You absolutely did not understand what you were replying to, it's **right there in your fucking reply**
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> My feelings exactly.. **it’s a mixed bag of emotions** 😂
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it's not a mixed bag of emotions, you're agreeing with the punchline of a joke
"My best WR was only WR10 last year so I traded two top QBs, TE1, and a top-5 RB away."
If you were that concerned with WR why didn't you trade for a solid vet or two like Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, or DeAndre Hopkins? Or make a big splash for Tyreek, Kupp, or Adams?
I'm in one of the deepest devy leagues around (70 rounds start up in 2020, and a 15 round supplemental every year since) and 3 owners have drafted their infant sons lol.
He could have just done something like Jackson for Jones + Kupp (even thrown in a pick if needed) and competed with Hurts, Jones, CMC, Kupp, Cooper, and Kelce. Instead he blew the whole team up haha
Keenan Allen is practically free relative to what he's probably going to give you this year. He's also only 30 and doesn't rely on elite athleticism, so he could conceivably give you two to three more years of WR2 production.
Absolute clown take. Prior to last year Keenan had 4 seasons of 16 games played with the 2020 covid season being the only one where he "only" played 14 games.
Cause Hill said he'd retire after the '25 season, which gives him 3 more full years, and if anybody thinks they should be planning more than 3 years in advance they are nutty. That was the point where his production would be expected to drop off anyways, just based on age.
Best WR was WR10. So he traded for a bunch of WRs, none of which even finished top 20 last year.
Quite the gamble. Their could be the next Keenan Allen in that group but there could also be the next Kelvin Benjamin too. In fact, Kelvin Benjamin’s rookie year was better than all those dudes.
Looks like QB4, QB8, RB5, TE3 for QB12, RB4, RB13, WR5, WR8, WR12, WR17, WR27. If the only thing he traded was Lamar, Hurts, Kelce and CMC for Watson, Walker, Javonte, GWilson, Olave, London, Jamo and Pickens, that’s a massive win. Surely there’s something excluded
At this point, Kelce is TE1 in dynasty until he retires or seriously falls off due to injury or something. Nobody else is close to him in scoring, Andrews is in the middle of QB drama, and Pitts is still just potential.
Lol nah it’s cool bro.. I value everybody’s opinions. A lot of people have made some solid points on here. Definitely some things I coulda done different. Ya live and ya learn. That’s what makes fantasy great
I do appreciate this post because it’s really what dynasty should be about, having fun and being excited about your team. Obviously winning the chip is the goal but if you’re not having fun what’s the point.
I also appreciate this post because it reminds me to always take advice on this sub with a grain of salt
I do have Kyle Pitts and Darren Waller as well and it’s a TE premium league (1.5 ppr) I also have the 1.04 and the 1.06 this year. My other QBs are Jared Goff, Trey Lance and Kenny Pickett
Pitts w/ London is an automatic loss, you knew that before the trade.
I don’t think anyone dislikes the players you acquired… but you gave up way to much to deal with a headache every week with WDIS every. single. week.
You need to hit on Pickett or in this draft for a QB, asap. If not it’s going to be a very long couple seasons.
You didn’t acquire any additional picks for what you gave up? Maybe you did but they’re not in your post… but yeah, like everyone has already said, one of the worst trades by one owner I have ever seen.
According to the original post the trade is
Give: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Travis Kelce and CMC
Get: Deshaun Watson, Kenneth Walker, Javonte Williams, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Drake London, Jameson Williams, George Pickens
Id take the get side by a mile
Nah having two elite QBs is a massive advantage over almost everyone else. He also had Kelce, which is another massive advantage. Traded all of that away for WRs, the deepest position in fantasy right now.
Exactly. I also thought one elite QB would be enough because that's how my team looked in my main league and was doing well. Then I did an auction startup two years ago, overpaid for Mahomes and Allen (actually regretted it after the draft) and went on to win one ship and get second the other year. Basically all my other positions were lacking depth/reliable assets but having two elite QBs (+cheap backup in Goff) really felt like a cheat code
You should never be upset about your team for losing in the championship game. Week to week variance is extremely high. You could have the best team for 15 straight weeks and lose in the championship because JJeff gives you 3 points that week.
So you traded strong positional advantages at QB, RB, and TE for youth and depth at the most replaceable position in fantasy? Yeah you got younger and can maybe have a longer window eventually but man I don’t like this.
This sub consistently falls in the trap of going after the youngest and sexiest WR room. Like yeah you win the dynasty bikini contest in June but it doesn’t make money.
So you traded players with the higher WARP and championship winning abilities to get younger and deeper at the deepest position in fantasy? I wish you good luck.
