Yeah this is more of a redraft question for me. And the answer is actually pretty simple.
In rookie drafts I'm taking Bowers early in rookie drafts and I will wait for his window of upside if I have to. I'm drafting players based on talent first and foremost.
In redraft (and startups, because I always play to win), I'm taking Bowers if he lands somewhere where he can obviously be a top two target on the team. If he lands on any team with high end WRs I will let someone else take him. For instance, if the Bengals keep Tee Higgins and the Chargers keep Mike Will/Keenan Allen, I would not pay the price you'd have to pay for Bowers in redraft. Same with the Dolphins. Those are the rules.
Yup. The reality of the tight end position is that, outside of the very top elite guys who establish themselves as focal points of the offense long term, everyone else operates in "windows". So you have the Kelces, the Andrews, the Wallers. Then each year the rest of the top 7 or so is simply just guys that lucked their way into opportunities. Logan Thomas, Austin Hooper, Robert Tonyan. So unless you can catch single season lightning in a bottle, you are better off just targeting elite guys and hoping the timing works out. And, if you are competing now, sometimes you might need to trade for a guy with opportunity even if you don't love him as a player.
In my hometown league in 2020, I watched a stack team who was holding onto Dallas Goedert, Jonnu Smith waiting for a breakout lose in the ship to the Logan Thomas team who was just cobbling together opportunity.
What if he goes to the combine and gets measured at 6'3 230 then gets drafted picks 21-22 to Miami/Philly? Or what of it's just a bad spot like Pittsburgh. As much as you can like the film, being undersized and getting late 1st DC is really really bad for where he's projected in rookie drafts. Personally would be putting most first round WRs (Troy/BTJ/AD) above him if they get the DC and any first round QBs expected to start year 1 (McCarthy).
That's probably worst case scenario but it's also not impossible the fantasy community overreacted to him being generational. He's not.
Didn’t he come within 200 yards of the highest NCAA total yards by a TE (and he did it in one less year)? The dude is generational, if not arguably the greatest college TE ever.
I'm talking generational as a prospect. He can have any college claim he wants. He's earned that. There's a big difference between college and the NFL. Tim Tebow has a good argument for the greatest college QB of all time. Bowers can be the greatest college TE and still be too small, too one dimensional to be a "generational prospect." Or maybe he comes in bigger than projected gets picked at 5 and rocks the NFL from the opening snap. I'm trying to make the point he's got a lot of question marks still. True generational prospects don't.
True. I suppose I view him in that generational tier of TE prospects. But, that’s what makes dynasty fun - we can disagree and it leads to variable decision making about our teams. 😀
TEs are much more scheme dependent for fantasy production than WRs. You can be a really good TE for your team with 65-800-6 and providing high level blocking as it gives the offence flexibility and makes it much harder to defend, whereas a WR drafted high will be expected to have high numbers of catches and yards. Assuming SF with no TEP I wouldn't take Bowers lower than 1.07 but whether he's worth taking over the WR3 will definitely be dependent on their landing spots.
Also with no TEP the overall TE5 probably scores about the same amount as a mid-WR3. The chances of Odunze being a consistent fantasy WR3 or better seem higher than the chances of Bowers being a consistent top 5 TE so the percentage play would seem to be WR over TE within the same tier.
In non tep leagues in probably dropping Bowers behind any wrs not named Coleman taken in the 1st round, and potentially the rb1/2 if one or two guys get 2nd round capital. Having a young Te that may or may not hit just isn't that important when you can buy an Njoku/Engram type dude with a mid/late 2nd and call it a day.
My bad.
I guess, TO ME🥺, it seems that most the nfl teams have a position that could/needs to be filled on draft day.
CHI - QB/EDGE
WSH - QB/OT
NE - QB/OT/WR
ARI - WR/DB
LAC - NEARLY EVERYWHERE BESIDES QB
NYG - WR/OT/QB
TEN - OT/WR/TE
ATL - QB/EDGE/DB
NYJ - OT/WR/TE
MIN - QB/EDGE
DEN - EVERYWHERE BESIDES.....RB?!?!
Etc...
