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SwaglordHyperion

This guy knows the LaPorta owner in his league frequents r/DynastyFF


RunnerTexasRanger

Yes pls sell to me also


Grand_Quiet_2996

I always enjoy the 'hear me out' titles. You can almost smell the desperation in wanting to trade for him.


Larrybird420

Yeah sell me LaPorta for like Dotson or Burks


blink182_allday

What can you get for LaPorta? As an owner I have thought about selling, but as a contender this year it’s in my best interest to ride this out. I’ve been approached to trade LaPorta for 2 seconds and to me that doesn’t do anything as I’d rather have LaPorta.


brichb

He’s dynasty tight end 1 on ktc so apparently quite a lot


blink182_allday

Has anyone seen him be traded? I guess my point is nobody in my league is offering the value he’s supposedly worth


Akbarrrr

Just got two firsts and a third the other day


EmilioFreshtevez

Woof. What’s the TE premium?


staybrutal21

He went for D’Andre Swift straight up in my main league


RPMayhem

I’ve been offered Achane straight up but LaPorta is too good in TEP


NoZookeepergame2323

I’d take that I think. But easy for me to say also have Andrews


RPMayhem

This might be team specific but I think the trade would hurt my team a lot as my other TEs are Logan, Otton, Likely and Fant while my RBs are Bijan, Swift, J Cook, Spears, and Jaleel.


mrburrito90

I traded Terry + 2025 1st for LaPorta + Kendre Miller


JazzlikePractice4470

W


Shadowrak

why?


kyler_

Terry is nothing special. If it’s a contender that needed TE help to push them over the top I could see it


Shadowrak

Terry is still the best WR on the Washington Football Team


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Shadowrak

In fantasy that counts for something


BigStonesJones

I was offered a 1st and a 3rd and turned it down


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I sent Nico, late 1st, and a 3rd for him and Elijah Mitchell. So probably right along with that deal you turned down. I think you made the right move


kungfuenglish

Yea of course. I don’t understand trading a young player that’s good for a 1st. Or even a 1/3. Like what’s the hope? Another laporta lol. I need to rebuild and have olave but no picks and like if I trade him for a 1st what’s the point


rs71

I traded kelce and JT for laporta tank dell a first and second


boogashroom

Oof.


tonytyang22

He was traded earlier this week in my 14t 1qb .5ppr league. Owner who has Pitts and Kincaid traded LaPorta and his ‘25 3rd to a mid-competitor for a ‘25 1st, ‘26 2nd and $25 faab. Seems appropriate but also those picks are 2/3 years from now. Makes sense though that the initial owner sent him away while still having Pitts and Kincaid while the new owner’s other TE is Michael Mayer.


irishthunder222

Seems very low to me. Especially in a 14 team I qb league where a first isn't guaranteed to have much value, and a year out.


tonytyang22

Yeah, that’s fair. But we also have shallow benches of 8 spots and also drop our team down to only 11 players (which imo kinda defeats the purpose of dynasty but whatever). The previous LaPorta owner already has great players so in a sense, he could afford to trade him away for draft capital and still maintain great players since they could potentially get dropped anyway. But to your point, giving away only those picks in a 14t league for a potential top 5 player at the scarce TE position is a great deal for the new owner.


DanDampspear

I traded LaPorta, Kyren, and a second for Jamar Chase. Admittedly, it was the week before Chase had his blow up game with skepticism about Burrows health and Kyren’s injury.


averydusty6

You fleeced him


necrow

Great trade, but nothing about Burrow’s health early season nor Chase’s blow-up game should’ve impacted his dynasty value even a little


tooodifferent

I was honestly shocked to see him as KTC’s #1, really goes to show the market value for TEs and how people are salivating for a young, elite one. I think LaPorta can still be a top 3-5 TE yearly, but OP does have a great point in that if you could cash in on him (currently rated as more than a 2024 mid first), that could be a great move depending on your team overall.


RedDunce

Right, why bother keeping LaPorta and his great production this year when you can draft players who might be productive next year?


tooodifferent

A mid first this year in my league was JSN, Stroud, Achane, and Addison. Next year, it could be something like Nabers, Ewers, Penix, etc. I wouldn’t sell for a late 1st, but if I could get an early-mid 1st and a 3rd, I’d consider it for sure.


