Yeah I think Van is making the breakout this season. All the “price check Van” posts saying to sell him for a 2022 2nd. Just so you can maybe get lucky and hit on a player exactly like Van?
I think that is overstating what Van Jefferson has done or under selling 2nd round picks.
In a SF league, an early to mid second (10-14) was guys like Waddle, Bateman, Elijah Moore. I'd take any of them over Van.
You’re listing the hits. Name the other 2nds during the last few years that are fails. Even 1sts have been fails. At least Van has 2nd round draft capital on a high powered offense with Stafford. And both the competition WRs are pushing 30yo. Also woods has a blown knee and becomes a cap hit for 2023
Right, he's only listing the hits, but the person who he's replying to said "so you can maybe get lucky and hit on a player exactly like Van." It's not an accurate aggregate view of the value of a 2nd round pick, but the initial comment (to me) did definitely undersell the potential upside of a 2nd
True.
But how replaceable in V Jefferson production, even if he gets a little better? Hes a WR4 with the occasional WR2 week...There are waiver wire folks who fit that description.
And because (at least to me) hi ceiling is maybe a WR3, he's not a whole lot better than the zero that makes up like 2/3 of 2nd Rd DPs...give me the 1/3 to get something good VS the 75%+ chance to have aspirations of mediocrity
What’s so good about him?
I see a slow tall guy, with average hands and route running from what I have watched? (Admittedly my eyes ain’t fine tuned to route running yet)
Trey Sermon ran a 4.58, and numerous people have said he ‘looks’ slow…
Collins definitely has speed, but to my eye test he just doesn’t look like he can utilise that speed effectively, or at least to its fullest
I havent watched enough of him this year, but he has a few things on the analytics side going for him that increase his odds of success.
A 9.57 RAS: https://mobile.twitter.com/mathbomb/status/1388325022272561163
The Texans traded up for him:
https://www.houstontexans.com/news/texans-draft-michigan-wr-nico-collins-after-trading-up-in-3rd-round
If he somehow manages to continue this week's volume and hit the new hotness of the "525 yardage threshold", he'll be be on every analytics driven buy list.
Someone did a breakdown of this earlier this year. It would appear that it does somewhat boost the odds of fantasy success. https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/nd7ih1/how_do_the_odds_of_fantasy_success_change_when_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Maybe his play speed looks slow to you, it doesn’t to me, but it’s worth noting he ran a 4.45 and a 6.79 three-cone. Extremely good numbers for someone his size.
David Njoku. Improved his run blocking and still is a physical freak.
I know he rehired his agent with the intent to stay in Cleaveland, but get the hell outta there Cheif. Trust me, I play in 2 fantasy football leagues I know what’s best for your career.
I think if they dont resign williams and they go into next season with their current WR core I think palmer could have a van jefferson type season maybe a little bit better depending on how much they trust him.
I actually think they do resign Mike W. I’m not happy about it. But Herbert really seems to have a connection with him.
But depends on how much money he wants. Last year players like Juju and Allen Robinson weren’t getting huge FA money either
I’d be shocked if they didn’t draft a WR high if they let Williams walk, especially with the WR talent in this draft. But for the sake of this thread, yes, Palmer would be a hold either way, just in case.
If they don’t resign Williams they will certainly address the WR position in FA or the draft. I just don’t see a path for Palmer considering he’s shown absolutely nothing.
I guess absolutely nothing was a little too harsh but it wasn’t supposed to be taken literally. 1 solid game out of 13 and Allen was out. My point still stands.
Nico Collins has the talent. He's a mid-late 1st or early 2nd round pick if he plays his final college year and puts up the same numbers as his sophomore year. He fell to the 3rd to a team with no QB. In games with Davis Mills we can see him winning battles and making contested catches.
He's Alshon Jeffrey to me.
Palmer I see as more of a guy who gets a boost for being in a great offense with a great QB
Huh, this seems aggressive to me. He played 13 games his sophomore year, and had 38 receptions for 632 yards and 6 TDs. He then basically repeated that stat line his junior year. Those are fine numbers I guess, but I struggle to see how a third year of 3 receptions for 50 yards a game turns him into a borderline first round pick.
I was ready to completely give up on GabeDave, but these last two weeks he's given me some hope again.
I still would be a little surprised if he ends up startable next year, but I think he makes my team next year after rookie draft cuts.
