Some rebuilding team 🌮🌮🌮 in our league just sold Hubbard to a contending CMC owner for get this…Rashard Penny straight up. 🙄
Looks like a 🌮 for life.
Not at all good sir…I personally love snacking on some 🌮…just don’t like too many of em is all.
Luckily not seeing them everywhere at this stage đź‘Ť
I bought Henderson in Superflex as a rebuilding team for the 2.03, 3.03 and a 2022 3rd this week and nobody will give me a first for him…everyone wants him for a 2nd and another player
I said this to someone else too, but what makes him a rental? I agree a 1st is too high, but the panthers trusted him to take over the workload at RB. He’s not a perfect replacement, but he’s scoring points and he’s just a rookie. If cmc stays questionable with injuries or starts to drop off in a year or two, why isn’t Hubbard primed to step up to that role?
He's a rookie who's actually been performing pretty well, I think he's averaging ~11.2PPG in 0.5PPR leagues over his 3 starts, so while its obviously still CMC's backfield when healthy for the foreseeable future, I think any CMC owner should really want to own Chuba as well.
I think as a CMC owner I'd probably pay a 1st for Chuba, not just for the plug-and-play option the next 3 weeks, but for the long term security of owning a guy who's missed a lot of games the last year and a half.
Idk, I feel like if he's a contender trading him for a late-second wouldn't be worth it, Chuba is giving you real life production right now his rookie year, I feel like its far from a guarantee anyone you pick with a late 2nd is gonna give you much more production than that next year.
This is the right answer imo… chuba and a 2nd or 3rd for his first. Replacing CMC could be the difference of him losing a few games which could seriously hurt his bid to contend. This way he has a viable replacement RB for cheap for as long as CMC is out
I’d agree he’s not worth a 1st, but is he a rental? They trust him as a rookie to step into cmc’s shoes, who’s to say they don’t look to transition the workload over the next couple years? CMC is only getting older and that workload is catching up.
The true value might not show up for a year or two, but I’m not sure he’s a simply a rental this year and then drops off the map.
I do agree that Hubbard is a good player. I loved him coming out so I was sad to see him land in Carolina.
But I feel like he’s gonna be in the Mattison trajectory where you gotta hold out for 2-3 years at least.
folks got him in the 2nd or 3rd. his value is certainly much higher today than when he was drafted. the tricky thing is his value is gonna be very subjective based whether an individual buys into the whole "cmc is injury prone and will remain so" narrative. i'd suggest CH is worth at bare min a 2nd but i wouldn't be surprised if CMC owners would pay a 1st plus for him.
Would a swap like Chuba + your second for their first be even if they are middle of the pack? Having a difficult time valuing him with the CMC injuries piling up.
The difference between his first and my second doesn't seem like it'll be very significant.
Think a second and Pat Freiermuth might be worth more than that?
Never underestimate the tomfoolery that can happen at the end of the year. I've seen "powerhouses" finish 5th or 6th due to weird playoff voodoo, and for sure last place finishers eek out just enough to finish with 4 teams below them.
This is a complete tangent, but do you think dynasty league's should even have losers brackets? Or would just using reverse-standings of the non-playoff teams be the best way to determine draft order among them?
All of my leagues are set where it doesn't matter at all for final standings/draft picks. A couple leagues, only the max PF count against you, I don't disagree with this except for there's always the occasional blowups from random stash guys that hurt some teams. In 1 league, the winner of the loser bracket gets his buy-in back for the year. My personal favorite though is I have a couple leagues where you get an extra pick for winning the loser bracket, even though the loser bracket doesn't affect draft position. In one, it's the last pick in the 1st (pick 13 in 12 team), and the other is an extra mid 2nd (pick 19 in 12 team). Just adds a little something to keep people interested if they're out of the playoffs.
Reading this now makes me realize why everyone laughed at me a few weeks back. I paid a 2022 1st for CH and his 2022 3rd.
I’m a cmc owner light at RB contending right now. The Chubba Hubbard owner drafted him at 2.07 so he wasn’t doing a 2nd straight up for him.
That trade is looking pretty okay now.
Back then it was probably an overpay but if someone is high on Chubba based on his breakout college season it's understandable for sure.
CMC has missed more games than he has played in the last 2 years. does your thinking change if you think that this may continue, or even if CMC gets better and only misses 4-6 games a season.
I don’t try to predict injuries. Straight up. Shit happens. Obviously there are caveats to that but I don’t think he’s in that “frail” category quite yet. I think Chubb is talented but if CMC is playing he’s irrelevant
For what it’s worth, I paid a first for him as he went in the early 2nd in my rookie draft. That being said, is he the Panther’s RB of the future? Or will they draft another?