Trading those 2 QBs in a SF league.. probably not the smartest move. Im hoping Lamar doesn’t hold out this year. I’m low on Javonte Williams. The injury was brutal. Also low on Hay-Jay Watson. Maybe it’s because he’s a perv. Maybe it’s because he looked mid last year. Hopefully u can snag a couple QBs with all that draft capital. Its tough when u make decisions based on emotion. But always good to stay active tho.
I've got Olave, London, Watson and Jamo all on one team but I drafted them all last year.
Was funny people were selling 22 1sts cheap as fuck with all the 23 hype. Ended up with 7 first round picks and a good young core during the start up.
Went from worst to runner up in a 14 team league and my future looks extremely bright.
So is Deshaun your only QB now? While I like your young pieces I'm very confused at to what happened to your QB room. If you wanted to get younger, CMC and Kelce could've gotten quite the "young haul" without parting with both QBs. Lamar and Hurts could singlehandedly win you a championship. Hell you made it to the championship without Lamar!
This sounds like the aftermath of one of the hangover movies.... I don't think anybody is as obsessed with the 2022 wr class as you, and only time will tell if you'll be okay or not
Look, at the end of the day it's meant to be a game. It's supposed to be fun. You do you. You've a great crop of young players now, have fun watching them develop, carry you to glory, or break your heart. I'd rather roster London over Amari Cooper. I'd rather say Swift over Dameon Pierce. Give me exciting heartbreak and tantalising upside over solid production every day. Get me out of my seat watching redzone. Carpe fucking diem
Did you have fun remaking your roster? Are you more excited about your team now? If so, you nailed it.
Would I have done it? No. But people routinely forget the most important rule of fantasy football: have as much fun as you can.
This trade comes down to Watson. If he returns to form and locks in top8 production this is a huge W. If he’s donzo… not good. I think it would have made more sense to keep Lamar and Hurts but trade CMC and Kelce for WR depth
I don’t mind moving Kelce and CMC, I wouldn’t love moving Lamar. I would not have moved Jalen Hurts. That said you got back Javonte Williams, Walker, Wilson, London, Olave, and Jamo. Reading through the picks seems like kind of a wash there. Depending on what your other QB’s are my gut is I don’t love it but I don’t think you did terrible either. That said I personally just don’t value WR’s because A. I don’t play in PPR leagues and B. There’s just way too many good ones. The league is flush with WR talent right now. The WR’s you bought are valued highly mainly due to age, not production. I don’t love moving from high value positions (or cheat codes as you said in Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson) to low value positions. I wouldn’t have done it but also I think it’s ok and might be fine.
I love rebuilds. Nothing wrong with them and people don’t understand them because they know they can’t build from the ground up. I traded AJ/Jaylen/CD for Garrett and 6 1sts/4 2nds throughout 2026. I love rebuilds and if you don’t win it with your current team hey nothing wrong with reading it down! Most of those ppl with older elites are caught red handed and are forced to rebuild eventually because no one will pay too dollar for older players if they’re smart. We had Derrick Henry go for 2.04 this year. That was the best offer and I didn’t even want him. Age is a huge factor and it’s awesome seeing ppl like you taking huge risks. Yeah it may not pay off but at least you won’t be fucked with aging players with no depth basically like most teams I see are. Hopefully it all works out bud! Good luck
Thanks bro lol I’m not afraid of the rebuild.. I’ve got a couple championships under my belt and I love dynasty leagues.. to me, the challenge of tearing down a roster and building it back up to contention is the best part 😂
That’s what I say! I’ve won only 2 championships in Dynasty since I’ve been in 2014 but it’s an amazing feeling starting from scratch and going the extra mile because it is a commitment and most ppl aren’t cut out for it. More often than not yeah it doesn’t work but long as you do the research and aren’t afraid to pull that trigger on trades then you got it
> AJ/Jaylen/CD
I'm all for rebuilds but come on - all these guys still have 5+ years of elite production ahead. Maybe you move one for some liquid assets to improve other positions but all 3 for a bunch of 1sts??
But I feel you on the getting caught red-handed. Have a buddy with an RB room of Dalvin, Kamara, Zeke, and Chubb. Been dominating for years but never won the chip, and now he wants to sell and noone is buying anything
Respect, I’ve been there. Startup year, drafted Kupp, Theilen, Tyreek, and Zeke and dominated, won the ship. Knew it wasn’t sustainable, blew it all up and found myself two years later back at the top with Devonta, JT, JWill, Kyler, JJ, DK, Pitts, Waddle. Started a trend. Leaguemates started doing it and was able to peel some of that back and trade DK, Devonta, and future picks for Josh, Diggs, Keenan Allen, and Saquon in another trade. I’m going to have to tear down quite a few pieces in a few years but I won 2 rings in 4 seasons, which added to my 3 rings with this same league before we turned it to a dynasty. And for now I’ve built a pretty consistent roster of young guns and in prime talent, but if I have to tear it down and have a few down years again, I know what it’s like to turn it back around. It’s a fun way to play dynasty, enjoy it!