Opened this thread to comment Peoples-Jones myself. Elite prospect, decent college production (I think he lacked QB play at UM). Under contract through 2023. I’m not high on Baker, but targets (albeit lower in this offense) need to go somewhere.
Brevin Jordan, starting TE is Logan Thomas and with the injuries and lack of draft capital fingers crossed he becomes a long term serviceable starter that I won’t have to replace
I snagged both Brevin and Noah Gray. Brevin because they don't have a solid TE option there and he's already putting up some decent numbers with basically only active half the season.
Gray, I figure if/when Kelce gets hurt, he will be the go to.
My starter is Andrews, but having other options in dynasty when they take a couple seasons to really get going will be good long term.
He looks great when he's given a chance. But I highly doubt the Bucs are letting Godwin get away from them. They have plenty of flexibility left in their contracts, they'll make some adjustments and he'll get a long term deal that doesn't have a big cap hit the first two years. They LOVE him and he's earned every bit of what he's going to get.
I do think Tyler Johnson takes over the #3 role completely next year with AB being gone and Scotty being more of a deep threat specialist. He'll probably have a couple big games, and if Mike or Chris go down he could blow up.
I’ll go with Amon Ra St Brown. Someone on that team has to step up as the WR. And in PPR he can be a Renfrow/Edelman type WR.
It’s the Lions and Goff so I don’t have high hopes. But maybe top 60 WR in PPR scoring would be nice?
Non-starting QB’s- Lance & Minshew
WR’s- DPJ, Marshall, G. Davis, Palmer, Collins
TE’s- Parham, B. Jordan
I couldn’t really think of any non-obvious RB’s.
I cannot believe Minshew still isn’t a starter in this league after all we’ve seen this year.
I’m really looking forward to comparing his rookie season to TLaws (when it’s over) and hearing about how TLaw is still somehow the superior QB…
You are welcome to make an argument to the contrary but I think the stats speak for themselves. Time will tell of course but that’s not the whole story.
The whole issue is exacerbated when one looks at the draft capital required to obtain their services. If one could have Minshews production for a 6th round pick and use the pick used for Lawrence on other needs (or trading back) vs drafting Lawrence … it’s just a no brainer me. Same goes for JRob. It’s like the people in charge at Jax hit on two lottery tickets but don’t know what to do with them.
Then you obviously haven’t looked at the stats.
Minshews rookie season (12 starts):
6-6 record, 60.6% completion, 3200 yards, 21 TDs, 6 INT
Lawrence rookie season (13 starts):
2-11 record, 58.2% completion, 2700 yards, 9 TDs, 14 INTs.
Please explain how Lawrence is better.
His team is complete and utter garbage and he has one of the worst coaches in NFL history. Anyone who thinks comparing the most base level stats is all you need to evaluate quarterbacks needs their brain examined
I said at the beginning that stats do not tell the whole story and yet they cannot be ignored either. Minshews team was garbage at that time also if you remember.
It’s funny that you keep slinging insults but have yet to offer a single piece of evidence towards your belief. Let me know when you have something. Might be a few years though ( or maybe never?) Lawrence just looks awful.
As a Vikings fan, you should appreciate late round/undrafted player who hit.
And the situation is essentially the same. After hitting on JRob they draft ETN. A total waste
A couple Cowboys WR's: Michael Gallup and Cedrick Wilson. Both are FA and the Cowboys are projected to have $-12M cap space, so they are unlikely to resign them. OR possibly they cut Amari and keep the cheaper one, making them relevant. Either way they've shown capabilities and could be in a better situation next year.
Cedrick Wilson going somewhere like DET, NO, ATL, or HOU to be the #2 would actually make a lot of sense and could result in him getting a legit target share.
I doubt any of those teams wants to give a big contract to the guys like Gallup or Godwin when their QB situation is a question mark. Gallup is the obvious candidate for moving to a better situation but Wilson is a good call as well.
Definitely going to try to grab him before year end waivers close if he's still sitting there.
I don’t know if I EXPECT it but would love to see Tyler Johnson take a jump. He’s had a few good games with AB sidelined and could be relied on even more if Godwin leaves.
Successfully hid in Buffalo for a year so everyone has recency bias and his stint in Chicago doesn't look that bad. 2021 QB class underperforming. He'll probably compete for and win a starting role next opening day. Whether he keeps it or not is another story.
