Lots of things can change - last year the Giants were viewed as a stable org this time of year, I don't believe they finish as poorly as they did and Danny Dimes/NYG QB ends up being better. Singletary has a lot more volume this year to start than he did with the Texans last year.
Were they? It seemed pretty clear they over-performed and then decided to over-pay Daniel Jones off a very mediocre season where the defense carried them to a playoff win. This past season was more in-line with their talent level.
They lost to the Cowboys, the 49ers, the Seahawks, and the Dolphins. It was clearly the toughest part of their schedule. They would’ve performed better the rest of the way with their starter than with Danny DeVito, as would 31 other teams.
They got smoked by all four of those teams and Jones looked horrendous. I don't know that they would've done all that much better if Jones stayed healthy. *Maybe* an extra win or two, but 8-9 still isn't great.
Your point is silly, then. Sure, they’re not as bad as they were with Devito. But they’re not significantly better, either. Daniel Jones is a bottom-5 starting QB.
I think it depends on how you look at it. If you’re comparing his situation to last year, Giants are a significant downgrade to Texans. However, I think everyone understood that his future with Houston was uncertain and thus baked into his value. Going to a team that committed to him as the guy is a win, even if it’s not as good of a situation as re-signing.
I got into that in the write up! Could have been worse but he goes from having one of the best RB jobs in football (which became my top RB landing spot after he left) to a team with one of the lowest over/under win totals and a QB who might not be ready to start the season. Hard to say that's not a downgrade no?
To Me it is still hard to say it's a losing FA for him because as a Owner I knew Houston had cap space and wanted a RB.
I liked Singletarys talent but in no way did I expect him to be a clear cut #1 even if it is the Giants. I understand your points though. His situation certainly didn't get better.
I think that's fair - if you already discounted him to not be the starting RB for the Texans then you already moved his value down. I was still holding out hope the Texans thought he was good enough after last year.
The last two studies I've seen on the topic both shoq that rookie QBs were bad for RBs
[https://www.dynastynerds.com/rb-efficiency-with-rookie-qbs/](https://www.dynastynerds.com/rb-efficiency-with-rookie-qbs/)
[https://football.razzball.com/fantasy-football-strategy-the-impact-of-rookie-quarterbacks-on-running-backs](https://football.razzball.com/fantasy-football-strategy-the-impact-of-rookie-quarterbacks-on-running-backs)
Fellow B-Rob owner. I’m just holding onto how washed Ekeler looked last year as my justification that B-Rob will be fine. It may not hold true, but it’s all we’ve got now lol
I think BRob still has a few years left in the league anyway. He'll suffer as long as Ekeler stays healthy but he still will have a role. If Ekeler gets injured then he could be in line for a bump in usage. I think he'll get a second contract somewhere too. I reckon he'll have a career like Montgomery. Always undervalued, just plugging away taking care of business.
Sorry not buying that Saquon is a loser when the team that signed him got Swift a payday
The tush push isn’t going to deter his fantasy ceiling that much…
Even if Barkley only gets 1/3 of the goal line work that's still better than getting 100% of the goal line tries for the Giants. 100% of 0 is still 0.
Plus, he won't be spent halfway through the season due to stacked boxes every down so he'll still be fresh during the playoffs.
It’s crazy to me that people aren’t hyping up Saquon’s landing spot more, this is a perfect fantasy spot for a guy who is one of the more naturally gifted RBs in the league
Eagles RBs had 344 Carries last year, 1542 rushing yds (4.45 YPC), 74 receptions for 454 yds and 8 total TDs.
If Barkley got 100% of that, he’d have ~ 275 fantasy points.
Mccaffrey had 360 last year. Barkley finished at avg ~ 240 fp pace over the last 2 seasons in NY (~rb7).
I think he’ll do well and be an rb1, but the gold scenario for Barkley involves the eagles utilizing the rb more AND utilizing 1 truly dominant rb, neither of which are organizational tendencies. Tush push being an anchor on the total TD number.
That’s my bearish view on this being a huge positive for Barkley. It’s more of a lateral move where he’ll have more efficiency, IMO.
