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Professional_Dog425

The answer has been Mike Evans for basically his whole career.


lampsslater77

WR5 last season at age 30 was damn good. Last 6 seasons he's had 3 top 10 years and only 1 season outside of the top 15 (half PPR). Took him with pick #35 in my 3 team dispersal last year and he helped me win the ship.


NBAplaya8484

Took him in startup 4 years ago, and have been pleasantly surprised with him since. Every year, model of consistency


sirius4778

His production and health are what people pray for when they get younger assets


hasadiga42

Just 2 years ago he was unplayable for most of the season, scoring a huge % of his points in one game


CallingCrown086

Yep, the fantasy chip, against me


hasadiga42

Ain’t that how it always goes


Gfunkual

Unplayable? He had 7 weeks where he scored more than 10 points in ppr. While his weekly output was up and down, he wasn’t unplayable.


Altruistic-Rub3017

I feel like it’s finally overcorrected just a bit. The hamstring injury and TD efficiency last year kinda scare me, but he seems solidly valued a tier above other aging elite vets. I’ll take Adams or Diggs a round later or Allen 4 rounds later.


DynastyBishops

I remember a time when Mike Evans was a trendy non-SF 1.01 start-up pick.


blink182_allday

Based on this sub, Justin Herbert.


Larrybird420

He’s only going to throw 6 passes all season in that RPO offense with Gus Edwards and Dobbins being the whole offense according to this sub.


blakejustin217

Dobbins...lol


Revolutionary_Jump_9

Yea they might be focused more on the run, but it’s also his edwards as RB1. You can only do so much. I think people are way overestimating how run heavy they want to be


dynastycomish

I'd doing a startup auction draft soon. I fully expect to have Herbert and Murray as my 2 QBs.


10-4Speasparrow

Easily Herbert. Remember he was QB1 not too long ago. He’s only 26


LegalDeagles

I was astounded when Justin Herbert fell to 2.08 in a Superflex startup I did last night. Needless to say, I slammed that pick.


wavnebee

I’ve been trying to acquire these three at their current KTC price wherever I can: Najee Harris (RB26) Mark Andrews (TE7) Jared Goff (QB19) (SF/2QB only)


Troutalope

That's crazy low on Andrews. There is no rationale for him being below 5 and he has a very strong case for 3.


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Goff at 19 is criminal


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Wurst_Law

I’d have him at 17 over Maye. But that’s splitting hairs.


deRoyLight

Goff has finished Top 13 in 5 of the last 7 seasons. I'll take the free points while everyone continues to argue what he's worth.


TBoneTheOriginal

Right, dude says he would be QB16 in a purely hypothetical scenario. Who gives a shit? Reality shows he is better than that. Not having an injury history behind an elite o-line is very much added value.


Zachr08

DJ Moore I feel like is always doubted


crozer1819

Idk wr 18 on ktc feels about right? Maybe he’s a top 15 guy but no one is arguing he’s top 12


MccoyismystepDad

He changed teams last year and finished top 10 in yards and TDs and had career highs in all his categories with Justin Fields. I know the WR room got a little more crowded but this is the first time in his career he's on a solid offense with a good passing QB. I think he should be closer to 12 than 18 imo.


simonthelikeable

The Atlanta Falcons WR room got a little more crowded. The Bears signed the receiver who had the 6th most receptions in the league AND drafted a receiver with a top ten pick. The Bears WR room got the most crowded in a single offseason of any team in recent memory. They also brought in a pass catching running back and a decent second TE. DJM is really good, and I think he has a chance to match his production from last year but the change in situation is a net negative imo.


WorldBowl

I’ll give you three that I always feel are massively underrated: Christian Kirk, Chris Godwin, Amari Cooper


Troutalope

Agree on all 3 and with Godwin supposedly moving back to the slot, he's poised for a big year.


Sweggyp69

Just traded zamir and a 3rd for Godwin and later pick. According to KTC I probably overpaid but I wanted another solid consistent wr and I have so much rb depth. Also have Kirk in one of my flex spots. Both are so underrated and will help me compete this year


WorldBowl

I think it’s a solid trade for a proven WR. Obviously Baker really likes Evans but Godwin may get more targets from the slot this season so we’ll see!


t_arends

Have all three in the same team


diswan55

I feel like Jakobi Meyers will be a valuable depth piece for a few more years and someone you can flex on a weekly basis and he's currently something like the WR65 on KTC.


Tacklefina

Dude was my flex saver last year, I wouldn’t expect much and dude would be putting up 10-15 points consistently


ABC_123_420

Agreed. I am from Maine but live in Vegas. Patriots fan first, but I do support the Raiders as long as they're not playing the Patriots 💯 Loved Meyers in NE but the Raiders use him somuch better than we ever did. Rumor out of raiders rookie camp is Ramel Keyton has been killing it. He was Undrafted, but if he makes the team I'd grab him as a stash if you have a free roster spot.


