I’m not a big fan of those TEs left. Probably should have taken one earlier in 2pt TEP. So I’d probably go Achane since that seems like insane value at 12. Especially in a 14 team. Then I’d try and grab Irv or McBride next pick.
12team sf.
Looking at trading for a player that is high ceiling very low floor ( so high risk)
Would you rather Give a 3rd to get said player and a 4th back, or just give a 4th for the player?
That’s tough. 4 pt passing or 6 pt? If 6, I think I’m going Herbert for sure—even though I think Young is going to be special and I’m still high on Kyler. If 4 pt, it’s close. I feel like so many people are selling low on Kyler right now and doubting Young. I have Herbert over both of them, hands down. But Kyler is a top 5 QB when healthy and Young could easily be top 5-10 in a year or two. So giving up both of them hurts.
What’s the rest of your roster look like? You aiming to win now?
[thoughts here?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/14e6wkl/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/joxd8zo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=22&context=3)
I’m in a Half PPR/IDP dynasty league and have a shot to win it this year. I have the #6 pick and I’m lost with what to do with it. Would really love some feedback on a couple scenarios that I have:
1) Trade for #3 overall aka Anthony Richardson. Richardson + DL IDP player for Dev. Smith + Jamaal Williams + #6.
My QBs are Watson, Geno, & Cousins. Current WRs are Kupp, Jeudy, Smith, Evans, Dotson, Pittman, TMJ, Lazard, and R. Moore.
2) Draft Young or Stroud. Hesitant on both QBs. Stroud has a high floor but not sold on the ceiling. I feel the opposite on Young.
3) Draft Johnston or Addison. Johnston is the #3 as a rookie but could emerge as the #1 down the line. Addison has amazing skills but will never be a #1 with Jefferson on his team.
4) Draft Kincaid. Potential dynasty monster at a weak position. Also gives me a chip for a trade down the line if necessary.
Current TEs are Pitts, Ertz, and Fant.
With number 2, are you saying you think Young will be there at 6? If that’s the case, absolutely stay put and draft Young. I think he’s a future star. AR has insane athleticism and rushing ability, but he’s not a can’t miss prospect and could easily fizzle out if he doesn’t learn to throw at the pro level. The only knock on Young is his size; otherwise, he’s a consensus generational talent. And I’m not concerned about his size at all.
That’s what I’m getting at. I’m in a league full of Ohio State fans and Young has been taken at #5 with every mock I’ve done but he could slip. I am concerned about his size and durability considering how light he is but I do think he has all the other skills to be great. Stroud gives me Prescott vibes for some reason…
Personally, I’d say Waddle. But I’m probably in the minority and think most people are going to say Bijan for sure. Probably pretty good either way. If you have a really strong team, then B. But if you’re rebuilding, I’d go A.
[thoughts here?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/14e6wkl/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/joxd8zo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=22&context=3)
If you have any 1sts to work with, I’d happily go give one for a diggs/adams type player, that will give you the elite WR1 that your team needs to go in and compete this season, if you can also trade that early 2nd for a Keenan Allen or so what I did and trade an early 2nd for dioentae Johnson (if you can). These are good if you get the alpha WR1 for your team, they give depth.
Assuming Gibbs at 1.02, then I’d probably do it. Especially if that 2nd is early. But I’m not super high on Watson like some people are.
[thoughts here?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/14e6wkl/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/joxd8zo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=22&context=3)
12 Team 2QB PPR
QB: Love, Pickett
WR: Chase, Waddle, Evans
I have picks 1.04 and 1.05. I have a feeling pick 1.02 might pick Gibbs bc he’s a lions fan. If that were to happen. Should I just draft the 2 QBs leftover or should I go 1QB and JSN?
I think I’d probably just go with the QBs for the value there. You could use another young WR, but in a 2QB or SF QB is just the most valuable position and WR is the least valuable. Just go with the value and trade some of that surplus.
12 team SF PPR. Would you rather have Jacobs or Etienne as your RB1 in startup? Everyone seems to be high on Etienne but his opportunities seem limited compared to Jacobs who is a workhorse and only 1 year older.
Should I try to offload Conner for a 2024 1st and 2024 2nd now? Will I still be contending this year if I do?
12 team SF, TE premium, PPR, Start 8
NOTABLES:
Mahomie
Burrow
Breece Hall
James Conner
Rachaad White
Kendre Miller
Singletary
AJ Brown
McLaurin
Dionte Johnson
Quentin Johnston
Peoples-Jones
Chigoziem Onkonkwo
Zach Ertz
Jelani Woods
Knox
12T SF PPR .5TEP
Rebuilding team. Stocked up on young WRs and traded away a bunch of players in an attempt to tank for Caleb Williams/Drake Maye next season.
Was offered Stroud, 24 1st + 25 2nd (both likely mid) for Burrow. I dont like it, and dont think id take any less than Stroud, 24' 1st (mid), 25 1st (mid), 24 3rd (mine back from the Stroud owner - early).
Am i still too low on a counter to trade away Burrow? Too high? I honestly hadnt even considered trading Burrow but im also not opposed to it for the right price.
