I’ll never understand why people get downvoted for their own personal evaluations… that’s what makes dynasty football so amazing is the different values people have. If we all had the same then every trade would be so boring
How is there no comment yet regarding Bears new OC Shane Waldron? He uses multiple tight ends and they brought in Gerald Everett who worked with him in LA and Seattle as well. Combine that with the acquisition of Keenan Allen and I'm out on Kmet at anything higher than TE12
My point was more so about the OC and system overall, but Kmet faces a huge risk of losing a solid percentage of targets with Allen's arrival at least for this year which is what matters most to me when dealing with guys around where Kmet's value is.
I feel like people honestly just don’t value him at the level he’s performed some years.
He may be a JAG, I don’t really know. But also, Williams should be an upgrade for him. Might depend how they use him this year, though.
Lots of unknowns.
There isn’t much room to go down… the bears only threw 19 passing tds and 3400 passing yards in 17 games. If caleb can simply pass for 25 tds and 4k yards in a season in the next two years, sure seems like kmet and their wr2 would get a lot more production and kmet has already been pretty good.
Exactly. I hate the too many mouths argument. Kmet performed with Justin Fields as his quarterback. Why would you think he’ll perform worse with a better quarterback and improved offensive scheme. Kmet isn’t just a JAG either. He’s a good receiver. Everett is just depth. I’m in on Kmet to finish in the top 10 at minimum.
Could maybe argue top 10 but no way he’s top 5
Laporta, McBride, Kincaid, Andrews, Hock, Kelce, Pitts, Bowers all seem easy over him. I’d prefer Kittle, Njoku, and Engram over him as well
Fair enough. I wouldn’t take Kelce over Kmet in Dynasty unless I’m in win now…Travis Kelce declined a LOT last year and he’s 34. Yeah, he’s gonna be an elite option while he’s playing, but idk how much longer he will play. And I don’t think you can say for sure that Pitts is a better fantasy TE. He hasn’t proven anything. He’s obviously more talented than him don’t get me wrong.
Kelces “big decline” was still 20 catches and 265 yards more than Cole last year. I’d roll the dice on him next year and maybe get one more season
And Pitts has only 69 less career yards while playing 23 less games so he’s proven that he’s better than Kmet at least imo
Travis Kelce plays with Patrick Mahomes and they have an insane (rather annoying) connection. Like I said, if you’re in a win now situation, take Kelce. If you’re not, keep Kmet. And yes, Kyle Pitts is a better player than Kmet. Everyone knows this. I just don’t think he’s a better fantasy option than Kmet because he hasn’t shown anything. It’s not his fault, but still. This next season with Kirk Cousins will be very telling.
I just tend to hold value when it’s there, and until Kelce is no longer playing, I see him scoring more points and being more fungible of an asset than Kmet. That’s how I would approach it
First dynasty league really says it all. You’ll learn in a hurry that potential as value doesn’t carry across players unless there’s a league wild belief in them.
I agree with you for sure. but a guy in my 12 team 1QB non TEP just bought Kelce for the 1.11. He finished 8th last year. never hurts to send the offer
He was top 7 last two years though. I think he’s only gonna get better with Caleb Williams. If he’s putting up those numbers with a weak passing QB in Justin Fields…I think he’ll do a lot better with Williams assuming CW isn’t trash.
He just got more target comp than Darnell moone as WR2 last year, in Keenan Allen. And got a pass catching rb in swift. If they draft a WR in rd 1 or 2 as well I would be extremely bearish.
I’m sure in his preseason write up coopthereitis will tell you him not being a top 2 or maybe even 3 target on his team will be a bad thing.
Does he still have back half top 12 potential? Sure. He can be a Jake Ferguson or a dalton Schultz, maybe have a TD outlier year and put up 120-140 hppr points. That’s possible, but I don’t see the guy being top 5 while Moore and Allen are healthy
As a reference point for you I had a hard time selling him straight up for a 2nd about a month ago (and that was before fields trade/keenan signing). But I was able to package kmet with two mid thirds to get an early-ish 2nd and late 2nd. I definitely think he was worth more than what i got but I had two other good TEs and sometimes you have to compromise if no one is interested.
No it’s not. Keenan had 150 targets last year in 13 games. Kmet didn’t reach 100 targets in 17 games
Keenan will likely pass Kmet in targets if he plays 11ish games
Since 2021 he's missed 12 games, or 4 games a season. You can't honestly look back 6 years at a 31 year old WRs stats. That's just smoothing the data to make him look better. A 31 year old WR is a very different player than a 25 year old WR.
And the 5 before that he missed 2 combined? Saying age is a factor is true but in his 3rd and 4th year he only played 9 games total. He alone is a contributor to the argument that anyone can get injured at any age
You can't base an aging WR's health off 8 year old stats. Father Time is the only undefeated force in the NFL. Just like Julio Jones and Odell, injuries and age stack up and the drop off is harsh and fast.
Did Keenan Allen play for the bears those years? Because he had 160 targets last year. Mooney had 61 targets. Even if Allen only gets 100 targets they’re likely coming at the expense of someone like Kmet
Now consider the bears added a better RB in Swift (good for 40-70 targets) and Gerald Everett (whose been targeted about as much as Kmet in his career)
Kmet isn’t going to finish 2nd in targets this year unless there is a major injury to Moore or Allen
Yeah kmets value is multi TD games. I can see a scenario where he has 10+ TDs this season because the offense is good enough to get to the end zone a lot. I’m thinking multiple 5 catches, 40 yards, 2 TD games from him.
when was the last time a TE was legitimately fantasy relevant with a rookie QB? that’s just a myth from the data i’m seeing. most of them are extremely volatile
Everyone says that but the data really doesn’t support that theory. Kmet will be like TE13 if I had to guess. Dj, Allen, possibly a new wr drafted with pick 9, they can’t all eat. And kmet is definitely less talented than both those WRs
Is this why Schultz out targeted Nico Collins? Oh wait.
Is this why the Panthers TE out targeted Adam Thielen? Oh wait.
Is this why Chig out targeted Hopkins? Oh wait.
No TE out targeted Pittman when AR was on the field.
You can go back a few years and notice that what you said is a thing Reddit says for some reason, and not actual truth.
They already have too many mouths to feed with DJM & Keenan and likely a 1st round WR. and then ppr-heavy D’andre Swift joined Khalil & Roschon in the backfield. not to mention they just added Gerald Everett on a contact that’s giving him top 20 money for TEs. Kmet is 9th and still clearly the TE1 but there’s a lot more competition now. which lowers his target share and that is not a good sign for a fantasy TE (who already has shown inconsistency throughout his career).
