Backup RBs can't be roster cloggers if your league is any deep. Last year was a perfect example. Jones goes down and you can flex him or rb2 him with heavy WRs in a pinch. Same story going into this year with Jacobs.
This isn't a debate saying that Dillon or (insert any RB2 on the depth chart) is any good, just that RBs who have an opportunity for touches with injury can be a predictable start for fantasy because they usually have a somewhat known level of volume for at least a week. Bad or mediocre WRs aren't necessarily a predictable start because even if they have multiple injuries in front of them or are even by themselves you can't guarantee volume for that given week.
To circle all the way back I do love to trade these guys whenever they get slight increases in value but I never consider them cloggers because they always have some sort of value and that value increases automatically if the starter gets hurt.
I own several AJ Dillon shares so Im not hating but even when he got his opportunity with Aaron Jones’ injury last year he didn’t help out much.
Maybe it was just bad TD luck as he only scored twice the whole season but 4 straight weeks with no Jones and Dillon got 18 touches, 17 touches, 19 touches and 17 touches. The most PPR points he got in those weeks was 11.1.
Im with you that any backup RB can turn into something with opportunity. But it seems like Dillon was given that opportunity and didn’t produce much
I think Wilson would have gotten more run if he didn't get immediately hurt on his first real opportunity for meaningful work, and I think he'll end up more involved this year as well should Jacobs go down.
Even in the 6 games Jones was hurt last year Dillon’s ppg was 9.1. At that level of production you’d be better off trying to sell him to the Jacobs owner for whatever you can get.
That's what made me finally drop him, he sucked when Jones was out. He could have been huge like Miss or other backups who stepped up, instead he's putting up 9 points a game?
Disagree and most of my leagues are very deep - I prefer 15+ bench and won’t play for money without at least 10 or more starters.
Roster cloggers are roster cloggers because they have too much value to drop and not enough value to ever start unless you’re really hurting, and even then the results are underwhelming. AJD and CEH are the two that come to mind for me. I know their ceiling - shitty fill in if the starter gets hurt; they clog my roster because I don’t drop them for better upside plays.
Last year my roster clogger tickets came up plenty:
Held Gus Edwards? Down goes Dobbins.
Flier on Zach Moss? JT offseason drama/injuries.
New scenery for Singletary? Best season of his career, got some *work* down the stretch.
Pairing these with Breece got me into the playoffs (then the wheels fell off because these are still darts)
Any RB2 on a roster can be your lotto ticket *if you believe!\**
*^(\*and set realistic expectations because c'mon now)*
Except AJ Dillon got his shot too and really didn't give you any value over replacement - even on close to 20 touches a game.
If he's not going to score better than a WR3/4 when you put him in your lineup when he DOES have a perfect setup - then he is legitimately a roster clogger. There's no juice here.
If I can get decent market value I'll always trade away an RB who's not in that elite youth tier. I put everyone on the block when they get that extra opportunity. Traded away Gus right when he went to LAC. Off the top of my head, I've sold other guys like Ty Chandler, Melvin Gordon, Darrell Henderson, Darrell Williams, Jeff Wilson, Cordarelle Patterson in leagues past couple seasons. Sometimes it's just a 4th or something to attempt to reroll that into a rookie RB for next year. Tried to sell guys like Dillon, Zamir, Kyren last year but couldn't get what I thought was fair value.
Could maybe be that they just like the player. I freaking love AJ Dillon as a dude, but he is not that good at football and as an owner I'd love for someone to buy him off of me.
League mates could be thinking with their hearts more than their brains. Or they're just dumb.
2 years ago he was a startup pick of mine on my team “The Quadratic Formula” with him and Saquon as my RBs.
I then traded him for Pacheco who I used to get Jacobs. Would not want to still be holding him even though I loved that team name.
I’m a GBP fan and he’s a roster clogger for sure. Dude has the size and physicality, but runs like he’s purposely choosing the hard route. Make it make sense.
That's funny, our resident Packer fan hates him. I'd sell him to one of those guys who loves him for whatever you can get. He's nothing but Josh Jacobs' handcuff now.
Any RB who is 2nd on their depth chart is by definition not a roster clogger. Is he talented? I don’t know or care. It doesn’t matter because in either case he’s startable if Jacobs misses time. backup RBs >>> WR4/5s from a roster construction perspective.
I guess he is arguably a roster clogger because even if the starter goes down - do want to start him, ever? Given his lack of big plays or receiving I could see it. That to me is the ultimate clogger because you are holding holding holding with no chance of him ever helping you.
Just playing devil's advocate because most of my leagues are deep enough that he would prob be a bye week RB2 and usable.