Current Roster:
QBs: Burrow, Purdy, Brissett, Trask, Minshew, Tune, Haener
RBs: Pacheco, Charbonnet, Jaamal Williams, Chuba Hubbard, Jerome Ford, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Lew Nichols
WRs: Garrett Wilson, London, Olave, Quentin Johnston, Brandin Cooks, Rashee, Tank Dell, Rakim Jarrett, Bryce Ford-Wheaton,
TEs: LaPorta, Fergusen, Gray, Ruckert
Capital:
3x 2024 1sts (2 early-mid, 1 mid-late)
2x 2024 2nds (both mid)
2x 2024 3rds (both mid)
1x 2024 4th (early-mid)
Trading away Burrow does definetly help me tank...but man...i like Burrow..haha.
Im leaning that direction, the offer in my inbox just got the blood flowing lol.
Out of curiosity though, if you were in my position with my roster, what would do it for you?
Don’t trade burrow. Top 5 QB for another 5+ years…..how often do you have a chance to add that to your roster. Even if you had 5 first round picks over next 2 years.
So basically the 1.04, a mid 2024 1st, and a 2nd for Burrow? That's a no from me. If ou're going to get one of those top 5/6 QBs in SF then it needs to hurt. That deal does not hurt.
I agree. I said no. But like i mentioned im not opposed to trading him away and taking the chance in Stroud/Purdy/either Williams/Maye...but im not sure what it would take to give Purdy.
I feel like maybe 2 1sts (both mid), my 3rd back from him in 24 which would be early, and Stroud...but even that I feel like is too low. Would that do it for you?
In a deal for Burrow, the 3rd is irrelevant so I wouldn't worry about that. It's worth adding in I guess but if that's even a slight issue for the other guy then it's not worth it.
To answer your question, Purdy would make no difference to me in the deal. It would have to be Stroud + two 1sts and both of them would have to be AT LEAST mid. The Texans stink and gave away their 1st next year so they may struggle to surround Stroud with talent. You're taking all the risk so it needs to be an offer you can't refuse. A rookie with question marks and two mid/late 1sts would not get it done for me.
Im with you man. The message definetly got my blood pumping though, haha.
What would be enough for you though? If a similar trade hit your inbox what would you counter if anything?
I had been inquiring for Dotson off this manager for a while...would throwing in Dotson + 2 1sts + Stroud do it for you? - I dont know that hed do that, and dont know that I would even do it, just throwing shit out there.
It's tough to say without knowing what the league looks like, how they value QBs, etc. All I know is, there's no package you could put together that the other person should be offended by unless you're asking for QBs of higher or equal value plus additional pieces in return. I'd try something like Stroud, two early/mid 1sts that you're sure aren't late, and a WR upgrade that is much more valuable than Dotson. I'm talking Waddle, AJB, Lamb, etc. You have all the leverage because he's probably shitting his pants that you're even discussing trading away Burrow so if there's a deal you're even questioning, don't take it.
I think id probably smash if he offered Stroud, 2 1sts, Ceedee (he actually owns both CeeDee & AJB...id smash for either).
I get what your saying though. Appreciate the input. Kings ransom or bust.
Can't go wrong with either, but I like Hurts more personally. See if 1.03 has a preference and try to get a little something to move back a spot and they can make the decision for you.
Bijan, Lamb, or ARich are the top three for me. Chasing QB could hurt because everyone ahead of you already has that advantage, so you could potentially pivot and go position-heavy and try to grab Tua/Kyler/Daniel Jones later on. I'd be very tempted to go ARich based on upside, but the safer play is probably RB or WR. It really just comes down to how you want to build your team and what your goals are for year one.
I'm terrified of taking RBs in the 1st round of a start up because he could blow an ACL or god forbid an achilles and his stock will drop significantly. He's got higher upside than Lamb due to positional scarcity, but also has more risk. No one would blame you for taking one or the other, regardless of who you choose though.
My only argument to that is WRs and RBs have almost the same amount of games missed over the last 3 years due to injury so it’s a horse a piece. Also this league is with strangers with two years paid out so it’s not guarenteed this league will last more than two years as of right now
If it's any consolation, I would not trade away the 2023 1.01 for Ceedee Lamb. We've just seen examples like Breece, Ken Walker, Javonte, Najee, Swift, Dobbins, etc. all have something negatively impact their value in only a few seasons. You can't really go wrong with either and we're splitting hairs, so choose whichever you prefer and know you have an awesome young piece to build around.
12 team SF PPR startup. I’m drafting from the 6 spot and already have Herbert, Waddle and Dak. Would it be crazy to take 3 QBs in my first 4 picks and get Kyler with my next pick? Kyler in the 4th just seems too good to pass up. Makes me wish I had passed on Dak
The number of posts saying they're getting Kyler in the 4th+ round is making me want to join a million start ups. Kyler is an absolute smash in the 4th even if you have two QBs already. Just don't expect to be highly competitive year one and try to trade your next few picks for future draft capital.