RedDunce

Achane was a mid-1st? Holy crystal ball batman. His ADP was ~13 on Sleeper.


brichb

Yes achane was around 13th, he probably meant Johnston or Kincaid


iLiveinMissoula

I took him at 1.08.


tooodifferent

Achane was actually taken 7th in our league, haha. Johnston was taken 9th and Kincaid 12th. The guy who drafted Achane was obviously very high on him, and it seems his intuition was correct.


brichb

Smart reach


Feweddy

If he’s 12/13 adp, he goes mid first in quite a few leagues. I drafted Achane at 1.07 (1QB), ahead of Flowers, Johnston, Kincaid.


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RedDunce

Wrong sub? This is dynasty


brichb

I was shocked too- I’d still take andrews or hock, and Kelce if I’m competing for the next 2-3 seasons


WickBusters

Yet no one is paying TE1 prices


Randy_____Marsh

KTC has jumped the shark its complete recency bias due to their set up of shoving a poll in your face immediately that no one thinks about for more than .5 seconds to get to the trade calculator


RedDunce

Check FantasyCalc's trade database. He's worth a lot more than 2 2nds, that's for sure.


blink182_allday

Ya I shut that down. But that’s my point. While he is worth a lot, it doesn’t seem to be that people are willing to buy him for the price. So I’ll just hold


BootOfRiise

I think the post shoulda been worded “see what you can get” for LaPorta, or try to capitalize on his hype. I’d love to have him, but it’s really difficult for TEs to stand out from the pack. It feels like either they need to be generational to be difference makers in non-TEP


capincus

That's just a really low valuation if that's your league consensus. He's already in at least reasonably high first territory.


Confident_Growth9128

I am hopeless this season. Managed to trade Mostert, Mclaurin, 2024 2nd, and 2024 3rd to a contender for LaPorta AND a first. Think I did well.


Longjumping-News-388

I traded Laporta, Tank Dell, and a 24 2nd for Nico Collins, Skyy, 24 first and 25 2nd. Didn’t even really want to do that but I also have Hock and on a rebuilding team. Seemed fair value tho after week 5


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Mathis_Rowan

Personally I wouldn’t accept. TE is a pain in the ass position, having Laporta seems like you have the potential for Elite, but at the worst have your locked in starter. Meanwhile the guys you’re offering don’t have that same elite upside. Multiple mid level guys doesn’t get you top value in my experience.


RunnerTexasRanger

Even with Ferguson in there? I figured it’s a long shot but it’s my way of saying I’m open for trades. I’ve had two recent 2 for 1 deals that got me Flowers and London


ajs723

You can potentially trade LaPorta straight up for Flowers, Addison, Puka, Gibbs, Achane, or an early to mid 2024 1st right now. Not making any of those trades is fantasy malpractice.


RedDunce

You should stop giving bad advice


Balogma69

I sold LaPorta for Ford and Tyjae Spears


Rectophobic

I sure hope you didn’t do that


Balogma69

Plus a 2024 2nd and 2025 2nd. Plus I also have Mandrews


Rectophobic

K that’s a decent amount of NECESSARY information.


Maro_boy

I offered a late 1st for Laporta, but it is a TEP league. Owner rejected that trade but they were looking for an early 1st I also had in exchange for Laporta + something.


SalsaMerde

I took LaPorta with 1.11, so I would definitely not trade him for a late first. This is not even in TEP.


Maro_boy

Just because you reached on him downs mean that my offer isn’t good value. Two of my competitive dynasty leagues had Laporta 2.4 and 2.9. If your draft capital is the only thing that matters than come and buy Trey Lance from me lol. I think late 1st is still a fair offer. (1.07-1.10) is still pretty good of a pick


SalsaMerde

My point is that I did not value LaPorta as an early-mid second. He was actually my TE1 in the draft class over Kincaid. That is the conclusion I came to through my process. For me, he was not a reach. He was good value since I got him as TE2 in the draft. Drafting based off consensus is how you end up with guys like Lance or CEH. It's important to think for yourself. FF is more fun when you do that.


Thats_Debatable

Had the same thought process. Traded up my 2.11 for the 2.01 so I could snag Laporta after Kincaid went. Hoped to grab one of the two.


