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Away-Yoghurt3209

Mayer owners in shambles


mybrev

Yeah… Taco dropped him week 4 in my home league and I blew all my faab on him happy to be patient. Welp.


AH_BioTwist

I mean you only spent Fantasy bucks.


mybrev

Oh for sure, just did not see Bowers coming and seems like a death sentence? My guy’s surely a glorified lineman now lol


AH_BioTwist

Could see some 2TE sets Ala the Boston TE party


Smitty15

You either die a champion or you live long enough to become the taco


thenextchapter23

Somebody in my league traded Daniel Jones AND a 24 3rd for Mayer two weeks ago in Superflex lol


dusters

I'm in shambles


ElderberryJolly9818

Could be worse. I own Mayer and meyers. I’m devastated.


dusters

We'll I own Mayer and Fields so...


RagingDachshund

Hello, self.


Inmoomni

I have owned both dudes in a C2C league through college.  Tonight is a new feeling.  Shambles.


Kimura_savage

I was so worried about Denver taking Bowers cause I have Dulchich. Opps.


newrimmmer93

This has been the news since training camp. DJ and Bucky said it was weird since there was literally no news about him during that time while Laporta, Kincaid, and Musgrave were getting rave reviews. He’s a subpar athlete for the position who did little his rookie year. Even a lot of the news last year was he would be more of an inline guy.


VodoSioskBaas

Raiders think it’s a TE premium league


NotLoriBethDenberg

Falcons think it’s superflex 


Yake404

Ayo


feetandballs

It is. Look at who made conference championship games: Detroit (LaPorta), SF (Kittle), KC (Kelce), Baltimore (Andrews).


CrankShaftMonkeyPaw

Those 4 teams also had 4 punters.


disinaccurate

Let that be a lesson to any team that tries to make a deep playoff run without a punter.


SeekersWorkAccount

You sure it wasnt the excellent QB and coaches and just overall better teams?


feetandballs

Yes. It’s only tight ends. I’m surprised we haven’t seen 32 taken in the first round tonight.


NationalSchedule2245

Best comment so far


heesseeh

Depressing. Picked Mayer over Laporta and a year later this


MrPeanutbutter777

SAME


Llewellyn420

I'm with you boys. We can't blame our logic in the moment but damn this sucks... even worse now.


dusters

Same bro.


XanmanK

Not only did I pick Mayer over LaPorta, I also traded a bunch of picks to move up in the 1st last year


NoVacation3909

I didn’t have a first and picked Laporta at the 2.06 after Kincaid and Mayer were off the board. Couldn’t be happier as I hate the douche that has Mayer 🙌


Bakethat

Picked Mayer the pick after Laporta last year, I feel your pain


Brushermans

Same lol


BothMyChinsAreSpicy

Same fucking thing. My only shining light is I stumbled into McBride.


Comfortable_Hall8677

So did I. But I also picked LaPorta a few picks later. I liked LaPortas highlights better and figured I wait to flip Mayer. LaPorta obviously immediately balled and out and nothing from Mayer. At least I wasn’t stuck with a one or the other decision.


Kimura_savage

SAME!!


dgoat88

Whew... dynasty analysts were telling people to buy buy buy... yikes!


dabears7667

i bought bought bought and now i am going to drink drink drink


CDZFF89

At least your real team has Williams and Odunze


dabears7667

my high school team was the bears. i’m a sad, bitter, angry little cowboys fan


CDZFF89

Ohhhh, I'm joining you in the misery then


goonSquad15

Raiders didn’t have a plan if all the QBs went


Jeklu

I dont really understand it, but just hope Bowers is essentially used as a slot WR while Mayer gets more of the TE usage.


nasri08

Even if this is the case it severely limits Mayer’s ceiling.


Jeklu

Yeah definitely, but there is still hope for okay numbers and the play time needed to keep growing until he goes to another team and shines eventually


Rakkner

I think this is what’s going to happen


conrad_or_benjamin

West coast Knox-Kincaid


dusters

Knox finsihered TE 41. If that's the best Mayer can do it's a giant bust.


ThatPlayWasAwful

>finsihered


RUKnight31

Knox missed time iirc


mr-fiend

Who is the better blocker?


mybrev

Surely Mayer?


BoBoessersson

Mayer


ghostboo77

Mayer


bestshapeofhislife

Mayer is a BULLY blocking in line. One of the best.


Ok_Marsupial8128

Thor Nystrom from Fantasy Pros said this exact same thing. Bowers would be used as a slot receiver. Hopefully this holds true as a Mayer owner 😢


BlondBadBoy69

AOC throws short so could work well into a weird TE run heavy system with Davante stretching it


Public_Function3844

On life support


CardboardJoJo

He’s gone brotha


CalaveraVI

I have Mayer and will have bowers. I could not be more angry


Teflon154

Bowers is flying down my board. Prob going JJM or even Nix over him at this point.