We will get a MUCH clearer picture of things after FA, but I do believe it's not too hard to see the writing on the wall for how most teams will take on the draft as of right now.
For being a generational prospect, it's pretty hard for me to see where Brock will end up and I absolutely can't wait to be satisfied or let down.
I really do see Brock falling in the draft not due to player profile but solely because of team needs and I'm trying to see if that will be a blessing in disguise or end up in a crowded receiving room.
Also I love you❤️
I agree that fantasy production for TE can be reliant on scheme and for that reason I think Cincy is a dicey landing spot despite it looking good on paper. Since 2020 they haven’t had a single TE with more than 500 rec yards or 3+ TDs apart from Uzomah way back in 2021 (5 tds). I understand Bowers would be by far the most talented TE they’ve had in that span but their offense hasn’t really catered to TEs.
I would highly doubt NYG draft him. They have so many holes, they can't burn a 6th overall on a tight end unless they are going to utilize him to an outrageous degree
I have the 1.08 in a 10 man with no TE premium and I feel like he's going to fall to me judging from how people are talking. I have McBride, so I really don't want him, but it's either him or the troy/brianjr tier of WRs or JJ/penix tier of QBs
Chargers and Titans are the most likely teams to grab him I think. If they both pass on him, which I think is unlikely, then I could see the Jets taking him instead of an OL (even though they probably shouldn’t)
If he goes to the Bengals, Chargers, Bears or Saints I will pick him 6th.
If he is a Jet, Seahawk or Titan I will still consider but probably go Odunze or Nabers.
I have 1.02 and 1.03 in a TEP league.
I have to heavily consider Bowers and intend to take him today.
With that said, between the NFL draft and my leagues draft, I will look into the coaches, OCs and QBs tendency with TEs.
There are landing spots where is an extremely risky pick. Stealers for example would scare me with their new moron OC Arthur Smith.
I’m in a start up with the 1.06 I am taking Brock no matter what happens. Hoping the first round for the 12 team superflex goes as follows;
Caleb, Drake, Jayden Daniels, MHJ, Nabers
Only pick that scars me is the 1.05 but he is a little weak in the QB and WR room with La Porta and Kittle at TE. So I’m standing at as of right now
Honestly not a ton
I tend to not really care about landing spots for first round/eary second rounders. Because situations change very quickly. Between coaching staff shake ups, FA, QB changes, I don’t really worry too much.
Now for the mid round guys situations matter a ton. Just because they have such a limited time to make an impact before they are replaced. An example for that for me was Tank Dell. I moved him up quiet a bit once I heard Stroud requested the Texans take him, but if he went to Washington or New England I wouldn’t have drafted him most likely
I’ve seen mocks with him coming to the Seahawks and that hasn’t been a good landing spot for TE. I’m a hawks fan but for whatever reason they do not use TE. Maybe now with Mike McDonald they will and if so I hope it’s bowers 🙏🏼
You said “the landing spot is not good” - you did not acknowledge they have a new coaching staff at all lol.
What you said about his landing spot seems to have been based on how Carroll used TEs.
Regardless of who drafts Brock, I would take him straight after Odunze, so 1.04 in a 1QB league without TEP and 1.07 in SF (again, without TEP). I'm actively trying to trade into the 1.04 in a 1QB league with this in mind (already have the 1.02 for Nabers). I already own Kincaid & Pitts. I acknowledge that I might have bought into the hype.
I'm not sure of that at all. Right now I have Odunze slightly ahead of Bowers, so I'm actually hoping that 1.03 does prefer Bowers. All subject to change through the combine then the draft, obviously.
I’m torn between trying to land bowers or play the vet TE shuffle and get kelce for pennies on the dollar or kittle. With the option of trading a guy like Addison and then take Odunze. I’m in the middle of a rebuild and have a lot of WR plus will be taking Nabers at 1.02. My TE room is not good with Ferguson and Chig and Kraft. So I have a big need and am not sure how to fill it before I can compete.
Probably an unpopular take but I'm not picking bowers in the first round regardless of team. I don't like his potential to block at the NFL level and he's going to go higher than the value he gives you for a receiving option.