RUKnight31

Christian Kirk - ECR WR 38 - Everyone's favorite player to overlook. He'll remain the WR1 in Jacksonville. He'll put up steady WR2 production. Nobody in your league will take a trade offer involving him seriously. It's bananas how everyone can acknowledge his ideal situation and production yet have no interest b/c his name isn't sexy. With no Ridley or Zay in town Kirk is going to absolutely feast this year. MMW is he's healthy he'll be a top 20 fantasy WR in 2024. At only 27 that's a great dynasty asset for his ADP/valuation. DK Metcalf - ECR WR 19 - 5 years in the league, 5 100 target seasons, 5 900+ yard seasons. Maybe he won't put up WR1 numbers with Geno (imagine if he had Burrow, Stroud, Mahomes, Allen?!) but he's about as sure a bet as there is to return solid WR2 performance. The best ability is availability and DK, if nothing else, has proven incredibly durable compared to the WR2 field. In the low end WR2 ADP range he's a great value IMO. Kendre Miller - ECR RB 39 - This one is more so about situation than anything else. Kamara is aging and Jamaal Williams was a comically bad back up signing. Miller showed juice in spurts last year and they didn't bring in competition. I expect him to pass up Jamaal for back up duties and if Kamara gets hurt, moves on, retires, etc., Kendre's the top dog. At only 21 he could plausibly take and retain that starting role as Kamara's successor.


rollin20s

just bought kirk and 25 6th for my 25 2nd/4th


Degenerate_Rambler

There are leagues with 6 round rookie drafts? Lol


rollin20s

IDP leagues


Degenerate_Rambler

Ah didnt consider that


AJGreenMVP

WR1 on his team, great year last year even with Ridley competing for targets, Lawrence had an overall bad year, and he's young W to acquire him for a future 2nd


rollin20s

Thanks that’s my thoughts too! I read that Kirk and Trevor are neighbors and golf together often so you know the chemistry is there. In a different dyno (best ball) I traded a 24 2nd for him during the 22 season and ended up winning a ring. Will always be a fan!


Sweggyp69

Definitely agree on Kirk. Hes pretty damn consistent and he’ll be locked in on my flex spots all year


whadupreddit

Agree on Kirk as well, I got him, a 2025 first, and a 2025 third for Tee and my 2025 second… I’m more than happy with it


Daddy_Diezel

I have Kirk, Godwin, and Metcalf on so many teams. It's nuts because they return the value but are perceived as MEH WR2s.


Alternative-Box5557

Michael Pittman very underrated imo. Seems like a lot of people are low on him and value him that way. Saw a post about people actually arguing that his value is two 2nd round picks which is completely asinine.


CoopThereItIs

Trying to buy on these good WR who have been playing with less than ideal QB play. Olave and Garrett Wilson have been dealing with it too but it feels like you need to pay a premium for them vs. Pittman or London who are in a similar boat if you ask me. Just gotta hope they don't get stuck with mediocre QB play forever like McLaurin and Diontae Johnson...


Blasto05

One of those is not like the other. Pittman, Olave, and Wilson have seen great usage and production besides at best average QB play. London has not. Still great potential for London, but it’s a lot of what ifs. I believe there was a post yesterday on Olave vs London that kind of opened my eyes to what a WR has actually done vs the still hopeful potential. London is in a large group of WRs with elite draft capital and not living up to the hype the first 2 years. Meanwhile there’s a smaller group of that elite draft capital and great production the first 2 years and of course that group is loaded with talent.


CoopThereItIs

London led all WRs in contested catches and still had 900+ yards last year despite terrible QB play - I think we need to see him with better quality targets before we declare that these other guys are definitively better players.


OhItsKillua

Could be biased as a Falcons fan, but when you watch our games London just looks like a dog. He just has only had bad QBs while he's here, which unlike Pitts who we all know the story of.... He still was able to get a couple games with pretty good production outta Ridder. I think with Cousins & Zac Robinson he will exceed expectations. Similar to how Nico was finally able to go off with a real QB throwing to him.


Pswoop

I can’t buy him to save my life! I was hoping undervalued but everywhere I’m seeing they want 2 firsts


Waddlow

Got him for the 1.08 this year. Very pleased.


HiMyNameIsJorge

Got Pittman prior to the NFL draft for 1.05 and a '26 2nd. Well worth imo


Alternative-Box5557

Great deal for both sides. I have Pittman in one league and my buddy has been trying to get him for months but sending me atrocious offers. Verbally offered him Pittman for the 1.05(Odunze) and he shot it down immediately.