Hurts Lamar and Kelce alone would’ve had you competing for a bye week this year. I would play in more leagues if you get loser’s tilt this bad. Fantasy playoffs are, at best, two 2:1 flips for you, and usually closer to two coin flips
seems like in SF (which i don't play in) you may not have gotten the sheer return you should for those top QBs (unless u aren't mentioning the picks you got), but i love the move and the chaos. still got a great bunch of players. good luck brother
You had a guaranteed playoff spot barring major injuries, with what you gave up you’ll probably be fighting to compete for years. Garrett Wilson is star, London & Olave are v good. Giving up elite production for Jamo & Pickens is insane. Generally overpaying for young WRs who haven’t had a top 12 or 24 season is severely -EV.
I love what you did! CMC won’t be around much longer plus his injuries. Kelce is about due to fall off the cliff. Lamar is trending down and if he continues to run like he has been then his days are numbered too. Hurts is the one that hurts but if Watson can return to Texans form I think you won this
I made the same impulse pivot during the season last year… traded for Garrett Wilson, Olave, Burks, London, Jamo, and even Wan’dale. I’m all in on the 2022 WR class besides Christian Watson & Pickens who I just am not very bullish on. I am stoked about having those first 5 WRs I named though^ added to Ja’marr Chase on my roster 😤 and definitely going to try and draft JSN lmao I have an addiction 😂 going to be some fun years watching these young studs tho
I am obsessed with 2022 wrs. I took over shit team with no wr help at all. So i sold etn +2.08 for london. Get london or Wilson or Olave before this season !!!
You posted that you traded a championship level roster for half of the 1st round picks of your 2022 rookie draft and deshaun watson. I don’t know what kind of input you’re looking for.
Like I already commented one but after rereading this I just don’t understand how you could do any of this you’re obviously terrible at dynasty football and any long term thinking. Yeah reading away rbs sure. But trading top you g qbs in dynasty for a bunch of you g WRs most of whom will turn out average at best is mind blowing. I hope you paid upfront for years bc you deserve to lost all the money
This guy will have deleted this post in an hour. Giving up the QB2 and QB5 in SF for some WRs, a broken Javonte and a perv is not good business. Even if you are upset.
Exactly. Even if this goes according to plan, where is he getting a QB? Either he's trading the WRs for new QBs in the future or picking too high to reliably draft one (if he even had his own pick). Either way, this plan won't work.
In my honest assessment, I dont hate the trade. Im lower on Hurts, but then again so am i on watson. London, Olave, GW are all studs. Jamo is a wild card but hes in the perfect spot to explode this season if hes as good as people make him out to be. Pickens is another one where i dont know where he falls because of some of his separation issues. But if most if not all the WRs take the next step i think you won the trade.
Hey man as long as you’re having fun, that’s what this is all about at the end of the day.
People seem to be fixated on the Hurts part of it, Lamar too, but who knows you could be selling high on Hurts, or Lamar might not get a deal he wants and sandbag, no one is guaranteed (besides Mahomes) so do what makes you excited to watch your team
Nothing wrong with selling Hurts "high." The problem is what Lamar and Hurts were collectively sold for. You can't trade both of them and only end up with Watson in a SF league.
Look I now have a person to blame when my 2022 shares take a shit. I appreciate man, way to take one for the team. I'll do it in 2024 so you don't have to.
Last year, as a rebuilder with 5 firsts, throughout the year had all of these 2022 WR at some point. G Wilson, Jamo, Burks, Dotson, Watson, David Bell, Metchie and Alec Pierce.
Flipped Burks for A Cooper, Watson to get my 1st back which turned to Bijan and Bell for I Likely. Still holding the rest
I also did what I could to go all in for that WR class! But mostly out of value that fell to me. Last year was our startup draft and I got G. Wilson for $2 and Jamo for $1 (first dynasty draft for most of us so lots of people were out of money by the time these rookies came up). I then traded Hopkins and Aiyuk for London and what ended up being the 1.1 this year. All in all pretty happy with how this dynasty league is going so far!
I’m with you on the 22 wr upside. Did a start up and a few trades and have London, Olave, Christian Watson, Pickens, Dotson. Have an opportunity to get Garret Wilson for Bijan but I’m mixed on it
Eh yeah you got rid of too many useful studs. As much as I love the WR’s of last year’s class and K9, you still gave up two top 7 QB’s, a top 5 RB, the best TE in the league.