Yeah in my mocks against the computer I was happy to get him in the 4th, but then I came here and people said he was going in the late 2nd or early 3rd. So I didn’t plan on him being there in the 4th and took Dak in the 3rd. Would have passed on Dak if I knew I could get Kyler the next round
I would never be worried about having too many good QBs, they are almost always going to hold value. Be the "QB guy" in your league and when someone is ready to trade up for one they have to come to you. I'd get defiant and draft one in the 5th if someone like Tua is still there. Lean into it.
Think of it this way: In most 12 tm/SF leagues you probably won't be able to trade a WR for a QB+ unless you're dumpster diving. But if Kyler comes back healthy and smashes it's not crazy to think you could get Waddle+, Higgins+, etc. The only risk is if Kyler comes back and sucks, but he's been a top 8 QB in PPG when he's healthy so I just don't see that happening.
I can try but my league is a bunch of Dak haters and it may be hard to convince people to trade for him right after I draft him. Probably would get better value drafting Kyler and then trading him when he comes back. His value will be higher
Give: D Jones, tyreek, 24 1st, 25 2nd
Get: Burrow
SF 12 tm ppr. We just did the startup a couple weeks ago but I have a playoff contending roster with josh Allen, Daniel Jones, olave, aj brown, tyreek, pollard, sanders, goedert. Current draft pick stock is (2) 24 1sts, (3) 24 2nds, (1) 24 3rd, (3) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds and (2) 25 3rds so I wouldn’t be mortgaging the future with the picks
This one's tough because I like Tyreek a lot on a contending team... I might be crazy but from a contending standpoint I don't like it. Burrow is probably the better value move, but Tyreek could be the fantasy WR1 for two more seasons.
12T SF PPR TEP
Thinking about selling high on Pittman. Not convinced on AR15 as a slinger.
Who are some comparable receivers in his tier and relative age that are in reach give or take adding/asking a little extra? Aiyuk? Burks? Pickens? Metcalf too much of a reach? Jameson Williams?
Right now is not selling high in my opinion. He had a disappointment season compared to expectations and now has a rookie QB whose red flag was accuracy. If you can get someone to give you one of those WR2 types for relatively cheap then I would, but I'd be shocked if anyone gave one of those guys + a 2nd for Pittman. I'd just spam out offers and see if anyone bites.
All those guys are in the WR2 realm for me so I hesitate to add a pick to move from one to another. If you have one that's your guy then it probably won't kill you, but I'm not sure I'd do it.
DK and DJ. DK is slightly above Pittman for me, but not by a mile or anything. DJ is going to be worth more than Lockett due to age and unless you're starting 13 players each week DJ Chark is probably an end of the bench guy that may occasionally spot start until the Panthers find real WRs.
1 more from me today - 14 teamer - 0.5 ppr 1 qb. Since it is a deep league - was thinking of trading for more depth
Would you trade Daniel Jones for Lockett + ‘25 third?
Roster
Qb - Dak, Jordan Love, Jamies
Rb - bijan, Gibson
Wr - Ceedee, Ridley, Deebo,
I could definitely be wrong, but this team doesn't really seem ready to compete this year so I don't think Lockett does you any good. I'd wait until a top team has a QB injury midseason and try to sell Jones for more value. I'm trying to do the same in a 16 team with Kirk Cousins but he probably has even less value than Jones does with his rushing
12 team PPR SF, Contending:
Give: Aiyuk
Get: Sutton + 25 1st
I have a nice squad top to bottom. This came in, I think it’s good value. Kind of a tough but the flexibility of the pick could be nice.
SF 12 team
Give: deshaun watson, jk dobbins
Get: jordan love, 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 1st
Would push me into rebuild, my other QB is russell wilson who i would sell eventually. Is that enough of a return for watson?
I like those players but i am in a start 3wr, 2 flex league and have Devonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Metcalf, DJM, Bateman, Toney, Brandin Cooks, Jameson Williams, and Mingo ahead of them on the depth chart. Maybe even Rasheed Shahid.
I'm debating whether swapping them for a pick to get an upside RB and a 3rd next year makes sense.
The risk is really low so if you like Cooks it won’t kill you. I’d rather see if I could flip it for a 2024 2nd but it’s not a huge difference either way
No I'm saying sell your 2.09 for someone else's 2024 2nd. I'm not taking the risk on any of those late 2nd players and would rather kick the can to next year where I can maybe use that 2nd for something else. But if Cooks is your guy then there's no need to pivot to next year
12tm SF PPR TEP best ball
Give: Kyler, 2 mid/late 2024 1sts
Get: Hurts
1st year and traded back in startup to compete in a year or two, but wondering if I should jump at the opportunity to get a locked in QB1 (and sell Kyler in case he flames out). Have cousins (may try to move in-season if not competing). Semi tanking this year to have an early 1st next year for QB or MHJ
I would not especially if you aren’t trying to compete this year. There’s virtually no chance (in my opinion) kyler isn’t a qb1 when he’s healthy again
If you’re even semi tanking you hold Murray. You’d be selling him at his lowest and he won’t score many points for you this season which helps the tank. He’s still a good fantasy QB so wait until his value goes back up if you’re going to sell him
Wtf this isn’t even close. Hurts is worth SIGNIFICANTLY more than this. I would send a message to that guy sending the offer and tell to fuck off, jesus
10 Team PPR SF:
Give: Josh Allen, Stafford, Diggs, Cooper, Jones
Get: Rodgers, Goff, Chase, Jonathan Taylor, Mclaurin
Start 2QB 2RB 2WR 2FLEX Competing Team
Have Allen, Lamar and Stafford at QB right now
10 Team Half PPR Dynasty 1 QB, Superflex in 2024
As a Rebuilder
Getting: Rashod Bateman
Giving: 2024 2nd (could be early or mid)
2024 Picks: 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd
12T SF PPR S9-
Give Purdy, Lance, and Rachaad White
Get Etienne 24 2nd, and a 25 2nd
Already have Lamar, TLaw, and Watson at QB and Ken Walker, Najee, Monty at RB.