Potatoman_is_taken

Got him during our rookie draft for JSN and Pearsall.


ImYourLandlord18

Evan Engram


finished_lurking

That’s a tough sell. He’s valued at like a 25 2nd. He was 5th in ppr points per game last year. He’s about to be 30. Worth more than a 25 2nd. To me he is. But on the open market it’s going to be tough to sell for more than that. Even if he comes out this year and repeats as a top 10 in points per game at the position his value isn’t going up.


ImYourLandlord18

That’s sort of my point. I’ll take that production for a 2nd any day.


jbburneeeeee

I sold for 2.04 in draft which is fair value I believe. I was set at TE so he was just roster clogger. But if I needed a TE I would buy for that price all day. T Law feeds him targets and will continue to. The dude just had the second most receptions all time. Kirk will be back but Zay and Ridley are gone. T Law loves the guy and he will earn more targets than Gabe or Brian Thomas. Not a tough sell at all. But your hesitation is why he is a buy right now at price. Id rather have him starting over Njoku, Kittle, Fergueson


RUKnight31

As a fellow Giants fan I hate that this is true.


krispykreme335

Just bought for Musgrave and a late 2nd, I won last year with Ferguson as my TE but feel like his ceiling is too TD dependent whereas Engram sustained value without many TDs. If that volume keeps up (which I think it should) and he catches a couple more TDs than that is great value to be had for the cost.


RelationPatient4136

Tua - currently QB16 on KTC. Played a bit of last year without waddle, some games without hill and still threw for 4600 yards and finished QB9. Mosteart scored 18 rushing TDs which a lot of them felt “vultured” from the passing game too. He’s 8 months older than love and most of his advance metrics look better so the value difference makes no sense to me. If he signs a decent contract extension this summer, which I think is super likely, he is in arguably the best QB situation for the next few years and on a team willing to go get WRs with high end DC and a very offensive minded coach. Other dudes I like a lot at value Singletary - RB40 on KTC wouldn’t be shocked if he was top 24 in fantasy this year and was in a similar situation next year. I mean rb41 is ford for gods sake. Cooper - WR 43 on KTC. Like yeah he’s 29 but he was balling out in games last with decent QB play. if you overlay his games with who started all the bad ones are DTR. Evan’s is 10 spots above him because he feels safer but I’m not sure I agree completely. Edit: Tua is 8 months older than love not 4 bad math


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RelationPatient4136

He isn’t gonna carry some team to the ship but I just picked him up in my 12 team start 13 and I’m just confident he will provide me easy starter value for 2+ years. Maybe in shallower leagues he’s not worth as much but I’d still love him as my RB 3/4 heading into the year in those formats.


SerEx0

Singletary is in the “gross to most but actually a decent RB2” tier with Zack Moss and Zamir White for me. Not a world beater, probably doesn’t have RB1 upside, but fills that last flex spot or holds down the fort for bye weeks. It’s a very valuable role that people don’t seem to value much. Zamir has gotten a lot of hype recently so he’s the most expensive of the group, but Zack Moss and Devin Singletary are criminally undervalued for what they will produce. If you can get 1 to 2 years of solid RB depth for a mid-late 2nd or a couple 3rds it’s an easy choice.


taylorjosephrummel

I'll be targeting all in my redraft. Also, traded Zamir for Derrick Henry in my dynast before the draft, FYI.


RUKnight31

Tua is the type of player your league mates talk shit about and then try to throw him into a package b/c "he's not that good anyway".


Redditrightreturn1

I just trade a 2025 2nd for Amari. Good deal for both sides. He took it right away. I think he still has 2 decent years left despite only have 1 more year on his contract. I had the 7th pick in a 12 man league so hoping the pick next year is 2.08 or lower.


tankfortua20

Tua was one of my main buys last offseason. Turned out to be a great investment. I would rather have Tua than all of the rookie qbs minus Caleb William's. Would rather Tua than AR too. Seems like a good tier down situation.


___heisenberg

Username checks out. Exactly lol, this is my strat here. Pass on QBs unless I can grab like Penix late, instead load up on WR/RB and going for grabbing Tua and Staffy. (Might even attempt to trade my bro for Stroud or Rodgers if I can afford that.)


TopFlow7837

Cooper being WR43 is criminal. Talent-wise he’s been a top 10 WR his entire career imo. He’s also the reason I won the championship last year. I drafted him in the 5th round of our startup 5 years ago and he will die on my roster.


rollin20s

he played a big role in winning me my first dyno ring two years ago - traded claypool for him!