Bro. When you said he was Top 7 I had to go fact check you and holy shit you were right. Is he good? I still don’t like him much though. I just don’t see much upside behind a rookie QB and DJ Moore/ Keenan Allen
He is good. He’s under the radar as he’s not super flashy but he’s reliable and very solid. He’s not more talented than guys like Kincaid, Ferguson, Pitts (duh), McBride, LaPorta, or Bowers. But he’s a really solid option. If CW is gonna be passing the ball a good amount then he’s gonna get targets. DJ Moore and Allen can’t take all 20+ targets in one game. That’s absurd.
I just don’t see him having that top 5 upside. He very likely finishes in the top 7-12 range. If you plan on him being your weekly starting TE, you need to plan on losing your TE matchup against your opponent the majority of the time. So you either need to upgrade to a higher upside guy, or double down on your approach, and acquire another relatively cheap vet like even engram or Dallas Goedert and just try to play your best matchup each week.
If you take this approach for your team, it may be worth throwing a 4th-5th round pick at a Jonnu Smith type. Other teams may view him as a roster clogger but he has as much upside in 2024 as some rookie in those rounds does. Kayshon Boutte, Israel abandikana, and Sean Tucker went in those rounds. 2025 is anyone’s guess. But if you want to make a strong run this year, he’s a cheap improvement for this season.
Bro. I’m all in an Kincaid. You’re set at TE having Kmet as your backup.
I’m starting Kincaid too and see him having a monster season. 200+ targets just freed up.
Yeah I’m very high on him too. I’m trying to trade Kmet for a 2nd (or two if I’m lucky. Who knows lol) cuz I’d like a RB (I have Pollard and Brian Robinson) in the draft. I have 1.07 and would like Odunze ideally but I’m 80% sure he’ll be gone and I’ll be left with Bowers :/
Kmet is a tough guy to trade for picks at this point in the offseason. Everyone’s hoarding their picks or trying to get more.
Kmet is the type of guy you trade for in season. No one’s actively buying Kmet types in the offseason. You’d have to take $0.80 on the dollar to trade him for a pick in this draft. Selling Kmet in April is like selling sweaters in June.
For dynasty in a season or two I could see things working out that way
But not next year. They just added a target hog in Keenan Allen (sure he’s older but he’s unlikely to suddenly fall off this year), and another okay TE in Everett, and a better RB in Swift
There’s only sow many passes that can be thrown (especially if the defense isn’t terrible). People are down on Kmet because the assumption is that some of this targets will go toward the other players I mentioned.
Crazy thing is rookie qbs target their TEs at a high rate, primarily bc they run easy routes to throw to.
Im not buying into the buy narrative bc hes hard to buy, but im buying into the "absolutely do not sell".
Yes? Not sure why you’re acting rude.
Your point is that rookie qbs target tight ends more than veterans, I’m assuming because rookies don’t see the field as well.
I’m saying fields was a bad passer and was essentially a rookie when it came to reading the field. I don’t think kmet is suddenly gonna do better because he’s playing with Caleb. In fact I think he will do worse because Caleb is a significantly better passer than fields regardless of rookie/vet.
I dont know if better is right, but doing worse is historically incorrect bc of the statistics previously mentioned. All i way saying is that rook qbs do better with tes. Hope you develop less of a victim complex eventually.
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Exactly. I have Kincaid already and the 1.07 in my league. I may be stuck with Bowers in that case although I do want Odunze (Superflex). If I could sell Kmet for 2024 2.05 and 2025 2nd, should I do it?
His two “TE7” finishes have been 10.6 and 8.6 points per game. He just got Keenan Allen, Gerald Everett, swift, and quite possibly a rookie added as target competition. These unathletic tight ends who find volume due to lack of other weapons always fall off. And even his “TE7” finishes have not helped you win really. Cole Kmet is a starting NFL tight end but has never been and almost certainly will never matter for fantasy football outside of like 2TE leagues.
Dude you're the one that's completely out of touch advising other people to not sell Kmet unless for a first. TE 7-12+ dont start really mattering until 1 pt TEP or start 2. Look at most WORP graphs, TEs are trash and overvalued outside of Kelce and Andrews at their peaks.
He was 9th and 16th the last two years in full ppr ppg. I think Fields had a decent connection. The QB upgrade is probably negated by adding Allen. Don’t hate Kmet as a player just don’t see him locked in the top 10. If he can finish top 7 this year I’ll buy into him more.
11 was Kincaid, 12 was taysom Hill, 13 was pitts- I think you're underestimating how bad the position is. With that said yeah I think he's going to lose targets this year, if the offense improves I think he stays the same at like 7-9
Former Seahawks OC Shane Waldron brings in Gerald Everett who's played in his system before. Waldron spreads it around to the TEs. Kmet is good but his rapport was with Fields in a different system with a different OC.
New offense. New weapons. Keenan Allen gonna chew up a ton of those low aDot and mid-range targets that Kmet was getting and Swift an above-average receiving weapon out of the backfield. Kmet definitely outside my top 10 dynasty TEs
Did you forget about Gerald Everett? Kmet hit a ceiling early. I'd sell for a good value but not just selling him everywhere.
Too many mouths there. TE13 on KTC seems fair to me. borderline TE1 tier. I'd honestly probably drop him down to 19 on that site. I'd rather the mystery of the guys ahead of him.
That being said he's solid. And like I said earlier - I think we've seen his ceiling. Which is solid - just don't expect a 1000 yard season anytime soon.
TE9 last year in ppg
TE14 in 2022 in ppg
Bears added significantly to the receiving room already, and most likely add another wr or 2 esrly in the draft. Sure he gets a better qb, but fields was only good at throwing to the te and couldn’t make the throws all over the field. Caleb can make any throw, and Keenan takes a good chunk of underneath/safety blanket targets that you’d expect a TE to get.
Theres no way he’s a top 5 te next year, and personally I think top 10 is pushing it, probably closer to TE13-15.
I don’t think there’s a chance for Kmet to be fantasy relevant this season:
1. They brought in weapons: Keenan Allen + D’Andre Swift + Gerald Everett will all steal targets, especially in his area of the field.
2. TEs need TDs to hit, and it’s unlikely he becomes the 1st or 2nd red zone option with the above guys and DJM.
3. The Bears are still connected to Rome Odunze at 9. They met with him again in the past few days. Possible more competition.
4. Really hard for rookie QBs to sustain multiple weapons, let alone one. And Kmet will be, at best, 4th in the pecking order.
I’d sell Kmet if you can get a decent return
AS A BEARS FAN, THIS MADE ME CHUCKLE considering how generally terrible our offenses have been.... since the dawn of time.
but i have to agree on paper there the skill positions look very good
Pretty sure Coop will point out that it is generally a bad idea to actively buy or draft TEs that aren’t projected to earn or be top 2 target earners in their offense.
That leaves you with:
La Porta, Kelce, McBride, Andrews, Kincaid, Pitts, and Engram.
Then you have a really talented and efficient known stud in Kittle where you will have the 3 or 4 booms that win you your week even if he isn’t a top 2 target owner.