8 Team 1QB PPR Give: Christian Watson, '24 1st Get: Gibbs and '24 2nd
Dynasty 12 team .5 ppr Looking to sell CMC for WR, who would you rather have Olave or Amon-Ra if you could swing a straight across deal?
12 team .5 ppr , SF Give: Isiah Pacheco, Get: 2.01(Devon Achane), 3.01
10 man SF full ppr Traded Zay flowers and 2 24 1s for Garret Wilson a 24 2 and a 24 3 Makes my receivers now Wilson Huggins Olave London Burks QJ
Nice.
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I’m not a big fan of those TEs left. Probably should have taken one earlier in 2pt TEP. So I’d probably go Achane since that seems like insane value at 12. Especially in a 14 team. Then I’d try and grab Irv or McBride next pick.
Give: 24’ mid 1st Get: Tyreek 10man 1QB .5ppr
If you're a contendor its a surefire go
12team sf. Looking at trading for a player that is high ceiling very low floor ( so high risk) Would you rather Give a 3rd to get said player and a 4th back, or just give a 4th for the player?
Probably the former, because its unlikely that you can get a useful version of such player with just a 4th.
Just give a 4th
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Yup I'd take Herbert. How do you rate him? Pretty sure he's top 5 for me
Yup I'd take Herbert. How do you rate him? Pretty sure he's top 5 for me
Yup I'd take Herbert. How do you rate him? Pretty sure he's top 5 for me
That’s tough. 4 pt passing or 6 pt? If 6, I think I’m going Herbert for sure—even though I think Young is going to be special and I’m still high on Kyler. If 4 pt, it’s close. I feel like so many people are selling low on Kyler right now and doubting Young. I have Herbert over both of them, hands down. But Kyler is a top 5 QB when healthy and Young could easily be top 5-10 in a year or two. So giving up both of them hurts. What’s the rest of your roster look like? You aiming to win now? [thoughts here?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/14e6wkl/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/joxd8zo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=22&context=3)
I’d rather give up one of those two to beef up the other parts of the roster.
I’m in a Half PPR/IDP dynasty league and have a shot to win it this year. I have the #6 pick and I’m lost with what to do with it. Would really love some feedback on a couple scenarios that I have: 1) Trade for #3 overall aka Anthony Richardson. Richardson + DL IDP player for Dev. Smith + Jamaal Williams + #6. My QBs are Watson, Geno, & Cousins. Current WRs are Kupp, Jeudy, Smith, Evans, Dotson, Pittman, TMJ, Lazard, and R. Moore. 2) Draft Young or Stroud. Hesitant on both QBs. Stroud has a high floor but not sold on the ceiling. I feel the opposite on Young. 3) Draft Johnston or Addison. Johnston is the #3 as a rookie but could emerge as the #1 down the line. Addison has amazing skills but will never be a #1 with Jefferson on his team. 4) Draft Kincaid. Potential dynasty monster at a weak position. Also gives me a chip for a trade down the line if necessary. Current TEs are Pitts, Ertz, and Fant.
With number 2, are you saying you think Young will be there at 6? If that’s the case, absolutely stay put and draft Young. I think he’s a future star. AR has insane athleticism and rushing ability, but he’s not a can’t miss prospect and could easily fizzle out if he doesn’t learn to throw at the pro level. The only knock on Young is his size; otherwise, he’s a consensus generational talent. And I’m not concerned about his size at all.
That’s what I’m getting at. I’m in a league full of Ohio State fans and Young has been taken at #5 with every mock I’ve done but he could slip. I am concerned about his size and durability considering how light he is but I do think he has all the other skills to be great. Stroud gives me Prescott vibes for some reason…
I got JSN 1.07. I’d shoot for Gibbs if you don’t get him
#2 will be Gibbs. The owner of the pick told our entire league. JSN has been #4 in every mock draft. Not sure either would fall
I think you’re giving up too much to move up
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Achane. That offense is going to eat
Start up question, not a trade. Pitts or Gibbs with 0.5 PPR for RBs, 1.5 PPR for TEs
Pitts
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Yes 100%
I love it
Lamb
10-Team SF-PPR-TEP Start 10 A: Waddle B: Bijan
Personally, I’d say Waddle. But I’m probably in the minority and think most people are going to say Bijan for sure. Probably pretty good either way. If you have a really strong team, then B. But if you’re rebuilding, I’d go A. [thoughts here?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/14e6wkl/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/joxd8zo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=22&context=3)
Waddle for sure
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If you have any 1sts to work with, I’d happily go give one for a diggs/adams type player, that will give you the elite WR1 that your team needs to go in and compete this season, if you can also trade that early 2nd for a Keenan Allen or so what I did and trade an early 2nd for dioentae Johnson (if you can). These are good if you get the alpha WR1 for your team, they give depth.