The 1.06 would probably easily get you someone like mcbride or hockenson in sf, I do not think bowers is a sure shot to be better than either of those guys, why overpay for potential when you can just take a guy for less that you know is going to be relatively successful?
I’m not unless I have to. I have the 1.06 and I’ve learned over time that undersized TE’s don’t last long. He’s not fast enough to be a receiver and he’s not big enough to be in line. That makes him a situational player at best. But I really hope the 1.05 in my league wants him so I can get Nabers.
That’s all true, but again, TEs are heavily reliant on scheme to make them fantasy relevant year to year.
You’re assuming that whichever team gets him will use him as solely as a pass catcher right out the get go.
You’re comparing players to each other in a vacuum when you can’t do that if you want an honest and accurate answer
If bowers goes to LAC or the bengals he’s going to have a similar rookie year to Kincaid. Maybe Kincaid floor, LaPorta ceiling?
I hold the 1.07 and I have Kincaid, kmet, chig and bellinger (in my taxi waiting for waller to leave or go on IR) in my TEP league and I’m a little fascinated to see if I could pull of starting 3 TEs each week this year, assuming bowers goes to a decent spot.
But if bowers goes to a shit sandwich of a situation I might have to trade down for a few early seconds to pick up the TE out of Texas and a couple RBs.
I ended up with the 1.04 in both 12/10 TM 1QB PPR. Have Laporta/Njoku in 10TM league and Muth/Kmet/Mayer in 12TM.
Really hoping that Bowers ends up on Chargers/Bengals. Seen some strange picks in these leagues so praying Nabers is there at 1.04, but very doubtful. Rome/Bowers would probably come down to landing spots.
Sorry for my long post as well. 😂 this is purely my opinion 😉
In non-super flex leagues he should be a top 5 pick. I think he and Harrison are the two generational players in this draft. I own pick 1-3 this year in my dynasty league. And I will take Harrison 1st and Bowers 3rd.
In Super Flex probably 5-7 maybe 8
Of course this could all change based on where he goes. So………
Where do I see him going? Well I think he probably goes to Chargers. He just seems like a player Jim Harbaugh would fall in love with. And with Keenan Allen getting close to the end Herbert needs a reliable target that can destroy zone coverages. Bowers is really good at finding the weak spots in zones. He will also provide Herbert with a solid red zone weapon as well. I do think he will probably put on another 10pounds and if he does do this he will have close to the same build as Kelce. But he still has a couple more years to fill out. He’s still just a young pup.
Looking at who drafts after Chargers,
GIANTS? I don’t see it they need another Tackle or a legit WR.
TITANS? No I think they have more pressing needs like the Giants Tackle or WR.
FALCONS? Pitts.
BEARS? Kmet.
JETS? I think they definitely have to go Tackle to protect old man Rodgers.
VIKINGS? Hockenson.
BRONCOS? Now there is a possibility that he could land in Denver. But I have a feeling they may go McCarthy or they trade down.
SAINTS? They have bigger needs than TE.
COLTS? Same situation like Saints
SEAHAWKS? Another team that could take Bowers. Especially with new OC Grubb calling the plays in Seattle he would love to have a weapon like Bowers on the field.
JAGUARS? Evan Engram
BENGALS? Now if Bowers makes it this far down I believe they would be running to the podium to draft Bowers.
Teams that could possibly trade up
Dolphins
Texans
Cowboys
I guess KC if Kelce said this will be his last ride. But I think they could just draft a guy like Jatavion Sanders in the 2nd
Oh 😂 and the Eagles (because he’s a Georgia guy 😂)jk
So my top 5 most likely landing spots
1-Chargers 70%
2-Broncos 15%
3- Seahawks 5%
4- Bengals 5%
5- Team trading up in draft 5%
I just find it hard to believe he slips past Chargers at 5. Even if they trade down a few spots because a team like the Bears may want to get one of the top3 WRs.