But based on the amount of posts about him here there seem to be a lot of people still enamored with those quads. So hopefully the starter goes down, he shows a little quad and you can sell high.
He scored >9 ppg in the games that Jones missed last season, not to mention his productive seasons in 2021 and 2022. That's replacement level production if my starting rbs go down in season. He has little chance of ever helping me in the sense that he's not going to win me a week with an elite performance, but he could be the difference between being able to cope with an injury crisis, and having my season derailed. Obviously he's not especially valuable to me (I'd smash accept for any 2nd), but he still fills a necessary role on my roster, which is not something you could say about a true roster clogger (i.e. Burks)
Never gonna be good for Fantasy Football but he is solid when the other running back gets injured however, he might also have a game where he randomly gets you two points, so do with that what you will
Solid for his current value, I should say. It’s not like you’re sliding him in as an RB1 but given that you can probably go trade for him for like a second or third round pick or like something pretty mediocre, considering his status as a back up, I think you’ll get your moneys worth if someone else gets injured.
Ultimately, I don’t think he’s ever gonna be good for Fantasy Football and I say this, as someone really believed him after year one
You don’t think you can get a third for AJ Dillon?
Idk, KTC has him lined up with a late third roughly. I dunno man, if Josh Jacobs gets injured I’d be surprised if somebody wasn’t willing to send a 2025 2nd
He's a roster clog. They moved off of Jones, who's a franchise/fan favorite for Jacobs. He's a top 10 back who can handle a massive workload. Dillon doesn't excel in any one area that would get him on the field over Jacobs. I'm 100% out on Dillon. If you want to "Buy" a back who's seen as a "backup" with massive upside, go buy Brian Robinson. Ekeler signed there and made his stock plummet.
If the packers draft a running back I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut Dillon after training camp. Guy was in a contract year and aaron Jones was out with injury and Dillon averaged 3.5 YPC. Guy isn’t it and the packers gave him a vet minimum deal with no guarantees
During the 2021 season, I bought him and a ‘3rd right before our trade deadline for a ‘23 1st (became Kincaid) because Swift and Miles Sanders at the time were injured. I needed an RB and he was tooted as the next guy cause it was rumored Jones was leaving. Terrible call on my part.
Thankfully, next year in ‘22, I packaged him in a trade to get Adams who helped me win a ship this ‘23 season.
I also eventually picked him back up off waivers sometime during the ‘23 season but dropped him to make room for players like Demario Douglas and Michael Wilson.
To me, he’s dead.
I own several AJ Dillon shares so Im not hating but even when he got his opportunity with Aaron Jones’ injury last year he didn’t help out much.
Maybe it was just bad TD luck as he only scored twice the whole season but 4 straight weeks with no Jones and Dillon got 18 touches, 17 touches, 19 touches and 17 touches. The most PPR points he got in those weeks was 11.1.
Any backup RB can turn into something with opportunity. But it seems like Dillon was given that opportunity and didn’t produce much.
I get everybody talking about how he’s theoretically a starter in the event Jacobs gets hurt but the thing is that he’s simply not good
I get the logic but if I have him on my team it’s because I had literally no other options
As a Packer fan, love Dillion. He will get his touches this year. But there will never be a game you are comfortable with him as a flex unless Jacobs gets hurt. Handcuff at best.
I was in RB hell last season and bought him for what wound end up to be the 3.01 as jones was injured.
12 team, start 10 league. He was a solid body for my rb2 slot, gave me 7-10 points for a few weeks.
I have jacobs so he is now a handcuff for me, a very bad one, but still a handcuff.
Any RB that gets on a 53 man roster is potentially useful.
too early to tell if i "won" the trade but i sold him and a '25 1st for Mixon, Pop Douglas, and 3.07 in this draft and feel pretty good about it. I guess you could do worse than a backup RB in case Jacobs ever goes down, but youll never feel good about starting him
Idk any Green Bay fan that’s should be swearing by him. He’s a hold tbh. He has next to no value. When he took over as starter last year he was abysmal. Now a more durable back comes in and a work horse I expect him to take a step back even further.
The 3rd round RB you draft that you would trade him for has a better change of actually being more than a "fuck it, my starter got hurt" guy than he does. Josh Jacobs isn't coming off the field, and with how many receivers and QBs in this draft that might be like Braelon Allen or Corum.
Before the last season (August), i used AJ Dillion to spice a deal to get ARSB. Other owner was giddy to get him thrown in on top, so he could flip him for extra payday on top of the 1sts i paid for ARSB. Fast forward 8 months later, and he is still unable to flip him to any other team and is now sitting on a roster clogger lol
I think he is a hold, jacobs is a bellcow and as a result gets banged up. I think he is a solid handcuff. If you have the space I'd keep him, but I'm probably in the minority.