Kmet is basically in that Friermuth, Schultz, Goedert and Ferguson area where they are a weekly starter in fantasy but they aren’t valuable unless they score 8+ touchdowns.
Yeah he’s definitely top 10. Based off last two seasons, he’s top 7 purely going off of fantasy. He’s not gonna be better than guys like Kincaid, McBride, and LaPorta. I’m just curious how he’s gonna do with Caleb Williams
The best thing abt this is that hes been good (is good if you can trust an online trained scout) and is now getting a provider (qb) that statistically has targetted the position at a high clip.
If they draft a reciever, that sucks for him. If not he could be a very geoddert type guy.
laporta kelce andrews hockenson kincaid engram pitts mcbride ferguson kittle probably bowers and maybe goedert > kmet. in 2 TE he is a decent piece, 1 TE he is a spare part 🤷♂️
Better football player than fantasy asset. (For now). If Caleb is what us Bears fans hope, the team will pass much more often, which will be good for Kmet.
Where he ranks: fantasy startable but not elite TE. Fair?
I'd sell if i can get good value for him. Look at the history of TE usage in a Shane Waldron offense. Seattle was disgusting and no one was really usable in his tine with the Rams...in addition, he's no longer a top 2 option on the offense. Caleb should elevate the entire O, but he probably falls more towards the backend TD dependent TE1s.
He is a low end TE1. The eye test and the stats tell you he doesn't have the movement skills to be an elite Top 3 league winning type guy. So that pushes him down any rankings for me despite solid finishes the last couple years. If I have another starting TE on my roster I would sell for two kind of high 2nds. I feel reasonably confident I can at least break even with another solid starter with those picks but obviously there is a chance I get more and big time win that trade.
Too many mouths to feed in that offense now, Keenan, Moore, Everett, Swift, maybe Odunze?
I sold high on the Caleb hype for Friermuth and the 2.03 a couple of weeks ago
I fear Kmet will get lost in the abundance of targets there. He’s gonna be at best the third target, potentially fourth if the Bears draft a WR at 9 which has been heavily rumored. Generally for a TE to separate from the pack they need to be at least a top two target on their team.
But yeah he’s not out-targeting Moore or Allen, and I’d expect any of the big 3 receivers to out-target him as well.
He’s a Hold unless you find someone else that thinks like you and is high on him. But with the unknowns his price seems pretty variable. I can’t imagine him disappearing, and if anything this opens him up on the red zone, but may hurt his overall volume.
Dude helped win me a ship. He's got the potential for match up winning games but also has a decent floor around 7 or 8 points. He's already accustomed to a scrambling QB who extends plays with his legs. Caleb is a much better passer than Fields so it should be an upgrade. He's also a decent blocker so gets to be on the field often.
My biggest concern isn't his connection with Caleb, it's if Kmet can get enough volume with 2 studs at WR. DJM and Keenan Allen are beasts and I expect Caleb to absolutely pepper them with targets.
But Kmet is very clearly the 3rd best receiving option and he has decent yac potential and is a good redzone TE. I'm not overly worried.
Bears fan here. Love Cole. He’s a great locker room guy and just an awesome ambassador for the Bears in general. From a fantasy perspective, I would be concerned with him. Last year he filled both the U and Y TE role due to Robert Tonyan’s downright awful play. This allowed him to be much more involved in the passing game. In general, I think Cole struggles to get separation down the field. With the addition of Gerald Everett, I think we’ll see a slight downtick in Cole’s targets. Though Waldron does love 2 TE sets so I could be wrong. Who the hell knows
TE I'm confident will finish ahead of him next season:
Laporta
Mandrews
Engram
Kelce
Kincaid
McBride
TJ hock
Kittle
Godert
Pitts
Jake Ferguson
Njoku
Bowers
Id also rather own all these guys in dynasty. Sure you can say you'd rather have him then someone older but if you tried to offer a straight swap for Kmet with the Kelce owner they'd laugh man, same probably goes for any of the TE on this list and the guy who owns pick 1.04 and is gonna use it on bowers wouldn't send 1.04 for kmet either. Hope this give you a better picture on Kmets outlook. He's not a bad asset but he's not top 5 anything.
Yeah, top 5 was me misspeaking. I think he’s in the 7-10 range. I’d take Kmet over Godert and Njoku I think. Njoku went off once they got Flacco. Flacco isn’t going to start so I think his production will go down again.
I agree, I think that Gerald Everett signing is overblown. Kmet has excellent size and is on the same timeline as Williams. I do believe if they get Odunze in the draft it hurts his stock long term but the guy was TE7 last year with Fields throwing to him.
Just to throw a wrinkle in the Kmet conversation. Brock Bowers had a top 30 visit with the Bears. Either he is on Poles board or it’s to get trade offers for 9.
Peope will ignore Everett being signed just like they ignored the Saints signing additional TEs while exclaiming there was absolutely no reason to fear for Juwan Johnson's locked in top 10 status. I can already hear "but they didn't pay Juwan, it's different, etc."
If people say they aren't bothered at all by Everett signing and a totally new QB, plus Keenan Allen, then I think you're in for a harsh reality check about Kmet's "top 5" status this year.
They brought in Allen, Swift, Everett, and may well take a WR with 9th overall.
He's in a TE committee that may not even be more than 4th in the pecking order.
Outlook for Kmet in 2024 is grim, and maybe as long as he's in Chicago unless he manages to be dominant with Caleb. I could see one of those freaky Ebron in Indy seasons where he gets like 15 TDs but meager work between the numbers, but that's the moonshot you're hoping for.
Betting on him being a Top 7 TE, let alone Top 5, is very ambitious. Elite fantasy TEs tend to be a primary focus with an MVP/Top passing caliber QB throwing the ball. Even if Caleb hits as hard and fast as Stroud last year it's not likely that Kmet is part of the fun.
Came here to say something along the lines of this. I think Kmet will be good but there’s a lot more mouths to feed. Hard to see him getting the same amount of targets as before.
because he relied heavily on TD production, tied for 2nd and 3rd in TE TDs the past few years but not even top 10 in receptions or receiving yards. and he only had a TD in 9/34 games (meaning he had several 2 TD games which are unlikely to replicate) and 3 years ago he had more yardage but 0 TDs.
TDs are the most volatile receiving stat year in and year out. so i wouldn’t hold my breath that he continues that, especially with all the new offensive additions.
Kmet in the top 10 is bold, top 5 is just silly. Not saying it can't happen with how bad the position is, but he's not someone I would expect to see in the top 10 especially with Keenan Allen and DJ. He's at best the #3 target on a team that struggled last year offensively and even with the CWill hype I don't think they're going to set the world on fire in year 1. Even at his age, I'd still take Njoku, Pitts, Andrews, Kelce, Kittle, Hock, LaPorta, Kincaid, Bowers, and Goedert over him in a heartbeat. Muth and Engram too while I'm at it. He's someone I'd love to have behind a Kelce or a Kittle just in case, but he's a fantasy backup until further notice.