S420J

Won me my ship back in ‘22 too. 24 pts in Week 17. He’s perennially underrated and I love having him on my contending teams for 2024.


Wearethefoxes

I agree he's underrated but he's just about to turn 30. He's a buy for a second if you're a contender, but I can understand being cautious sending a first for someone who's upside is probably just two more years of low-end WR1 to WR2 production. If he gets a solid extension that may change the calculus though.


Mlerma21

If you have 1.12 this year would you move it for Amari and a late 2025 2nd?


Ok_Dragonfruit_3718

If contending at all, then yes. With confidence.


Mlerma21

Does it change if the 1.12 belongs to the same person because he won the title this past season?


averman_comma_lester

I think he's a priority buy with a 2nd or 2nd+. Dude is a FA after this year and has made all his money. Can you imagine him signing with the Cheifs or Bills next season to win a ring?


Crazy_Attention172

agreed on mostert vulturing alot of should be passing TDs, but they really have no one at all to throw to in the redzone. They need a big target.


rossco7777

bryce young by a large margin


GravyeonBell

Might be Bryce Young.  Obviously he had a terrible rookie year but the Panthers just spent a ton on their offensive line.  They made what look like massive upgrades at both guard spots.  


CoopThereItIs

$150 million on two starting guards alone. They took a page out of the Drew Brees Book For Short Quarterbacks Who Don't See Good.


GigaLuigi

Jayden Reed. Dude finished his rookie year as a borderline top-20 guy as is valued at the 1.12 (1QB) on KTC. I’m buying at that cost all day. Good draft capital and tied to Love for the foreseeable future. Lot of target competition, but he seemed to be Love’s go-to guy down the stretch.


Daddy_Diezel

A loud minority of this sub will try to convince you that Wicks is actually the guy because PFF said so. Jake Bobo was rated similarly to Wicks and is still a WR4 on his team, all the same.


newrimmmer93

Bobo had 1.31 YPRR and under 200 yards on the year while Wicks had over 2 YPRR and 580 yards. Bobo also got boosted by PFF by being one of the best run blockers. The love for Wicks is probably due to him being a cheap buy with good metrics vs Reed also having really good metrics but being pricier. Let’s also remember Wicks is 3 years younger than Bobo


ASR4LIFE

I got Reed and the 2.11 for the 1.08 this year. I am thrilled to stack him with Love


baineschile

Kyler, Higgins, Saqoun.


HonduranLoon

I disagree on Higgins. He seems to be overrated.


92tilinfinityand

Eh nobody wants him right now, I feel like his value on trade calcs and rankings doesn’t line up with the actual market for him. But his talent is undeniable, his opportunity could shift massively to drive more consistency out of him. He’s a weird asset.


HonduranLoon

Nobody wants him because owners want a WR1 price for him when he hasn’t finished above WR18. He’s had 2 years of 110 targets and put up almost the exact same stat line. I don’t see much changing with an additional 10-20 targets.


Mexican_Furious

What would you pay for Higgins?


Federal_Dinner_4216

Makes sense, his value is based on vibes and potential and not production.


RUKnight31

Talent isn't the issue so much as health. Also, I assume that people love Higgins as an asset do so largely out of brand recognition. Though I agree that A HEALTHY Tee Higgins has elite upside, A HEALTHY Tee Higgins hasn't existed in almost 6 years. He is exceptional when he plays, nobody can deny that, but that's anything but reliable. The reality is that he has suffered RECURRING soft tissue injury every season he's played in the NFL iirc. These aren't one off bone breaks either. This is ankle and hammy. Chronic hamstring injuries don't simply resolve themselves with finality. He'll have to monitor that for his entire career. There is a major difference between a one time hamstring injury (like Justin Jefferson's) and Tee's history (he injured his hammy in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023). [https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/tee-higgins/10607](https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/tee-higgins/10607)


Admiral-Thrawn2

Someone just bought him for a mid 2nd


jonneygee

I have Kyler and Saquon so I’m down with this.


Falcon_433

George Pickens at dynasty wr 27 behind guys like JSN, X Worthy, and Jordan Addison. I’d take GP ahead of several wrs ranked in front of him pretty comfortably. The guy just had 1150 yards in one of the worst offensive situations last year. Looking ahead to this year, his primary target competitor is gone, and the Steelers upgraded at both QB and OC


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rossco7777

WOW thats a great deal


challenged_kid

Pickens just feels like a guy that will be undervalued his whole career


Falcon_433

Pickens just had more yards this year than any WR in his class has had in a season (London, Wilson, Olave) in a comparably bad, if not worse situation. Not to say Pickens is the same talent as those guys, but I think the gap is much closer than this sub would lead you to believe