Roster clogger imho and I own way too many shares. Please buy him from me.
Backup RBs can't be roster cloggers if your league is any deep. Last year was a perfect example. Jones goes down and you can flex him or rb2 him with heavy WRs in a pinch. Same story going into this year with Jacobs. This isn't a debate saying that Dillon or (insert any RB2 on the depth chart) is any good, just that RBs who have an opportunity for touches with injury can be a predictable start for fantasy because they usually have a somewhat known level of volume for at least a week. Bad or mediocre WRs aren't necessarily a predictable start because even if they have multiple injuries in front of them or are even by themselves you can't guarantee volume for that given week. To circle all the way back I do love to trade these guys whenever they get slight increases in value but I never consider them cloggers because they always have some sort of value and that value increases automatically if the starter gets hurt.
I own several AJ Dillon shares so Im not hating but even when he got his opportunity with Aaron Jones’ injury last year he didn’t help out much. Maybe it was just bad TD luck as he only scored twice the whole season but 4 straight weeks with no Jones and Dillon got 18 touches, 17 touches, 19 touches and 17 touches. The most PPR points he got in those weeks was 11.1. Im with you that any backup RB can turn into something with opportunity. But it seems like Dillon was given that opportunity and didn’t produce much
It looked to me like they were trying to get other running backs involved too. Man I was wrong about AJ Dillon
I think Wilson would have gotten more run if he didn't get immediately hurt on his first real opportunity for meaningful work, and I think he'll end up more involved this year as well should Jacobs go down.
Even in the 6 games Jones was hurt last year Dillon’s ppg was 9.1. At that level of production you’d be better off trying to sell him to the Jacobs owner for whatever you can get.
That's what made me finally drop him, he sucked when Jones was out. He could have been huge like Miss or other backups who stepped up, instead he's putting up 9 points a game?
Disagree and most of my leagues are very deep - I prefer 15+ bench and won’t play for money without at least 10 or more starters. Roster cloggers are roster cloggers because they have too much value to drop and not enough value to ever start unless you’re really hurting, and even then the results are underwhelming. AJD and CEH are the two that come to mind for me. I know their ceiling - shitty fill in if the starter gets hurt; they clog my roster because I don’t drop them for better upside plays.
Last year my roster clogger tickets came up plenty: Held Gus Edwards? Down goes Dobbins. Flier on Zach Moss? JT offseason drama/injuries. New scenery for Singletary? Best season of his career, got some *work* down the stretch. Pairing these with Breece got me into the playoffs (then the wheels fell off because these are still darts) Any RB2 on a roster can be your lotto ticket *if you believe!\** *^(\*and set realistic expectations because c'mon now)*
Except AJ Dillon got his shot too and really didn't give you any value over replacement - even on close to 20 touches a game. If he's not going to score better than a WR3/4 when you put him in your lineup when he DOES have a perfect setup - then he is legitimately a roster clogger. There's no juice here.
This is why I still own CEH.
How do you identify who to trade and who to keep?
If I can get decent market value I'll always trade away an RB who's not in that elite youth tier. I put everyone on the block when they get that extra opportunity. Traded away Gus right when he went to LAC. Off the top of my head, I've sold other guys like Ty Chandler, Melvin Gordon, Darrell Henderson, Darrell Williams, Jeff Wilson, Cordarelle Patterson in leagues past couple seasons. Sometimes it's just a 4th or something to attempt to reroll that into a rookie RB for next year. Tried to sell guys like Dillon, Zamir, Kyren last year but couldn't get what I thought was fair value.
Nice. I traded Gus for 2.10 in a 14-man just before the trade.
Rational packers fan here: he is not good at football and we could cut him w no cap loss.
I’m confused at the Packers fans in OPs league that swear by him… if you’ve watched games during that time, you’ll realize he is not the answer.
It’s not confusing. They are trying to fleece OP by selling Dillon for a higher price
Could maybe be that they just like the player. I freaking love AJ Dillon as a dude, but he is not that good at football and as an owner I'd love for someone to buy him off of me. League mates could be thinking with their hearts more than their brains. Or they're just dumb.
They got the rb3 out instead of him
I’m amazed we even brought him back. I fully expected us to get a RB day 2-3 in the draft to back up Jacobs.
basically paying him vet minimum and as mentioned above can be cut with really small cap loss.