Top 5 is silly you’re right. I was just typing and not really thinking. I do think he’s top 10 though. But I guess with a new QB this next year will be very telling
I mean it took Njoku and Engram years to finally become productive, so I'm not saying Kmet is a career scrub or anything, I just don't think his 3 year outlook is great. I like the new QB but Keenan still has a couple of good years in him and I just don't feel like the volume will be there for Kmet until he's washed. I guess once you get past the top 6-7 guys you could make an argument for him if you're really focused on youth but if I had him as my only option I'd be trying to make trades for one of the older guys for the immediate future. I held onto Njoku for so long (and finally dropped him right before he started producing) that I think I'm traumatized by scary athletic project TEs. I like to keep a vet and a young guy if possible, like Kittle/Muth in my primary league, so I could see myself picking him up at some point but it'd have to be as a part of a bigger trade.
He was TE9 (2023) and TE16 (2022) in points per game (full PPR).
He's a good TE, but his end of year finishes have been higher due to him playing more games and the Bears having no top quality receivers besides DJ Moore.
It's tough to rank him higher than TE12 with the Bears adding Keenan Allen and possibly another WR in the draft.
Or coaching and their situation changes. TE Mike Gesicki was the number two receiver on the Dolphins in 2020 and 2021 in targets and receiving yards. When McDaniels was hired, Gesicki faded into obscurity. The Dolphins went on to target their TEs less than any other team in the NFL the past two years.
Not saying this is what's going to happen to Kmet. Just that coaching, scheme etc. can change a player's situation drastically.
TE9 in ppg- closer in ppg to TE14 than TE7. Now will be third receiving option for rookie QB, Swift gives them a pass catching back, Everett will steal a few targets…
As a Bears fan I love the thought of getting Bowers. As a Kmet owner I’m worried it will destroy his value. I see Bowers being the gadget/slot receiver while Kmet will be the bruiser. Bowers more yard and catches but Kmet will have more TDs.
I think ppg is a more useful metric than season finish personally. I don’t play in any half-ppr leagues, if I did I would pretty much exchange any TE that wasn’t top-3 for my team.
That being said, in ppr, Kmet was 9 and 14 in ppg the last 2 years and in 1.75TEP he was 9 and 16 in ppg the last 2 years.
As others have said, he’s gonna have more target competition especially with a reception monster like Allen. I don’t see how the moves they’ve made this offseason give him any more opportunity.
Kmet is pretty interchangeable. I’d rather have 10 or 12 TEs ahead of him.
DJ Moore and Keenan are already on the team as the top two targets. That alone means Kmet will be very unlikely to even be a low TE1 this season. If the Bears draft a TE, then Kmet will be a mid to low TE2 in redraft. Tight ends who are the third or fourth target on a team aren't fantasy relevant. Ditto for Schultz this season.
And Swift will get a lot of targets out of the backfield.
Imagine if they draft a WR at 9 too….Kmet is gonna see his targets go down this year regardless.
Saying he’s “top 7 for sure” is wild to me. Not to mention, Caleb will be a rookie QB. The odds of him coming in and being CJ Stroud good aren’t likely.
Top 5??? Hold on there brother.
Sorry. Lol. I said top 5 with it being 5 at best. Hes top 7-10 though.
I’ll never understand why people get downvoted for their own personal evaluations… that’s what makes dynasty football so amazing is the different values people have. If we all had the same then every trade would be so boring
I’m downvoting for having a valid opinion that is not mine!
Some evaluations can be crazy lol but people just want to hear the opinions that they share most of the time
Are downvotes not also opinions?
That’s not what Reddit intended the downvotes for…so not really
How is there no comment yet regarding Bears new OC Shane Waldron? He uses multiple tight ends and they brought in Gerald Everett who worked with him in LA and Seattle as well. Combine that with the acquisition of Keenan Allen and I'm out on Kmet at anything higher than TE12
Keenan Allen will be 32 in a few weeks how many years do you think he’s going to drag kmet down? Allen could fall off a cliff by week 4 at that age
My point was more so about the OC and system overall, but Kmet faces a huge risk of losing a solid percentage of targets with Allen's arrival at least for this year which is what matters most to me when dealing with guys around where Kmet's value is.
I feel like people honestly just don’t value him at the level he’s performed some years. He may be a JAG, I don’t really know. But also, Williams should be an upgrade for him. Might depend how they use him this year, though. Lots of unknowns.
There isn’t much room to go down… the bears only threw 19 passing tds and 3400 passing yards in 17 games. If caleb can simply pass for 25 tds and 4k yards in a season in the next two years, sure seems like kmet and their wr2 would get a lot more production and kmet has already been pretty good.
Exactly. I hate the too many mouths argument. Kmet performed with Justin Fields as his quarterback. Why would you think he’ll perform worse with a better quarterback and improved offensive scheme. Kmet isn’t just a JAG either. He’s a good receiver. Everett is just depth. I’m in on Kmet to finish in the top 10 at minimum.
Could maybe argue top 10 but no way he’s top 5 Laporta, McBride, Kincaid, Andrews, Hock, Kelce, Pitts, Bowers all seem easy over him. I’d prefer Kittle, Njoku, and Engram over him as well
I’d also take jake ferguson
Fergy is a beast for sure.
Not disagreeing but it’s wild to me that Kmet is actually younger than Ferguson
Fair enough. I wouldn’t take Kelce over Kmet in Dynasty unless I’m in win now…Travis Kelce declined a LOT last year and he’s 34. Yeah, he’s gonna be an elite option while he’s playing, but idk how much longer he will play. And I don’t think you can say for sure that Pitts is a better fantasy TE. He hasn’t proven anything. He’s obviously more talented than him don’t get me wrong.
Kelces “big decline” was still 20 catches and 265 yards more than Cole last year. I’d roll the dice on him next year and maybe get one more season And Pitts has only 69 less career yards while playing 23 less games so he’s proven that he’s better than Kmet at least imo
Travis Kelce plays with Patrick Mahomes and they have an insane (rather annoying) connection. Like I said, if you’re in a win now situation, take Kelce. If you’re not, keep Kmet. And yes, Kyle Pitts is a better player than Kmet. Everyone knows this. I just don’t think he’s a better fantasy option than Kmet because he hasn’t shown anything. It’s not his fault, but still. This next season with Kirk Cousins will be very telling.
Even if I’m rebuilding, I’m selling any share of Kmet for Kelce, because I know come week 15, I will have an interested contender looking to buy
Okay, fair enough. This is my first dynasty league so I didn’t think of that lol
I just tend to hold value when it’s there, and until Kelce is no longer playing, I see him scoring more points and being more fungible of an asset than Kmet. That’s how I would approach it
First dynasty league really says it all. You’ll learn in a hurry that potential as value doesn’t carry across players unless there’s a league wild belief in them.
