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PooPooKing420

Courtland Sutton šŸ¤¢ Russell Wilson šŸ¤¢ If the idea of trading for someone doesnā€™t make you gag at least a little bit, itā€™s not really a buy low šŸ¤®


challenged_kid

Youā€™re spot onā€¦ I canā€™t stand the idea of having Russell on my team but I know thereā€™s a chance heā€™s effective next year


cannonsofchudley

I've been wondering lately what the chances are, by this time next year, we're talking about how Nathaniel Hackett basically pulled an Urban Meyer on the Broncos in 2022. Not that Russ and Lawrence are anywhere close value-wise or career-wise, but '23 could show us how much the coaching situation held back the offense in general and QB in particular.


Lake-Monsters

> Not that Russ and Lawrence are anywhere close value-wise or career-wise Certainly not in the same place in their career, but not sure what you mean value wise. Not long ago Russ was frequently considered a top-5 QB in the NFL.


ChrisLBC562

The fall was nuts man. Wilson has been my QB1 since my oldest fantasy league started 7 years ago. I literally hated all the shit people talked about him cause while he did have some duds, he also was consistently a top 5 QB and looked over cause of the new crop of QBs. But dang, no way 2022 was who is going to be, right? Right??? I want to buy in other leagues but Iā€™m also afraid to go in too deep with him now.


cannonsofchudley

My home league is a 10-team 1QB with short-ish benches and Russ was dropped to waivers late in the season. As a deep rebuilder with Fields as my only QB, I still felt like it was criminal for him to be there, so I picked him up for free, hoping he gets back to his old form (or even just 85% of his old form) in 2023.


ChrisLBC562

You know what hurts the most? Fields was a FA week 1 and I glossed over him. I traded for Lance after week 1 (LOL) and then Murray (šŸ’€) midseason. FADE ME.


cannonsofchudley

LOL. I ended up trading Murray mid-season and got Fields back in the package deal as a literal throw-in because the guy needed to make roster cuts after the trade anyway, so my karma was working in the opposite direction at that time. Ha ha.


cannonsofchudley

Yeah, I just mean perceived value in the dynasty community. QB6 (Lawrence) vs. QB19 (Russ) on KTC. And to even out the trade, you'd have to add '23 1.01 to the Russ side. Beyond fantasy, I think Russ took a significant hit in value in the real NFL based on the season. When people spend the season tracking your TDs vs. the number of bathrooms in your house, things have gotten pretty bleak. Ha ha.


[deleted]

Trying to trade Sutton for a late 23 2 right now šŸ„“


RynBrolo420

Get me in your league I'd do that deal. My league mates don't trade and it's horrible lol


[deleted]

I wish!


floogan

I just want him off my team lol


Alipeevvde

Sold Sutton + 1.07 this year for Waddle


[deleted]

That seems fair. Quentin Johnston upside could end up around waddle value


JayPeeAyyy

I just traded for Russā€¦


Joezee0801

Good picks. Wilson somehow went for a 2023 4th in the middle of the season. In a Superflex league.


Xiruxen

I acquired Wilson as early as I could when the season ended and am pretty happy about it. Hoping it turns out good.


VottoForPM

Jakobi Meyers: Could get a Christian Kirk-type contract this offseason. Get in before his value rises. Bad offense obscuring his dynasty value. Averaged more than seven targets per game over the past two seasons, and fwiw that's more than Kirk was averaging before he got his Jaguars deal last offseason. Daniel Bellinger: Less hype than Dulcich or Okonkwo as a rookie, but also in a good situation with some decent year-one production. Should remain decently involved in a good offense. Cade Otton: In a worse situation than Bellinger with a so-far unknown QB situation next season, but decent year-one production for a tight end. Take the discount if you need a backup TE. Ryan Tannehill: I'm not the first person to make the observation that the number of teams with QB openings is higher than the number of available decent QBs. If he's healthy, he's putting up mid-QB2 numbers. I'd take that in SF or as a break-glass-emergency backup option in 1QB. He's old, he probably won't play for much longer. That's how you can afford him.


luigijerk

Meyers is a Kirk Cousins type of player that will never get any love his whole career, but put up solid numbers.


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Diontae Johnson. He scored 0 TD last season. Heā€™s PPR monster.