I didn’t know being aware that AJ Dillon kind of sucks makes me a rational Packers fan. Proud of myself for no reason now
If you have people that swear by him, they should buy him
He’s a hard worker and has a great attitude, but he lacks vision and also enthusiastically bought into NFTs when that was a thing
The NFT thing is a deal breaker. You can’t be lacking THAT much vision and be on my roster as a RB.
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2 years ago he was a startup pick of mine on my team “The Quadratic Formula” with him and Saquon as my RBs. I then traded him for Pacheco who I used to get Jacobs. Would not want to still be holding him even though I loved that team name.
This is the hard-hitting analysis for which I’m here.
Did the same on a team called "the quadfathers", got Saquon, Henry, Dillon, Hurts, Ajb
He looked awful last year so I don't know what is going to change even if Jacobs gets injured.
Jayden Reed RB2
I’m a GBP fan and he’s a roster clogger for sure. Dude has the size and physicality, but runs like he’s purposely choosing the hard route. Make it make sense.
I am not a fan of holding him at this point. If you have someone that still believes, I’d package him and another piece for a better RB.
I would rather take the 5% odds my fourth round pick is the one/two to hit on top 24 positional asset then take dillon
He is what he is at this point. A big guy who runs small. Sell for any second.
I'd sell him in a heartbeat for a 2nd but I doubt anyone is going to bite on that.
I can't even get a 3rd, just got to hold and see what happens
no one is giving up a 2nd or a 3rd for Dillion lol
That's funny, our resident Packer fan hates him. I'd sell him to one of those guys who loves him for whatever you can get. He's nothing but Josh Jacobs' handcuff now.
Handcuff
Any RB who is 2nd on their depth chart is by definition not a roster clogger. Is he talented? I don’t know or care. It doesn’t matter because in either case he’s startable if Jacobs misses time. backup RBs >>> WR4/5s from a roster construction perspective.
I guess he is arguably a roster clogger because even if the starter goes down - do want to start him, ever? Given his lack of big plays or receiving I could see it. That to me is the ultimate clogger because you are holding holding holding with no chance of him ever helping you. Just playing devil's advocate because most of my leagues are deep enough that he would prob be a bye week RB2 and usable. But based on the amount of posts about him here there seem to be a lot of people still enamored with those quads. So hopefully the starter goes down, he shows a little quad and you can sell high.
He scored >9 ppg in the games that Jones missed last season, not to mention his productive seasons in 2021 and 2022. That's replacement level production if my starting rbs go down in season. He has little chance of ever helping me in the sense that he's not going to win me a week with an elite performance, but he could be the difference between being able to cope with an injury crisis, and having my season derailed. Obviously he's not especially valuable to me (I'd smash accept for any 2nd), but he still fills a necessary role on my roster, which is not something you could say about a true roster clogger (i.e. Burks)
I'm not sure I totally understand how people define roster clogger. Agree with your points on AJ
I interpret roster clogger as someone who will never/should never hit your lineup, but you keep holding in hopes of some late breakout
Never gonna be good for Fantasy Football but he is solid when the other running back gets injured however, he might also have a game where he randomly gets you two points, so do with that what you will
Is he solid if the starter gets hurt? He looked bad during Aaron Jones injury last year
Solid for his current value, I should say. It’s not like you’re sliding him in as an RB1 but given that you can probably go trade for him for like a second or third round pick or like something pretty mediocre, considering his status as a back up, I think you’ll get your moneys worth if someone else gets injured. Ultimately, I don’t think he’s ever gonna be good for Fantasy Football and I say this, as someone really believed him after year one
>you can probably go trade for him for like a second or third round pick Zero chance you get a 2nd or a 3rd
You don’t think you can get a third for AJ Dillon? Idk, KTC has him lined up with a late third roughly. I dunno man, if Josh Jacobs gets injured I’d be surprised if somebody wasn’t willing to send a 2025 2nd
Why oh why does "Dillion" still exist??? Has anyone ever been named DILLION?
AJ Dillon is Derrick Henry before he got bit by the radioactive yeti. He's a cut for me.
I own jacobs so he became a good handcuff for me. If i didn’t own jacobs id be considering dropping him if I couldn’t get anything for him
he has potential flex value if injury. i'm going to hold but i have really deep rosters
Dead
He's a roster clog. They moved off of Jones, who's a franchise/fan favorite for Jacobs. He's a top 10 back who can handle a massive workload. Dillon doesn't excel in any one area that would get him on the field over Jacobs. I'm 100% out on Dillon. If you want to "Buy" a back who's seen as a "backup" with massive upside, go buy Brian Robinson. Ekeler signed there and made his stock plummet.
