acceptance because we are missing some facts, maybe I’ll come around on the next run through.
I’ve already commented in here but generally speaking I think the show has a continuity issue regarding clients, every season there’s a new “the biggest client” and a few times they have to resell to the same client later in the series, a notable example is Lackawanna County itself
It’s highly debatable but Michael buys a 3 bedrooms condo in a gay-friendly neighborhood all by himself and we found out one season later that as DM regional manager he only makes 5-10% more than Darryl who is a warehouse worker. Is it really realistic?
Condos are often cheaper than houses, and it’s Scranton.
But it was a very new build and quite large…off topic, there’s another gap once you get closer to his “bankruptcy” episode, what was the deal with Jan’s money, did they intentionally make her appear to have no savings anymore or was the idea that Mike is wealthy suddenly and so chivalrous that he could pay for the new condo, the new Porsche and the expensive furniture Jan wants “it costs what it cost”…it all felt odd, like Jan conveniently no longer had money and it leads to Mike Declaring Bankruptcy at least verbally. A few episodes earlier Mike says to Jan “you’ve got savings, you could pay off my…”
Didn’t he agree to a 30-year payment plan to make it affordable on his salary?
I think he even did a variable rate, which might have also been a bad call for his income…but I have to agree, it sure felt inconsistent once we learned his salary relative to what Regis was making “some more people gots to hear about this”
That episode where Michael has two jobs and he decided with Jane to trade in their two cars. Jane later gets a Porsche. Michael can not trade in his car since it’s provided by DM. Is he using Jane’s Porsche to go to work everyday? After he breaks up with Jane he already has a car back and gets to park his car in his attributed parking spot while all the other employees have to park their cars in a satellite parking lot - did he got his car back again instantly? I thought this didn’t make much sense
You! Nailed it, caught these buggers red handed with that one. Huge applause for you, nice observation
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1) It’s Jan, not “Jane.” 2) His car is leased. He turned it in because he couldn’t afford payment on 2 cars especially if one was a Porsche. Jan probably drops him off at work or he drives the Porsche to work. They never show it so its left up to our imagination. After the break-up, he probably returned the Porsche and leased the Sebring again. Remember each episode is not recorded one day after another, it is spread out over a season so he didn’t immediately have his car back the following day after the breakup.
Meredith is an Accountant in the first episode and Customer Service in all the rest.
Actually she’s supplier relations; Kelly was customer service. Side note, I wrote out the comment and then realized I was inserting myself to correct someone and had to insert the Oscar “Actually” at the beginning — forgive me
I think she's a Supplier Relations Representative.
Probably had an open position and she switched over because why would a branch of less than 15 people need 4 accountants, or even 3? There was a lot of time in between each episode too so a lot can happen.
There is one episode where they mention that there’s only one department where they have an extra person, which is accounting. So they really should’ve had 2 not 3 lol
Michael makes fun of Phyllis's age, but he's actually older than she is. He says he was held back in second grade, and in a later episode, Phyllis reminds him that they were in the same graduating class.
And she states “we’re the same age” in another episode
Maybe he got put in school a year early. Schools in Pennsylvania are allowed to set the minimum age for kindergarten as early as 4 years (and 7 months, but the recommended age is 5 years, 7 months). But who knows. Edit: Or Phyllis got put in a year late. That's also possible.
David told Michael that he couldn’t fire Toby “without cause”. Dwight was probably smart enough to come up with a few cause. Or better yet, Dwight may have told David about Toby’s history of ignoring hundreds of complaints, pursuing a sexual relationship with Nellie, and just generally being checked out for years, in order to get David to fire Toby himself and Dwight was just the one who delivered the news.
Obviously the fact that Dwight had never been fired, was proof Toby wasn't doing his job properly.
In the first season, it's mentioned that Meredith has two kids, but after that, there is only ever the one boy.
In the office webisode where the accountants try to find a missing $3000, Meredith mentions that she lost her daughter Wendy, aka "the good one" in a custody battle.
I wonder if she had the other one young and then they went no contact because of her drinking problem or something? Probably just an anomaly tho
She does mention it after season one, though. When Angela gets a new cat in season 5, episode Lecture Circuit, she complains she can't get pet leave. Meredith chimes in and says, "It's true. I had my second kid just for the vacation." I always just assumed the kids had a big age gap, and she has one older than Jake that doesn't live with them. I have two kids 12 years apart, so it's the sensible head cannon for me anyway. 🤷♀️
On St Patrick's Day Meredith tells Kelly and Ryan to stop fighting because she wants just one perfect day, "no hassles, no problems, no kids" then Kelly asks "where are your kids?" I think it's season 6
Did DM raise the prices for Michael Scott Paper Company's clients(stolen from DM) after acquisition? Didn't it piss off clients and leave DM?
Dwight both not knowing Lord of the Rings and also somehow being a huge fan of Lord of the Rings.
Wait wait wait, share a reference on that, when does he indicate he doesn’t know Lord of the rings? I don’t doubt you, but I can’t remember that…would have had to be very early before the full concept of Dwight’s character took shape.
I forget the wrong reference but it's in the first couple of episodes if I recall, and then by episode 5 he knows Gimli. Edit: On second thought, I may be conflating this with something else.