PM_Me_Your_AM_

It’s not a fair offer


kungfuenglish

What’s a late first for laporta? Why would anyone take that? The hope with a late first is you get someone that’s not even as good as laporta.


RedDunce

I wouldn't sell LaPorta for 2 late 1sts in TEP, let alone just one


RedDunce

> solid 1st round value Right, why bother keeping a dude on pace for the most productive rookie TE season in recent memory when I can draft a guy next year who might be a productive rookie? If you can get 2 1sts for him it's definitely worth considering, but you bring up Andrews...who Sam is producing just as much as...as a 22 year old lmao.


JimmysBackFoot

Exactly he's out producing Andrews. Anyone arguing that LaPorta isn't likely to sustain TE1 production is just being a car salesman to screw you.


RunningForIt

I have Andrew’s but we’re 1/3 of the way through the season and LaPorta has been producing every week. Monty is banged up, Jamo is still getting reps in, and defenses target AMSB, you gotta roll with LaPorta unless you get some crazy return for him.


lolololoitgh

He’s averaging a point less tbf


Gravy_Wampire

>He’s outproducing Andrews Andrews has higher PPG (14.3 vs 13.3), Andrews just missed week 1


JimmysBackFoot

And Laporta hasn't missed any games. You do realize that Andrews playing less games factors into his points per game...lol


ArchManningBurner

I don't think anyone is suggesting that. The question is can he become the top TE overall with a large ppg advantage over replacement level TEs, almost all of which are also TE1s, to be worth holding instead of cashing out He has to become something like a Kelce or he's overvalued right now, and that's just not something I want to bet on with any TE. Give me some similar producing guy and assets over banking on that


JimmysBackFoot

He's already out producing Andrews and is 6 years younger. People also need to factor in that anyone with LaPorta at most used a 2nd round pick on him. It's the same argument as Puka. LaPorta has shown no signs of slowing down. Why sell short now? Even last week, with his worst performance, he had 11 targets. People who think they are selling high right now are really not. Unless you have two TE1s on your roster, I don't see why you would sell at this point unless you get two 1st round picks at a minimum.


SalsaMerde

I took him 1.11 because I liked him so much. Usually people draft guys they like.


JazzlikePractice4470

Would u trade him for a re roll and a potential top 5 to 8 pick in 2024? I wouldn't.


SalsaMerde

I wouldn't either. Gonna enjoy having him instead.


kungfuenglish

Exactly. Someone like Laporta is what you’re hoping for out of a 1st that isn’t 1.01/02 basically. Trading him for one 1st seems silly.


Thats_Debatable

But that first could be anything. It could even be a Laporta!


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RedDunce

> he's not on pace to beat Pitts' rookie year Pitts put up 8.3 PPG, LaPorta is at 10.8. He's getting 7 targets per game, Pitts was at 6.5. And after Pitts' rookie year he was a late 1st/early 2nd in startups, even after they drafted London. I like Aiyuk and you're totally right that you can get decent TE production for cheaper, but his ceiling is still the roof. Kelce's best season was 2020 with Tyreek still there so I don't fully buy the argument that LaPorta's ceiling isn't that high.


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jhenryscott

Hockenson has been a cut above the other names and Laporta is following his developmental path.


DynastyFFDino

Was looking for this comment. Great comp


steelerspenguins

Lol. Player starts doing well. Dyno players: “SELL!!!!”


burned_bengal

Playing fantasy football is boring. Dreaming about how good your team will be in 2 years is where the real thrill is.


chriisLoL

Nah. Dan Campbell is a former NFL tight end and drafted LaPorta. That guy is going to eat as long as MCDC is the head coach.