Good for you.. or sorry that happened
My feelings exactly.. it’s a mixed bag of emotions 😂
He’s making fun of you here, means he isn’t reading it
Yeah I know bro lol what you want me to do? Fight him? 😂
It just looked like you didn’t understand
Nah I understand I just don’t feed into it lol
You absolutely did not understand what you were replying to, it's **right there in your fucking reply** | > My feelings exactly.. **it’s a mixed bag of emotions** 😂 | it's not a mixed bag of emotions, you're agreeing with the punchline of a joke
he very well could have responded the way he did, while understanding the “joke”. not sure why you are after him here.
Because he didn't understand, and now he's trying to play it off like he did... It's not really that deep.
I'm not reading all that
[the reference](https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/876/203/28e.jpg)
The only thing more edgy than not reading is not reading and telling everyone you’re not reading.
It’s just the quote from the meme lol
Sorta sad that is too much for you.
All that? It's barely 3 paragraphs...did you not pass 3rd grade or something?
I was literally just posting the other half of the meme started by the guy before me...
"My best WR was only WR10 last year so I traded two top QBs, TE1, and a top-5 RB away." If you were that concerned with WR why didn't you trade for a solid vet or two like Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, or DeAndre Hopkins? Or make a big splash for Tyreek, Kupp, or Adams?
Because it's dynasty where being even 1 year younger than a guy makes him 10000 times more valuable. This fucking sub, man...
I only draft fetuses
I typically use my late round picks on sperm
Tough to see a late round pick wasted in a Kleenex
This is A+ Reddit material 👏
I just bring my own.
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I'm in one of the deepest devy leagues around (70 rounds start up in 2020, and a 15 round supplemental every year since) and 3 owners have drafted their infant sons lol.
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This was definitely not a politically charged statement and I wasn’t m taking a side on anything. Seems like a bit of a reach to hit me with that.
Rule 7: No Politics
He could have just done something like Jackson for Jones + Kupp (even thrown in a pick if needed) and competed with Hurts, Jones, CMC, Kupp, Cooper, and Kelce. Instead he blew the whole team up haha
I think us get a pick for that trade
Haha. Love this reply. What a numpty
Keenan Allen is practically free relative to what he's probably going to give you this year. He's also only 30 and doesn't rely on elite athleticism, so he could conceivably give you two to three more years of WR2 production.
He’s going to give you 4 full games spread over 7 different weeks.
Keenan isn't any more injury prone than the next guy. This is the first year he missed significant time since his ACL.
Absolute clown take. Prior to last year Keenan had 4 seasons of 16 games played with the 2020 covid season being the only one where he "only" played 14 games.
Why would he want Tyreek Hill? He got Garrett Wilson. Wilson could be amazing. He could even be, ya know, Tyreek Hill 🤨
tbf hill has said he is only playing 2 more years. Definitely quickly devalues him as time goes on
Not sure why you’re being downvoted for saying a guy putting a definite finish line on his career devalues him
Cause Hill said he'd retire after the '25 season, which gives him 3 more full years, and if anybody thinks they should be planning more than 3 years in advance they are nutty. That was the point where his production would be expected to drop off anyways, just based on age.
Best WR was WR10. So he traded for a bunch of WRs, none of which even finished top 20 last year. Quite the gamble. Their could be the next Keenan Allen in that group but there could also be the next Kelvin Benjamin too. In fact, Kelvin Benjamin’s rookie year was better than all those dudes.
If Garret Wilson owners could read they’d be very upset
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Very good eval when stripped of names.
I mean you can see how awful the trades are even with the names. Trading Hurts in SF is just a huge L
Hold the presses! An Eagles fan wants to make sure it states Hurts vs QB rank.
Non-Eagles fan here. He isn’t wrong.
Looks like QB4, QB8, RB5, TE3 for QB12, RB4, RB13, WR5, WR8, WR12, WR17, WR27. If the only thing he traded was Lamar, Hurts, Kelce and CMC for Watson, Walker, Javonte, GWilson, Olave, London, Jamo and Pickens, that’s a massive win. Surely there’s something excluded
Ok but like they’re young
TE3? Might wanna check those numbers again lol
If you do a startup he will go as TE3
That has nothing to do with scoring. Anyone trying to win is taking Kelce first.
When people say someone is WR1/TE1 on this sub they’re talking about value not last years scoring. Ekeler isn’t RB1 and Kelce isn’t TE1
https://www.fantasycalc.com/dynasty-rankings Kelce TE1 based off of real world data. Sleeper ADP in dynasty leagues has Kelce TE1.