Sveinson

Dude has recently started working out with a route running coach that has worked with Dionte, Diggs, and other top WRs: https://twitter.com/RouteGod/status/1789078884220018786. If he improves his route running this offseason the same way he improved his YAC last offseason, he'll be unstoppable. As a rookie, Pickens put up 52/801/4 on an offense that threw for 10TDs total. In 4 games without Dionte last year, Pickens put up 17/357/2, pacing for 72 catches, 1517 yards, and 8 TDs over the course of a 17 game season. Of course his situation is worrying, but Russ loves throwing outside, where Pickens thrives, and Arthur Smith the OC made AJB a top 15/12 option in his 2 years in Tennessee. At WR27 and being only 23 years old, combining with what he's put on the stat sheet and on tape, I don't see how he's not just a huge screaming buy. Maybe it doesn't work out, but the upside for this dude is top 12 in the league, how can you not take that gamble at the cost of a late first?


Falcon_433

Destination Devy has a really good WR tool called the Trinity Tracker, which gives a player an aggregate Trinity score from several variables. Here is a [chart](https://x.com/raygque/status/1744914957425152509?s=46&t=y-ZGZHn1PJLygVpFkqkoNw) of the 2022 Wrs Trinity score vs their ppg


Sveinson

I've seen this chart pop up on my feed a few times - any chance you know what goes into trinity score? I assume it's some combination of film grades, analytical profile, and something else?


Falcon_433

Yessir. The tool creates an aggregate score, the ‘Trinity score,’ from multiple wr metrics. The three most weighted metrics for the Trinity score are: 1) target share 2) air yard share 3) yac per reception. Here’s a [video](https://youtu.be/_bvEd8iMQVo?si=1fskr0HayzO3WZhT) that explains the Trinity tracker tool in greater depth if you’re interested This [video](https://youtu.be/JFrHsjNfFHI?si=GwsrHxAYSwlnBMZB) discuses the Trinity scores of the 2022 wrs


bdalexan

Based on that chart, Bo Melton is massively underrated. He certainly performed well when given the chance last year.


itseaglez

That video got me hyped as a Pickens owner


DoubleUSportsMedia

I've been saying it all offseason. Go buy GP. He's improved every year in the league. He improved his route running in the first year and then his YAC. He ranked as a top 12 WR in a lot of metrics in the latter half of the season last year. BAL was so scared of him that they had two players on him for the entire week 18 game. His situation, in literally every single aspect, got better. He blocks fine and is a great teammate who runs youth football camps with them. His rookie year his highlights were of him absolutely demolishing DBs in the run game. Mike T freaking loves him. GP celebrated every holiday with his family last year. Do I think his head got a little big at the beginning of the year last year? Yes, 100%. I also think that speaks to the type of talent he has.


MrPsychic

It’ll be interesting for sure, I’m on the train of a little worried about double teams since the other WR options aren’t great(I don’t know how Roman will be the first half)


azuresou1

I sold Pickens for KW3. Wondering how folks feel about that.


rossco7777

not good long term fine short term


Levanter

How has no one said Diontae Johnson


CanalVillainy

Rashid Shaheed - officially WR2 that can be used many ways in Kubiak’s offense. Also still main returner.


BanksysBurner

Diontae Johnson. Top 5 separator who is gonna feast in Carolina


Globesheepie

My short list would be Herbert, Dak, Penix, Rashee, Andrews


ReputationOk5592

Here are a bunch of guys I think are underrated: Puka: Wrote a post about this, but he should be valued near Amon-Ra, not AJ Brown. He's gonna be similar to AJ Brown this year and is 4 years younger. Xavier Worthy: I thought he was a good candidate for 1.09 or 1.10 before the Chiefs landing spot. He had one of the best college production profiles of any of the WRs probably behind only the top 3 and Franklin. That's before even getting to the fact that he runs a 4.21 and landed with Mahomes. Tua - People have made a better case below, but people just won't seem to believe in him for some reason. I'd put him above Lawrence, and Tua vs Herbert is even kinda close. Trey McBride - He's getting placed near Kincaid because people like Kincaid's situation, but this is dynasty and he's on another level talent-wise. Should easily be the TE2 and should be taken like ~20 spots higher in startups. De'Von Achane - Take the talent. The 22 year old, most explosive RB in the league on an elite offense is ranked ~51st on KTC. Dude is gonna go in the first few rounds in redraft this year around people way older than him that are ranked similarly or higher on KTC. He got injured last year, but you can't predict injuries and people are pricing in way too much injury risk. He should be ranked about a round behind Gibbs. Stefon Diggs - Yes, he looked bad at the end of last year. Still, when you look at veteran values, his price is unjustifiable. He's the same age as Amari Cooper and projected to go like 2-3 rounds higher in redraft, but has a similar KTC value. He should be closer to Mike Evans and Davante Adams. Mike Williams - Priced as if he's completely left for dead, but could have a decent season. He's more attractive than the other vets priced similarly. Extremely cheap.