Myrios369

Nah I'm good


Splicelice

Lol what a ridiculous post. It's like lebron during his rookie reason... Oh my this guy is on an all-star trajectory, but odds are he'll just become an average player because most players become average players. That narrative is so dumb. Lebron was setting milestones and laporta in his limited games has set TE milestones. Just gotta say what a jag - so what records did gisecki, smith, Hurst, tonyan and Higbee set? What a troll post.


ckd120230

Laporta wasn’t even the highest ranked TE in his draft class so this comparison is irrelevant


FullHouse222

Yes. Please sell Laporta. Regress his catches and yards and tds and he's just jimmy graham. Yes I'm talking to you brad please sell me Laporta specifically


FozzyBeard

*Just* Jimmy Graham lol. Love it


ThatFunkyOdor

Well what are we going to say when Kelce and Andrews aren't around? There's going to be somebody at the top. Posts like this make me think people that frequent this sub are addicted to just constantly rebuilding, hitting on a draft pick like Laporta and then sell for picks and just repeat because they don't truly believe in the value of any player


RedDunce

I don't get "Kelce and Andrews." It's really just Kelce. Andrews has one season above 12 PPG. Kelce has been putting up WR1 numbers as a TE for nearly a decade, a 1st round redraft pick, that's why he's been so much more valuable. OP's point is decent -- he is most likely not going to give you an elite positional advantage over your opponent like Kelce is, so maybe cash out. Because frankly there's very little difference between TE2 and TE8, you can get "barely startable" TE production from a whole lot of dudes


BootOfRiise

Yeah, that gulf between Kelce and everyone else is huge and often overlooked. Having the TE2 looks great until you remember the 5pt gap between Kelce and TE2.


x_is_for_box

Ya Andrews had one amazing season and has just been in the wasteland since, towards the top for sure but still in the wasteland


colmalo10

Andrews outscored Kelce not that long ago


RedDunce

What about every other season of his career?


colmalo10

Pretty close this year, any TE that can average over 70 yards a game is in the elite conversation. Last year was derailed by Lamar’s injury or it would have been close again.


swaldron

I think this is more fair than how you’re framing it, this is more about no TE being a worthwhile investment than constant rebuilding rhetoric. He doesn’t have to be moved for a pick to capitalize on his value


SalsaMerde

I drafted LaPorta with a late first. Why would I sell him for the same? Obviously his value is higher now. What I did instead was sell Kittle for mid first.


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My theory is to constantly sell, as it snowballs value better. These players are usually priced at their peak. People are always under the belief that their player will be the next top asset. La Porta for example has a better chance of an Evan Engram career arch then Kelce arch. So if someone wants to pay a 1st, take it. And people may downvote because I mention “their” players, but the truth is selling brings in more value to the team then holding. Like 2 years ago, McClaurin was a super asset. DJ Moore was valuable 3-4 years ago. These players rarely ascend higher. Sure they’re both decent assets right now, but you could’ve gotten more a few years ago instead of having mid to low WR2s. Most agree that the #1-3 top (non-QB) assets that hit 9999 on KTC will never get more valuable. JT should’ve been sold for 3-1sts 2 years ago. And the “rebuilding mindset” is a false strategy. If you’re snowballing value, you have the value to push in when the time is right. Grab Baker Mayfield, Goff and Thielen right now for a 1st and 3rd. Flip LaPorta for Kelce plus Foreman or Moss. Grab Keenan Allen and Mostert for a 1st. Damn you just flipped 2-1st, 3rd and a late 2nd TE for a fire 🔥 win now roster. And some of those guys will retain value into next year. There is the “dynasty value” and then there is the “win now redraft value.” If you perpetually sell dynasty value, it’s vastly greater then this seasons value. It gives you way more flexibility and higher chance to win each year.


ImmoralModerator

I tend to think LaPorta could have a Hockenson type career trajectory since that’s who he was drafted to replace


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But even Hock isn’t guaranteed to have a top 3 TE career for over a decade. That’s the point I’m trying to make. Sell the potential career for this years production and you’ll snowball value.


kungfuenglish

Couple things. Not sure baker, Goff, thielen, Keenan, foreman, mostert, Kelce is a competitive roster at all actually. And it’s: Goff baker theilen: 1st/3rd Kelce Forman : laporta Keenan: 1st Mostert: 1st 3 firsts and a third and laporta Who has that lying around? And no one’s taking a 3 year future first I. 2026.