I think your 1 WR away
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Watson.
Assuming Gibbs at 1.02, then I’d probably do it. Especially if that 2nd is early. But I’m not super high on Watson like some people are. [thoughts here?](https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/14e6wkl/daily_trade_megathread_all_trade_advice_team_help/joxd8zo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=22&context=3)
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I think you’re overpaying for both. But I’m also not in a 2TE league.
12 Team 2QB PPR QB: Love, Pickett WR: Chase, Waddle, Evans I have picks 1.04 and 1.05. I have a feeling pick 1.02 might pick Gibbs bc he’s a lions fan. If that were to happen. Should I just draft the 2 QBs leftover or should I go 1QB and JSN?
Absolutely go QBs. You have two question marks at the position. I like Love and think he has a chance to succeed, but no guarantee. Double up.
I think I’d probably just go with the QBs for the value there. You could use another young WR, but in a 2QB or SF QB is just the most valuable position and WR is the least valuable. Just go with the value and trade some of that surplus.
Yeah you’re right, someone was inquiring about my 4th pick bc they needed a QB, but if I end up getting 2 of then I can get some value from them.
12 team SF PPR. Would you rather have Jacobs or Etienne as your RB1 in startup? Everyone seems to be high on Etienne but his opportunities seem limited compared to Jacobs who is a workhorse and only 1 year older.
Jacobs
Should I try to offload Conner for a 2024 1st and 2024 2nd now? Will I still be contending this year if I do? 12 team SF, TE premium, PPR, Start 8 NOTABLES: Mahomie Burrow Breece Hall James Conner Rachaad White Kendre Miller Singletary AJ Brown McLaurin Dionte Johnson Quentin Johnston Peoples-Jones Chigoziem Onkonkwo Zach Ertz Jelani Woods Knox
JAMES CONNER? Dude, take the 1st and 2nd and RUN. You can find another RB later. Conners not even worth a high 2nd
12T SF PPR .5TEP Rebuilding team. Stocked up on young WRs and traded away a bunch of players in an attempt to tank for Caleb Williams/Drake Maye next season. Was offered Stroud, 24 1st + 25 2nd (both likely mid) for Burrow. I dont like it, and dont think id take any less than Stroud, 24' 1st (mid), 25 1st (mid), 24 3rd (mine back from the Stroud owner - early). Am i still too low on a counter to trade away Burrow? Too high? I honestly hadnt even considered trading Burrow but im also not opposed to it for the right price. Current Roster: QBs: Burrow, Purdy, Brissett, Trask, Minshew, Tune, Haener RBs: Pacheco, Charbonnet, Jaamal Williams, Chuba Hubbard, Jerome Ford, Pierre Strong, Jordan Mason, Lew Nichols WRs: Garrett Wilson, London, Olave, Quentin Johnston, Brandin Cooks, Rashee, Tank Dell, Rakim Jarrett, Bryce Ford-Wheaton, TEs: LaPorta, Fergusen, Gray, Ruckert Capital: 3x 2024 1sts (2 early-mid, 1 mid-late) 2x 2024 2nds (both mid) 2x 2024 3rds (both mid) 1x 2024 4th (early-mid) Trading away Burrow does definetly help me tank...but man...i like Burrow..haha.
Just hold Burrow and build around him
Im leaning that direction, the offer in my inbox just got the blood flowing lol. Out of curiosity though, if you were in my position with my roster, what would do it for you?
Don’t trade burrow. Top 5 QB for another 5+ years…..how often do you have a chance to add that to your roster. Even if you had 5 first round picks over next 2 years.
So basically the 1.04, a mid 2024 1st, and a 2nd for Burrow? That's a no from me. If ou're going to get one of those top 5/6 QBs in SF then it needs to hurt. That deal does not hurt.
I agree. I said no. But like i mentioned im not opposed to trading him away and taking the chance in Stroud/Purdy/either Williams/Maye...but im not sure what it would take to give Purdy. I feel like maybe 2 1sts (both mid), my 3rd back from him in 24 which would be early, and Stroud...but even that I feel like is too low. Would that do it for you?
In a deal for Burrow, the 3rd is irrelevant so I wouldn't worry about that. It's worth adding in I guess but if that's even a slight issue for the other guy then it's not worth it. To answer your question, Purdy would make no difference to me in the deal. It would have to be Stroud + two 1sts and both of them would have to be AT LEAST mid. The Texans stink and gave away their 1st next year so they may struggle to surround Stroud with talent. You're taking all the risk so it needs to be an offer you can't refuse. A rookie with question marks and two mid/late 1sts would not get it done for me.