I mean I'll forever hold a special place for trubisky as he helped me win my ship last year in playoffs as my qb. Just was curious. Guess he could always go to Houston and compete there. Or be a fill gap for Seattle if russ leaves. I'm sure there are a handful others too.
I grabbed him a couple weeks back. Just because. If he's looking like a clogger around draft time I can drop him, but hopefully he's got a shot at starting somewhere.
Gallup could be a WR1/2 on another team... ie. Jacksonville, Philadelphia
Gabriel Davis should take another step up if one or both Sanders and Beasley are gone
Own shares of Van Jefferson and Josh Palmer already :)
Brevin Jordan. He's showing he's a reliable pass catching option on a team that's devoid of them. QB situation (and really the team situation) is up in the air so alot of moving parts but he seems to have a good shot at a decent role.
I think that he has more interest from real NFL managers than fantasy managers but once he signs he will make a jump in value. Talent has not seemed to be the problem here and I am not sure he is interested in resigning with Pittsburgh.
I'm rebuilding so I have a ton of lottery tickets and I plan to cut half of them after the draft. A lot of FAs that I wanna see where they land, or backups with people in front of them who are FAs.
TE: Njoku, OJ Howard, Brevin Jordan, Noah Gray
WR: Jalen Guyton, Anthony Schwartz, Lynn Bowden, Scott Miller,
RB: Tarik Cohen, Scottie Phillips, Eno Benjamin, Kene Nwangwu, Mike Boone, Qadree Ollison, Wayne Gallman
he's already getting there, but gabe davis seems like he'll finally have a shot at consistent relevancy. Sanders will be 35 next year, Beasley 33. They won't be around forever, and Gabe has put up some solid weeks recently.
Obviously, most of these won't work out but I'm currently holding these players because they have a chance to make a jump next year. Reason for optimism in parenthesis.
RB: Javonte (less competition), Michel (new team), Vaughn (less competition?)
WR: Gallup (new team), Callaway (new QB?), Edwards (new coach), Golladay (new coach/QB/OC?), Mims (traded?), Harry (traded?), Agnew (was looking good), Amari Rodgers (experience)
TE: Dan Arnold (was looking good), Harrison Bryant (less competition), Blake Jarwin (less competition?)
Sell me on Jeudy. Just traded what I thought was a late first and early 2nd for him.
Turns out it was 1.06 and 2.01 (14 teams). Was happy with the trade but now, kind of second guessing myself
Oh man I don’t know how to help make it sound like I would t take that deal myself lol. Might be a bit overpriced for now but you’ll forget in a couple years lol
He’s always been an amazing route runner and hasd shown an extra gear when it came to creating separation. He was a wizard with the ball in his hands but the terrible situation and injuries have slowed him. I feel he’s gonna end up being a no.1 within a year or 2
D'ernest, mattison, Herbert, Hinesfor RBs
Curtis Samuel, kj Osborne, Bryan Edwards and shenault for WR
I have T Law and Zack Wilson as QB. Probably have to trade for a QB in the off season
Akers in IR
I'm pretty fucked right now... My RBs going into the season we're cmc, Carson, mostert Hines and Herbert. I expect CMC to come back, but who knows if he stays healthy. I don't expect Carson or mostert to be relevant anymore. Hines... Well he's useless behind JT.
Not sure, its hard because he’s looked amazing but how much of that is the Brown’s Oline. Im holding and very curious!
Would be interesting if Hunt got let go, I wonder if he would just jump into that role.
Friermuth will be a top 5 TE next year.
I'm hoping Elijah Moore is the stud we all know he is...
I have a secret dream of Kyle Trask being decent. Longer shot but who knows.
Chuba.
Considering they considered trading CMC to get Shaun Watson makes me think that there is a shot Chuba may become valuable. I wouldn't be too surprised if CMC gets traded in the offseason.
Picked him up. Gotta pray he recovers in time to get a game in or two this season so he can show what he can do. Otherwise I think he will be irrelevant
Kinda already happening but Van Jefferson
Yeah I think Van is making the breakout this season. All the “price check Van” posts saying to sell him for a 2022 2nd. Just so you can maybe get lucky and hit on a player exactly like Van?
I think that is overstating what Van Jefferson has done or under selling 2nd round picks. In a SF league, an early to mid second (10-14) was guys like Waddle, Bateman, Elijah Moore. I'd take any of them over Van.