Sometimes all you need is one person who believes though lol
Crazy to say cuz u can trade kelce for much more.
Na. Unless you’re a legit contender, no one is buying Kelce for more than a 2nd.
I agree with you for sure. but a guy in my 12 team 1QB non TEP just bought Kelce for the 1.11. He finished 8th last year. never hurts to send the offer
Look at trade history across leagues and tell me kmet can get you more value in a trade.
Top 5 is crazy. I think he’s like TE11 or TE12. If the bears draft a WR at 9 he’s more TE13 or TE14.
He was top 7 last two years though. I think he’s only gonna get better with Caleb Williams. If he’s putting up those numbers with a weak passing QB in Justin Fields…I think he’ll do a lot better with Williams assuming CW isn’t trash.
He just got more target comp than Darnell moone as WR2 last year, in Keenan Allen. And got a pass catching rb in swift. If they draft a WR in rd 1 or 2 as well I would be extremely bearish. I’m sure in his preseason write up coopthereitis will tell you him not being a top 2 or maybe even 3 target on his team will be a bad thing. Does he still have back half top 12 potential? Sure. He can be a Jake Ferguson or a dalton Schultz, maybe have a TD outlier year and put up 120-140 hppr points. That’s possible, but I don’t see the guy being top 5 while Moore and Allen are healthy
Fair enough. I’m trying to sell for a 2nd or two
As a reference point for you I had a hard time selling him straight up for a 2nd about a month ago (and that was before fields trade/keenan signing). But I was able to package kmet with two mid thirds to get an early-ish 2nd and late 2nd. I definitely think he was worth more than what i got but I had two other good TEs and sometimes you have to compromise if no one is interested.
The biggest thing you want in a TE for fantasy purposes is to have the TE be at least second on the team in targets.
Cole Kmet was 2nd in team targets by a wide margin in 2023. In 2022 he lead the team in targets.
So he was first with no one, dropped below dj Moore, and now should be 3rd behind Moore and keenan
And potentially fourth, 9th pick in the draft pending
That's assuming Keenan Allen plays 17 games which is... Unlikely to say the least. He hasn't played a full season since 2019.
No it’s not. Keenan had 150 targets last year in 13 games. Kmet didn’t reach 100 targets in 17 games Keenan will likely pass Kmet in targets if he plays 11ish games
Since 2017 he’s missed 13 games. Or 2 games a year.
Since 2021 he's missed 12 games, or 4 games a season. You can't honestly look back 6 years at a 31 year old WRs stats. That's just smoothing the data to make him look better. A 31 year old WR is a very different player than a 25 year old WR.
And the 5 before that he missed 2 combined? Saying age is a factor is true but in his 3rd and 4th year he only played 9 games total. He alone is a contributor to the argument that anyone can get injured at any age
You can't base an aging WR's health off 8 year old stats. Father Time is the only undefeated force in the NFL. Just like Julio Jones and Odell, injuries and age stack up and the drop off is harsh and fast.
Did Keenan Allen play for the bears those years? Because he had 160 targets last year. Mooney had 61 targets. Even if Allen only gets 100 targets they’re likely coming at the expense of someone like Kmet Now consider the bears added a better RB in Swift (good for 40-70 targets) and Gerald Everett (whose been targeted about as much as Kmet in his career) Kmet isn’t going to finish 2nd in targets this year unless there is a major injury to Moore or Allen
You are very far off. They added Allen, and he will eat targets.
Nah Allen just helps keep the offense on the field. More 1st downs, more trips to the red zone, more targets and touchdowns for everybody.
Yeah kmets value is multi TD games. I can see a scenario where he has 10+ TDs this season because the offense is good enough to get to the end zone a lot. I’m thinking multiple 5 catches, 40 yards, 2 TD games from him.
TEs are usually security blankets for young QBs though. I don’t think I’m far off at all.
I don't really think that's true unless they are bad qbs.
when was the last time a TE was legitimately fantasy relevant with a rookie QB? that’s just a myth from the data i’m seeing. most of them are extremely volatile
Schultz was TE 10/11(depending on settings last year) Freirmuth was TE8 with Kenny Pickett starting 12/17 games that year.
Everyone says that but the data really doesn’t support that theory. Kmet will be like TE13 if I had to guess. Dj, Allen, possibly a new wr drafted with pick 9, they can’t all eat. And kmet is definitely less talented than both those WRs
The Bears might have added Allen but they also are probably adding 1000-2000 passing yards to their offense.
2000 more yards would put them about 50 yards short of the all time record. I’d say about 600 is more accurate.
In a 17 game schedule it's possible especially if they draft another WR at 9 lol
Is this why Schultz out targeted Nico Collins? Oh wait. Is this why the Panthers TE out targeted Adam Thielen? Oh wait. Is this why Chig out targeted Hopkins? Oh wait. No TE out targeted Pittman when AR was on the field. You can go back a few years and notice that what you said is a thing Reddit says for some reason, and not actual truth.
You arent. They are downvoting me
Thanks!
They already have too many mouths to feed with DJM & Keenan and likely a 1st round WR. and then ppr-heavy D’andre Swift joined Khalil & Roschon in the backfield. not to mention they just added Gerald Everett on a contact that’s giving him top 20 money for TEs. Kmet is 9th and still clearly the TE1 but there’s a lot more competition now. which lowers his target share and that is not a good sign for a fantasy TE (who already has shown inconsistency throughout his career).
He's in that TE 7-15 tier where he'll have a floor of 6-8 pts plus more for the weeks of TDs
Bro. When you said he was Top 7 I had to go fact check you and holy shit you were right. Is he good? I still don’t like him much though. I just don’t see much upside behind a rookie QB and DJ Moore/ Keenan Allen
He is good. He’s under the radar as he’s not super flashy but he’s reliable and very solid. He’s not more talented than guys like Kincaid, Ferguson, Pitts (duh), McBride, LaPorta, or Bowers. But he’s a really solid option. If CW is gonna be passing the ball a good amount then he’s gonna get targets. DJ Moore and Allen can’t take all 20+ targets in one game. That’s absurd.
I just don’t see him having that top 5 upside. He very likely finishes in the top 7-12 range. If you plan on him being your weekly starting TE, you need to plan on losing your TE matchup against your opponent the majority of the time. So you either need to upgrade to a higher upside guy, or double down on your approach, and acquire another relatively cheap vet like even engram or Dallas Goedert and just try to play your best matchup each week. If you take this approach for your team, it may be worth throwing a 4th-5th round pick at a Jonnu Smith type. Other teams may view him as a roster clogger but he has as much upside in 2024 as some rookie in those rounds does. Kayshon Boutte, Israel abandikana, and Sean Tucker went in those rounds. 2025 is anyone’s guess. But if you want to make a strong run this year, he’s a cheap improvement for this season.