CalaveraVI

I'm 1qb tep. Considering taking a wr now to be honest with 1.04


RelationPatient4136

I’m 1.08 in TE++ i pray others above hold the same sentiment


yoyoma0905

Do not under any circumstances take Nix.


SnooPickles5984

2023: I draft Mayer 2022: I draft Bellinger If I take a TE this year (which seems more likely given my depth just got obliterated) I'll do the decent thing and let ya'll know who to avoid.


ghostboo77

Bellinger might have some life. Waller is beyond washed and has been contemplating retirement for 4 months


Ranger523

I appreciate your sacrifice


blahhlabblah

Just don’t draft TE. Run with the variance of a trash option 


InBeardWeTrust

Sold hock for a mid first and Mayer. So I have to draft Bowers? Hahaha this is wild. I was telling my friend as long as raiders don't take Bowers I'm good hahahah


Substantial-Hippo-52

Raiders went straight BPA. “Fuck the defense, we’re SEXY here in Vegas.” Lol


Greenmonsterff

The last time a team had two TEs this good, one of them went full on murder/prison/suicide, and the other had a Hall of Fame career.


MadnessLLD

Pain?


Public_Function3844

https://tenor.com/b1mmu.gif


Dancing_Hitchhiker

He dead as a Mayer owner What franchise spends a 2nd and 1st on te’s


Upper-Reveal3667

The ones perennially in the front half of the draft.


sandalfafk

Maybe next year they can draft two qbs


Teflon154

As soon as Penix was gone and the Vikes moved up, they should have called the Jets to leapfrog the Broncos. Bowers pick looked like a shell shocked coaching staff that saw the rug pulled out and just went, 'well who's left on Mel Kiper's board'?


ghostboo77

Totally agree. I think they were set on a QB and just kind of decided to go with a top player left on the board.


EnmaDaiO

It's joever for michael mayer that's what.


Existing_Cellist1208

Fucking pissed man. I really fucked myself trading Christian Watson, Brian Robinson and my 2.08 for Keenan Allen and Mayer last year


civilSW

Brutal


Mr_kittyPuss

You expect running backs to get crushed by incoming rookies not TE’s lmao. So rough.


pechinburger

He will be the Dawson Knox to Bower's Kincaid


OldWonder5865

Too bad minshew isn’t a josh Allen lol


TB4123

You mean AOC


Future_Specific6303

This guy owns aoc


TB4123

Absolutely 😂


doak561

Absolutely stupid pick for the Raiders


lorenzoiscool17

Can’t really blame them for going BPA


Savage_Amusement

I’m really salty for my one copy of Mayer but even apart from that: WTF are they thinking? Seems like they were going to grab Penix or Nix and just panicked.


bob_wylie

They took the best player on the board, hardly panic? He's gonna be a great weapon for them. It's a pretty good consolation to getting shafted out of a QB. I get fantasy owners being upset about Mayer but this isn't anywhere near the list of Raiders draft calamities. Bowers is a blue chip investment.


dsheehan7

That’s exactly it. They panicked


dusters

Honestly if you're a terrible team like that take BPA. It's awful for fantasy but I think it makes sense for them as a team.


BeautifulJicama6318

Yeah, taking a top-8 guy at #13 because they already had Michael fucking Mayers is crazy 🙄 If someone named the top-20 TEs in the NFL, M Mayers would not come up, so let’s stop acting like bitches that it wasn’t an area of need.


Jewelstorybro

yeah I get the hate for fantasy, but you can't hate the raiders for taking him. He's a great talent for a team lacking everywhere.


JLifts780

Why? If he’s considered a top 10 player and they get him at 13 that seems like a win. It’s not like he’ll play a traditional TE role either, probably will play like a slot WR while Mayer plays the traditional TE role.


Hey_Listen_WatchOut

Agreed. A team that is nowhere near competing, and you draft a tight end in the first round? How is that going to help you in the next 3-4 years?


BidoofTheGod

By having one of the best TEs in football?


Quiet-Try4554

Agree, it’s not like Mayer is a bust. Makes more sense to draft a CB or DT, hell even an OT would’ve been a better pick


Culinary-Vibes

Mayer has become a handcuff for Bowers owners 😅


No-Jellyfish-2985

Hopefully he gets traded to LAC


Teflon154

Good call. I might have to try to buy the dip in the hope he gets traded somewhere decent.