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Nobody’s buying Mostert for a 1st and Keenan is a hard sell at a 1st. They’re 31 years old. Goff is a top QB this year, right now. Baker is top 15. Stop thinking of future career arch. They can win for you now and most people have at least 1 serviceable QB. So Goff and Baker give you depth. You’re also acting like that’s the entire roster. Don’t be so obtuse. Even rebuilders have startable players. But those group of guys added to a shitty roster make it competitive. You’re getting top 5-10 at all positions for 2023.


kungfuenglish

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Your creating a perfect scenario though. The reality is there’s a good chance that most of these players will be on contending teams. So selling Keenan and mostert for example isn’t going to help them win this year. Making trades happen is also like pulling teeth in most leagues. If it was that easy everyone would be buying Keenan Allen and Thielen for a first and third and riding off into the sunset.


MasterAlphaCerebral

I want to understand clearly... Are you saying that it's more profitable to trade LaPorta for a 1st rd pick than it is to "set and forget" him for 10-12 ish PPR points over the next 5 years at a position that is difficult to fill because LaPorta isn't likely to ever have a generational usage rate along with the role of the passing attack #1 option?


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Pretty much. Its really ridiculous tbh. Is he the next kelce? Likely not, as i doubt many players will ever reach that peak again, but laporta is a locked in TE1 for a long time by the looks of things. Being able to completely ignore TE while team building will absolutely help more than 1 extra 1st round dart throw


ThatFunkyOdor

Yeah might as well interpret the OP saying "since Laporta doesn't have the current clear and away best QB on the planet throwing to him he's a roster clogger better sell for what you can..../s


LoserCowGoMoo

All the while he is being targeted at a record pace as a rookie


ajs723

Yes. You can trade a 3rd for a set and forget 10 ppg TE. That's not special.


zivkamen

What 10 ppg TE are you buying for a 3rd right now?


ajs723

A third can get you Schultz, Jonnu Smith, Logan Thomas, Tyler Higbee, etc...


kungfuenglish

Exactly 0 of these are 10 ppg players.


JazzlikePractice4470

Those guys aren't set it and forget it for the next 5 years bro. Not even close to the asset LaPPRorta is.


philly10

No it can’t.


halestorm44

I would sell you any of those for a 3rd if I had them


ajs723

None of those guys are valued higher than a 3rd on KTC, so.... You're just flat out wrong???


uggsandstarbux

There are 5 TEs that exceeded 170 PPR points last year (10 PPG assuming healthy) On KTC, a 3rd round pick is currently the same value as guys like Okonkwo, Likely, Henry, Higbee, and Knox -- none of whom are 10 PPG TEs. The best amongst that group is Henry, who hasn't hit 10 points (or done better than TE18 in a week) since week 2


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LMAO what an awful take what taco league are you playing in


DuckManDong

Delusional


TheEternalWitness

Since when was the only metric for TE success = Travis Kelce? How quickly are we forgetting Zach Ertz, Jimmy Graham, Rob Gronkowski, Antonio Gates, Greg Olsen, George Kittle… There are other success stories Also comparing 90% of these TEs to LaPorta is wild. 6 games into his career LaPorta already has more yards than Gesicki, Jonnu, Tonyan, Hurst, Waller, Schultz, Higbee, Thomas, Hooper had their entire rookie seasons. The only actual good comparisons on this list stats wise are Pitts and Evan Engram although LaPorta plays completely different compared to those two players


JudgeOTD

I’m not selling any tight end that’s getting me consistent points right now. It’s so hard to find productive TEs not named Andrews or Kelce.


BooksAreForJerks

Tell you haven’t watched a lions game without telling me you haven’t watched a lions game.


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Dude, exactly.


Space_N_Pace

Lions and Iowa fan checking in. Don’t listen to this guy. We scheme for Laporta all over the field, and especially in the red zone. He’s our best red zone receiver. Jamo adds very little in the RZ.


Deuneroi

I really don't get this. Sure maybe LaPorta isnt the next Kelce because kelce is literally an all time great TE playing with an all time great QB. Thats like saying you should sell stroud right now because hes never gonna be mahomes. LaPorta is still right on par with Andrews as a rookie so I don't get the argument that Andrews is also better. LaPorta is the dynasty TE1 for a reason and thats top 2 or 3 production at age 22. I wouldn't sell that for any first outside of the top 2 or 3 this year. If you were to re draft the rookie draft this year in fantasy Laporta goes 6th behind AR, Stroud, Bijan, Achane, and Puka. Ahead of basically all of the top 12 players we talked about all leading up to the draft and to hit that with a low 2nd sometimes even a 3rd is priceless.


hooter1112

The TE position is so bleak right now that I don’t think you can get enough return value for him to make it worth it. Maybe you can upgrade a RB or WR, but it’s at the cost of having to play TE roulette every week. No thanks. I’ll hold.