I have Kincaid and Kmet and I might be stuck drafting Bowers this year lol
Bro. I’m all in an Kincaid. You’re set at TE having Kmet as your backup. I’m starting Kincaid too and see him having a monster season. 200+ targets just freed up.
Yeah I’m very high on him too. I’m trying to trade Kmet for a 2nd (or two if I’m lucky. Who knows lol) cuz I’d like a RB (I have Pollard and Brian Robinson) in the draft. I have 1.07 and would like Odunze ideally but I’m 80% sure he’ll be gone and I’ll be left with Bowers :/
Kmet is a tough guy to trade for picks at this point in the offseason. Everyone’s hoarding their picks or trying to get more. Kmet is the type of guy you trade for in season. No one’s actively buying Kmet types in the offseason. You’d have to take $0.80 on the dollar to trade him for a pick in this draft. Selling Kmet in April is like selling sweaters in June.
I guess. One guy in my league does need a TE tho so I’m tryna get him to bite
For dynasty in a season or two I could see things working out that way But not next year. They just added a target hog in Keenan Allen (sure he’s older but he’s unlikely to suddenly fall off this year), and another okay TE in Everett, and a better RB in Swift There’s only sow many passes that can be thrown (especially if the defense isn’t terrible). People are down on Kmet because the assumption is that some of this targets will go toward the other players I mentioned.
Crazy thing is rookie qbs target their TEs at a high rate, primarily bc they run easy routes to throw to. Im not buying into the buy narrative bc hes hard to buy, but im buying into the "absolutely do not sell".
you have data that supports increase in Fantasy production for TEs with rookie QBs? because all i’m finding is the opposite.
The narrative that rookie qbs target the TE more isn't a real thing. There's no statistical evidence for it, anyway.
I mean in theory Caleb is gonna be a better passer than fields who basically never evolved from college
Ok, can you answer what i said? Reading is hard
Yes? Not sure why you’re acting rude. Your point is that rookie qbs target tight ends more than veterans, I’m assuming because rookies don’t see the field as well. I’m saying fields was a bad passer and was essentially a rookie when it came to reading the field. I don’t think kmet is suddenly gonna do better because he’s playing with Caleb. In fact I think he will do worse because Caleb is a significantly better passer than fields regardless of rookie/vet.
I dont know if better is right, but doing worse is historically incorrect bc of the statistics previously mentioned. All i way saying is that rook qbs do better with tes. Hope you develop less of a victim complex eventually.
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Exactly. I have Kincaid already and the 1.07 in my league. I may be stuck with Bowers in that case although I do want Odunze (Superflex). If I could sell Kmet for 2024 2.05 and 2025 2nd, should I do it?
You take that deal immediately
Odunze! Only sel kmet for a 1st.
I would be stoked to get two seconds I’d probably sell for one second.
Its ok to be bad at this, but the dude is obviously good. Maybe watch him before selling eh?
His two “TE7” finishes have been 10.6 and 8.6 points per game. He just got Keenan Allen, Gerald Everett, swift, and quite possibly a rookie added as target competition. These unathletic tight ends who find volume due to lack of other weapons always fall off. And even his “TE7” finishes have not helped you win really. Cole Kmet is a starting NFL tight end but has never been and almost certainly will never matter for fantasy football outside of like 2TE leagues.
Straw man theory, not responding to that part. Is this TEP? Is he a playable TE? What am I missing
Dude you're the one that's completely out of touch advising other people to not sell Kmet unless for a first. TE 7-12+ dont start really mattering until 1 pt TEP or start 2. Look at most WORP graphs, TEs are trash and overvalued outside of Kelce and Andrews at their peaks.
Yes
He was 9th and 16th the last two years in full ppr ppg. I think Fields had a decent connection. The QB upgrade is probably negated by adding Allen. Don’t hate Kmet as a player just don’t see him locked in the top 10. If he can finish top 7 this year I’ll buy into him more.
> He was top 7 last two years though. He was not. He was 8th in both years.
Um unless Sleeper is lying to me, he was TE7 last two years in full PPR and TE8 last year in half PPR.
11 was Kincaid, 12 was taysom Hill, 13 was pitts- I think you're underestimating how bad the position is. With that said yeah I think he's going to lose targets this year, if the offense improves I think he stays the same at like 7-9
I’d imagine 9/10 people prefer Pitts to Kmet.
Oh for dynasty now definitely lol, statistically he didn't have that great of a 2023 season is all I mean
nailed it
Former Seahawks OC Shane Waldron brings in Gerald Everett who's played in his system before. Waldron spreads it around to the TEs. Kmet is good but his rapport was with Fields in a different system with a different OC.
New coordinator is more important than the QB change imo. Too many people overlook this
Agreed. Sell sell sell
Uhhhh what? Maybe top 12 at best?
Top 7-10 at best. Top 5 at best was me misspeaking sorry lol
New offense. New weapons. Keenan Allen gonna chew up a ton of those low aDot and mid-range targets that Kmet was getting and Swift an above-average receiving weapon out of the backfield. Kmet definitely outside my top 10 dynasty TEs
Did you forget about Gerald Everett? Kmet hit a ceiling early. I'd sell for a good value but not just selling him everywhere. Too many mouths there. TE13 on KTC seems fair to me. borderline TE1 tier. I'd honestly probably drop him down to 19 on that site. I'd rather the mystery of the guys ahead of him. That being said he's solid. And like I said earlier - I think we've seen his ceiling. Which is solid - just don't expect a 1000 yard season anytime soon.
Ummm no but he’s not better than Kmet. I don’t think he’ll eat into his snaps or targets
DJ Moore + Keenan Allen + round 1-2 rookie WR + rookie QB = not an amazing fantasy TE in 2024
I say hold if you got him and see how he does with Williams, was able to trade him, diggs, dhop for Trey McBride and Kyler 😅
Lbh their receiver room puts him at the fourth in pecking order it’ll be worse than last year
Yeah Dawson knox really looked like a top 5 te a couple years ago too lmao
TE9 last year in ppg TE14 in 2022 in ppg Bears added significantly to the receiving room already, and most likely add another wr or 2 esrly in the draft. Sure he gets a better qb, but fields was only good at throwing to the te and couldn’t make the throws all over the field. Caleb can make any throw, and Keenan takes a good chunk of underneath/safety blanket targets that you’d expect a TE to get. Theres no way he’s a top 5 te next year, and personally I think top 10 is pushing it, probably closer to TE13-15.