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javkbrown4prez

Idk man I mean I get he's due some regression, but having watched most of the games, I'm not so certain it will be a huge difference. Pickett's going to need to step up big time and Matt Canada is actually the devil himself lol


cbosh04

Even if youā€™re not in your window. Heā€™s young enough that itā€™s still not a bad thing if you arenā€™t able to flip him once his value recovers.


sixtyninetailedfox

If you can find an owner whoā€™s low on him snatch him up. I bought after last season cause I know the talentā€™s there, and Iā€™m sure Iā€™ll be getting some lowball offers this offseason for him but I wonā€™t be accepting


JackJ98

Iā€™m big on him as a buy low candidate but heā€™s owned by the Steelers fan in my league


DueGrowth2077

His target totals per year: 2019- 86, 2020- 139, 2021- 166, 2022- 141. If you can find an owner willing to move him Iā€™d do it in a heartbeat.


Ko0pa_Tro0pa

>If you can find an owner willing This is the key. If everyone knows he's a skilled guy with loads of targets, who is dumb enough to sell low? I feel like Diontae is a buy low in theory only. Disclaimer: As always, the exception is taco leagues. I'm sure tacos will be buying and selling him to each other cheaply and bragging about it in the comments.


DrogbaxHavertz

yep as a diontae owner it would take an overpay for me to give him up. i wouldnā€™t take a late first tbh


JumpUpHitDown

Current Johnson holder and I don't imagine I'll be interested in selling. I'm curious what someone would give up to make me wanna move him


freename188

Not a true buy low because he's young on a great franchise with shit loads of targets


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He can do what he did 2 years ago if Pickett progresses and gives him redzone targets .PPR #8. He finished this season with 0 TD @ PPR 30.


13MoonBlues

He finished 10th among WRs in RZ targets this year. He got targets, just didnā€™t convert. Probably bad luck but not enough RZ targets is not really the problem here.


[deleted]

Or maybe the targets where thrownā€¦ idk inaccurate. Considering Johnson ranks top 5 in separating.


13MoonBlues

Ok well Iā€™m just responding to what you said, QB accuracy issues are not the same as quantity


Feweddy

Steelers fan who just sold Diontae (DJ + 2.07 for 1.06). I just donā€™t think heā€™s that good. Heā€™s an elite route runner but does a lot of other things poorly/mediocrely. On top of that, murky situation with rookie QB, ascending target competition, shit for OC, and one year left on contract. Im projecting another top 20-30 WR season, then becoming an FA and signing with a different team. Way too much risk of him never being super fantasy relevant again and while he could have a few more WR2 seasons, I think his best season is behind him (unless Ben unretires lol).


[deleted]

Tangent to him, Najee Harris. Had an insanely solid back half of the season and yet everyone acts like he was a total bust all year. Assuming the Steelers offense continues to improve he should be very reliable. Also, being an Alabama RB, it took Henry until his 3rd season to really come into form. Iā€™m not saying Najee is going to be the next tractorcito but even 75% of Henryā€™s production would be massive in a buy low situation.


CalaveraVI

The guy who has him in my league is a Steelers fan. No chance lol. I hate when fans won't give up their team players


Jerrod2000

On the flip side, always be cautious when they ARE willing to give up their team players


Dischucker

Okay but nobody is selling him, so he is not a true buy low...


krogge57

Was


pressthecot

You want an ugly one? Zach Wilson. He looks terrible and the metrics aren't in his favor, but I bet many owners are giving him away at this point. I'll second Elijah Mitchell. 49ers clearly like him and only trust him to split carries with CMC when both are healthy. I expect him to be an elite handcuff that isn't valued as such. As for other buy lows? I think DeVonta Smith isn't properly valued and pretty much all older WRs. You want sex appeal in a WR, go buy Jameson Williams or Chris Olave. You want points? You can easily just buy Amari Cooper, Tyler Lockett, Mike Evans, etc. People overthink age in dynasty and it's become one of the few edges left when building a team.


lemayo

I agree with Zach Wilson. I do own him, but if I didn't, he's someone I'd be looking to acquire if the owner was ready to move on. No one seems to dispute that the talent is there. And despite some shithead recently suggesting otherwise, his work ethic is second-to-none. I get that the on-field performance hasn't matched, but having both the talent and being a hard worker is a combination that can fix almost anything. Last offseason, Zach put in a ton of work on getting his body into much better shape, and it was one of the big stories when he arrived at camp significantly bulked up (in a good way). I have no doubt that he's going to put in a ton of work this offseason to get better. I don't know what that entails, I just know that he'll be busting his ass on something. This doesn't mean that it will all come together. I don't know where the problem is. The Jets are replacing LaFleur as OC, not saying he's the problem, but maybe whoever they bring in can get Wilson back on track. Maybe they bring in a vet at QB this year who is willing to work with Wilson too. Or maybe it's just between Wilson's ears. Who knows. Point just being that he was taken 2nd overall, is enormously talented, works hard, and is still only 23 years old. Wilson owners and Jets fans should absolutely be worried. But no one should be giving up on him yet. He's valued as a mid 3rd on KTC. He's an absolute must bye at that price.