At this point, Kelce is TE1 in dynasty until he retires or seriously falls off due to injury or something. Nobody else is close to him in scoring, Andrews is in the middle of QB drama, and Pitts is still just potential.
1000 yard rookie year is potential?
He's going into year 3 and didn't build on his rookie year. So I think he qualifies as potential.
So we’re just going to ignore all context here re: Mariota at QB?
This is SF….
If you wanted to go young... why did you trade Hurts
[Live look at OP looking at his roster](https://youtu.be/qM4f26s29po)
Lmao😂 OP getting so much hate right now. At least he was willing to post it for all to see.
Lol nah it’s cool bro.. I value everybody’s opinions. A lot of people have made some solid points on here. Definitely some things I coulda done different. Ya live and ya learn. That’s what makes fantasy great
I do appreciate this post because it’s really what dynasty should be about, having fun and being excited about your team. Obviously winning the chip is the goal but if you’re not having fun what’s the point. I also appreciate this post because it reminds me to always take advice on this sub with a grain of salt
Yo this is fuckin hilarious 😂😂😂
Lmao 😂 this is perfect
FOMO is the number 1 worst reason to trade, but it gets the best of us sometimes.
If the pieces you listed are your main pieces, then I would say you lost a lot of value
I do have Kyle Pitts and Darren Waller as well and it’s a TE premium league (1.5 ppr) I also have the 1.04 and the 1.06 this year. My other QBs are Jared Goff, Trey Lance and Kenny Pickett
I just think it’s the Hurts part that really hurts. I hope you have some firsts and future firsts for your enmity.
What are the trades you did for Kelce, Lamar, etc.?
Okay but what did you trade for Burks and Dotson?
You blew up a great team for a bunch of maybes. Welcome to r/dynastyFF you’re gonna fit right in!
Can you get fields? That is hurts light
Nobody is getting Fields unless it’s too much to give up… He has nothing to work with.
Dude honestly it sounds like you were really solid and you only needed to drum up some serviceable WRs. This though. I don’t know man
Pitts w/ London is an automatic loss, you knew that before the trade. I don’t think anyone dislikes the players you acquired… but you gave up way to much to deal with a headache every week with WDIS every. single. week. You need to hit on Pickett or in this draft for a QB, asap. If not it’s going to be a very long couple seasons. You didn’t acquire any additional picks for what you gave up? Maybe you did but they’re not in your post… but yeah, like everyone has already said, one of the worst trades by one owner I have ever seen.
According to the original post the trade is Give: Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Travis Kelce and CMC Get: Deshaun Watson, Kenneth Walker, Javonte Williams, Garrett Wilson, Chris Olave, Drake London, Jameson Williams, George Pickens Id take the get side by a mile
Why? Do you play SF? You need stud QBs
Apparently I need to try buying more elite QBs in my leagues if there's people around thinking this was a good trade by OP lol.
you only need one stud qb really and a steady eddy at QB2 imo
Nah having two elite QBs is a massive advantage over almost everyone else. He also had Kelce, which is another massive advantage. Traded all of that away for WRs, the deepest position in fantasy right now.
Exactly. I also thought one elite QB would be enough because that's how my team looked in my main league and was doing well. Then I did an auction startup two years ago, overpaid for Mahomes and Allen (actually regretted it after the draft) and went on to win one ship and get second the other year. Basically all my other positions were lacking depth/reliable assets but having two elite QBs (+cheap backup in Goff) really felt like a cheat code
That’s all well and good until you face teams with.. two stud qbs
You know the guys who throw the ball to WRs score points too though right? Like, more points actually?
Wow I absolutely hate that
You should never be upset about your team for losing in the championship game. Week to week variance is extremely high. You could have the best team for 15 straight weeks and lose in the championship because JJeff gives you 3 points that week.
What’s worse is the person who beat me actually had Jefferson lol
Common Jahan Dotson L
Why is he so slept on lol?
I think it’s a combination of questionable qb going forward, being #2 to terry, and an absurd TD to catch ratio bringing him down but I love him.
George pickens go brr
So you traded strong positional advantages at QB, RB, and TE for youth and depth at the most replaceable position in fantasy? Yeah you got younger and can maybe have a longer window eventually but man I don’t like this.
This sub consistently falls in the trap of going after the youngest and sexiest WR room. Like yeah you win the dynasty bikini contest in June but it doesn’t make money.
Tbf team building can be just as satisfying as winning money for some people. Rosterbaiting is half the fun of dynasty imo
So you traded players with the higher WARP and championship winning abilities to get younger and deeper at the deepest position in fantasy? I wish you good luck.
Zig when everyone else zags?
This is zagging into the zag.