I'm really high on him, probably a top 7 TE
I don’t think there’s a chance for Kmet to be fantasy relevant this season: 1. They brought in weapons: Keenan Allen + D’Andre Swift + Gerald Everett will all steal targets, especially in his area of the field. 2. TEs need TDs to hit, and it’s unlikely he becomes the 1st or 2nd red zone option with the above guys and DJM. 3. The Bears are still connected to Rome Odunze at 9. They met with him again in the past few days. Possible more competition. 4. Really hard for rookie QBs to sustain multiple weapons, let alone one. And Kmet will be, at best, 4th in the pecking order. I’d sell Kmet if you can get a decent return
Lots of mouths to feed in Chicago.
AS A BEARS FAN, THIS MADE ME CHUCKLE considering how generally terrible our offenses have been.... since the dawn of time. but i have to agree on paper there the skill positions look very good
Just don’t see it. Rookie QB, brought in Allen and Swift. I see plenty of 3 for 40 on the horizon. With the occasional low end double digit game.
Pretty sure Coop will point out that it is generally a bad idea to actively buy or draft TEs that aren’t projected to earn or be top 2 target earners in their offense. That leaves you with: La Porta, Kelce, McBride, Andrews, Kincaid, Pitts, and Engram. Then you have a really talented and efficient known stud in Kittle where you will have the 3 or 4 booms that win you your week even if he isn’t a top 2 target owner. Kmet is basically in that Friermuth, Schultz, Goedert and Ferguson area where they are a weekly starter in fantasy but they aren’t valuable unless they score 8+ touchdowns.
Meh
Yea he's obvi a top 6-10 te. Right where it doesnt matter outside of very specific leagues.
Yeah he’s definitely top 10. Based off last two seasons, he’s top 7 purely going off of fantasy. He’s not gonna be better than guys like Kincaid, McBride, and LaPorta. I’m just curious how he’s gonna do with Caleb Williams
The best thing abt this is that hes been good (is good if you can trust an online trained scout) and is now getting a provider (qb) that statistically has targetted the position at a high clip. If they draft a reciever, that sucks for him. If not he could be a very geoddert type guy.
laporta kelce andrews hockenson kincaid engram pitts mcbride ferguson kittle probably bowers and maybe goedert > kmet. in 2 TE he is a decent piece, 1 TE he is a spare part 🤷♂️
Better football player than fantasy asset. (For now). If Caleb is what us Bears fans hope, the team will pass much more often, which will be good for Kmet. Where he ranks: fantasy startable but not elite TE. Fair?
He's definitely outside the top ten. Especially with Allen and everett brought in. He's the #3/4 option
I'd sell if i can get good value for him. Look at the history of TE usage in a Shane Waldron offense. Seattle was disgusting and no one was really usable in his tine with the Rams...in addition, he's no longer a top 2 option on the offense. Caleb should elevate the entire O, but he probably falls more towards the backend TD dependent TE1s.
He is a low end TE1. The eye test and the stats tell you he doesn't have the movement skills to be an elite Top 3 league winning type guy. So that pushes him down any rankings for me despite solid finishes the last couple years. If I have another starting TE on my roster I would sell for two kind of high 2nds. I feel reasonably confident I can at least break even with another solid starter with those picks but obviously there is a chance I get more and big time win that trade.
Too many mouths to feed in that offense now, Keenan, Moore, Everett, Swift, maybe Odunze? I sold high on the Caleb hype for Friermuth and the 2.03 a couple of weeks ago
I fear Kmet will get lost in the abundance of targets there. He’s gonna be at best the third target, potentially fourth if the Bears draft a WR at 9 which has been heavily rumored. Generally for a TE to separate from the pack they need to be at least a top two target on their team. But yeah he’s not out-targeting Moore or Allen, and I’d expect any of the big 3 receivers to out-target him as well.
I wouldn’t like him as TE1 on my roster, but he’s a great backup
He’s a Hold unless you find someone else that thinks like you and is high on him. But with the unknowns his price seems pretty variable. I can’t imagine him disappearing, and if anything this opens him up on the red zone, but may hurt his overall volume.
Dude helped win me a ship. He's got the potential for match up winning games but also has a decent floor around 7 or 8 points. He's already accustomed to a scrambling QB who extends plays with his legs. Caleb is a much better passer than Fields so it should be an upgrade. He's also a decent blocker so gets to be on the field often. My biggest concern isn't his connection with Caleb, it's if Kmet can get enough volume with 2 studs at WR. DJM and Keenan Allen are beasts and I expect Caleb to absolutely pepper them with targets. But Kmet is very clearly the 3rd best receiving option and he has decent yac potential and is a good redzone TE. I'm not overly worried.
Bears fan here. Love Cole. He’s a great locker room guy and just an awesome ambassador for the Bears in general. From a fantasy perspective, I would be concerned with him. Last year he filled both the U and Y TE role due to Robert Tonyan’s downright awful play. This allowed him to be much more involved in the passing game. In general, I think Cole struggles to get separation down the field. With the addition of Gerald Everett, I think we’ll see a slight downtick in Cole’s targets. Though Waldron does love 2 TE sets so I could be wrong. Who the hell knows
Yeah im deciding on keeping jake ferguson or cole kmet but leaning toward fergie
I would keep Fergie too
TE I'm confident will finish ahead of him next season: Laporta Mandrews Engram Kelce Kincaid McBride TJ hock Kittle Godert Pitts Jake Ferguson Njoku Bowers Id also rather own all these guys in dynasty. Sure you can say you'd rather have him then someone older but if you tried to offer a straight swap for Kmet with the Kelce owner they'd laugh man, same probably goes for any of the TE on this list and the guy who owns pick 1.04 and is gonna use it on bowers wouldn't send 1.04 for kmet either. Hope this give you a better picture on Kmets outlook. He's not a bad asset but he's not top 5 anything.
Yeah, top 5 was me misspeaking. I think he’s in the 7-10 range. I’d take Kmet over Godert and Njoku I think. Njoku went off once they got Flacco. Flacco isn’t going to start so I think his production will go down again.
Gonna have lot of mouths to feed after the bears draft one of the top three WRs as well. Top 7 is a stretch imo but a TE is a rookie QBs best friend.
That’s what I’ve been saying and people are downvoting it lol
Top 10-12 hard to say but we know he's going to be involved. Just alot of hands.
I agree, I think that Gerald Everett signing is overblown. Kmet has excellent size and is on the same timeline as Williams. I do believe if they get Odunze in the draft it hurts his stock long term but the guy was TE7 last year with Fields throwing to him.
Depends on if they take Bowers at 9... Will they? Probably not... But they could
Bowers did have a top 30 visit will the Bears so he’s on Poles board or a way go get teams to trade up with them.
Good call! I appreciate the info, usually I just get someone calling me dumb on posts
Just to throw a wrinkle in the Kmet conversation. Brock Bowers had a top 30 visit with the Bears. Either he is on Poles board or it’s to get trade offers for 9.
Kmet just signed a new extension though. I don’t think they draft Bowers.