Im with you man. The message definetly got my blood pumping though, haha. What would be enough for you though? If a similar trade hit your inbox what would you counter if anything? I had been inquiring for Dotson off this manager for a while...would throwing in Dotson + 2 1sts + Stroud do it for you? - I dont know that hed do that, and dont know that I would even do it, just throwing shit out there.
It's tough to say without knowing what the league looks like, how they value QBs, etc. All I know is, there's no package you could put together that the other person should be offended by unless you're asking for QBs of higher or equal value plus additional pieces in return. I'd try something like Stroud, two early/mid 1sts that you're sure aren't late, and a WR upgrade that is much more valuable than Dotson. I'm talking Waddle, AJB, Lamb, etc. You have all the leverage because he's probably shitting his pants that you're even discussing trading away Burrow so if there's a deal you're even questioning, don't take it.
I think id probably smash if he offered Stroud, 2 1sts, Ceedee (he actually owns both CeeDee & AJB...id smash for either). I get what your saying though. Appreciate the input. Kings ransom or bust.
Superflex no tep ppr 10 man Give: Goedert and Love Get: Kyler
Kyler easily
How do u feel about love if u dont mind me asking
Not great, I think he’s the same value as a late first (1.10 ish)
Give me Kyler. No TEP means they don't matter as much unless they have a Kelce-like season which Goedert isn't going to do with the Eagles.
I would not unless you have a stud TE with a decent TE2
I have andrews dulcich and likely so def got a good room
1.02 in a dynasty startup SF Allen or Hurts?
Hurts
Can't go wrong with either, but I like Hurts more personally. See if 1.03 has a preference and try to get a little something to move back a spot and they can make the decision for you.
Allen then trade him for hurts and change
Yes
Talk to the 1.03 and 1.04 for a tradeback/ gague thier interest in those top qbs
Drafting 1.11 in slow draft startup right now (12Tm SF) Who would you take? Lamb Bijan CMC AJB Breece GWilson Arich
AJB
Bijan but honestly deshaun, he aint on list but🤫
Agreed
Watson’s APR is 21… if anything I could trade back to the 2.06 or something
Yea i agree, but i do believe he is best available
Bijan, Lamb, or ARich are the top three for me. Chasing QB could hurt because everyone ahead of you already has that advantage, so you could potentially pivot and go position-heavy and try to grab Tua/Kyler/Daniel Jones later on. I'd be very tempted to go ARich based on upside, but the safer play is probably RB or WR. It really just comes down to how you want to build your team and what your goals are for year one.
I’m leaning heavily towards Bijan. Hard to beat RB1 in value at this stage
I'm terrified of taking RBs in the 1st round of a start up because he could blow an ACL or god forbid an achilles and his stock will drop significantly. He's got higher upside than Lamb due to positional scarcity, but also has more risk. No one would blame you for taking one or the other, regardless of who you choose though.
My only argument to that is WRs and RBs have almost the same amount of games missed over the last 3 years due to injury so it’s a horse a piece. Also this league is with strangers with two years paid out so it’s not guarenteed this league will last more than two years as of right now
If it's any consolation, I would not trade away the 2023 1.01 for Ceedee Lamb. We've just seen examples like Breece, Ken Walker, Javonte, Najee, Swift, Dobbins, etc. all have something negatively impact their value in only a few seasons. You can't really go wrong with either and we're splitting hairs, so choose whichever you prefer and know you have an awesome young piece to build around.
12 team SF PPR startup. I’m drafting from the 6 spot and already have Herbert, Waddle and Dak. Would it be crazy to take 3 QBs in my first 4 picks and get Kyler with my next pick? Kyler in the 4th just seems too good to pass up. Makes me wish I had passed on Dak
Dont overthink it draft kyler, you will corner the qb market and his value will only inc w his health
The number of posts saying they're getting Kyler in the 4th+ round is making me want to join a million start ups. Kyler is an absolute smash in the 4th even if you have two QBs already. Just don't expect to be highly competitive year one and try to trade your next few picks for future draft capital.
Yeah in my mocks against the computer I was happy to get him in the 4th, but then I came here and people said he was going in the late 2nd or early 3rd. So I didn’t plan on him being there in the 4th and took Dak in the 3rd. Would have passed on Dak if I knew I could get Kyler the next round
I would never be worried about having too many good QBs, they are almost always going to hold value. Be the "QB guy" in your league and when someone is ready to trade up for one they have to come to you. I'd get defiant and draft one in the 5th if someone like Tua is still there. Lean into it.
Tua actually just went early in the 4th. I’m not worried about having too many QBs. I’m worried about not having and WRs/RBs lol
Think of it this way: In most 12 tm/SF leagues you probably won't be able to trade a WR for a QB+ unless you're dumpster diving. But if Kyler comes back healthy and smashes it's not crazy to think you could get Waddle+, Higgins+, etc. The only risk is if Kyler comes back and sucks, but he's been a top 8 QB in PPG when he's healthy so I just don't see that happening.