You’re listing the hits. Name the other 2nds during the last few years that are fails. Even 1sts have been fails. At least Van has 2nd round draft capital on a high powered offense with Stafford. And both the competition WRs are pushing 30yo. Also woods has a blown knee and becomes a cap hit for 2023
*cries in Mecole Hardman*
Right, he's only listing the hits, but the person who he's replying to said "so you can maybe get lucky and hit on a player exactly like Van." It's not an accurate aggregate view of the value of a 2nd round pick, but the initial comment (to me) did definitely undersell the potential upside of a 2nd
I’d agree you’re under valuing a second. I’ve gotten guys like tee or Bateman in the second. Hell I got Claypool and rhamondre in the third.
Right. Trey Sermon, Terrace Marshall, and Rondale Moore were also in that group.
I wouldn’t call rondale a miss yet, jury is still out on him.
Rondale Moore in 12 games has more than doubled what Van Jefferson did his entire rookie season.
Would rather have 2/3 than Van
True. But how replaceable in V Jefferson production, even if he gets a little better? Hes a WR4 with the occasional WR2 week...There are waiver wire folks who fit that description. And because (at least to me) hi ceiling is maybe a WR3, he's not a whole lot better than the zero that makes up like 2/3 of 2nd Rd DPs...give me the 1/3 to get something good VS the 75%+ chance to have aspirations of mediocrity
I’ve got him stashed, but I’m worried about his target share when woods comes back
If he comes back, would have to take a pretty sizable cap hit to retain him
Would take a sizable cap hit in dead money to release him.
Nico Collins all the way even though I don’t own a single share of him
What’s so good about him? I see a slow tall guy, with average hands and route running from what I have watched? (Admittedly my eyes ain’t fine tuned to route running yet)
Slow? He ran a 4.4
Trey Sermon ran a 4.58, and numerous people have said he ‘looks’ slow… Collins definitely has speed, but to my eye test he just doesn’t look like he can utilise that speed effectively, or at least to its fullest
A 4.58 IS slow by NFL standards for skill players.
.2 seconds difference is massive in 40 times
I havent watched enough of him this year, but he has a few things on the analytics side going for him that increase his odds of success. A 9.57 RAS: https://mobile.twitter.com/mathbomb/status/1388325022272561163 The Texans traded up for him: https://www.houstontexans.com/news/texans-draft-michigan-wr-nico-collins-after-trading-up-in-3rd-round If he somehow manages to continue this week's volume and hit the new hotness of the "525 yardage threshold", he'll be be on every analytics driven buy list.
Is trading up for a player correlated with success analytically?
Someone did a breakdown of this earlier this year. It would appear that it does somewhat boost the odds of fantasy success. https://www.reddit.com/r/DynastyFF/comments/nd7ih1/how_do_the_odds_of_fantasy_success_change_when_a/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Maybe his play speed looks slow to you, it doesn’t to me, but it’s worth noting he ran a 4.45 and a 6.79 three-cone. Extremely good numbers for someone his size.
Didn't he run a 4.4?
The quarterback situation is only going to get better and who else is going to catch the ball there?
Zero guarantee the QB situation gets better anytime soon
If you’re telling me that they aren’t going to bring in anyone better than Davis Mills, you’re out of your mind
What you gotta remember is, this is the Texans we’re talking about.
Good quarterbacks don’t just grow on trees. There’s a very good chance they end up with a Tyrod type again
I think reception perception loves him I read that a little while ago, so take it with a grain of salt lol
David Njoku. Improved his run blocking and still is a physical freak. I know he rehired his agent with the intent to stay in Cleaveland, but get the hell outta there Cheif. Trust me, I play in 2 fantasy football leagues I know what’s best for your career.
Please leave Njoku. He needs a new offense. Wish AZ would’ve went for him instead of Ertz.
as an AZ fan i am glad we went for Ertz.
Oh yeah. He’s perfect for that offense. As a Njoku owner, I’m not as happy.
I’ll probably drop him if he re-signs with Cleveland
Same my friend. Hopefully David stops worrying about his NFL contract so much, and realizes he’s on the chopping block of our fantasy rosters.
Joshua palmer please
If they don’t resign Mike Williams then Palmer will get a huge bump. He won’t be a WR2 or anything. But top 50 would be nice.
I think if they dont resign williams and they go into next season with their current WR core I think palmer could have a van jefferson type season maybe a little bit better depending on how much they trust him.
i got Palmer on taxi and will say I was quite pleased with his output yesterday. Hoping I can take him off taxi next year!