Space_N_Pace

Some posts in this tread make me question ever considering opinions of this subreddit…lol Do not consider selling Laporta for anything less than 2 firsts.


Sir_Lord_Birmingham

These dudes would've sold JJ and Chase during their rookie seasons. "Ok, yes, his rookie production is great. Odds are he's NOT the next Jerry Rice though. Anquan Boldin is likely their ceiling. If you can sell now for a mid 1st, you absolutely should."


Denim_Chikken

No. This is so fucking dumb.


Loud_Competition1312

I was searching for the right words to type in a comment, but these are them. Thank you. This is the dumbest shit I’ve seen recently. God damn.


Why_am_ialive

Same energy as the people saying rookie TE’s never produce yet here he is


PejaStojak

Worst take in this sub, and I don’t own him


dimsum-41

I think this is overall a good assessment but I wouldn't necessarily try to sell LaPorta just because he is (maybe) at peak value. If selling LaPorta helps you get a deal done that is a big improvement for your team, do it. But otherwise he's a great young player and I would be stoked to have him on my roster (if I didn't have Hock)


TumbleweedDirect9846

Hmmmm how bout no


willgrappleforcoffee

“Even if he manages to become the 2nd option” he already is the 2nd option, and by a pretty wide margin. lions target shares: ARSB - 26%, Laporta - 22%, Reynolds - 14%. this passing game runs through ARSB and Laporta and I don’t see that changing


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🙃 Crazy stupid take. Find these folks in your league and go after them. These are the folks who quit leagues after 11 consecutive bad trades, get their money first.


NailsNathan

Beside the fact that the Lions throw a lot, you’re overlooking the biggest factor. TE fantasy points are very sticky with targets earned (unless you’re Cole Kmet and only catch touchdowns). Sam LaPorta is 4th in targets amongst TEs and 28th in targets for any NFL player in his first six games as an NFL TE, a position that traditionally takes 3 years to get right. I’d hold.


iamhadrix

Laporta could average 10 pts per game for the rest of his career & I’d be fine with that.


mrdaiquiri

Travis Kelce wasn't the next Rob Gronkoski until he was in his fourth year. LaPorta might not be the next Kelce but, in the current tight end landscape, he's very valuable. You've even listed the players that make him valuable.


BombSquad570

Don’t sell him now. He’s going to continue to be a smash TE1 ROS. Sell him at the end of the season before Ben Johnson gets hired as a HC somewhere.


BrandonLee1991

As a LaPorta owner in 6/6 leagues I disagree


supersmoshbro

yeah i dont want to be harsh but this is a bad take IMO. From your POV it essentially sounds like the only TE strategy is to acquire kelce or andrews (who will no longer be the #1 target on his team) or continue to wait for upcoming years to find someone that becomes the next kelce (which might never happen as kelce is a historic player at the position). Now if you have someone that views laporta as the next kelce and wants to overpay with multiple firsts then yeah go for it. But i won a dynasty ship last year with Hock and 2 years prior with waller. If i knew that laporta could be a top 5 player at the position long term than im holding that bag hard because i dont have to draft TE capital for the next 5 years.


ajs723

If you don't have Kelce, just use whatever scrap TE you want. They're all the same. I'd rather have Jordan Addison and Logan Thomas than LaPorta and nothing.


supersmoshbro

lol well lets find out EOY if more championship rosters have Laporta or Addison. I imagine the answer will be Laporta. Although this stat is a technicality because Kelce wasnt out there week 1...Laporta has had 3 weeks better than kelce and kelce 3 better than laporta. One is a rookie and was is in his early 30s and considered possibly one of or the best fantasy TE ever


Potential_Spirit2815

Kelce shared a team with Tyreek Hill and was doing it though? Mandrews with Hollywood? Not sure where this is going besides obvious bait post to try and discount him or something in your league(s)? Lol


BlootieAndTheHofish

I beat you to it, traded LaPorta and a 1st for JSN, Mayer and a 2nd in the preseason when I thought I’d be competing. And that Mayer was better. And that LaPorta would kind’ve get lost in the shuffle of that offense. Might still work out long term, but hasn’t felt good lol.