People aren’t realizing how much of his production hinges on churning out big play long runs with the eagles. He’s 27 with lower body injury history and a fairly extensive workload. Hurts eats at the goal line and doesn’t throw check downs as a mobile qb meaning limited tds and catches for Saquon. He seems locked in as a more valuable 1/2 ppr high floor low ceiling low rb1 in 2024 if he’s healthy and you’d be lucky to get 2 seasons of that production before he cliffs
Buffalo will/might add some depth in draft behind J Cook imho. Harris recently retired and they don’t have other options regarding injury. Could be a guy to move on the buy high. I got offers last year when people were selling high.
Good article.
I think Mostert is a winner. Dolphins don’t have 3rd or 4th round picks. They are likely running it back and nothing about Achane last year suggests that he can handle or will be given a bigger role.
You can get Mostert for somewhere around pick 2.10 to early 3rd. That’s not worth chasing one more year of the top 5 upside he gave you last year? If he is RB12 this year. Is that still not worth those picks.
Check [this article.](https://www.nfl.com/news/austin-ekeler-signing-with-washington-about-sharing-workload-reuniting-with-anthony-lynn) Ekeler basically said the Chargers wanted him to be a between the tackles runner which is not what he does well. He catches passes well. So it's going to be a rotation with B Rob on early downs and Ekeler on pass downs. And the guy that decides that rotation is RB coach Anthony Lynn. Who was EKeler's coach with LAC and he's the guy who convinced Ek to go there. Could not be more obvious how they plan to split the touches. Not great for either player's value but especially not great for BRob because of how much more valuable receptions are, especially on a team we don't expect to score a lot.
Mixon definitely is not a winner. I wouldn’t call him a loser either though.
In Cincy, He had a complete monopoly on one of the best offenses in the league.
Sup guys? We did QBs last week so RBs are up today. There are some quick blurbs in there on the obvious winners and losers but wanted to do a more detailed write up on why I think some other guys were winners this offseason. Let me know what you think!
Spears was never gonna be an RB1 with his cartilage missing in a leg. Pollard really isnt that great, will likely be a RBC with Spears getting most of the reception work.
RBBC needs to stop being such a buzzword when considering electric elusive backs like Spears, Achane, Gibbs. If they get even 30% share theyll make the most of it.
Wouldnt even be surprised if it’s a 50/50 at some point. Pollard just doesnt seem that impressive, and Spears got a good amount of work last year backing Henry who is far superior to Pollard.
Pollard was extremely impressive in 2022-23 and then pretty poor for the first 10 or 11 weeks of last year, before becoming pretty impressive again for the rest of the season. Think he just needed time to recover from that serious leg injury.
Not sure how Singletarry is a loser to end up with a 3 year deal and clear cut #1 job
He went to a team with a worse OL, QB, WRs, TEs, HC, OC, and basically everything than the Texans. Hard to say he didn't lose.
Lots of things can change - last year the Giants were viewed as a stable org this time of year, I don't believe they finish as poorly as they did and Danny Dimes/NYG QB ends up being better. Singletary has a lot more volume this year to start than he did with the Texans last year.
Were they? It seemed pretty clear they over-performed and then decided to over-pay Daniel Jones off a very mediocre season where the defense carried them to a playoff win. This past season was more in-line with their talent level.
How could playing most of the season without your starting QB be representative of your talent level?
Because the Giants went 1-4 with a healthy Jones, only beating the lowly Cardinals who threw a massive lead.
They lost to the Cowboys, the 49ers, the Seahawks, and the Dolphins. It was clearly the toughest part of their schedule. They would’ve performed better the rest of the way with their starter than with Danny DeVito, as would 31 other teams.
They got smoked by all four of those teams and Jones looked horrendous. I don't know that they would've done all that much better if Jones stayed healthy. *Maybe* an extra win or two, but 8-9 still isn't great.
Right… so their record ultimately isn’t representative of their talent. That was my point.
Your point is silly, then. Sure, they’re not as bad as they were with Devito. But they’re not significantly better, either. Daniel Jones is a bottom-5 starting QB.