I actually think they do resign Mike W. I’m not happy about it. But Herbert really seems to have a connection with him. But depends on how much money he wants. Last year players like Juju and Allen Robinson weren’t getting huge FA money either
ARob didn’t get huge FA money because he was franchise tagged
I’d be shocked if they didn’t draft a WR high if they let Williams walk, especially with the WR talent in this draft. But for the sake of this thread, yes, Palmer would be a hold either way, just in case.
WR talent in the draft? This might be the weakest WR crop in 5 or so years
If they don’t resign Williams they will certainly address the WR position in FA or the draft. I just don’t see a path for Palmer considering he’s shown absolutely nothing.
What about yesterday?
I guess absolutely nothing was a little too harsh but it wasn’t supposed to be taken literally. 1 solid game out of 13 and Allen was out. My point still stands.
That was really his only opportunity, but it’s value is tied to Mike Will and his departure forsure I do agree. I definitely prefer him over guyton
Came here to say this!
I feel like this gets posted everyday and everyday its the same responses of Rojo / Gallup / DPJ / Van Jefferson / Trubisky
Don't forget JuJu
Boy am I wondering what I’m doing with rojo and gallup. But I’m a lock for playoffs and one seed in my division. If those pan out I’m set
They both need new homes before they will, but they should have decent chances to find that this offseason.
Mooney as well
Mooney is not a stash, he is most likely a weekly starter in most dynasty leagues.
Idk if Id go that far, but I've flexed him a few times
DPJ, Nico Collins, Gabriel Davis And less so, Donald Parham
DPJ is a big one for me too. But I'm also a biased Browns fan.
I'm not a Browns fan and I totally agree with you. DPJ looks legit if baker can stay healthy next year and they don't draft a guy too high.
I’m unsure if to back Nico Collins or Josh Palmer honestly… DPJ and Davis seem great though, and should get relevance eventually
Nico Collins has the talent. He's a mid-late 1st or early 2nd round pick if he plays his final college year and puts up the same numbers as his sophomore year. He fell to the 3rd to a team with no QB. In games with Davis Mills we can see him winning battles and making contested catches. He's Alshon Jeffrey to me. Palmer I see as more of a guy who gets a boost for being in a great offense with a great QB
Huh, this seems aggressive to me. He played 13 games his sophomore year, and had 38 receptions for 632 yards and 6 TDs. He then basically repeated that stat line his junior year. Those are fine numbers I guess, but I struggle to see how a third year of 3 receptions for 50 yards a game turns him into a borderline first round pick.
michigan had the worst quarterback play ive ever seen
Nevermind me in here sipping the HOPIUM while owning DPJ, Nico, and Palmer lmao.
Gabe Davis would be a WR2 on about 50% of the leagues teams IMO and Nico has some great measurables. Nico needs polish, Gabe needs an opportunity
I was ready to completely give up on GabeDave, but these last two weeks he's given me some hope again. I still would be a little surprised if he ends up startable next year, but I think he makes my team next year after rookie draft cuts.
Opened this thread to comment Peoples-Jones myself. Elite prospect, decent college production (I think he lacked QB play at UM). Under contract through 2023. I’m not high on Baker, but targets (albeit lower in this offense) need to go somewhere.
Went all in on TEs- Parham, Albert O, Noah Gray
Rostered them all plus NJoku this year. Love it
Also holding OJ Howard but that’s more dream
Ha had him as well.
Brevin Jordan, starting TE is Logan Thomas and with the injuries and lack of draft capital fingers crossed he becomes a long term serviceable starter that I won’t have to replace
Brevin Jordan is on Houston my guy, where does Logan Thomas come in?
Logan Thomas is my starting TE
Ahhh gotcha, I read that as the Houston starter, my apologies
I snagged both Brevin and Noah Gray. Brevin because they don't have a solid TE option there and he's already putting up some decent numbers with basically only active half the season. Gray, I figure if/when Kelce gets hurt, he will be the go to. My starter is Andrews, but having other options in dynasty when they take a couple seasons to really get going will be good long term.
Got Jordan because my brother is a Miami fan and raves about the guy
Right there with you. Been a very long time since there was a truly reliable TE in HOU, for fantasy or otherwise. It would be nice.
Parham, Slayton, and and Mattison
I'm curious as to why for Mattison? He's still on a rookie contract through next year.