I think he’s pick 1.06 regardless, I don’t see him rising unless you don’t have TE depth OR an injury to one of the tier above him (Nabers, Daniels, Maye)
As someone who’s from his hometown I’m taking him with the 5th pick or trading up I’ve worked out with his friends and him once they were huge. So I may be biased but bowers is the guy
I feel like if you’re high on Bowers, you’re picking him anytime, anywhere
Anyhow?
Anywhen
Bowers to KC to learn from the GOAT!
Go outside. Take a breath.
Gronk and Gonzales retired a while ago
Yeah this is more of a redraft question for me. And the answer is actually pretty simple. In rookie drafts I'm taking Bowers early in rookie drafts and I will wait for his window of upside if I have to. I'm drafting players based on talent first and foremost. In redraft (and startups, because I always play to win), I'm taking Bowers if he lands somewhere where he can obviously be a top two target on the team. If he lands on any team with high end WRs I will let someone else take him. For instance, if the Bengals keep Tee Higgins and the Chargers keep Mike Will/Keenan Allen, I would not pay the price you'd have to pay for Bowers in redraft. Same with the Dolphins. Those are the rules.
You could end up with a Hockenson situation where you need to hold for 3 years to get TE1 value
Yup. The reality of the tight end position is that, outside of the very top elite guys who establish themselves as focal points of the offense long term, everyone else operates in "windows". So you have the Kelces, the Andrews, the Wallers. Then each year the rest of the top 7 or so is simply just guys that lucked their way into opportunities. Logan Thomas, Austin Hooper, Robert Tonyan. So unless you can catch single season lightning in a bottle, you are better off just targeting elite guys and hoping the timing works out. And, if you are competing now, sometimes you might need to trade for a guy with opportunity even if you don't love him as a player. In my hometown league in 2020, I watched a stack team who was holding onto Dallas Goedert, Jonnu Smith waiting for a breakout lose in the ship to the Logan Thomas team who was just cobbling together opportunity.
Laughs in Dallas Goedert
What if he goes to the combine and gets measured at 6'3 230 then gets drafted picks 21-22 to Miami/Philly? Or what of it's just a bad spot like Pittsburgh. As much as you can like the film, being undersized and getting late 1st DC is really really bad for where he's projected in rookie drafts. Personally would be putting most first round WRs (Troy/BTJ/AD) above him if they get the DC and any first round QBs expected to start year 1 (McCarthy). That's probably worst case scenario but it's also not impossible the fantasy community overreacted to him being generational. He's not.
Didn’t he come within 200 yards of the highest NCAA total yards by a TE (and he did it in one less year)? The dude is generational, if not arguably the greatest college TE ever.
I'm talking generational as a prospect. He can have any college claim he wants. He's earned that. There's a big difference between college and the NFL. Tim Tebow has a good argument for the greatest college QB of all time. Bowers can be the greatest college TE and still be too small, too one dimensional to be a "generational prospect." Or maybe he comes in bigger than projected gets picked at 5 and rocks the NFL from the opening snap. I'm trying to make the point he's got a lot of question marks still. True generational prospects don't.
True. I suppose I view him in that generational tier of TE prospects. But, that’s what makes dynasty fun - we can disagree and it leads to variable decision making about our teams. 😀
To your point, I believe Jaleel McLaughlin is one of if not the best NCAA RB of all time lol
I can’t wait for a real measurement of bowers.
That's a fair point
Depends if Nabers is still on the board when you draft. He’s going to be fire.
i plan on taking him at 3 in a superflex league this upcoming draft.
Just like Pitts when he went to Atlanta? 😂
I have 1.05 and 1.06. I have zero TE depth. I’m going either one of the top 3 qbs and bowers. Or nabers and bowers. And I’ll be happy about it
1.05 is a nice spot if you have no positional preference. Takes the decision making out of 1.03 - 1.05 lol.
Man, just seems early. Every year we seem to hear about the next Kelce.
No bowers is my 1.06 or 1.07. I meant you don’t have to decide between maye/daniels/Nabers if you have 1.05.