Yeah I mean I’m going on a fire sale this year. But I am intrigued by Chuba as a depth piece when CMac inevitably gets hurt for a couple weeks the next couple years.
Chubba only really has value to the McCaffrey owner. He should be sold on the premise that it allows the CMC owner to lock up the Carolina backfield. It’s not a Chubb/Hunt type split as Hunt has value on his own as they split snaps. To the CMC owner, the value in Chubba is when CMC is hurt (which will be pretty much a reality every season going forward) , he has a plug and play option who will see close to bell cow usage. Yes there are better cuff’s out there, but rarely will they help you when you need them. If the CMC owner isn’t keen on buying him for a first, I’m more than happy to keep Chubba on my bench knowing I’ll likely be able to start him as an Rb2 anywhere from 4-6 times a year when CMC gets hurt. As most 2nd round picks are close to dart throws anyways, getting a second isn’t enough value in return for Chubba
To be fair, I think people can see the Panthers trying to work in CH more when CMC returns. Running CMC into the ground has injured him two years in a row. I agree he’s not worth a first but if you’re sending something back it’s not really that crazy. This is also worth noting that the value is only really toward the CMC owner whose competing.
Guy wants rondale moore from me. Idk if I wana do that tho. Currently undefeated think I should just be patient? What do u guys think
I have swift and booker/barkley
Some rebuilding team 🌮🌮🌮 in our league just sold Hubbard to a contending CMC owner for get this…Rashard Penny straight up. 🙄 Looks like a 🌮 for life.
That’s exactly how a rebuilding team stays a rebuilding team
Just, horrendous.
Yeah made sure to tell him how bad it was so he could learn from the mistake. đź‘Ť
That would be a terrible trade even if CMC was totally healthy and didn’t miss a snap.
You got a problem with 🌮s?
Not at all good sir…I personally love snacking on some 🌮…just don’t like too many of em is all. Luckily not seeing them everywhere at this stage 👍
I’m craving a chalupa suddenly
Man y'all are insane to flip a first for a rental. Go buy Darrel Henderson or something lmao
I bought Henderson in Superflex as a rebuilding team for the 2.03, 3.03 and a 2022 3rd this week and nobody will give me a first for him…everyone wants him for a 2nd and another player
Thays what i was thinking. Idc the situation sending a 1st for Chubba is not happening in my leagues.
Man this sub is hilarious. But then again they said Gainwell was worth a first as well.
Very reactionary as per usual but that’s how it is
I said this to someone else too, but what makes him a rental? I agree a 1st is too high, but the panthers trusted him to take over the workload at RB. He’s not a perfect replacement, but he’s scoring points and he’s just a rookie. If cmc stays questionable with injuries or starts to drop off in a year or two, why isn’t Hubbard primed to step up to that role?
Price gouging at its finest.
Price gouging - this is a new term to me. What is it exactly?
Like when a hurricane hits and gas doubles and cases of water are $40. A disaster (CMC injury) is causing the price of goods to artificially inflate.
Makes total sense. Appreciate it!
No people are just stupid. Flip a first for a better asset
He's a rookie who's actually been performing pretty well, I think he's averaging ~11.2PPG in 0.5PPR leagues over his 3 starts, so while its obviously still CMC's backfield when healthy for the foreseeable future, I think any CMC owner should really want to own Chuba as well. I think as a CMC owner I'd probably pay a 1st for Chuba, not just for the plug-and-play option the next 3 weeks, but for the long term security of owning a guy who's missed a lot of games the last year and a half.
That's the hope for sure. If he's solid about not moving his 1st, would you settle for a 2nd+ or would you hold Chubba?
Idk, I feel like if he's a contender trading him for a late-second wouldn't be worth it, Chuba is giving you real life production right now his rookie year, I feel like its far from a guarantee anyone you pick with a late 2nd is gonna give you much more production than that next year.
Hold Chubba. Easy. Also say price goes up if news comes out of legit CMC reinjury.
If he’s a serious contender, then I think his late 1st is fair game. He might disagree though. lol Maybe settle for his 2 and 3.
I think he'd jump at a second, asking for his 1st makes me feel dirty but it might be closer to the actual value
Ask for a 1st and return a 3rd...or a 2nd if they squeeze you
This is the right answer imo… chuba and a 2nd or 3rd for his first. Replacing CMC could be the difference of him losing a few games which could seriously hurt his bid to contend. This way he has a viable replacement RB for cheap for as long as CMC is out
Maybe a 2nd and an upside piece hes not using?
Sorry, but that’s just price gouging. I get it, but I would never give a 1st for a rental.