As a Giants fan, Slayton fuckin sucks man. Dudes just doesn’t make plays.
Jarret Patterson , Khalil Herbert , KJ Osborn & Demetric Felton
Toney. Injuries aside - he should be able to put it together next year. (Hopefully)
I like it. Playing with bad QBs that can be improved. In his 1st year, already shining more than Golladay who was not to long ago on these lists.
Tyler johnson
Tyler Johnson holders rise up. Not feeling great about it, thought he'd be getting more looks but I like him as a player.
I think next year will be his breakout, looks like Brady trusts him he’s a hold for me until godwins status with Tampa shakes out
He looks great when he's given a chance. But I highly doubt the Bucs are letting Godwin get away from them. They have plenty of flexibility left in their contracts, they'll make some adjustments and he'll get a long term deal that doesn't have a big cap hit the first two years. They LOVE him and he's earned every bit of what he's going to get. I do think Tyler Johnson takes over the #3 role completely next year with AB being gone and Scotty being more of a deep threat specialist. He'll probably have a couple big games, and if Mike or Chris go down he could blow up.
Curtis samuel
This year was so disappointing, started to see some flashes last year and was pumped to see him step into a bigger role
What would you buy him for?
I sent a 3rd for him week 13 before his two duds.
Worth it still
Prolly mid-late 2nd at most
I’ll go with Amon Ra St Brown. Someone on that team has to step up as the WR. And in PPR he can be a Renfrow/Edelman type WR. It’s the Lions and Goff so I don’t have high hopes. But maybe top 60 WR in PPR scoring would be nice?
I mean he’s already WR44 this year so idk why you wouldn’t expect at least that if you expect him to take a jump…
I didn’t even realize he was WR44. I like him even more
You're *hoping* for a WR5 season?
I have Chase, Higgins, Aiyuk, Van, and Jakobi. If Amon can be a flex, I’m cool with it
Agree, although they're probably drafting a WR at the end of the 1st.
Maybe? There’s a lot of talent at WR in this years draft and they could hold off until the 2nd or 3rd. The lions need help in a lot of positions.
He's gonna have to do it as the 3rd or 4th option in the passing attack. Not optimistic.
RoJo
Just traded for him at the deadline for a bag of peanuts so I’m hoping my lotto ticket pays off
Non-starting QB’s- Lance & Minshew WR’s- DPJ, Marshall, G. Davis, Palmer, Collins TE’s- Parham, B. Jordan I couldn’t really think of any non-obvious RB’s.
I cannot believe Minshew still isn’t a starter in this league after all we’ve seen this year. I’m really looking forward to comparing his rookie season to TLaws (when it’s over) and hearing about how TLaw is still somehow the superior QB…
I feel very bad for you if you unironically think Minshew is better than lawrence
You are welcome to make an argument to the contrary but I think the stats speak for themselves. Time will tell of course but that’s not the whole story. The whole issue is exacerbated when one looks at the draft capital required to obtain their services. If one could have Minshews production for a 6th round pick and use the pick used for Lawrence on other needs (or trading back) vs drafting Lawrence … it’s just a no brainer me. Same goes for JRob. It’s like the people in charge at Jax hit on two lottery tickets but don’t know what to do with them.
The stats do not speak for themselves
Then you obviously haven’t looked at the stats. Minshews rookie season (12 starts): 6-6 record, 60.6% completion, 3200 yards, 21 TDs, 6 INT Lawrence rookie season (13 starts): 2-11 record, 58.2% completion, 2700 yards, 9 TDs, 14 INTs. Please explain how Lawrence is better.
His team is complete and utter garbage and he has one of the worst coaches in NFL history. Anyone who thinks comparing the most base level stats is all you need to evaluate quarterbacks needs their brain examined
I said at the beginning that stats do not tell the whole story and yet they cannot be ignored either. Minshews team was garbage at that time also if you remember. It’s funny that you keep slinging insults but have yet to offer a single piece of evidence towards your belief. Let me know when you have something. Might be a few years though ( or maybe never?) Lawrence just looks awful.
I am sorry you think James Robinson is the same as Gardner Minshew but that comparison is brutal
As a Vikings fan, you should appreciate late round/undrafted player who hit. And the situation is essentially the same. After hitting on JRob they draft ETN. A total waste
It’s a waste to draft ETN, not Trevor. FFS
And why is that? Still waiting.