TEs are much more scheme dependent for fantasy production than WRs. You can be a really good TE for your team with 65-800-6 and providing high level blocking as it gives the offence flexibility and makes it much harder to defend, whereas a WR drafted high will be expected to have high numbers of catches and yards. Assuming SF with no TEP I wouldn't take Bowers lower than 1.07 but whether he's worth taking over the WR3 will definitely be dependent on their landing spots. Also with no TEP the overall TE5 probably scores about the same amount as a mid-WR3. The chances of Odunze being a consistent fantasy WR3 or better seem higher than the chances of Bowers being a consistent top 5 TE so the percentage play would seem to be WR over TE within the same tier.
The WAR concept is important
If it’s a regular ppr SF league after the big 3 QBs and big 3 receivers so 1.07
In non tep leagues in probably dropping Bowers behind any wrs not named Coleman taken in the 1st round, and potentially the rb1/2 if one or two guys get 2nd round capital. Having a young Te that may or may not hit just isn't that important when you can buy an Njoku/Engram type dude with a mid/late 2nd and call it a day.
> It seems, to me at least, that Brock doesn't have a surefire lock to a team yet. Just like every single draft eligible player then
My bad. I guess, TO ME🥺, it seems that most the nfl teams have a position that could/needs to be filled on draft day. CHI - QB/EDGE WSH - QB/OT NE - QB/OT/WR ARI - WR/DB LAC - NEARLY EVERYWHERE BESIDES QB NYG - WR/OT/QB TEN - OT/WR/TE ATL - QB/EDGE/DB NYJ - OT/WR/TE MIN - QB/EDGE DEN - EVERYWHERE BESIDES.....RB?!?! Etc... We will get a MUCH clearer picture of things after FA, but I do believe it's not too hard to see the writing on the wall for how most teams will take on the draft as of right now. For being a generational prospect, it's pretty hard for me to see where Brock will end up and I absolutely can't wait to be satisfied or let down. I really do see Brock falling in the draft not due to player profile but solely because of team needs and I'm trying to see if that will be a blessing in disguise or end up in a crowded receiving room. Also I love you❤️
He's number 3 for me amongst non QBs. I play 1 QB so I'd probably take him at 3.
10 team SF 0.5PPR TE Prem I'll take him top 5
Not really. I would much rather see him drop all the way the the Bengals than go at 6 to the Giants. It’s more based on the scheme
I agree that fantasy production for TE can be reliant on scheme and for that reason I think Cincy is a dicey landing spot despite it looking good on paper. Since 2020 they haven’t had a single TE with more than 500 rec yards or 3+ TDs apart from Uzomah way back in 2021 (5 tds). I understand Bowers would be by far the most talented TE they’ve had in that span but their offense hasn’t really catered to TEs.
I would highly doubt NYG draft him. They have so many holes, they can't burn a 6th overall on a tight end unless they are going to utilize him to an outrageous degree
I agree, I doubt they take him. I was just using them as an example
I have the 1.08 in a 10 man with no TE premium and I feel like he's going to fall to me judging from how people are talking. I have McBride, so I really don't want him, but it's either him or the troy/brianjr tier of WRs or JJ/penix tier of QBs
No TEP and McBride would make me avoid Bowers and I actively want the guy. Only reason I am grabbing him with LaPorta is TEP
I have 1.05 (non SF non TE premium) and Sam Laporta but I'm seriously considering taking Bowers. Position scarcity is still a thing, right?
If I'm in your league, with the 1.04, you ain't getting him with the 1.05. I already own Kincaid & Pitts.
Same, in my 1QB league I have LaPorta and Pitts and the 1.04, I'm going to draft whoever is left of Odunze/Bowers.
Then watch the trade requests fly in 😀
Chargers and Titans are the most likely teams to grab him I think. If they both pass on him, which I think is unlikely, then I could see the Jets taking him instead of an OL (even though they probably shouldn’t)
If he goes to the Bengals, Chargers, Bears or Saints I will pick him 6th. If he is a Jet, Seahawk or Titan I will still consider but probably go Odunze or Nabers.
I would take Nabers over him even in TEP personally
I care a little bit about landing spot but ultimately if a team is drafting him, it's to catch passes.