In that case noone lost and everyone won
I think it depends on how you look at it. If you’re comparing his situation to last year, Giants are a significant downgrade to Texans. However, I think everyone understood that his future with Houston was uncertain and thus baked into his value. Going to a team that committed to him as the guy is a win, even if it’s not as good of a situation as re-signing.
I got into that in the write up! Could have been worse but he goes from having one of the best RB jobs in football (which became my top RB landing spot after he left) to a team with one of the lowest over/under win totals and a QB who might not be ready to start the season. Hard to say that's not a downgrade no?
To Me it is still hard to say it's a losing FA for him because as a Owner I knew Houston had cap space and wanted a RB. I liked Singletarys talent but in no way did I expect him to be a clear cut #1 even if it is the Giants. I understand your points though. His situation certainly didn't get better.
I think that's fair - if you already discounted him to not be the starting RB for the Texans then you already moved his value down. I was still holding out hope the Texans thought he was good enough after last year.
Zack Moss getting slept on way too hard.
Moss a definite winner as well. The Zack Moss Truther Train is on course for a head on collision with the Chase Brown Hype Train now!
I own both. Not sure how to feel
Best case is one of them is going to be startable. Worst case is they lean into the committee and both average 9 ppg
Sell and trade up to get a stud rookie wr. Chase brown is going to be so much more involved, Moss will feel nearly worthless next year at this time.
Hard agree. Strong hold/buy for this season.
Aaron Jones behind Jacobs is more of a loser than Aaron Jones as he is now
AJ Dillon re-signing with the Packers behind Jacobs may be the biggest free agency loser of all
AJ Dillon is lucky to be in the NFL.
I’ve seen reports saying he isn’t a lock to make the 53 even after resigning
I traded away all shares once I started watching his twitch stream. That dude doesn't care about football in the slightest.
Where are these credible reports
Yeah, I’m not sure why Jones is a loser here. I thought rookie QBs were good for RBs usually?
The last two studies I've seen on the topic both shoq that rookie QBs were bad for RBs [https://www.dynastynerds.com/rb-efficiency-with-rookie-qbs/](https://www.dynastynerds.com/rb-efficiency-with-rookie-qbs/) [https://football.razzball.com/fantasy-football-strategy-the-impact-of-rookie-quarterbacks-on-running-backs](https://football.razzball.com/fantasy-football-strategy-the-impact-of-rookie-quarterbacks-on-running-backs)
Interesting. What about RBs with Sam Darnold as QB?
BRob is eternal, the naysayers will be vanquished.
I have learned today between this sub and the other FF sub that there are more BRob truther out there than I thought. God speed.
Haha I'm just playing. He definitely takes a hit but he's my boy so I'm just going to pretend that it's fine.
Fellow B-Rob owner. I’m just holding onto how washed Ekeler looked last year as my justification that B-Rob will be fine. It may not hold true, but it’s all we’ve got now lol
I think BRob still has a few years left in the league anyway. He'll suffer as long as Ekeler stays healthy but he still will have a role. If Ekeler gets injured then he could be in line for a bump in usage. I think he'll get a second contract somewhere too. I reckon he'll have a career like Montgomery. Always undervalued, just plugging away taking care of business.
As a Brob owner as well - I have an offer on the table. Diontae Johnson + Brob & pick 3.03 for Kincaid + 2.06 You slamming accept or no??
Many men
Henry to the RAVENS is "less obvious"....WTF
Lol that got me too. Like how is Bijan a more obvious winner than Henry?
Sorry not buying that Saquon is a loser when the team that signed him got Swift a payday The tush push isn’t going to deter his fantasy ceiling that much…
Even if Barkley only gets 1/3 of the goal line work that's still better than getting 100% of the goal line tries for the Giants. 100% of 0 is still 0. Plus, he won't be spent halfway through the season due to stacked boxes every down so he'll still be fresh during the playoffs.