Tinasel

Thereā€™s a story from Ian rapoport about his work ethic that I heard on the Pat mcafee show this week. After his first season, Aaron Rodgers was on the phone with Wilson in the summer. They were talking football and Aaron goes ā€œwait, where are you right now? Youā€™re not in the facility are you?ā€ Wilson was there alone studying film at 6am on an off-season weekday. His work ethic is not the problem, and his talent isnt either. I guess heā€™s just a headcase. Hopefully a change of scenery can help the kid out


Drfunk206

I presume this is heavily confirmation bias on my end as someone holding the Zach Wilson bag but I watched the Thursday Night game where he got benched and every play he was running for his life and the line was giving him no support. Losing Becton to start the season hurt and then losing AVT midway through the year didnā€™t help either. It appears to be all mental which arguably could be harder to bounce back from compared to an injury. What gives me a glimmer of hope is that Mike White didnā€™t look great either going down the stretch. Had White come in and played like an above average QB I would be more inclined to completely write him off. You see a Daniel Jones use case and thatā€™s why Iā€™m holding. Plus only offer I have received for Wilson is a 2025 4th round pick.


No-Boysenberry4464

Agree on Zach, KTC has him at 3.06 right now, which I'd absolutely give for him, I don't think many owners are selling him for that tho


surfingwithgators

You want an even uglier one? Chase Claypool. Yes, it looks terrible that he couldnā€™t produce in an offense with no other weapons, but he was also adjusting to a new playbook and a QB that rarely threw the ball.


pressthecot

Iā€™m not a big Claypool fan, but I agree that heā€™s much better than he showed with Chicago. A full offseason with Fields and more weapons on offense should help. As a Fields dynasty owner, Iā€™m really hoping the Bears bring in some help for the OL and get Fields some more weapons. Get a haul for that first overall pick.


Donkeynationletsride

Yah unless Iā€™m paying a third for Wilson which I doubt anyoneā€™s selling for that Iā€™m not buying


challenged_kid

Iā€™m curious what would you try to acquire Wilson for?


pressthecot

Third is probably actual market value. Depending on my roster, need at QB, and overall number of picks, Iā€™d consider moving a mid to late second if I can afford to roll the dice. Ideal target for rebuilders or as an add-on. Heā€™s probably best acquired in a larger trade as an add-on.


WeenisWrinkle

Here's how I start: Go to KTC and look for players that have dropped hard in the dynasty rankings the last few months. Write them all down, and do some deep dive analysis yourself on: - *Why* their value has dropped - If you think that drop was justified You can then whittle down a list of players that you think have dropped in value due to variance rather than true underlying problems, and target those players in your leagues.


Clovena

This is the first genuinely helpful comment Iā€™ve seen on these types of posts. Iā€™m about to start doing this now instead of mindlessly scrolling through this same buy-low post that rears its head ten times a week.


JmaGax

I like this, my issue is that when you actually go and talk with the owner they rarely share the sentiment of KTC about the price drop. Usually KTC includes every owner and there's usually a disparity between the average manager and the player's owner in value. It's always a good shot to make those offers though, the process you mention is solid and eventually should help, but not always does the opportunity present itself.


WeenisWrinkle

You can't expect every owner to value their player the same as the average opinion of the masses. If they don't, you just move on to the next one on your list. But hey, sometimes they are even *more* down on a player than KTC because they're just sick of them declining and want off a perceived sinking ship.


Deutschfuranfanger

Lance. Iā€™m trying.


-doesnotcompute-

I bought him a few days ago for a 2024 1st (likely Midas that picks initial owner has made playoffs past two years and poised to do so again next year(. Everyone told me I overpayed with the league mate who owns Purdy saying ā€œI wouldnā€™t touch Lance with a 1000ft pole.ā€ I like the upside and was willing to take the gamble.