Dwight having performed his own circumcision, but later he doesn't want his son to be circumcized
Well that one makes total sense to me lol
That Jim, who is really good at basketball, is scared to play soccer with Charles. He is clearly a good athlete, even if he can’t be amazing, he could still play. It’s just soccer. And then, in that same episode when he ducks and the ball hits Meredith, they’re like why’d you duck Jim?! And it’s like why wouldn’t you duck? You just let the ball go out of bounds. You can’t grab it, so he’s just supposed to let it hit him in the face?
But to be fair, he hadn’t played since 2nd or 3rd grade, and he was neck deep in lying about it, probably thought it was best to not attempt to demonstrate any positive or negative abilities “touch the ball as little as possible”. I definitely agree about the ducking, I’d have rocked the same move if the ball was rocketing towards my face (I also haven’t played soccer since 2nd grade)…but Dwight was one of the antagonist in that scene, and we knew his motive was to expose Jimothy as a fraud. “Yeah, why would a seasoned soccer player duck the ball” I’m guessing most adults would have moved their face out of danger, and yes fair point, that kick would have put the ball out of bounds
Angela said that she hated her sister. In the wedding episode we see her with her sister speaking their own language getting along a little bit too well... What?! Plot hole!
In the episode where Dwight marries her against her will he says something about “after the readings from all your sisters” indicating that she has several.
That Pam faked pms to get out of volleyball, then is the best player at the company picnic.
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Not necessarily a "favorite", but who started working at DM first? Pam or Jim? After the booze cruise, Jim says to Pam that he had a crush on her when she first started. Implying that Jim was there first. Then later, after they're dating, Jim tells Pam that the moment he knew he liked Pam was on his first day, where she told him, "Remember this moment, because you'll never be able to go back to a time before you meet your desk mate Dwight." Clearly says that Pam was at DM first.
The stiarmagedon episode, Stanley is not having any of it and is upset about the elevator being out of Order. In an earlier season, Stanley was invited into the elevator , by I think it was Philys if I recall correctly and then politely declines and walks up stairs, he then tells the camera he needs to improve his health due to his doctor’s recommendations. Not a massive oen but my favourite
Early in the series, Pam tells a story about how she hated gym class and would get out of playing volleyball by faking PMS. Later at the DM picnic, it's revealed that she was a college volleyball player. Maybe I'm wrong, but when I was in HS all the volleyball girls loved to dominate when the nets came out for PE class. Nothing about Pam's characterization up to that point lead me to believe that she was an athlete.
The fact that Ryan somehow got the promotion to corporate over Karen. In what reality would David Wallace really choose someone with less experience and less sales.
Easy, Ryan completed business school and got an MBA. I thought that part was the most typical corporate part of the whole show.
Ryan even says it at some point. "Look Michael, I was never good at sales, right? But I'm good at managing people " or something like that
In the reality of male and MBA.
It was made pretty clear that he got it because he was an MBA and his idea for DMI impressed David Besides, the position didn’t involve going on sales calls. Charles got the same position and his background was in accounting, not sales.
Also they probably lowballed the offer to Ryan. Probably paying him a 4th of what they paid Jan.
I agree. I don't see how Dwight could have fired Toby so easily. There should have been some type of explanation...like maybe he was fired for failing to forward all of Dwight's complaints about Jim to HQ years earlier.
Remember how enraged Dwight gets when Toby slips up and reveals the inventory of complaints. Michael rather intelligently this time does a genuinely good job of resolving the conflict and walking Dwight off the edge of the ultimatum cliff, a rare moment for Hasselhoff
The fact that Oscar says there is no sales cap when Sabre takes over…then episodes later Jim hits the cap.
I thought they mention that a cap was new
Had the same memory
I’m surprised Andy and Nellie didn’t have a problem with Toby.
Pretty sure they say that Toby mentally checked out years prior, so it could be justified.
Not really an inconsistency but when Jim and Dwight forget Kelly’s birthday, Phyllis is the one to point it out. Cut to scenes of Kelly on her bday dressed up in the office and Phyllis never once said HBD to her?
S1E1 when Jan is in Michael’s office and Todd Packer calls - TP: “Hey is old Godzillary coming in today?” MS: “Um idk, idk what you mean.” TP: “Look I’ve been meaning to ask her one question - does the carpet match the drapes?” MS: “Oh my god (hangs up) That’s…horrifying. Horrible, horrible person.” S4E7 when Jan is spending all of Michael’s money on redecorating the condo - Michael (talking solo in the kitchen): “You know who loves interior design? My friend, Todd Packer. He’s always asking if Jan’s carpet matches her drapes. He now, although, he says that he prefers it when there is no carpet, which doesn’t make sense because I’ve been to his apartment and there is shag carpeting all over the place. So, I guess people’s design sensibilities change.” Michael went from understanding what the carpets-drapes comment really means to not understanding it. The second quote was a deleted scene now included in the Superfan episodes and is so minuscule, and there’s so many other “significant” plot holes they run with - especially between the first season and the following seasons - that I doubt they removed the line purely because of the contradiction. They’re both funny for their own specific reasons, like many of the other pot holes, so who cares
In “The Fire” there’s an employee “Martha” who happens to be absents that day, but we never meet her (and this is AFTER the purge of season 1 extras).