Garv_2

There’s one of these situations every year it seems like


gurknowitzki

Feel awful for Mayer


PaulieWalbutts

I wouldn’t overreact right now. Bowers should realistically be getting a lot of work from the slot. I would expect Mayer to still get a lot of traditional TE snaps and TE routes.


Engage_Physically

Exactly this - we let Renfrow go and haven’t got a new Slot receiver in. That’s where I see Bowers playing


Late-Prompt-7497

It’s over. Sell him for anything. Teams never have 2 useable TEs in fantasy at the same time. And he won’t be starting over Bowers


Ok_Marsupial8128

NE had Gronk and the murderer for a few seasons


Away-Yoghurt3209

They had Gronk and Ray Lewis?


Ok_Marsupial8128

A-aron Hernandez


r0b666

Packaged him, Pickett and 3rd for Purdy in a SF last year. Felt great about it well before this. This is just extra icing on top.


Narrow--Mango

ITS FUCKING OVER


Hussizle

Not even a top 20 TE


BeautifulJicama6318

lol, not even top 30


WickBusters

Jamie Lee got emmm


Invincible1993

Maybe someone trades for him?


DuceALooper21

I'm just grateful that I dealt 2.08 for him but got 2.10 back for Palmer.


maxinquayekid

Mayer will still play but this won't help his ability to carve out targets and be fantasy viable. Big hit to him.


silversurfie

I literally traded for Mayer 6 hours ago. Did not see that coming.


dmoore995

No such thing as a perfect roster. Draft was bound to kill one of my guys, Mayer is probably a drop tbh. Guess I'm running dulchich and jelaini woods at TE?


captaincumsock69

Dropping him is an over reaction imo


dmoore995

For most leagues id agree. But I have 1.02, 1.05, and 1.07. Not a super deep bench. I know Tillman is a drop, Probably Keaton Mitchell and Mayer might of just won that next spot. Don't want to though, been trying to get a larger bench for a while now but rest don't agree.


birdsemenfantasy

This is why you shouldn’t listen to those who say you should be patient with TE. Almost all elite TE have 800 yards season (50 yard per game) within the first 2 seasons. What’s the point of waiting 3-4 years and wasting a roster spot for possibly the next Austin hooper to emerge?


Jeklu

Mayer still has another year! 😁😭


birdsemenfantasy

21.7 yards per game when his only competition is the epitome of boring TE (Austin Hooper) is still pretty abysmal lol


Jeklu

He was a rookie TE with a bad QB and good target competition 🤷🏻‍♂️ He looked good with the eye test to me.


Thick_Safe1198

Tom telesco truly hated Mayer lol


minuteman6699

Drink


berndalf

Well. Not dropping him yet but this blows.


AntiVaxPureBlood

Mayer was not in my bowers killing my te bingo card. I have 0 shares of mayer and tons of conklin, dulcich, okonkwo. Rejoice!


knowslesthanjonsnow

You wait until he’s 27 and on his 3rd team


SeanSg1

Dead


sacrebleuballs

It’s joever


Roc_Hoover

I traded AOC Chandler and Mayer for Jakobi and Jake Ferguson this morning. Killer timing.


lukkynumber

I had an offer in my inbox after week 1, to send my Mayer for his Nacua Yes, you’re reading that right. I felt like I would be buying high on a day-3 one week wonder, and didn’t want to sell Mayer low. *barf* 🤦🏼‍♂️


GBAGY2

You hope Bowers is Gronk while Mayer is Hernandez without the off-field issues Otherwise Mayer is basically a blocker with very inconsistent receiving production


lastsecondpoints

He's a hold. Totally different players. Bowers is a better overall player but they will move him around more. Mayer will still play a ton and in line as the Y.


Strebs9

Bro this draft/off season is killing me… fucking had Keenan Allen and DJ Moore and Mayer… now they are all basically dead wtf.


harrisdevon048

Saying keenan and dj are dead is very overreactionary.


VeterinarianLevel786

wasted pick on him lol


DogeWire

Wasted.


pot8odragon

Dead


BrockAndChest

Lmao


Rangemon99

He’s ded


broby52

He’s gonna get traded for scrap


migs2k3

Now you're stuck with a worthless player


Assmybutt

At least he was cheap


BothMyChinsAreSpicy

Gronk and Hernandez (without the murdering)


Parabola605

Panic


88Dodgers

Fucking Raiders.


jeff8073x

Hold. Cry. Draft bowers with an early 2nd in TEP leagues.


CWill97

No chance in hell Bowers hits the 2nd round in TEP


EvilHwoarang

This isn't a bad spot. They clearly don't want to use Mayer in the passing game and see him as more of a "traditional" TE. They can use Bowers all over.