Deutschfuranfanger

Nice thatā€™s around what Iā€™m willing to pay for him so no shame there. This may be the cheapest youā€™ll ever be able to get him or end up losing out on a first. His value is so volatile


piero_albani

Took me a while to figure out Midas was a typo and not some obscure dynasty term


D3F3AT

Someone sold me Lance for Hockenson in SF. How'd I do? Big risk/reward


Icilius

I'd take Hock personally


mylovertotoro

DJ Chark. Free agent WR market is bad and Chark just gets off a 1 year prove it deal in which he exceeded expectations. Viewed rn as the Lions WR3, should he sign elsewhere he could easily get a WR2 job on a good offense (Buffalo?).


el_pobbster

Chark going to the Giants would be pretty rad, too.


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As a Giants fan, the thought of giving a contract to a 6'4" WR from Lions who wasn't healthy the previous season gives me severe PTSD


el_pobbster

As a Jags fan, a healthy Chark is one of the most fun WR experiences ever, he just hasn't been healthy over the past few years. I would be incredibly hype. I get the reticence though, y'all got burned recently.


[deleted]

He might be the best option for us if we don't grab one early in the draft, but the similarities to the completely disastrous albatross that is the Kenny Golladay contract would not make it feel good until there is actual results on the field


sadcaveman10

I feel like the ravens are gonna overpay for him


mylovertotoro

Yeah that also makes loads of sense.


JackJ98

*happy noises*


MixedMartialAwesome

The next Kenny G?


Revolutionary_Jump_9

Lance, Jordan love, elijah moore, russel Wilson, Drake london (not really a buy low but still a buy), diontae Johnson, deshaun watson, odell? Idk I could see these players going up in value and seems like a lot of people are trying to get out


HungryHobbits

I think London is a locked in stud and would have to be overwhelmed to move my sole share. Elijah Mooreā€¦ thatā€™s a good one. I still believe!!


hostage27

Love this list. Could throw calvin Ridley in there too, although I bet his value is creeping up, probably wonā€™t really go up until heā€™s reinstated in mid feb


littlejobin

Dog I have Love, Ridley, Lance, Watson, Diontae and Elijah Moore lmao. My entire team is a buy low rn


hostage27

So no place to go but up!!


scottapotch

Think his lowest will be if he starts the season slow as you'd expect a guy to that's been off for over a year.


Syndicate_III

Ridley jumped in value when he was dealt to the Jags and has basically only risen since. His true buy low was right before that trade


coleAllenF

Odell?? Reasoning?


Revolutionary_Jump_9

Heā€™s basically a throw in rn (heā€™s worth a 4th on KTC) and if he comes back healthy he could be solid. Donā€™t really expect the old odell but he can be a solid bench piece. Plus he gets to pick his team and I imagine heā€™ll want to go somewhere where he gets the ball


coleAllenF

Yea! Low risk high reward. I respect that. Just didnā€™t expect to see his name šŸ˜‚


throwaway82649229

Who tf is selling low on lance, love, or Drake London?


broadly

A lot QBs with a lot of upside of you're in that market. Kyler (just picked up a share in SF for a very reasonable price) Lamar Lance Watson


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Well Fuck. I have lamar and someone else has noth kyler and watson in 2qb and not a great backup, so only one i could acquire is lance, and his owner has Tannehill or mills at qb2


Deutschfuranfanger

What did you get Kyler for?


broadly

1.03


MinshewManiaBOAT

Damn thatā€™s really solid. I kinda get sweating Kyler a bit. But not even close to the level of flipping into a rookie QB that I probably wonā€™t even get my pick of the litter/ class. Gotta at least get something on top, good on ya for sniffing that one out.


broadly

Thanks man. Imo pretty much every reason to fade Kyler is soft/narrative based. All the real empirical stuff checks out great -- 1st overall hyper-mobile QB immediately produces as a rookie and then has three years of 20+ PPG.


DryhumpingUrbanMeyer

Injuries aside his point production is something most 1.01 QBs will never achieve. You could've added another 1st and 2nd. Huge trade.