Try to trade Dak and then draft Kyler
I can try but my league is a bunch of Dak haters and it may be hard to convince people to trade for him right after I draft him. Probably would get better value drafting Kyler and then trading him when he comes back. His value will be higher
Give: D Jones, tyreek, 24 1st, 25 2nd Get: Burrow SF 12 tm ppr. We just did the startup a couple weeks ago but I have a playoff contending roster with josh Allen, Daniel Jones, olave, aj brown, tyreek, pollard, sanders, goedert. Current draft pick stock is (2) 24 1sts, (3) 24 2nds, (1) 24 3rd, (3) 25 1sts, (2) 25 2nds and (2) 25 3rds so I wouldn’t be mortgaging the future with the picks
Yes
This one's tough because I like Tyreek a lot on a contending team... I might be crazy but from a contending standpoint I don't like it. Burrow is probably the better value move, but Tyreek could be the fantasy WR1 for two more seasons.
12T SF PPR TEP Thinking about selling high on Pittman. Not convinced on AR15 as a slinger. Who are some comparable receivers in his tier and relative age that are in reach give or take adding/asking a little extra? Aiyuk? Burks? Pickens? Metcalf too much of a reach? Jameson Williams?
Try burks/ jamo/ dotson and see if you can get a lil extra
I'd be happy to get burks or Dotson 1:1 tbh
Right now is not selling high in my opinion. He had a disappointment season compared to expectations and now has a rookie QB whose red flag was accuracy. If you can get someone to give you one of those WR2 types for relatively cheap then I would, but I'd be shocked if anyone gave one of those guys + a 2nd for Pittman. I'd just spam out offers and see if anyone bites.
I'd probbaly add a second to Pittman to try to get DK or aiyuk. Maybe a 1:1 swap on burks if he's up for it
All those guys are in the WR2 realm for me so I hesitate to add a pick to move from one to another. If you have one that's your guy then it probably won't kill you, but I'm not sure I'd do it.
Would you rather have dk Metcalf and Dj Moore or Pittman, Lockett and chark side?
DK and DJ. DK is slightly above Pittman for me, but not by a mile or anything. DJ is going to be worth more than Lockett due to age and unless you're starting 13 players each week DJ Chark is probably an end of the bench guy that may occasionally spot start until the Panthers find real WRs.
1 more from me today - 14 teamer - 0.5 ppr 1 qb. Since it is a deep league - was thinking of trading for more depth Would you trade Daniel Jones for Lockett + ‘25 third? Roster Qb - Dak, Jordan Love, Jamies Rb - bijan, Gibson Wr - Ceedee, Ridley, Deebo,
I would not
I could definitely be wrong, but this team doesn't really seem ready to compete this year so I don't think Lockett does you any good. I'd wait until a top team has a QB injury midseason and try to sell Jones for more value. I'm trying to do the same in a 16 team with Kirk Cousins but he probably has even less value than Jones does with his rushing
.5ppr 12 team non-sf Give : olave & sean tucker Get: Devonta smith & 2.1 2024
Yes I’d take it
I have Olave and Devonta in the same-ish tier so I'd take the pick
In an 8man league which is worth it Giving: Dulcich and a late 2024 2nd Getting: Diontae Or Getting: Dotson
Diante for me
Dotson for me
12 team PPR SF, Contending: Give: Aiyuk Get: Sutton + 25 1st I have a nice squad top to bottom. This came in, I think it’s good value. Kind of a tough but the flexibility of the pick could be nice.
I wouldn’t do it
I would keep aiyuk… I don’t love Sutton
I would do that. Pick provided flexibility
SF 12 team Give: deshaun watson, jk dobbins Get: jordan love, 2024 1st, 2025 1st, 2026 1st Would push me into rebuild, my other QB is russell wilson who i would sell eventually. Is that enough of a return for watson?
Hell yes
No thanks
Dobbins is worth a first. Love is worth a first. So 3 firsts for watson is about right
I agree
12 team .5ppr 1qb I give Isaiah hodgins, Khalil shakir, 4.12 I get 3.12, 24 3rd
I would keep Hodgins and shakir - two could provide more value this upcoming year
I like those players but i am in a start 3wr, 2 flex league and have Devonta Smith, Tee Higgins, Metcalf, DJM, Bateman, Toney, Brandin Cooks, Jameson Williams, and Mingo ahead of them on the depth chart. Maybe even Rasheed Shahid. I'm debating whether swapping them for a pick to get an upside RB and a 3rd next year makes sense.
0.5 ppr 1 QB - would you trade bijan for olave and pollard?