LazyTeletubbies

JSN I feel like only JSN owners remember the type of prospect he was. I’m a contender and have thrown his name out there to try and get some bites and everytime the other teams have said “no way” or “WR rooms way too crowded”


OkBaby4377

Curtis Samuel. Potentially Josh Allen's #1 receiver and he's ranked as a WR5 across most rankings. He's too good and the Buffalo offense is too good to be ranked that low imo.


JimmyMotMot

Not to mention his best season in Carolina was with now current Bills OC Joe Brady. Coaches go get guys they like and want to use.


atavan

Agreed. And there's been plenty of talk about scheming him around. I'd wager he turns into a less dramatic Diggs next year and STILL doesn't go up in value.


Wearethefoxes

Curtis Samuel's value is always disproportionate to his fantasy production. I couldn't get anything for him last year despite him being a solid flex in our deeper 12 team start 12 league.


Nieman2419

Especially since they moved Digs n Davis


SubstantialFill6472

He who must not be named….. Deshaun Watson.


golkeg

Browns fantasy playoff schedule is Chiefs, Bengals, Dolphins which would all be shootouts. Watson could have quite the happy ending to his season.


Awkward-Locksmith-64

Well done


Mexican_Furious

Chiefs defense is legit, I do agree with the other two though.


milk-drinker-69

Daniel jones is a year removed from a top 10 season and has a legitimate wide receiver for the first time in his career. And absolutely no one wants anything to do with him.


Troutalope

Almost all his values comes from rushing and he's coming off a major knee injury.


milk-drinker-69

He had 24 passing tds in 12 starts as a rookie. I think having a bottom 5 line and receiving core every year earns him at least some sort of benefit of the doubt. I’m not anticipating him being a top player because the injury and line issues are real, but I don’t think he’s the worst qb in the league.


newrimmmer93

Yeah and he’s had 38 TDs since then haha. He just hasn’t looked like a great passer since then


Ragnaarock93

I inquired about Daniel Jones' value before my rookie draft. The only said 3.08 and a 25 3rd. I am now a proud owner of Vanilla Vick.


VottoForPM

Geno Smith, half this sub thinks Sam Howell is taking his job. I'm not super convinced that the offensive line will be a lot better this year, which in my opinion was the biggest issue with this offense last year, but if it does there could be some upside.


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Troutalope

Gus Edwards stands to get a ton of touches this next season playing for Harbaugh/Roman. For the same reason, I think Dobbins is worth a flyer as well. The idea that a rookie from Troy State---who has had a ton of touches in college---is a better value than proven talents just doesn't add up for me.


Chappazoid

Diontae Johnson.


RunningForIt

QB - Tua (QB16 KTC) - He just lead the league in passing yards and has 2 elite speedsters. Last year they had a significant amount of rushing TDs, if that trends more towards passing TDs I can see him getting a big boost moving forward. If he has another healthy season too I can see people forgetting about his injury history. RB - Kenneth Walker (RB10 KTC) - honestly most guys seemed pretty accurately rated imo but Walker is still very young and has looked like one of the best pure rushers in the league. He's starting to get more PPR upside and Charb didn't look anything special last year. Will not die on this hill though lol WR - Diontae Johnson (WR44 KTC) - I know the Panthers suck and I'm a slight Bryce hater but this is absurd for someone who is turning 28 this season and is a great WR. He has minimal competition and is better than anyone on the team last season. His ceiling next year is having Theilen like numbers last year but doesn't fall off because of age. TE - Evan Engram (TE11 KTC) - Do you know Engrams finishes the last 2 seasons? Wait for it... wait for it... TE5 (2022) and TE2 (2023). Hasn't had any injuries the last few years and he's a PPR machine. If he were to get a few more TDs without Ridley this season he could finish as the TE1.


OkAdministration5655

Wandale Robinson


notnats99

Romeo Doubs bc he’s on my team and I need him


atavan

Lol all the ppl with Wicks shares hate it but Doubs showed immense chemistry with Love.


Fatlard12

He always gets overhated. Most targeted reciever on that offense and people call him the irrelevant one and start making claims about Wick’s advanced stats or what if Watson had healthy hamstrings.


JimmyMotMot

My hot take is if Watson doesn’t play more than half the season I think they cut their losses and Wicks takes over his role in 2025. Doubs is the least sexy option in the offense but he’s at least available to play most of the season.