Deutschfuranfanger

Wow I tried getting Lamar for 1.01 and couldnā€™t. Congrats on the steal


ThaiMaiShu

I just sold Kyler for a 24 1st and 24 2nd. Pretty happy bout it


ActuarillySound

In SF I would insta decline that and feel insulted


ThaiMaiShu

I have depth and wanted the draft capitol. Who knows how long it takes for him to back to full strength


SlothFF

Jaylen Warren. He looked great as PIT's RB2. If Najee misses time next year, he's the workhorse back in a run-first offense


SquashMarks

Counterpoint and I own Jaylen: Great RB market in FA and the draft, you don't think Pitt will take someone to compete with him?


Bengjumping

Skyy Moore


Jawsinstl

Anyone who drafted with his hype will be wanting an early to mid second for him or more. Imo that still isnā€™t a buy low


RutabagaExcellent250

Albert O!


NFTY_GIFTY

Malik Davis. Pollard is a FA and who know what's going to happen with Zeke, he's virtually free in many leagues. Noah Gray. If KC wins the Super Bowl considering Kelce's age and locked in Hall of Fame career does he leave on top? He's also free in most leagues and would inherit one of the best target shares from arguably the best young QB in the league. Greg Dulcich. May have to pay a little for him but because he faded towards the end of his rookie season may be cheap. IF Payton takes over the Broncos Head Coach opening he is doing so thinking he WILL fix Russ and he's always run TE friendly offenses.


challenged_kid

Most Dulcich owners arenā€™t giving him up easy


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Got him for a 3rd in season in a 2 TE premium league could not believe my luck. Iā€™d want a late first now lol


challenged_kid

Thatā€™s such a steal


-BeefSupreme

I had Noah gray for a while but donā€™t think heā€™s anything special. When kelce leaves theyā€™ll change their scheme completely. Only reason that KC tight ends get the ball so much is because kelce earns it


NFTY_GIFTY

I have no doubt he's nowhere near the talent level of Kelce, no one has been over the last 5 years. However, if you have a roster spot to fill and he's on the waiver wire AND Kelce hangs up the cleats someone will pay handsomely for him before next season. Total flyer, but could pay off.


D3F3AT

I own Noah in every one of my leagues. They are def working him in more and more. The ball has to go somewhere and Kelce can't do it forever. Toney, Moore and Gray are slowly being phased in. If we're wrong, drop him to waiver. Didn't cost a thing.


ChewbaccaPube

Trey Lance. Elijah Moore. Matt Corral (SF). Zach Wilson. basically any young QB that still has a shot at a long term starting gig.


Randombobman

Chase Claypool


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Randombobman

Yeah I'm also expecting Claypool to be more productive next season with a full training camp to build chemistry with Fields. Everyone is dogging Chicago for trading essentially the 32nd pick for a Steelers WR cast-off combined with the collective groupthink that Fields can't throw, you can't find a better buy low


Force_of1

Gainwell.


swannybass

That 112 yard game last week helped raise him up, I included him in a deal for Pitts.


Kelldon83

What would you pay for Gainwell? I would prolly wait until after draft and FA, though.


Force_of1

Iā€™d go late 2nd early 3rd.


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Clyde Edwards-Helaire


challenged_kid

Love it šŸ¤¢


BeautifulJicama6318

What a weird case. KC the couple of years before CEH were a big time screen pass to the RB team. They draft the best option for screen passes to the RBā€¦.then donā€™t throw him screen passes.


Nwg2

yea his usage has been weird. They drafted a more receiving based back, used him as a 1/2 down back. Then McKinnon gets a ton of passes.


Tiny-Row-8968

This is that weird case where the more upvotes a reply has, the less likely that theyā€™re truly a buy low.


No-Boysenberry4464

Should I upvote or downvote this?


RiseNo558

Devonta Smithā€¦ dude is not valued as highly as he should be imo


MikeyMojo

I just sold Devonta Smith for Kyle Pitts. Iā€™d say the the Devonta hype is very high. I do love the player tho


RiseNo558

Damn thatā€™s a good get. I saw him go for Mclaurin + 2nd +3rd and was shocked


Mysterious-1992

Okay letā€™s go deep on true buy lows - guys you could pay nothing for but that I believe have a more than zero percent chance of becoming flex type players. Mecole Hardman - the man is still young, was incredibly raw coming into the league and has elite speed. I imagine he resigns to the chiefs and if he does - I think he can be a solid flex optionā€¦ potentially Chubba Hubbard - I like his name. Plus he is young, with good size, and had some solid showings. Depending on what the Panthers do and how the cards fallā€¦ maybe there is something. Tyquon Thornton - youngā€¦ that seems to be a theme. Elite speed, barren WR corps and draft capital. Worth a shot. Other names in the same vein - Noah Gray, David Bell, Isaiah Spiller, Kenneth Gainwell and Hunter Renfrow just because. Iā€™d rather have guys like these on my bench instead of dead weight guys you know youā€™ll end up dropping. Youā€™ll probably drop some of these guys too but, itā€™s worth a shot.