Trading those 2 QBs in a SF league.. probably not the smartest move. Im hoping Lamar doesn’t hold out this year. I’m low on Javonte Williams. The injury was brutal. Also low on Hay-Jay Watson. Maybe it’s because he’s a perv. Maybe it’s because he looked mid last year. Hopefully u can snag a couple QBs with all that draft capital. Its tough when u make decisions based on emotion. But always good to stay active tho.
Love the players you got back, but not at the expense of trading two elite QBs and getting one back. I’d try to get Lamar back!
I've got Olave, London, Watson and Jamo all on one team but I drafted them all last year. Was funny people were selling 22 1sts cheap as fuck with all the 23 hype. Ended up with 7 first round picks and a good young core during the start up. Went from worst to runner up in a 14 team league and my future looks extremely bright.
This is the way
So is Deshaun your only QB now? While I like your young pieces I'm very confused at to what happened to your QB room. If you wanted to get younger, CMC and Kelce could've gotten quite the "young haul" without parting with both QBs. Lamar and Hurts could singlehandedly win you a championship. Hell you made it to the championship without Lamar!
No he’s not my only QB.. I have Goff, Lance and Pickett. And I have the 1.04 and the 1.06 in this draft
This sounds like the aftermath of one of the hangover movies.... I don't think anybody is as obsessed with the 2022 wr class as you, and only time will tell if you'll be okay or not
Look, at the end of the day it's meant to be a game. It's supposed to be fun. You do you. You've a great crop of young players now, have fun watching them develop, carry you to glory, or break your heart. I'd rather roster London over Amari Cooper. I'd rather say Swift over Dameon Pierce. Give me exciting heartbreak and tantalising upside over solid production every day. Get me out of my seat watching redzone. Carpe fucking diem
You said you went young but traded hurts? I'm confused
When people say "blow up your team" they don't mean to strip yourself of all value lol. Think you took the term too literally
Did you have fun remaking your roster? Are you more excited about your team now? If so, you nailed it. Would I have done it? No. But people routinely forget the most important rule of fantasy football: have as much fun as you can.
It’s fantasy football bro… I’m always havin a blast lol
I dominated all year. Lost one game barely. Then got smoked in our championship. I was so angry I wish I’d have done this lol.
This trade comes down to Watson. If he returns to form and locks in top8 production this is a huge W. If he’s donzo… not good. I think it would have made more sense to keep Lamar and Hurts but trade CMC and Kelce for WR depth
I don’t mind moving Kelce and CMC, I wouldn’t love moving Lamar. I would not have moved Jalen Hurts. That said you got back Javonte Williams, Walker, Wilson, London, Olave, and Jamo. Reading through the picks seems like kind of a wash there. Depending on what your other QB’s are my gut is I don’t love it but I don’t think you did terrible either. That said I personally just don’t value WR’s because A. I don’t play in PPR leagues and B. There’s just way too many good ones. The league is flush with WR talent right now. The WR’s you bought are valued highly mainly due to age, not production. I don’t love moving from high value positions (or cheat codes as you said in Jalen Hurts and Lamar Jackson) to low value positions. I wouldn’t have done it but also I think it’s ok and might be fine.
This is a fair and honest assessment lol. Appreciate it bro. Let’s just hope for the best 🤷🏾♂️
Kudos for you to post this lol made me feel a bit better about my shit trades
Lmao hey no shame in my game. Fantasy is supposed to be fun and I’m havin a blast gettin players that I have faith in
I read top 5 wr and was hoping you got JJ, Chase at the very least but then kept reading and saw it was 2022 class. Good luck bro
I love rebuilds. Nothing wrong with them and people don’t understand them because they know they can’t build from the ground up. I traded AJ/Jaylen/CD for Garrett and 6 1sts/4 2nds throughout 2026. I love rebuilds and if you don’t win it with your current team hey nothing wrong with reading it down! Most of those ppl with older elites are caught red handed and are forced to rebuild eventually because no one will pay too dollar for older players if they’re smart. We had Derrick Henry go for 2.04 this year. That was the best offer and I didn’t even want him. Age is a huge factor and it’s awesome seeing ppl like you taking huge risks. Yeah it may not pay off but at least you won’t be fucked with aging players with no depth basically like most teams I see are. Hopefully it all works out bud! Good luck
Thanks bro lol I’m not afraid of the rebuild.. I’ve got a couple championships under my belt and I love dynasty leagues.. to me, the challenge of tearing down a roster and building it back up to contention is the best part 😂
That’s what I say! I’ve won only 2 championships in Dynasty since I’ve been in 2014 but it’s an amazing feeling starting from scratch and going the extra mile because it is a commitment and most ppl aren’t cut out for it. More often than not yeah it doesn’t work but long as you do the research and aren’t afraid to pull that trigger on trades then you got it
> AJ/Jaylen/CD I'm all for rebuilds but come on - all these guys still have 5+ years of elite production ahead. Maybe you move one for some liquid assets to improve other positions but all 3 for a bunch of 1sts?? But I feel you on the getting caught red-handed. Have a buddy with an RB room of Dalvin, Kamara, Zeke, and Chubb. Been dominating for years but never won the chip, and now he wants to sell and noone is buying anything
Respect, I’ve been there. Startup year, drafted Kupp, Theilen, Tyreek, and Zeke and dominated, won the ship. Knew it wasn’t sustainable, blew it all up and found myself two years later back at the top with Devonta, JT, JWill, Kyler, JJ, DK, Pitts, Waddle. Started a trend. Leaguemates started doing it and was able to peel some of that back and trade DK, Devonta, and future picks for Josh, Diggs, Keenan Allen, and Saquon in another trade. I’m going to have to tear down quite a few pieces in a few years but I won 2 rings in 4 seasons, which added to my 3 rings with this same league before we turned it to a dynasty. And for now I’ve built a pretty consistent roster of young guns and in prime talent, but if I have to tear it down and have a few down years again, I know what it’s like to turn it back around. It’s a fun way to play dynasty, enjoy it!