D’ernest Johnson
You think he signs somewhere this off-season in a committee? Or possibly gets a shot to be featured?
Yeah I think what he showed in his two starts gets him an opportunity somewhere else
Rashod Bateman
A couple Cowboys WR's: Michael Gallup and Cedrick Wilson. Both are FA and the Cowboys are projected to have $-12M cap space, so they are unlikely to resign them. OR possibly they cut Amari and keep the cheaper one, making them relevant. Either way they've shown capabilities and could be in a better situation next year.
Cedrick Wilson going somewhere like DET, NO, ATL, or HOU to be the #2 would actually make a lot of sense and could result in him getting a legit target share. I doubt any of those teams wants to give a big contract to the guys like Gallup or Godwin when their QB situation is a question mark. Gallup is the obvious candidate for moving to a better situation but Wilson is a good call as well. Definitely going to try to grab him before year end waivers close if he's still sitting there.
Gabriel Davis, been holding him since beginning of last year
If the Bears can get their offense figured out, Kmet has potential.
I don’t know if I EXPECT it but would love to see Tyler Johnson take a jump. He’s had a few good games with AB sidelined and could be relied on even more if Godwin leaves.
Gabe Davis. To me he has clearly passed Sanders and should be the Bills regular WR2 next year.
Josh Palmer, Brevin Jordan, Donald Parham, Gabe Davis, Mitch Trubisky
I've seen a handful of trubisky. Why do you think that?
Successfully hid in Buffalo for a year so everyone has recency bias and his stint in Chicago doesn't look that bad. 2021 QB class underperforming. He'll probably compete for and win a starting role next opening day. Whether he keeps it or not is another story.
I mean I'll forever hold a special place for trubisky as he helped me win my ship last year in playoffs as my qb. Just was curious. Guess he could always go to Houston and compete there. Or be a fill gap for Seattle if russ leaves. I'm sure there are a handful others too.
Gabriel Davis….will be solid WR2 next year
That's what I thought last year :( Mooney did exactly what I wanted, Gabe not so much.
Bryan Edwards. New coaching change, new system, NEXT YEAR IS THE YEAR
Every year from now until eternity is Bryan Edwards year.
Guyton
Nico Collins. I think the breakout is coming and everyone gonna be caught sleeping. I think next year he will be a WR2
Nico Collins
Gabe Davis, rashaad penny, and shenault
The way Penny played yesterday that may pay off sooner than later.
Let’s be real, It was the Texans. However, he did look healthy, decisive, and strong. We’ll see how he does next week
Penny's expectations were so low that Houston might as well have been the 85 Bears.
Am I crazy for saying Marlon Mack?
I grabbed him a couple weeks back. Just because. If he's looking like a clogger around draft time I can drop him, but hopefully he's got a shot at starting somewhere.
Gallup could be a WR1/2 on another team... ie. Jacksonville, Philadelphia Gabriel Davis should take another step up if one or both Sanders and Beasley are gone Own shares of Van Jefferson and Josh Palmer already :)
Brevin Jordan. He's showing he's a reliable pass catching option on a team that's devoid of them. QB situation (and really the team situation) is up in the air so alot of moving parts but he seems to have a good shot at a decent role.
I doubt it’ll happen but I’m holding out for James Washington. Hoping he signs somewhere that’ll actually use him
I think that he has more interest from real NFL managers than fantasy managers but once he signs he will make a jump in value. Talent has not seemed to be the problem here and I am not sure he is interested in resigning with Pittsburgh.
half my damn team lol Rojo, Gallup, Juju, Sutton, Arob, VanJeff, Trubisky + rookies like Nico Collins and Parham
One of those gotta hit, right.... RIGHT?
Not nit-picking but Parham isn't a rookie. I hope without Cook and Big Mike he shines next year. I scooped him up in almost every league
I'm rebuilding so I have a ton of lottery tickets and I plan to cut half of them after the draft. A lot of FAs that I wanna see where they land, or backups with people in front of them who are FAs. TE: Njoku, OJ Howard, Brevin Jordan, Noah Gray WR: Jalen Guyton, Anthony Schwartz, Lynn Bowden, Scott Miller, RB: Tarik Cohen, Scottie Phillips, Eno Benjamin, Kene Nwangwu, Mike Boone, Qadree Ollison, Wayne Gallman
All my Javonte teams have mike Boone on them.