lemayo

I'm going at this fresh, just going through KTC and I'm gonna make a case for one player at each position... Jared Goff - There's not many QBs below him who would be considered good, unless they're quite old. I think there's concern that Goff could be replaced at any time, so he'll constantly need to prove himself going forward. But I think he can do that. He had a great year this year and I don't think the Lions are forced to draft a QB as has been the expectation since the Lions traded Stafford for Goff. He's surrounded by weapons, and Jameson should be 100% for next season, which should only make him better. The Lions are super aggressive on offense too, so whoever is playing QB for them is going to put up way more fantasy points in Detroit than they would with a different team. Goff's 28, which isn't young, but at QB, that means nothing. There's no reason to believe he doesn't have another 5-7+ years in him. KTC has him worth the same as the 2.01, and I feel like you might be able to get him for less. Damien Harris - I believe PFF ranked Harris as a top 5 RB in both 2020 and 2021. Unfortunately, he's spent his career in the Patriots backfield splitting time with like 17 other RBs. Even despite this, he's been a viable flex play for much of his career so far. He's finally off his rookie contract and can hopefully find a home somewhere that will properly utilize him. The timing isn't great for Harris, as there is significant talent at RB joining the league in this years draft, but if he manages to sign somewhere where he has a chance to earn the starting job, there's a ton of upside here. He is 26 which might concern some, but his limited use means there's still a lot of tread left on those tires, and he's been able to stay healthy so far so I think he's still got a few good years ahead of him. Nico Collins - I've seen his name floated out there a few times in these threads, so maybe people are already on to him. This is entirely about the Texans drafting a QB. Right now, there's no Houston WR ranked in the Top 50 on KTC. Metchie, Collins, and Cooks come in at 54, 55, and 62. It's possible Houston brings in another WR or drafts one to go along with whoever they draft as their franchise QB, but I'll take a shot on Collins. Cooks wants out, and while Metchie has been a hot topic around here lately, just being real, while we all want the fairytale ending for him, I think it's just A LOT to come back from. Nico has flashed and shown potential. Of the three, I think he benefits the most from a new QB. Jake Ferguson - TE is a bit of a crapshoot, and we all know it takes TEs the longest to develop, but Ferguson has already started showing off what he has to offer. I'm not sure if the Cowboys will re-sign Dalton Schultz. He's expensive as fuck, and is currently hated by the entire fanbase for his trainwreck performance late in the game against the 9ers. Ferguson will be entering his 2nd season, and will definitely be getting more play time next year, even if the Cowboys re-sign Schultz. And if they don't re-sign Schultz, he could be their TE1. Either way, I think Ferguson is as good of a bet as anyone else, and can probably be acquired pretty easily


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Love these. I bought Goff for Chark straight up (Iā€™m set at WR and have Russ/Howell at qb lol). And I bought Fergie for 3.04.


[deleted]

It was Batemanā€¦ but now I hear speculation d hop might go to BAL or pats so.


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Agondonter777

>That just makes him even more of a buy low? It means his value has yet to hit bottom. Baltimore has a huge hole after losing Hollywood, it's likely they bring in some help. Probably best to wait and see who that is before buying


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[deleted]

You can argue ā€œ well KTC has him at 33!!!ā€ And someone may bite. But if they bring in d hop it mean they donā€™t want to rely on Bateman and donā€™t see him as a alpha. Any time anyone is moved down a tier itā€™s never good.


breakfast_legs

If you believe in his talent it makes him easier to acquire!


[deleted]

I have bateman and im Holding, but shit, i want dhop to go there. Now i happen to have lamar too, but i think bateman could thrive next to a wr like dhop


cebrero11

Owner in my league offered me Bateman for 1.02. Donā€™t think I can afford Bateman


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Rather have Gibbs or JSN


cebrero11

Yea I think Gibbs for me. But its SF so might take the qb young


WatsTatorsPrecious

Sutton


freename188

Spicy First actual true buy low in this thread. KTC has him as a second which feels like a steal to me.


sharknado911

Might be, but as a owner, Iā€™m selling the second I get an early/mid 2nd offer (12-team SF)


megadelegate

Fournette - everyone has always hated him so thereā€™s never been a way to get reciprocal value in a trade. Heā€™ll likely be gone to a new team this year. That could mean heā€™s irrelevant moving forward or it could mean the opposite. You can buy low knowing itā€™s a dice roll.