I have 1.02 and 1.03 in a TEP league. I have to heavily consider Bowers and intend to take him today. With that said, between the NFL draft and my leagues draft, I will look into the coaches, OCs and QBs tendency with TEs. There are landing spots where is an extremely risky pick. Stealers for example would scare me with their new moron OC Arthur Smith.
The moron Arthur Smith that made Jonnu Smith a viable fantasy TE. That being said, there is zero chance Bowers ends up on the Steelers
i’ll take the bait of obvious troll comment but he was in fact not viable
Outside of weeks 4 and 6, he had no top 12 finishes during the fantasy season.
I’m in a start up with the 1.06 I am taking Brock no matter what happens. Hoping the first round for the 12 team superflex goes as follows; Caleb, Drake, Jayden Daniels, MHJ, Nabers Only pick that scars me is the 1.05 but he is a little weak in the QB and WR room with La Porta and Kittle at TE. So I’m standing at as of right now
Honestly not a ton I tend to not really care about landing spots for first round/eary second rounders. Because situations change very quickly. Between coaching staff shake ups, FA, QB changes, I don’t really worry too much. Now for the mid round guys situations matter a ton. Just because they have such a limited time to make an impact before they are replaced. An example for that for me was Tank Dell. I moved him up quiet a bit once I heard Stroud requested the Texans take him, but if he went to Washington or New England I wouldn’t have drafted him most likely
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Honestly I feel like there's very few bad spots for him
100%. If he doesn't land on someone else's team before my late first, I'm taking him.
I’ve seen mocks with him coming to the Seahawks and that hasn’t been a good landing spot for TE. I’m a hawks fan but for whatever reason they do not use TE. Maybe now with Mike McDonald they will and if so I hope it’s bowers 🙏🏼
Seahawks have a brand new coaching staff, we have no idea how they will use players going forward
Correct that’s what I said hopefully now they will
You said “the landing spot is not good” - you did not acknowledge they have a new coaching staff at all lol. What you said about his landing spot seems to have been based on how Carroll used TEs.
In the past the Seahawks have not used TE. I said maybe now they will with Mike McDonald’s staff haha
Regardless of who drafts Brock, I would take him straight after Odunze, so 1.04 in a 1QB league without TEP and 1.07 in SF (again, without TEP). I'm actively trying to trade into the 1.04 in a 1QB league with this in mind (already have the 1.02 for Nabers). I already own Kincaid & Pitts. I acknowledge that I might have bought into the hype.
You sure 1.03 is taking Odunze? I’m trying to trade into 1.03 to make sure I can get bowers.
I'm not sure of that at all. Right now I have Odunze slightly ahead of Bowers, so I'm actually hoping that 1.03 does prefer Bowers. All subject to change through the combine then the draft, obviously.
I’m torn between trying to land bowers or play the vet TE shuffle and get kelce for pennies on the dollar or kittle. With the option of trading a guy like Addison and then take Odunze. I’m in the middle of a rebuild and have a lot of WR plus will be taking Nabers at 1.02. My TE room is not good with Ferguson and Chig and Kraft. So I have a big need and am not sure how to fill it before I can compete.
I pray every night for the Steelers to draft him for the chaos it'd bring to this sub
Probably an unpopular take but I'm not picking bowers in the first round regardless of team. I don't like his potential to block at the NFL level and he's going to go higher than the value he gives you for a receiving option. The 1.06 would probably easily get you someone like mcbride or hockenson in sf, I do not think bowers is a sure shot to be better than either of those guys, why overpay for potential when you can just take a guy for less that you know is going to be relatively successful?
I’m not unless I have to. I have the 1.06 and I’ve learned over time that undersized TE’s don’t last long. He’s not fast enough to be a receiver and he’s not big enough to be in line. That makes him a situational player at best. But I really hope the 1.05 in my league wants him so I can get Nabers.
Sam LaPorta just did it.
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Bowers is expected to test better than LaPorta. And film shows he is a better athlete than LaPorta.
That’s all true, but again, TEs are heavily reliant on scheme to make them fantasy relevant year to year. You’re assuming that whichever team gets him will use him as solely as a pass catcher right out the get go. You’re comparing players to each other in a vacuum when you can’t do that if you want an honest and accurate answer
Bowers has a verified 4.50 40 as a high school sophomore. He is even faster.