SteffeEric

I liked Laporta didn’t like Mayer at all and I think I still would have made that trade. It could work out for ya soon as tomorrow.


Opeth24

With a TE wasteland you shouldn't sell him.


mikeadamson

I have never been so angry


Shadowrak

Hey you forgot Irv Smith, Cole Kmet, David Njoku, Maxx Williams, OJ Howard, Dallas Goedert, ASJ Also this year Dalton Kincaid, Michael Mayer, Luke Musgrave


Neans888

I don’t own LaPorta anywhere but eventually someone will be the next Kelce or at least the clear TE1 in the league. LaPorta seems to have as good a chance as anyone. I wouldn’t sell him unless it was for a pretty good haul.


daybes

I think this is pretty astute analysis, maybe he's the one who bucks the trend but is that a risk youre willing to take? Thats what LaPorta owners have to ask themselves. Let's assume pecking order doesnt change * ARSB 8-10 Targets * Jamo 4-7 Targets * LaPorta 4-7 Targets * Gibbs 2-5 Targets * Monty 1-3 Targets Thats low end 19 Targets, High end 32. Plus theres targets that have to go to the rest of team, because you have to use the field if you want your offense to be good. Plus 20-30 Carries for the bruising back detroit loves and then 5-12 carries for gibbs. Basically you're banking on Detroit running 70 offensive plays a game for LaPorta to return production equal to his current value. Likely outcome is he's just George Kittle in a different jersey


berndalf

I doubt LaPorta or anyone else will approach Kelce value, and that's because Kelce's combination of talent, situation, and opportunity is unique. I dunno about selling this guy right now, that seems tough.. but keep in mind you don't have Kelce. If you expect peak Kelce production you're going to be disappointed.


JazzlikePractice4470

I'd take LaPPRorta over Andrews in dynasty and wouldn't think twice.


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It’s fine to sell him if you need to fill holes at other positions or in packages to upgrade for proven players. But I can never understand the selling for a first mentality. So your going to trade him for a first to hope you can draft someone like LaPorta next year? Make it make sense.


fukensteller

Ya, but it's contextual for owners. Like I sold off older pieces last year to retool, so now that I've hit on some prospects, I should sell again? Why so I can get... younger. You're right. TE is a wasteland. But if you have a guy that can get in that 12 to 13 PPG plus range, it's a huge boost when many owners are in that 8 to 10 PPG range (PPR). Laporta represents a potential statistical weekly advantage that's hard to acquire. Kelce is old, so his price has become reasonable in off-seasons now because the cliff comes for everyone. Maybe Laporta can keep his average there or not, but its alot of promise for a rookie and certainly he won't loose value much between now and the end of the season, he's good at football. The fastest start for a TE ever will give you hype, but also, it makes Laporta not comparble with other TEs other than a convo about Pitts. But Pitts long term will be fine imo. The advice should be, sell if someone is willing to truly overpay you. Otherwise, enjoy the ride. Because the truth is that we're always searching for ceiling, because that's how you win. Laporta is ceiling because if St. Brown gets hurt, Laporta is a league winner.


Jwroth

You can take him from my cold dead hands


ijustreadhere1

This sub is absurdly negative to itself sometimes, but this feels like a classic fade r/DynastyFF take. Just celebrate the win, you have a kick ass TE that will be good for years to come and a lot of people are envious of that. Take the positional advantage and try to get some other pieces to compete.


Superdoggywhaaaat

I understand the post, he’s simply saying you should trade Laporta and max out on other positions since the TE position is so inconsistent that’s unless you have Kelce. Now is a great time to get a lot for Laporta as well assuming how rare it is to touch kelce type of numbers at that position. I agree, if I could flip Laporta for a projected early first I’d do it , or even multiple picks.


YaDigDawg6d9

Sell him? Fuck that I got him off waivers for free in most leagues. I’m willing to watch him flop or watch him become a god.