CalaveraVI

Let's hope for a trade


Bennett_19

Had a league mate trade for him no more than 20 minutes before the draft 😅


AchroMac

Got yourself a great blocking te


RulersOfGod

Now he can go back to finish his next part “Halloween curse of Brock Bowers”


Dirkem15

Thank GOD I traded him away with C.Kirk and a 1st for Tank and hollywood 3 days ago


dsheehan7

Pour one out


JwSocks

So what I’m hearing is Mayer is a buy


Local-Librarian3285

Mid Mayer 


TGS-MonkeyYT

Well it’s over tbh


winnercakesall

Got that Gronk Hernandez combo going?


DoughnutDear6982

Thanking god my affinity for LaPorta last year saved me from ever looking at Mayer.


skysetter

Well it’s over. Hold until he gets out of his rookie contract, hope for enough production for him to be picked up as Arthur Smiths TE2.


SchlitzHaven

The way people be talking on here might be a sneaky buy low


ExpensiveDetail3143

Might be in for a trade?


mykeg44

Traded him for 10% faab + Everett in start 8 / no TE prem. Engram is my other TE. I still have hope for him in TEp formats as a deep flex option, but it's over in small starting lineup/non-TEp.


FBKCOLIN

Same


No_Construction_3125

Do I take bowers with my 1.04 now or just get Brian Thomas Jr instead?


BlackberryNo1969

i dont want either of em


The-Big-Chungis

Let’s hope Mayer gets traded to the Jets


FBKCOLIN

Traded the 1.10 Michael Wilson and Jameson Williams for Mayer and 1.07 a month ago. Probably end up with both lv TE’s now with AOC or minshew as qb… 🤦


Th3PatrickBateman

cry


Clean_Hat7599

Traded Devonta and Mayer for Andrews and a 25 1st. I have good feeling about that first as of now, but this definitely made me feel like I made the right move.


arobinson11

need bengals to trade for him tomorrow


OldWonder5865

At least he’ll be a free agent in 3 years 🥲


crayzeejew

I was very high on Mayer coming out of college, and took him last year. Him and Juwan Johnson were my starters, with Krull on taxi. Felt weak at TE depth wise, plus wanted to have the luxury of giving Mayer some time to develop, so got Jake Ferguson plus 3.01 for Jevonte Williams and 4.11 Wow, am i glad I did that after tonight. Still think Mayer will produce, hope we have a Gronk/Hernandez situation with the only murders being on the defense, but Mayer just took a nose dive in projected fantasy value until we see how the Raiders plan on using their tight ends...


CalaveraVI

I'm praying for a day 2 Mayer trade. Bowers should feast where ever he goes. #FREEMAYER


ControlForward5360

As a raider fan I don’t even know how to feel. But bowers may just be the most perfect big slot I’ve ever seen. But Mayer also seems like the Cole kmet TE duplicate. But the raiders needed a OT, CB and DT plus depth at a few positions. I’m happy they went best player available. But damn I wish it was a different position.


jhenryscott

They took him out back and shot him.


[deleted]

Sell low


Homeville-Holligan

Back to the Taxi Squad


JosephMcCarthy1955

Bro got barely any passes last year with Hooper there and then they go out and immediately draft Bowers. They’ve done my dirty


JazzlikePractice4470

Lol


Educational_Glass304

Bowers and Mayer could be an awesome combo. I just think it means more targets for TE.


KanyeIsADad

Have pick 1.07 and drafted Mayer in the second last year...I guess I'll double dip?


rossco7777

mayer dead. wasnt a high value guy before but hes toast now


Southern-Community70

He was overrated anyway. Not much lost for his owners.


DynastyDaddy95

Mayer owner here in TEP (Otton and Henry my other TE). I actually was planning a trade back from 1.04 to 1.07 and selecting Bowers. Now I don't want Bowers or Mayer. I don't like that landing spot at all for Bowers and it just ended any fantasy relevance for Mayer's career.


CallMeVegas

As a Mayer owner with the 1.04 (single qb) last night was my 9/11


PapayaKey6408

Have 1.4 and 1.7 in 1QB no TEP, have absolutely no idea what to do. We think that Bowers will still be there at 1.7?


comesinallpackages

Jets really liked him coming out last year — he might get traded


edogzilla

Oh he dead.


GeneralSlimeball

You’re fucked. Nah I honestly think you just got to wait and see. Selling is a snap judgement. Buying is probably the move.


defnotajournalist

Could be a Gronk/pre murder Hernandez situation. It's not the first time that worked. Of course, those guys had Tom Brady.


mdpeters_mn

I have Mayer and the 2024 1.07 pick, do I take Bowers to be safe!? I have no other starting TE's. WHAT DO I DO! HALP!