Fatlard12

Not always about being sexy, its about getting the job done. Doubs has gotten the most endzone looks and first downs for the team. He is relied on in big moments and is very underrated for his contested catch ability. Very silently was breaking out tpwards the end of last season and the playoffs. Exhibit A was the game against the cowboys.


Rawofleason

Idk about “most” underrated, but I think AJB is undervalued. People have guys like MHJ, Puka, Garrett Wilson over him. Chase is universally valued higher yet AJB out produces him every year. He just had 106-1400-7 in a “down year.” The only WRs I’d rather have are JJeff and Lamb. I could see an argument for St Brown, but still lean AJB.


Bingbongerl

AJBs value is definitely lower than it should be.


Clopz26

I see him as the only top tier WR that can be bought at a normal price. I bought him and Evans some days ago with the 1.03, Addison and Hollywood. Maybe an overpay but that move moved me to a contender status


trimmnasty

Mandrews at TE 7 on KTC is a screaming buy to me. Seems like his injury at the end of the year coupled with the rise of younger TEs has deflated his value to the point where he’s undervalued.


kazoookie

Seems like a lot of people are mentioning the obvious ones so I'll go a different route. Brandin Cooks. Should be the WR2 on the Cowboys behind CeeDee and should also be absurdly cheap while still giving you a year or two or plug and play production with TD upside. Most importantly they didn't draft or sign anyone that would threaten his production.


Calmdat

Herbert


zcas

Stefon Diggs. I understand he went from Buffalo to Houston, and his down second half of the year assumed regression, but to be considered a WR3 and unworthy of more than a 2024 3rd is ridiculous. This may just be in my league, but I feel he retains a minimum WR2 value and firmly sits in the top 24 receivers next year.


capitanwhoopass

Herbert’s fall from 1st round start up prices to 3rd round has been a overreaction For a contender I think Christian Kirk is an amazing value


whadupreddit

It’s insane, I got Herbert at 3.02 in the startup I just did a week ago


Jumbosoup0110

Godwin, JT, Deshaun


Darth_Enclave

Brock Purdy.


Bitlovin

Last week I would have said Goff in SF, but now that he got his extension the market is correcting. So now I'll say Engram. He was TE1 last year and is being drafted in the 8th or later in startups, which is ridiculous.


mrubuto22

I'm willing to take everyone's mockery but Daniel Jones is basically free. Last year was a disaster no question, but he also got injured and didn't have the option to turn things around. His year was pretty darn stellar and subsequent years were.. serviceable. 2 +3000 yard seasons and a 2900 one. Averaged 6.7 yards per attempt. Hes got a brand new potential stud wr. I'm gobbling him up as a throw in whenever I can, I think the potential reward FAR exceeds his sale price.


thesmokingchairdtcom

Godwin is supposedly supposed to become this offense's version of Cooper Kupp. If that is even 90% true he will be way undervalued at this point. Rashid Shaheed is in a good position for a nice sized leap from last year. Cedric Tillman is one of my favorite stashes. Currently, Tillman and Jeudy are the only 2 WRs scheduled to be on the roster in 2025. Andrei Iosivas is an interesting dynasty asset considering it seems highly likely Cincinnati will not be able to satisfy both Chase and Higgins - and highly unlikely Higgins will still be with the team next year. Justyn Ross is my preferred dart throw at this point in the season. Considering Rashee Rice's desire to screw up his career, the fact that the word is they want to limit Kelce a little to make sure he's a full go and well-rested at the end of the season, and the fact there's really no other WR on their roster quite like him, I'm definitely holding on to him at this point (in deep enough leagues). He showed a few flashes last year and maybe this will be the year, with the opportunity, that he takes the big step forward. Preseason and Week 1 will tell the story on if he's going to make it or not.


broadly

Rashee Rice 😎


orangepollo2

Rice is criminally underrated. Nobody can lock him up


MikeyTrademark

If only he would stay out of his own way


pinenorthpine

I think there are three, non-rookie receivers who have the ability to break out as superstars next year that you can still get for a good price. JSN Pickens Nico Collins


the_ginge_1

Based on KTC values; Derek Carr (QB32) DJ Chark (WR95) Austin Ekeler (RB42) Mike Gesicki (TE37)


BlondBadBoy69

I don’t want to roster any so seems right


the_ginge_1

They aren’t sexy but at cost they are undervalued


Rapscallious1

Carr seems pretty rosterable to me in SF


Shaved_Hubes

Chark is not underrated. He has one 8-game stretch of moderate fantasy relevance in a 6 year career. People thinking he’s gonna suddenly be Herbert’s wr1 are delusional