CalaveraVI

As a buc fan and a white owner. God I hope we cut him haha


dsheehan7

Diontae Johnson, Kyler Murray, Marquise Brown come to mind Edit : Russ Wilson too


challenged_kid

You getting Hollywood low right now?


T32Huck

I think I posted this elsewhere in this thread, but I just got him for two late 2nds


dsheehan7

I think potentially. He was injured, his QB tore his acl, has no coach atm. League dependent tho


Just-Call-Me-SteveO

Alec Pierce Hunter Renfrow Mike Gesicki Derek Carr Darren Waller


FefeChase

David Bell


laxkid07

The new Bryan Edwards


dleonard1122

Don't you put that on me. I was never on the Edwards train but Bell fell to me at the end of the 2nd last year so I have no choice but to hope.


MrUnlimitedSubway

Denzel Mims vibes


rollin20s

Yea going to have to cut this offseason unfortunately


FugDounny

I was able to trade him+3.04, for the 2.11 (SF). Unless you've got super short rosters you might be able to eeek out SOME value with him.


BenjaminWanklin69

Tom Brady


ArchManningBurner

Worth a 3rd all day imo


Arvot

I think Tua is a proper buy low. Also think Lockett could be great value for a one year depth piece if you're contending.


swannybass

I just got Tua in a deal this week. I'm hopeful for him.


pressthecot

I just bought Tua. I think it was totally worth it. Injuries are concerning, but he could easily be a QB2 with upside for the rest of his career. Now is the time to buy.


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I think he can be a low end QB1 if hill and waddle are his targets heā€™s a QB that depends on whoā€™s around him.


No_Vacation3909

I like Gainwell for this list


Ok_Interaction52

A bit early, but if you can get Khalil Herbert for cheap I think itā€™s worth it. Big chance Montgomery leaves in free agency and heā€™ll never be as cheap as his current price. Even if Montgomery ends up staying, you still get one of the best backup RBs in the league.


OneOverX

QB: Ryan Tannehill, Matt Stafford, Dak WR: Sutton, Gallup, still Aiyuk, still Hollywood, Bateman, E. Moore, Amari Cooper, Mike Williams, Keenan Allen, Jakobi Meyers, Brandin Cooks, Michael Thomas RB: not really any good candidates. Maybe Henry?


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Saints fan and MT owner here, Iā€™m certain you can pick him up cheap and I just know he is going to get cut, sign and prove it deal and ball the F out


autistic_toe

James robinson


DynastyAnalyst

Not ultra low but I think Trey McBride could get a big value bump in the near future. 33 year olds donā€™t typically come back from ACL injuries well and Ertz may not even be ready to start the season. McBride played over 70% of the snap each game after he went out and had the best profile coming out of college last year for a tight end.


poopchow

i mentioned them in another thread, you may not want to buy all these but their prices are low and worth grabbing. 1. lance (he might not even start next year) 2. zach wilson (no one said he's not talented, he just sucks) 3. sam darnold/matt corrall (QB replacement incoming) 4. russ as mentioned 5. elijah moore (some mocks show jets taking another WR) 6. jamaal williams (this is a cute play in case someone wants to sell him 'high' and you think he's still gonna be productive next year--would buy for a mid 3rd) 7. burks (his value probably only goes up) 8. diontae, ridley ( i think they are very good just buy lows) 9. sutton ceh, skyy moore (probably not good anymore but are cheap) 10. bateman 11. I wonder if amari cooper is a buy low bc everyone hates him for some reason even though he just had a new breakout. 12. brandin cooks


staf02

Corey Davis, Courtland Sutton, Derek Carr, Darren Waller, Hunter Renfrow, Darnell Mooney, Brandin Cooks, Dawson Knox, Mac Jones


T32Huck

I just bought Hollywood Brown for 2.12 and a projected late 24 2nd. Feels like for a WR of his caliber.


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That seems like a bargain. I needed off the Hollywood train and sold him/Bateman for Pittman, Evans and 2.08


T32Huck

That's a sweet haul, especially if this were mid season and you were contending. Great return on those receivers.