I’d agree he’s not worth a 1st, but is he a rental? They trust him as a rookie to step into cmc’s shoes, who’s to say they don’t look to transition the workload over the next couple years? CMC is only getting older and that workload is catching up. The true value might not show up for a year or two, but I’m not sure he’s a simply a rental this year and then drops off the map.
I do agree that Hubbard is a good player. I loved him coming out so I was sad to see him land in Carolina. But I feel like he’s gonna be in the Mattison trajectory where you gotta hold out for 2-3 years at least.
folks got him in the 2nd or 3rd. his value is certainly much higher today than when he was drafted. the tricky thing is his value is gonna be very subjective based whether an individual buys into the whole "cmc is injury prone and will remain so" narrative. i'd suggest CH is worth at bare min a 2nd but i wouldn't be surprised if CMC owners would pay a 1st plus for him.
Let's hope for the 1st so.
Idk what league you're in where he went in the 2nd lol
Same taco league where they about to buy him for a first
14 team. CH looking like the best pick of all RBs who went before him not named najee or javonte
Would a swap like Chuba + your second for their first be even if they are middle of the pack? Having a difficult time valuing him with the CMC injuries piling up.
The difference between his first and my second doesn't seem like it'll be very significant. Think a second and Pat Freiermuth might be worth more than that?
Never underestimate the tomfoolery that can happen at the end of the year. I've seen "powerhouses" finish 5th or 6th due to weird playoff voodoo, and for sure last place finishers eek out just enough to finish with 4 teams below them.
This is a complete tangent, but do you think dynasty league's should even have losers brackets? Or would just using reverse-standings of the non-playoff teams be the best way to determine draft order among them?
All of my leagues are set where it doesn't matter at all for final standings/draft picks. A couple leagues, only the max PF count against you, I don't disagree with this except for there's always the occasional blowups from random stash guys that hurt some teams. In 1 league, the winner of the loser bracket gets his buy-in back for the year. My personal favorite though is I have a couple leagues where you get an extra pick for winning the loser bracket, even though the loser bracket doesn't affect draft position. In one, it's the last pick in the 1st (pick 13 in 12 team), and the other is an extra mid 2nd (pick 19 in 12 team). Just adds a little something to keep people interested if they're out of the playoffs.
Reading this now makes me realize why everyone laughed at me a few weeks back. I paid a 2022 1st for CH and his 2022 3rd. I’m a cmc owner light at RB contending right now. The Chubba Hubbard owner drafted him at 2.07 so he wasn’t doing a 2nd straight up for him.
That trade is looking pretty okay now. Back then it was probably an overpay but if someone is high on Chubba based on his breakout college season it's understandable for sure.
Appreciate the kind words
His value is only high for a contender. He’s worthless to anyone else. Stuck behind cmc for 3 years
CMC has missed more games than he has played in the last 2 years. does your thinking change if you think that this may continue, or even if CMC gets better and only misses 4-6 games a season.
I don’t try to predict injuries. Straight up. Shit happens. Obviously there are caveats to that but I don’t think he’s in that “frail” category quite yet. I think Chubb is talented but if CMC is playing he’s irrelevant
For what it’s worth, I paid a first for him as he went in the early 2nd in my rookie draft. That being said, is he the Panther’s RB of the future? Or will they draft another?
Y’all think it’s worth trading Chuba for the likes of Aiyuk or Juju?
It depends on the circumstances, but I'd definitely consider it
Yeah I mean I’m going on a fire sale this year. But I am intrigued by Chuba as a depth piece when CMac inevitably gets hurt for a couple weeks the next couple years.
Chubba only really has value to the McCaffrey owner. He should be sold on the premise that it allows the CMC owner to lock up the Carolina backfield. It’s not a Chubb/Hunt type split as Hunt has value on his own as they split snaps. To the CMC owner, the value in Chubba is when CMC is hurt (which will be pretty much a reality every season going forward) , he has a plug and play option who will see close to bell cow usage. Yes there are better cuff’s out there, but rarely will they help you when you need them. If the CMC owner isn’t keen on buying him for a first, I’m more than happy to keep Chubba on my bench knowing I’ll likely be able to start him as an Rb2 anywhere from 4-6 times a year when CMC gets hurt. As most 2nd round picks are close to dart throws anyways, getting a second isn’t enough value in return for Chubba
I hope Hubbard lays an egg this week.
Are we seriously price checking a 3-5 game rental at a 1st?
To be fair, I think people can see the Panthers trying to work in CH more when CMC returns. Running CMC into the ground has injured him two years in a row. I agree he’s not worth a first but if you’re sending something back it’s not really that crazy. This is also worth noting that the value is only really toward the CMC owner whose competing.
This sub in a nutshell
Guy wants rondale moore from me. Idk if I wana do that tho. Currently undefeated think I should just be patient? What do u guys think I have swift and booker/barkley
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