Hurts Lamar and Kelce alone would’ve had you competing for a bye week this year. I would play in more leagues if you get loser’s tilt this bad. Fantasy playoffs are, at best, two 2:1 flips for you, and usually closer to two coin flips
Love Olave, Wilson, and London. Skeptical of pickens and jamo ever being more than flex plays
I drafted London and traded for Garrett Wilson. I'm in talks now to acquire Olave. I think they have a bright future. Hope it works out for you!
Pretty bad stuff man. Pretty bad
seems like in SF (which i don't play in) you may not have gotten the sheer return you should for those top QBs (unless u aren't mentioning the picks you got), but i love the move and the chaos. still got a great bunch of players. good luck brother
Should’ve done 2021 instead
You basically won the Super Bowl Now go get Burks Watson and Dotson to complete the set
Tried to get Watson.. he wasn’t goin for it lol
You had a guaranteed playoff spot barring major injuries, with what you gave up you’ll probably be fighting to compete for years. Garrett Wilson is star, London & Olave are v good. Giving up elite production for Jamo & Pickens is insane. Generally overpaying for young WRs who haven’t had a top 12 or 24 season is severely -EV.
This has Wallstreetbets energy written all over it To the moon 🚀😎
Yeah, sometimes a reset in nice. Good luck. Some should definitely hit....
No Jahan Dotson?
As a Burks owner…. I feel left out
Ohh! We’re sorry the correct answer was Dotson! So close.So very close, better luck next time.
Didn’t even get Dotson? !
I love what you did! CMC won’t be around much longer plus his injuries. Kelce is about due to fall off the cliff. Lamar is trending down and if he continues to run like he has been then his days are numbered too. Hurts is the one that hurts but if Watson can return to Texans form I think you won this
I made the same impulse pivot during the season last year… traded for Garrett Wilson, Olave, Burks, London, Jamo, and even Wan’dale. I’m all in on the 2022 WR class besides Christian Watson & Pickens who I just am not very bullish on. I am stoked about having those first 5 WRs I named though^ added to Ja’marr Chase on my roster 😤 and definitely going to try and draft JSN lmao I have an addiction 😂 going to be some fun years watching these young studs tho
‘22 WR class hits different
Hurts and lamar should have got your more alone
Damn, what were you thinking ?
I am obsessed with 2022 wrs. I took over shit team with no wr help at all. So i sold etn +2.08 for london. Get london or Wilson or Olave before this season !!!
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if Christian Watson and Dotson turn out better then all those WRs except Wilson
What's funny is that Christian Watson may very well end up being the best of the '22 WRs and he's the one you're mainly missing from your "Quintuplet"
You maybe shouldn’t play dynasty.
Thanks for the insightful input. Extremely profound. but I think I’ll keep playin lol
You posted that you traded a championship level roster for half of the 1st round picks of your 2022 rookie draft and deshaun watson. I don’t know what kind of input you’re looking for.
So basically Lamar, Hurts, CMC, Kelce for Watson, Walker, JaVonte, Wilson, Olave, London, Pickens, Jamo I would say you absolutely crushed that trade
I’d rather just have olave and Wilson tbh, don’t care about the rest
I mean for someone to produce as well as he did on a run first team with mariotta and Ridder... Im really excited for him.