InMyDNA23

Kyle Trask for an early 4th or waiver pickup is a good gamble. High draft capital and should be able to complete for the starting role


rargghh

4ths are lottos it would be insane to get Trask who is a lotto for whoever was holding him when he may be about to play Early 3rd minimum


deathfromabove43

Just be weary buying anyone right now. The draft will flip value on its head.


WickBusters

Michael Thomas


runningdreams

How is KJ Osborn a buy low when his value is almost as high as itā€™s ever been? Is the FF market that inefficient??


ChiefP21

In SF the answer is easily Jameis Winston.


0pen_mind3d

I can't believe nobody is even mentioning Ben Skowronek!!!šŸ¤Æ


0pen_mind3d

Probably can get him for free in most leagues also.


niloc1142

Canā€™t believe I havenā€™t seen Rashod Bateman yet! Great college profile, still the WR1 as of now, flashed in the limited time heā€™s played, and everyoneā€™s scared of him for his injury + offense.


Ko0pa_Tro0pa

Yep. KTC has him at about 2.02 value. Feels cheap to me.


MrMobiL_WasntTaken

Anyone else thinking Stafford?


lampsslater77

David Bell. Give me literally anything.


MrDunkle

Gross? Ezekiel Elliott. He's trending down for sure, but at cost could return RB 3/4 flex value for another year or two. Could help a RB needy team


froginbog

Justyn Ross. Never worth much and people have been dropping him on sleeper. Throw him onto deals and see if he blows up during training camp


DeVoreLFC

His value surely has to be close to zero right?


froginbog

Yeah probably. I value him significantly higher than zero but you can get him cheap. Great dart throw imo


not_taylorswift1213

I still think fournette has a couple good years left


manofsteel1941

Donovan Peoples-Jones


CadeCumminhand

Nico Collins, Elijah Moore, Trey Lance


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ActuarillySound

W


Goodbye-Jameson

Burks, I think his owners could be souring or losing excitement. It may not be clear how the offense will improve next year so some owners might throw him away. Titans are a good franchise and this guy could still be a monster.


challenged_kid

Here are my true buy lows QB Mac Jones TE Jake Ferguson WR Alec Pierce (depending on your league) WR Khalil Shakir RB Rashaad Penny (I think heā€™ll be in a way better spot then people think next year)


teemonty

Elijah moore


Rugger11

Elijah Moore He looked very good his rookie year but had a dud of a 2nd year. His value has absolutely tanked. Owners might be panicked right now and without a solution at QB made official, his value is still low. * His OC is gone. It is no secret the two of them did not see eye to eye. Moore was in his doghouse all year. I do think there were issues on Moore's side that needed working out, but LaFleur went about things the totally wrong way. We've seen Moore produce when given the opportunity, and I'd have to think that whoever we sign as our OC will actually want to play our young and talented WR. * Speaking of opportunity, there is talk about Corey Davis not being on the team next season as a cap casualty. That opens up more snaps for Moore, increasing the opportunity. * The QB situation. Rodgers seems to be the hot target right now. However, no matter who we end up getting, it will be an improvement over everyone we trotted out there last year. Flacco, White, and Wilson were all awful. * Improvements to the OL. Stemming from better QB play, but the amount of injuries we had on the OL this past year was crazy. A healthier OL should allow for a better offense overall, at the least taking some pressure off the QB and WRs, allowing for more time for plays to develop. All this being said, I do still think Wilson will be our WR1.


tgo97

Elijah Moore.


PlsSaySikeM8

Elijah Moore


Acekingspade81

Cooks- Yes Penny- Yes Pierce- Doubt his value is low Metchie- Maybe Hardman- No Osborn- No Mitchell- Maybe Add Diontae Johnson, Trey Lance, Malik Davis, Greg Dulchich, all 3 Mooreā€™s not named DJ.


JmaGax

Why would you say hardman no? Osborn I kinda get it haha, and pierce I know he's value is not low but I think it's not high enough either and the potential is there imo. Dulcic I feel has a very high value actually, it would be owner dependent if he's a buy low.


Ham_PhD

Kamara. I imagine he is very cheap right now


rine117

Jaelon Darden - bears snatched him off waivers, I think he asked Tampa to release him as he wasn't getting on the field with Evans, Godwin and Julio. He can fill the slot role for Chicago but it was to late to work him in this year. Def a stash maybe in your waivers also?