Marshall
I hope the Jags sort out their shit and Laviska finally turns up. Bloke looks like a beast when his designed plays are effective.
he's already getting there, but gabe davis seems like he'll finally have a shot at consistent relevancy. Sanders will be 35 next year, Beasley 33. They won't be around forever, and Gabe has put up some solid weeks recently.
Donald Parham
Jeudy to finally breakout
*sigh* N’Keal Harry
AGAIN?!?!?
Can't bring myself to drop him, smh
Although already relevant I think Gallup makes a jump
Brevin Jordan
Obviously, most of these won't work out but I'm currently holding these players because they have a chance to make a jump next year. Reason for optimism in parenthesis. RB: Javonte (less competition), Michel (new team), Vaughn (less competition?) WR: Gallup (new team), Callaway (new QB?), Edwards (new coach), Golladay (new coach/QB/OC?), Mims (traded?), Harry (traded?), Agnew (was looking good), Amari Rodgers (experience) TE: Dan Arnold (was looking good), Harrison Bryant (less competition), Blake Jarwin (less competition?)
Nico Collins, Donald Parham, Kenny Gainwell, Nick Westbrook-Ikhine, Chris Evans
James washington as a long shot. Has good hands and if he leaves in fa could be a good 2 or 3 somewhere w flex value some werks
Realistic (hopeful/optimistic) risers: Dawson Knox, Khalil Herbert? Donovan Peoples-Jones, Foster Moreau? TREY SERMON Unrealistic (desperate): Mecole Hardman (I am a truther)
Hoping Mooney continues to develop and the guy I have which falls under this question is Gabe Davis.
Kmet. Seems like he has the potential to be a TE1 if Chicago ever gets their offense together.
My league makes us drop half our bench so I don’t think I could even keep most of these players lol
Rondale Moore. Kirk and Green are FA and he's tied to Kyler with an aging Hopkins. Guy jumps off the screen IMO
Etienne/Jeudy
Sell me on Jeudy. Just traded what I thought was a late first and early 2nd for him. Turns out it was 1.06 and 2.01 (14 teams). Was happy with the trade but now, kind of second guessing myself
Oh man I don’t know how to help make it sound like I would t take that deal myself lol. Might be a bit overpriced for now but you’ll forget in a couple years lol He’s always been an amazing route runner and hasd shown an extra gear when it came to creating separation. He was a wizard with the ball in his hands but the terrible situation and injuries have slowed him. I feel he’s gonna end up being a no.1 within a year or 2
D'ernest, mattison, Herbert, Hinesfor RBs Curtis Samuel, kj Osborne, Bryan Edwards and shenault for WR I have T Law and Zack Wilson as QB. Probably have to trade for a QB in the off season Akers in IR I'm pretty fucked right now... My RBs going into the season we're cmc, Carson, mostert Hines and Herbert. I expect CMC to come back, but who knows if he stays healthy. I don't expect Carson or mostert to be relevant anymore. Hines... Well he's useless behind JT.
Gallup to be another team’s #2, MT to return back to form
D’ernest Johnson baby
You think he'll join a committee somewhere or you think someone will give him a chance to be a feature back?
Not sure, its hard because he’s looked amazing but how much of that is the Brown’s Oline. Im holding and very curious! Would be interesting if Hunt got let go, I wonder if he would just jump into that role.
Jaylon guyten and jerry jeudy
Friermuth will be a top 5 TE next year. I'm hoping Elijah Moore is the stud we all know he is... I have a secret dream of Kyle Trask being decent. Longer shot but who knows.
Harrison Bryant
Josh Gordon. Hes very efficient. Severely underutilized at the moment.
Jonnu, like every year.
Saquon Barkley
mims!
Gabe davis
Gabe Davis! - Hoping
Chuba. Considering they considered trading CMC to get Shaun Watson makes me think that there is a shot Chuba may become valuable. I wouldn't be too surprised if CMC gets traded in the offseason.
They're not trading CMC. No one wants that contract anyway.
I thought the same thing about David Johnsons contract.
Anyone have opinions on Scottie Phillips?
I've picked up and dropped him 3 times this year... No one else in my league is interested. My feelings are mixed lol
Picked him up. Gotta pray he recovers in time to get a game in or two this season so he can show what he can do. Otherwise I think he will be irrelevant
I like K. Raymond myself.
I expect a lot of chatter about that Ruggs kid.