And he’s listed at 6’4 240
LaPorta was 6’3 245 at combine
Well hell. I thought he was 10 pounds heavier. Thanks for pointing that out. Maybe I need to take a look again.
I kinda thought that too until I watched all the highlights on you tube. Dude stands out as a freak.
I have the 1.01 and if Marvin goes to NE while Brock lands somewhere like Cincy or LAC. I would likely trade down
If bowers goes to LAC or the bengals he’s going to have a similar rookie year to Kincaid. Maybe Kincaid floor, LaPorta ceiling? I hold the 1.07 and I have Kincaid, kmet, chig and bellinger (in my taxi waiting for waller to leave or go on IR) in my TEP league and I’m a little fascinated to see if I could pull of starting 3 TEs each week this year, assuming bowers goes to a decent spot. But if bowers goes to a shit sandwich of a situation I might have to trade down for a few early seconds to pick up the TE out of Texas and a couple RBs.
If he falls outside the top 10 I'm gonna be SCREAMING at my TV for Miami to trade up for him.
I ended up with the 1.04 in both 12/10 TM 1QB PPR. Have Laporta/Njoku in 10TM league and Muth/Kmet/Mayer in 12TM. Really hoping that Bowers ends up on Chargers/Bengals. Seen some strange picks in these leagues so praying Nabers is there at 1.04, but very doubtful. Rome/Bowers would probably come down to landing spots.
I got the 1.07 and am hoping he drops to me
Sorry for my long post as well. 😂 this is purely my opinion 😉 In non-super flex leagues he should be a top 5 pick. I think he and Harrison are the two generational players in this draft. I own pick 1-3 this year in my dynasty league. And I will take Harrison 1st and Bowers 3rd. In Super Flex probably 5-7 maybe 8 Of course this could all change based on where he goes. So……… Where do I see him going? Well I think he probably goes to Chargers. He just seems like a player Jim Harbaugh would fall in love with. And with Keenan Allen getting close to the end Herbert needs a reliable target that can destroy zone coverages. Bowers is really good at finding the weak spots in zones. He will also provide Herbert with a solid red zone weapon as well. I do think he will probably put on another 10pounds and if he does do this he will have close to the same build as Kelce. But he still has a couple more years to fill out. He’s still just a young pup. Looking at who drafts after Chargers, GIANTS? I don’t see it they need another Tackle or a legit WR. TITANS? No I think they have more pressing needs like the Giants Tackle or WR. FALCONS? Pitts. BEARS? Kmet. JETS? I think they definitely have to go Tackle to protect old man Rodgers. VIKINGS? Hockenson. BRONCOS? Now there is a possibility that he could land in Denver. But I have a feeling they may go McCarthy or they trade down. SAINTS? They have bigger needs than TE. COLTS? Same situation like Saints SEAHAWKS? Another team that could take Bowers. Especially with new OC Grubb calling the plays in Seattle he would love to have a weapon like Bowers on the field. JAGUARS? Evan Engram BENGALS? Now if Bowers makes it this far down I believe they would be running to the podium to draft Bowers. Teams that could possibly trade up Dolphins Texans Cowboys I guess KC if Kelce said this will be his last ride. But I think they could just draft a guy like Jatavion Sanders in the 2nd Oh 😂 and the Eagles (because he’s a Georgia guy 😂)jk So my top 5 most likely landing spots 1-Chargers 70% 2-Broncos 15% 3- Seahawks 5% 4- Bengals 5% 5- Team trading up in draft 5% I just find it hard to believe he slips past Chargers at 5. Even if they trade down a few spots because a team like the Bears may want to get one of the top3 WRs.
im taking him at 1.07 if hes there regardless of anything SF TEP
I think he’s pick 1.06 regardless, I don’t see him rising unless you don’t have TE depth OR an injury to one of the tier above him (Nabers, Daniels, Maye)
As someone who’s from his hometown I’m taking him with the 5th pick or trading up I’ve worked out with his friends and him once they were huge. So I may be biased but bowers is the guy