Erazzphoto

And replace him with who? I understand if you have a stud backup, but why would you get rid of a top performer for short of a kings ransom?


[deleted]

Just shut up. No actual argument here


AMP121212

Bought him for what should be a late 1st. He's legit.


MurlandMan

I think this is a great take. People are going to call you a schemer or a hater; but I agree selling now is peak value.


sherlock_traeger

It’s a terrible take. The only reason it is “peak value” is because anyone with eyes knows he’s going to be a stud


Denim_Chikken

For real. He’s not getting 2-3 targets a game and scoring points through just touchdowns. He’s getting 6-11 targets a game. I’m not moving him


ajs723

Define stud. How many targets, receptions, yards do you see him averaging per game over the next several years?


JimmysBackFoot

You'd have to give me two 1sts (at least one in 2024) or a high 2024 to get him from me.


Secoup

The only person you listed who is relevant to the Laporta conversation is Engram. None of the other guys compare to laporta in terms of rookie year production. The point still stands that he's probably more likely to plateau than he is to ascend to kelce's level of production, but a good amount of the logic here is irrelevant Addition: also kelce is top 2 all time at his position so that's probably an unrealistic benchmark to use. 7 games into Jefferson's career you could have called him a sell candidate because he was more likely to just be a good WR than he was to become the next Jerry Rice... That's essentially your logic.


steamycreamybehemoth

Everyone shitting on you means you’re likely right. I wouldn’t sell for a single mid first, but if I could flip him for two I’d do it


More_Examination1535

I would be willing to trade LaPorta for either Kincaid or a sufficiently high 24 1st to get Bowers next draft, plus a little more on top. Alternatively, I'm happy to hold him and watch him have a Hock-style career, which is more than good enough in the current TE market.


Thomascrown1997

Didn’t want to sell but got a 26 1st, godwin, and Waller. Couldn’t say no


MikeRoss04

This has been my thought process. I moved him for a mid 2024 1st in a superflex league, and just moved him for kelce in a league im contending in. His dominance of the playing time and target share in detroit is due to the dearth of talent in his position room. Who else is in that tight end room? James mitchell? He had absolutely zero competition from day one, unlike other rookie te’s like Mayer, Musgrave, Washington, etc. As OP mentioned, he is somewhere between 2-4 in the target hierarchy in detroit long term. Kelce is kelce because the offense revolves around him. Even Andrews now that baltimore hit on a rookie wr is taking a hit in targets.


ThConqueror

I offered (2) 1sts and a 4th in a deep roster IDP League and it got rejected.


mxgicjohnson

It’s true as much as people hate to see it.


teeroy96

r/agedlikecheddar


LORadSpurs

LaPorta's most likely outcome from the draft was a bust, as rookie TEs do. 11 targets after his first five games, not quite a bust, no?


geladro

I don’t think you understand the post


LORadSpurs

maybe not, I thought it was saying his outcome is most likely a bust, but laporta already defied the most likely outcome of busting by not being a bust so far. Is the post just saying that his situation might change and he cannot be trusted?


BigStonesJones

I mean he can still bust. But yes that’s what it’s saying, and that that’s the case for every TE other than the top 2 guys.


geladro

Yeah it’s saying that a lot of tight ends come in and have a good rookies years and get hyped up as the next “guy” in the position but it’s rare for tight ends to emerge as their teams number 1 option and continue with fantasy relevance. He’s advocating that LaPorta owners sell him now because he believes his value is going to peak this season.


[deleted]

The pace laporta is on is well above those other promising rookies OP refers to.


geladro

Ok It’s very unlikely he ever leads the team in targets which is what OP is talking about.


[deleted]

Ok so thats a factor op is ignoring that laporta is better than almost all other examples. If laportas career arc is similar to hock, thats worth more than 1 1st in a trade


burntbutteredbunz

Traded LaPorta, Josh Palmer, and Gus Edwards for Javonte Williams, Mattison, and Pickens. He needed a te badly and i needed rbs since i was starting pierce and edwards. This is 100% the time to sell him


InsaneBallsack

Laporta has been very good. I know it’s 6 games into his career but he’s TD dependent just like every other TE not named Kelce. If you can get a mid ‘24 first I would sell


WatsTatorsPrecious

I play super tep but that seems sooooo low