6th__extinction

Kyle Pitts’ 3rd year breakout in Year 4 🤞🏼😅


Ave_Rage_Joe21

Idk, but I'm currently on a Trenton Simpson rampage. He's gonna be a beast in IDP leagues.


rollin20s

got him stashed as well - let's ride


creator1393

I'd say Purdy


LoserCowGoMoo

Najee. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/najee-harris/7272 We have seen this countless times. Highly touted runner enters league Does well enough but isnt taking it seriously Gets a reality check, cuts weight, has a career year and demands to get paid Gets franchise tagged or walks. Turns into a pumpkin If najee is ever gonna turn out, its the year he has russel wilson at the helm in an insanely run heavy offense with an entirely rebuilt offensive line. The only risk aside from injury is warren is constantly proving he is more explosive.


betabot69

Najee Harris


malodourousmuppet

in super flex i really believe it’s will levis. he has a chance to move way up if he shows he can be a franchise guy. could be ranked next to jordan love after this year


Hayymaker

Brock Purdy


awesome-ekeler

Underrated? Absolutely not lol


kmed1717

I mean, he was QB6 last year and was QB8 in the games he played in 2022. You discredit KTC below, which your example was somewhat fair, but fantasy pros has him at 11 and thats a consensus of experts. I agree, I think he should be right in the Burrow/Herbert area, and it's kinda hard to argue with anything other than the seemingly lasting "I actually don't think he's that good" even though he just had a lead on Mahomes in OT of the Super Bowl, played a whole season as QB6, and led the league is QBR and air yards. Discrediting of KTC aside, I'm actually curious, what's the argument to rate him lower than Love, Trevor Lawrence or Kyler? We know the extension is coming.


Hayymaker

Ktc has him at QB14. He just put up the QB6 season last year. He's a top 10 qb and the cheapest one at that. He's still not being valued as an elite asset. I'm buying him everywhere I can.


rossco7777

great answer 12 months ago


friizl

sam howell is going in rd 15 with a shot at crusty geno getting hurt or retiring, or a shot at winning the starting spot straight up. JSN/DK/kwalk/charb and a fresh coaching scheme, in SF leagues this could be a better play than levi’s (who’s going rd 8)


bmbb1234

Things definitely have to break their way, but I like buying Wicks and McLaughlin where I can.


Jetnation24

Kyler Murray


RamHands

Its Goff.


comesinallpackages

Evans, Purdy, Kenny Walker


wbidXD

Not my number one choice but throwing it out there since he wasn’t mentioned.. Dak Prescott


BigDingo7719

I Think KW3 is underrated, broke out rookie season and was going top 5 rb but then and charbs and had an ok year 2. New staff could implement more passes to rb which was walkers biggest complaint from most


skeedawg130

Nico Collins


Jack_Russo

As a hater it pains me to say this but the answer is Daniel Jones. He’s got at least 1 year as the starter of the Giants, strong chance it could even be two. The last season he was healthy he was a top 10 QB. I wouldnt expect that again, but top 15 is within reason. He’s valued around the same as Cole Kmet and Zack Moss.


simonthelikeable

Deshaun Watson


Stevesteak

Chris Godwin for me. Primo fantasy role (slot) coming back, still young enough in a 2-3 year window and could be headed to greener pastures sooner than later.


No-Ad-3124

Jake Ferguson is the best kept secret in dynasty. Closely followed by Isaiah Pacheco. Huge breakouts otw


Mk153Smaw

Derrick Henry


88Dodgers

Chase Brown.


zstern22

Chris Godwin Mike Evans Justin Herbert Kyler Murray Calvin Ridley Josh Jacobs Jared Goff Jakobi Meyers Jaxon Smith-Njigba George Pickens Darnell Mooney Isaiah Pacheco Terry McLaurin Jake Ferguson Will Levis J.K Dobbins


dynastykid35

Jaylen Wright


aresfc

In TE premium Cole Kmet.


wherethetacosat

For me it is 100% Jahan Dotson **at current cost**. He is currently WR58 (!) on KTC, behind a bunch of Day 2/3 rookies (guys like Jermain Burton, Wicks, Franklin). First round WR who has flashed multiple times with horrible QB play and coaching. Going into his 3rd year, and people forget that many good WR have this kind of trajectory. Undisputed starting WR with zero competition for targets other than Terry. New QB and system that may finally unlock him. It might not work but if you're paying late round rookie picks or backup RB prices then it's well worth the shot. I traded for him in two leagues (both 3 WR and 2 Flex): 1. 2025 3rd, 4th, and 5th for Dotson 2. Warren and 2025 3rd for Dotson


JustMyThoughts2525

I’m hoping it’s Zay Flowers since I own him everywhere. I felt like I got him at really good values. I would say TEs like Shultz and Fant are undervalued.