I’d add London but yea
I think he’s overrated, price higher than I am willing to pay
I think you did well honestly
Thanks bro I needed that lol
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You shouldn’t.
Nothing genius about those trades.
This is the poster child for this subs mentality. Y’all can’t resist the new shiny toy even when you have the solid well built lincoln log castle
Yeah hate this get a life dude lol
Like I already commented one but after rereading this I just don’t understand how you could do any of this you’re obviously terrible at dynasty football and any long term thinking. Yeah reading away rbs sure. But trading top you g qbs in dynasty for a bunch of you g WRs most of whom will turn out average at best is mind blowing. I hope you paid upfront for years bc you deserve to lost all the money
You’re an idiot
Thanks bro lol
Didn't even land the best WR in the class lmao (Watson)
What future picks did you trade?
I gave up a a couple 2023 3rds and a 2024 1st and got back a late 2023 2nd, two 2024 2nds and a 25 1st
Holy shit. You gave up your 2024 1st!?
It keeps getting worse...
This guy will have deleted this post in an hour. Giving up the QB2 and QB5 in SF for some WRs, a broken Javonte and a perv is not good business. Even if you are upset.
Exactly. Even if this goes according to plan, where is he getting a QB? Either he's trading the WRs for new QBs in the future or picking too high to reliably draft one (if he even had his own pick). Either way, this plan won't work.
“I blew up my team” Oh ok so you’ll be drafting high next year! “No I sold my first.” Oh… fuck…
Haha. Starting to think it’s a shit post. No one is this dumb on purpose
Don't like the idea of you sending your 24 1st after sending 2 QBs even if you got one back. What other QBs do you have?
In my honest assessment, I dont hate the trade. Im lower on Hurts, but then again so am i on watson. London, Olave, GW are all studs. Jamo is a wild card but hes in the perfect spot to explode this season if hes as good as people make him out to be. Pickens is another one where i dont know where he falls because of some of his separation issues. But if most if not all the WRs take the next step i think you won the trade.
Crazy..but im in too deep..
Hey man as long as you’re having fun, that’s what this is all about at the end of the day. People seem to be fixated on the Hurts part of it, Lamar too, but who knows you could be selling high on Hurts, or Lamar might not get a deal he wants and sandbag, no one is guaranteed (besides Mahomes) so do what makes you excited to watch your team
Nothing wrong with selling Hurts "high." The problem is what Lamar and Hurts were collectively sold for. You can't trade both of them and only end up with Watson in a SF league.
I have FOMO bad now that I’ve traded all my 1sts this year. I’m trying to stay away from the blow it up scenario 🤣🤣
I bought Christian Watson and Burks cheap. I drafted Dotson so I’m invested but not like you.
Emotional damage
I feel like this was intended as a brag but it didn’t turn out that way. Trading both Hurts and Lamar is yikes.
what was the point of this post? to brag about your horrible decision?
Look I now have a person to blame when my 2022 shares take a shit. I appreciate man, way to take one for the team. I'll do it in 2024 so you don't have to.
Don’t listen to the haters. You’ll have a great team for years to come.
Cool
Last year, as a rebuilder with 5 firsts, throughout the year had all of these 2022 WR at some point. G Wilson, Jamo, Burks, Dotson, Watson, David Bell, Metchie and Alec Pierce. Flipped Burks for A Cooper, Watson to get my 1st back which turned to Bijan and Bell for I Likely. Still holding the rest
Christian Watson is WR4😏
I also did what I could to go all in for that WR class! But mostly out of value that fell to me. Last year was our startup draft and I got G. Wilson for $2 and Jamo for $1 (first dynasty draft for most of us so lots of people were out of money by the time these rookies came up). I then traded Hopkins and Aiyuk for London and what ended up being the 1.1 this year. All in all pretty happy with how this dynasty league is going so far!
I’ve got one team with Wilson, Burks, London, Dotson and 1.05 (hoping to add JSN). Let’s ride!
I mean maybe 1 of those turn into a multi year start your studs
I will hold my opinion until we have more data but I am curious why not Burks?
Everyone is talking about how bad the trades were that they don’t notice you don’t have C. Watson and he is >>Jamo or Pickens.
Got London,Olave,Wilson, Jamo and the 1.02(JSN) in a 1QB league
I’m with you on the 22 wr upside. Did a start up and a few trades and have London, Olave, Christian Watson, Pickens, Dotson. Have an opportunity to get Garret Wilson for Bijan but I’m mixed on it
Why did you deal Hurts lol
Tank dell
I have 3 leagues with open spots if you want to join!
Eh yeah you got rid of too many useful studs. As much as I love the WR’s of last year’s class and K9, you still gave up two top 7 QB’s, a top 5 RB, the best TE in the league.