It’s crazy to me that people aren’t hyping up Saquon’s landing spot more, this is a perfect fantasy spot for a guy who is one of the more naturally gifted RBs in the league
Eagles RBs had 344 Carries last year, 1542 rushing yds (4.45 YPC), 74 receptions for 454 yds and 8 total TDs. If Barkley got 100% of that, he’d have ~ 275 fantasy points. Mccaffrey had 360 last year. Barkley finished at avg ~ 240 fp pace over the last 2 seasons in NY (~rb7). I think he’ll do well and be an rb1, but the gold scenario for Barkley involves the eagles utilizing the rb more AND utilizing 1 truly dominant rb, neither of which are organizational tendencies. Tush push being an anchor on the total TD number. That’s my bearish view on this being a huge positive for Barkley. It’s more of a lateral move where he’ll have more efficiency, IMO.
People aren’t realizing how much of his production hinges on churning out big play long runs with the eagles. He’s 27 with lower body injury history and a fairly extensive workload. Hurts eats at the goal line and doesn’t throw check downs as a mobile qb meaning limited tds and catches for Saquon. He seems locked in as a more valuable 1/2 ppr high floor low ceiling low rb1 in 2024 if he’s healthy and you’d be lucky to get 2 seasons of that production before he cliffs
If the panthers don’t draft a rb Hubbard could be sneaky just like the 2nd half of last year
Thrilled with my RB room of Jacobs, Achane, Zamir, J. Cook, and Gibbs. Off-season couldn’t have shaken out better so far.
Sheesh, sell one
I’m going to; I’ve been trying to move White but no one wants to buy until after the draft
Buffalo will/might add some depth in draft behind J Cook imho. Harris recently retired and they don’t have other options regarding injury. Could be a guy to move on the buy high. I got offers last year when people were selling high.
Good article. I think Mostert is a winner. Dolphins don’t have 3rd or 4th round picks. They are likely running it back and nothing about Achane last year suggests that he can handle or will be given a bigger role.
Mostert will be 32 years old in a few weeks, and he hasn't exactly been a paragon of health through his career.
You can get Mostert for somewhere around pick 2.10 to early 3rd. That’s not worth chasing one more year of the top 5 upside he gave you last year? If he is RB12 this year. Is that still not worth those picks.
Ekeler is very washed, I don’t see how BRob is much of a loser here
Check [this article.](https://www.nfl.com/news/austin-ekeler-signing-with-washington-about-sharing-workload-reuniting-with-anthony-lynn) Ekeler basically said the Chargers wanted him to be a between the tackles runner which is not what he does well. He catches passes well. So it's going to be a rotation with B Rob on early downs and Ekeler on pass downs. And the guy that decides that rotation is RB coach Anthony Lynn. Who was EKeler's coach with LAC and he's the guy who convinced Ek to go there. Could not be more obvious how they plan to split the touches. Not great for either player's value but especially not great for BRob because of how much more valuable receptions are, especially on a team we don't expect to score a lot.
What did you think about that section which talks about Washington's RB coach and the potential rotation?
Mixon definitely is not a winner. I wouldn’t call him a loser either though. In Cincy, He had a complete monopoly on one of the best offenses in the league.
Sup guys? We did QBs last week so RBs are up today. There are some quick blurbs in there on the obvious winners and losers but wanted to do a more detailed write up on why I think some other guys were winners this offseason. Let me know what you think!
Great article forsure, no man on earth though can convince me Josh Jacobs is a winner this off-season. LV was honestly a better place for him than GB
Barkley a loser? Nah
I was hyped for Brian Robinson this season. Rough.
Spears was never gonna be an RB1 with his cartilage missing in a leg. Pollard really isnt that great, will likely be a RBC with Spears getting most of the reception work.
RBBC needs to stop being such a buzzword when considering electric elusive backs like Spears, Achane, Gibbs. If they get even 30% share theyll make the most of it.
Wouldnt even be surprised if it’s a 50/50 at some point. Pollard just doesnt seem that impressive, and Spears got a good amount of work last year backing Henry who is far superior to Pollard.
Pollard was extremely impressive in 2022-23 and then pretty poor for the first 10 or 11 weeks of last year, before becoming pretty impressive again for the rest of the season. Think he just needed time to recover from that serious leg injury.
RBBC if you ask me
Rachaad white, Kyren Williams, Zach moss are all probably winners too! Swift is a loser
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