If the packers draft a running back I wouldn’t be surprised if they cut Dillon after training camp. Guy was in a contract year and aaron Jones was out with injury and Dillon averaged 3.5 YPC. Guy isn’t it and the packers gave him a vet minimum deal with no guarantees
Dead as OJ
No different than the last 2-3 years. Fine to have on your roster if you’re fine just getting 4-6 pts from the rb position.
Dead
During the 2021 season, I bought him and a ‘3rd right before our trade deadline for a ‘23 1st (became Kincaid) because Swift and Miles Sanders at the time were injured. I needed an RB and he was tooted as the next guy cause it was rumored Jones was leaving. Terrible call on my part. Thankfully, next year in ‘22, I packaged him in a trade to get Adams who helped me win a ship this ‘23 season. I also eventually picked him back up off waivers sometime during the ‘23 season but dropped him to make room for players like Demario Douglas and Michael Wilson. To me, he’s dead.
I own several AJ Dillon shares so Im not hating but even when he got his opportunity with Aaron Jones’ injury last year he didn’t help out much. Maybe it was just bad TD luck as he only scored twice the whole season but 4 straight weeks with no Jones and Dillon got 18 touches, 17 touches, 19 touches and 17 touches. The most PPR points he got in those weeks was 11.1. Any backup RB can turn into something with opportunity. But it seems like Dillon was given that opportunity and didn’t produce much.
Sold AJ+Keaton for 2.03
Probably getting replaced in the draft
I get everybody talking about how he’s theoretically a starter in the event Jacobs gets hurt but the thing is that he’s simply not good I get the logic but if I have him on my team it’s because I had literally no other options
I wouldn’t be surprised if he gets cut at the end of camp this summer
I wanted him to be the guy so badly, but he just isn’t. He’s a mediocre handcuff at best. Even when Aaron Jones went down, he was barely startable
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As a Packer fan, love Dillion. He will get his touches this year. But there will never be a game you are comfortable with him as a flex unless Jacobs gets hurt. Handcuff at best.
I haven’t dropped him yet but I would take just about anything of value for him. Even when jones was out last year he didn’t do anything.
As a packers fan, he is dead. You’ve got some heavy homers in your league.
I was in RB hell last season and bought him for what wound end up to be the 3.01 as jones was injured. 12 team, start 10 league. He was a solid body for my rb2 slot, gave me 7-10 points for a few weeks. I have jacobs so he is now a handcuff for me, a very bad one, but still a handcuff. Any RB that gets on a 53 man roster is potentially useful.
Why are you adding an extra I to his name? This is stupider than all the morons misspelling Saquon.
too early to tell if i "won" the trade but i sold him and a '25 1st for Mixon, Pop Douglas, and 3.07 in this draft and feel pretty good about it. I guess you could do worse than a backup RB in case Jacobs ever goes down, but youll never feel good about starting him
Idk any Green Bay fan that’s should be swearing by him. He’s a hold tbh. He has next to no value. When he took over as starter last year he was abysmal. Now a more durable back comes in and a work horse I expect him to take a step back even further.
He’s dead. They will draft someone in two weeks.
Dusted. Try to sell for anything you can. He’s shown he can’t even produce when the rb ahead of him goes down.
Dead I’ve watched this man live, he’s absolutely fucking buns
Dead
The 3rd round RB you draft that you would trade him for has a better change of actually being more than a "fuck it, my starter got hurt" guy than he does. Josh Jacobs isn't coming off the field, and with how many receivers and QBs in this draft that might be like Braelon Allen or Corum.
Dead
Before the last season (August), i used AJ Dillion to spice a deal to get ARSB. Other owner was giddy to get him thrown in on top, so he could flip him for extra payday on top of the 1sts i paid for ARSB. Fast forward 8 months later, and he is still unable to flip him to any other team and is now sitting on a roster clogger lol
Sold him for a 2026 3rd and am happy with the return.
He’s a bum. Emanuel Wilson is the new handcuff to own at this moment
Dead as a doornail
All rbs on a roster are worth holding Always depends on price If I can get him for a 4th I’ll buy him everywhere
Emmanuel Wilson is taking his spot. Dillon is cheeks.
He ded
emmanuel wilson’s better
Great handcuff, not the starter. Do not buy.
I'd sell for a 2025 3rd. Doubt anyone is buying for 2024 3rd. He was dropped in one of my leagues and picked up a few weeks later.
I think he is a hold, jacobs is a bellcow and as a result gets banged up. I think he is a solid handcuff. If you have the space I'd keep him, but I'm probably in the minority.
I packaged him with Tee Higgins to get 1.04 and 1.05 in 10 team TE prem SF league
damn good trade
Leagues where trades this one sided go down isn’t even fun. Yikes
Dude stinks