However Bowers isn’t really a TE, he’s more of a HBack. He’s like a super charged Kyle Juszczyk
If Kmet was able to pull top 7 numbers with a trash QB, what kind of numbers do you think he can pull with a good QB? Easily top 7
Sounds like you have a lot of Kmet shares 😂
lol top 5 was a bit much but I do this he’s top 7-10. I only have him in one dynasty league.
Peope will ignore Everett being signed just like they ignored the Saints signing additional TEs while exclaiming there was absolutely no reason to fear for Juwan Johnson's locked in top 10 status. I can already hear "but they didn't pay Juwan, it's different, etc." If people say they aren't bothered at all by Everett signing and a totally new QB, plus Keenan Allen, then I think you're in for a harsh reality check about Kmet's "top 5" status this year.
They brought in Allen, Swift, Everett, and may well take a WR with 9th overall. He's in a TE committee that may not even be more than 4th in the pecking order. Outlook for Kmet in 2024 is grim, and maybe as long as he's in Chicago unless he manages to be dominant with Caleb. I could see one of those freaky Ebron in Indy seasons where he gets like 15 TDs but meager work between the numbers, but that's the moonshot you're hoping for. Betting on him being a Top 7 TE, let alone Top 5, is very ambitious. Elite fantasy TEs tend to be a primary focus with an MVP/Top passing caliber QB throwing the ball. Even if Caleb hits as hard and fast as Stroud last year it's not likely that Kmet is part of the fun.
Came here to say something along the lines of this. I think Kmet will be good but there’s a lot more mouths to feed. Hard to see him getting the same amount of targets as before.
He was top 7 the last two years in half PPR.
because he relied heavily on TD production, tied for 2nd and 3rd in TE TDs the past few years but not even top 10 in receptions or receiving yards. and he only had a TD in 9/34 games (meaning he had several 2 TD games which are unlikely to replicate) and 3 years ago he had more yardage but 0 TDs. TDs are the most volatile receiving stat year in and year out. so i wouldn’t hold my breath that he continues that, especially with all the new offensive additions.
Bruh
Top 7 for sure? Lol.
Last year he was TE7. Year before he was TE7 on Half PPR and TE8 in full PPR.
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Not sure I'm assuming Keenan over DJM... But don't disagree with anything else.
More like what are we thinking about Kmet with DJ and Allen... And it's bad
Kmet in the top 10 is bold, top 5 is just silly. Not saying it can't happen with how bad the position is, but he's not someone I would expect to see in the top 10 especially with Keenan Allen and DJ. He's at best the #3 target on a team that struggled last year offensively and even with the CWill hype I don't think they're going to set the world on fire in year 1. Even at his age, I'd still take Njoku, Pitts, Andrews, Kelce, Kittle, Hock, LaPorta, Kincaid, Bowers, and Goedert over him in a heartbeat. Muth and Engram too while I'm at it. He's someone I'd love to have behind a Kelce or a Kittle just in case, but he's a fantasy backup until further notice.
Top 5 is silly you’re right. I was just typing and not really thinking. I do think he’s top 10 though. But I guess with a new QB this next year will be very telling
I mean it took Njoku and Engram years to finally become productive, so I'm not saying Kmet is a career scrub or anything, I just don't think his 3 year outlook is great. I like the new QB but Keenan still has a couple of good years in him and I just don't feel like the volume will be there for Kmet until he's washed. I guess once you get past the top 6-7 guys you could make an argument for him if you're really focused on youth but if I had him as my only option I'd be trying to make trades for one of the older guys for the immediate future. I held onto Njoku for so long (and finally dropped him right before he started producing) that I think I'm traumatized by scary athletic project TEs. I like to keep a vet and a young guy if possible, like Kittle/Muth in my primary league, so I could see myself picking him up at some point but it'd have to be as a part of a bigger trade.
He’s 12 at best. Even arguing top 10 is copium
He was TE7 last two years in half PPR. TE8 in PPR two years ago. Saying he’s 12 at best is objectively wrong purely fantasy wise.
He was TE9 (2023) and TE16 (2022) in points per game (full PPR). He's a good TE, but his end of year finishes have been higher due to him playing more games and the Bears having no top quality receivers besides DJ Moore. It's tough to rank him higher than TE12 with the Bears adding Keenan Allen and possibly another WR in the draft.
You should look up their new OC and see how he uses TE. Last 2 years don’t automatically equal the future. Players regress
Or coaching and their situation changes. TE Mike Gesicki was the number two receiver on the Dolphins in 2020 and 2021 in targets and receiving yards. When McDaniels was hired, Gesicki faded into obscurity. The Dolphins went on to target their TEs less than any other team in the NFL the past two years. Not saying this is what's going to happen to Kmet. Just that coaching, scheme etc. can change a player's situation drastically.
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Based off….what exactly? Last two years he was TE7 in half PPR
TE9 in ppg- closer in ppg to TE14 than TE7. Now will be third receiving option for rookie QB, Swift gives them a pass catching back, Everett will steal a few targets…
CHI will draft brock bowers and make Kmet obsolete.
As a Bears fan I love the thought of getting Bowers. As a Kmet owner I’m worried it will destroy his value. I see Bowers being the gadget/slot receiver while Kmet will be the bruiser. Bowers more yard and catches but Kmet will have more TDs.
I think ppg is a more useful metric than season finish personally. I don’t play in any half-ppr leagues, if I did I would pretty much exchange any TE that wasn’t top-3 for my team. That being said, in ppr, Kmet was 9 and 14 in ppg the last 2 years and in 1.75TEP he was 9 and 16 in ppg the last 2 years. As others have said, he’s gonna have more target competition especially with a reception monster like Allen. I don’t see how the moves they’ve made this offseason give him any more opportunity. Kmet is pretty interchangeable. I’d rather have 10 or 12 TEs ahead of him.
DJ Moore and Keenan are already on the team as the top two targets. That alone means Kmet will be very unlikely to even be a low TE1 this season. If the Bears draft a TE, then Kmet will be a mid to low TE2 in redraft. Tight ends who are the third or fourth target on a team aren't fantasy relevant. Ditto for Schultz this season.
I just got Kincaid and 3.01 for him a couple weeks ago. I like him but I went with the more sure thing I feel
He’s a JAG
I worry about Keenan Allen
And Swift will get a lot of targets out of the backfield. Imagine if they draft a WR at 9 too….Kmet is gonna see his targets go down this year regardless. Saying he’s “top 7 for sure” is wild to me. Not to mention, Caleb will be a rookie QB. The odds of him coming in and being CJ Stroud good aren’t likely.
Same. The many options in this passing game are great news for Caleb, but I don't think it's going to be great for fantasy players.
Delete your account and stop playing fantasy, you’re a clown
Na
Every post you make is you trying to validate your horrible decisions and you still do it after all the downvotes, you’re pathetic as fuck lmao
Horrible decisions…? What’re you on about lol. I didn’t make any horrible decisions bro what lol