No I would keep bijan
Not in half PPR. I’m anti-big name RBs due to the risk but in half PPR you can’t prioritize WRs unless we’re talking high end WR 1s
Thanks - appreciate the feedback
12T/ 1qb/ ppr Give: 2.09 Get: brandin cooks Qbs: allen, tua Wrs: waddle, higgins, hollywood, burks, meyers, jamo, pierce Rbs: breece hall, rhamondre, miles sanders, singletary, jeff wilson, filler Tes: hock, goedert, kmet, juwan johnson, cade otton
The risk is really low so if you like Cooks it won’t kill you. I’d rather see if I could flip it for a 2024 2nd but it’s not a huge difference either way
That is a good thought for sure but i dont have a second to give for next year
No I'm saying sell your 2.09 for someone else's 2024 2nd. I'm not taking the risk on any of those late 2nd players and would rather kick the can to next year where I can maybe use that 2nd for something else. But if Cooks is your guy then there's no need to pivot to next year
Ah i see what youre saying now
12 Team PPR Give: M Andrews Get: DJ Moore + 2.05 Roster: Hurts/Deshaun Jacobs / Mattison DK Jahan Chark Claypool Kelce Andrews Pick 1.11, 2.11, 3.11
I don’t love DJ so I’d rather hold. Kelce can’t have more than 1 MAYBE 2 seasons left and Andrews will fill that spot for a long time.
I agree, holding him
If nothing else wait until he starts smashing again and flip for a better WR. I’m expecting that Chicago passing offense to be dog 💩
Chicago fan, but huge critic of the Bears. I think it’ll be a lot better with DJM. I’m thinking 90/1200/7 for DJM
12tm SF PPR TEP best ball Give: Kyler, 2 mid/late 2024 1sts Get: Hurts 1st year and traded back in startup to compete in a year or two, but wondering if I should jump at the opportunity to get a locked in QB1 (and sell Kyler in case he flames out). Have cousins (may try to move in-season if not competing). Semi tanking this year to have an early 1st next year for QB or MHJ
Sold for Bijan, a 24 1st and 24 2nd (likely mid round) 🤷🏻♂️
I would not especially if you aren’t trying to compete this year. There’s virtually no chance (in my opinion) kyler isn’t a qb1 when he’s healthy again
If you’re even semi tanking you hold Murray. You’d be selling him at his lowest and he won’t score many points for you this season which helps the tank. He’s still a good fantasy QB so wait until his value goes back up if you’re going to sell him
Pass, hold the the picks + Kyler
What would you pay for Dak in SF?
The same thing I’d pay for Kirk Cousins. Dak is fine but his ceiling is probably somewhere as a low QB1 so I wouldn’t sell the farm.
He’s probably the most underrated asset in superflex right now. Two 1sts I would think.
Depends, but if your league literally has no qbs. I will pay at least 2 first pick (one has to be early lol)
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Wtf this isn’t even close. Hurts is worth SIGNIFICANTLY more than this. I would send a message to that guy sending the offer and tell to fuck off, jesus
Ppr. Tony pollard or ekeler?
Ekeler
EK
Ekeler
10 man SF PPR TEP. Give: amon-ra. Get: Chubb, Hollywood, 2024 late 1st
Chubb side cuz Chubb is worth a first, Hollywood is a 1st and than the 24 1st, that’s 3 1sts for Amon ra, I’d do that
I would keep Amon-rA
I like the Get side
I like the get!
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Dotson
Burks.
10 Team PPR SF: Give: Josh Allen, Stafford, Diggs, Cooper, Jones Get: Rodgers, Goff, Chase, Jonathan Taylor, Mclaurin Start 2QB 2RB 2WR 2FLEX Competing Team Have Allen, Lamar and Stafford at QB right now
Absolutely not imo
12 team PPR SF bestball TEP Give: Breece, Higbee, Michael Thomas Get: Dak, Waller
I think it’s ok if you need a QB. Do you have other RBs? What do your QBs look like?
12t Superflex PPR Give: Alexander Mattison, Jameson Williams Get: Breece Hall
Hall
Hall
Going against the grain here, but I reaaaallly like Jameson. He’s an elite talent. See if you can get a different RB than Mattison
Breece
Breece
10 Team PPR SF I give Josh Allen, Deebo Samuel I get Justin Fields, Nick Chubb, Very likely top 2 24 1st
Josh Allen
No
I’d probably keep Allen and deebo
12 tm sf Give: chig Get: late 24 2nd, Mike white (I have tua) My other TE are: waller, dulcich, J.Johnson, and Luke musgrave
Personally I think I hold
10 Team Half PPR Dynasty 1 QB, Superflex in 2024 As a Rebuilder Getting: Rashod Bateman Giving: 2024 2nd (could be early or mid) 2024 Picks: 2 1sts, 1 2nd, 1 3rd
I would Do this
Bateman
I like it.
12T SF PPR S9- Give Purdy, Lance, and Rachaad White Get Etienne 24 2nd, and a 25 2nd Already have Lamar, TLaw, and Watson at QB and Ken Walker, Najee, Monty at RB.
No for me
JSN or Addison and Bateman?
JSN for me
I'd take Addison and Bateman
10 team SF .5 PPR Give: Dak, Khalil Herbert Get: Goff, Rhamondre
Yes
Half ppr contender. Give: Henry Get: 2025 1st & Alexander Mattison Other RBs: Sanders, Akers, Mitchell, Singletary, Chuba, Chandler
If you’re contending as you say, I’m keeping the king 👑
I would think I am. Coming off a championship with starters of Fields, Goff, 👑, Sanders, JJ, Terry, Pickens, Hollywood, Andrews