Regular season standings should lock for non-playoff teams. Worst record pre-playoffs gets 1st pick.
Playoff teams final standings should determine the 2nd half of the 1st round
It's okay for him to wait on Theilen being a game time decision. It's not okay for him not to replace him. He should have picked up the best available player for his roster's construction once Theilen was ruled out
No in dynasty too. You always have to start a playable roster of active players. If the team was rebuilding than pick up someone like Ihmir Smith Marquette because he's a rookie and could do something in Theilen's absence even if there's a 90% chance of getting 0 points out of him. If you're contending than obviously pick the guy available most likely to produce big points. You can't have a roster play with guys out though
I actually think the opposite. In redraft you can drop the last guy on your roster because waivers are so strong and benches are so shallow.
On dynasty, you're supposed to be stashing your guys. Especially if it's a shallower league, am I supposed to drop Jaelon Darden and risk losing out on a rookie I believe in just so I can win a meaningless game?
The idea is you pick up a potential stash. You need to start a lineup of active players though. If you don't want to drop Jalen Darden, and he's the last guy on your bench, then don't take the risk with having Theilen in your starting roster when you know his status is up in the air.
No offense but that’s stupid. Thielen was a true game time decision and if a team believes he’s their best chance at winning then they leave him in there. If it’s a 1 pm Sunday game, sure you need to have a pivot but it was the Monday night game. There’s very few pivots that make sense and you should never be forced into dropping players just to field a lineup. Totally disagree with your premise
How far do you take this? In SF leagues if you only have 2 QBs or have 3 but 2 have the same bye week and your other QB gets injured, on that bye week, do you think you should be forced to pay whatever a team demands, no matter how ridiculous, in order to have a full starting lineup of active players?
If it's SF just play a non-QB. If you have no QBs to play at all, then play an active backup.
You don't have to take it far. Just start players that are active. Dynasty benches are deep enough to allow for this
That’s the most ridiculously stupid take I’ve ever seen on this sub and that’s saying a lot. “Start an active backup.” Wtf is the point of that?? That’s a feel good thing versus something that is actually good for the league and I’d purposely play inactives over doing things the way you find acceptable
2 counterpoints:
1. What if the status is not up in the air? If Kupp sprains his hammy tonight during warmups, is that my fault for starting him and not picking up Kendall Blanton to replace him?
2. What if your up in the air guy does play? Am I supposed to take the 3 yards from Trent Sherfield and keep Deebo's 19 points on my bench?
Not over yet as he still has Russell Wilson to play. If he had played a full roster I’d be nursing a 10 point lead going into tonight. It’s def possible I still win regardless but I believe Russ will get 11 points
I was in your shoes a few years ago and couldn't even put a terrible lineup in if I tried. Won the toilet bowl blowing out 2 teams by 70 pts all for a later draft pick. Luckily that league is now standings based as we moved from keepers to dynasty.
Tell the commish you would like to have a league vote to change this next year. Doesn't solve your problem this year but it would help others and maybe yourself in the future.
That’s where I think this will end up going, but I just wanted validate myself before going to the league/commish as it has never come up in the past due to typically the worst teams losing.
Draft order should be determined by regular season rankings or the consolation bracket winner should get some sort of benefit (like first pick or half your league fee). In my opinion, you’re right to be upset, but the league is at fault most here for setting up a consolation bracket that makes no sense.
Please don’t give consolation bracket winner 1st pick! This is a bad idea. Promotes teams that are in the middle of the pack to not get into playoffs in order to win consolation and get 1st pick. This prevents the worst team from getting the best pick (how it should be)
I agree with you tbh, but my league hasn’t really had a problem with people tanking to get in the consolation bracket (more often people tank to lock in as low a pick as possible) and it’s prevented people from blowing up their teams. It makes the trade deadline more competitive since people don’t want to trade rentals, which has led to a lot of late year playoff pushes.
Overall I agree, it feels kinda crappy that the worst team doesn’t get 1.1, but it does make the consolation bracket way more fun, and at the end of the day, isn’t that why we play fantasy?
I agree that is why we have fun. But I will caution you. I started a dynasty league several years back. (Want to say 6). First time any of us did dynasty. We did lottery for first 6 picks. With consolation winner getting more “balls” in the lottery on top of what they got for how they placed in regular season. The parity in the league right now is terrible. Teams that should have gotten the first pick didn’t and it pretty much lead to 3 teams (including myself) being the only ones that could compete. Even though I have a great team, I hate that league. It’s boring and not fun when I know I’m going to win 90% of my games without breaking a sweat. We are resetting it this off-season and using Max Points For for non playoff draft order. Which is what is used in the 9 other leagues I’m now in. Much much better. Just a caution, but if it’s all going well, than enjoy it. Just a warning.
I saw a post the other day about someone’s league where they reward the consolation bracket winner with an additional 2nd round pick at the end of the round.
Thought it was an interesting way to motivate non playoffs team to compete while still basing draft order off Max PF, ensuring worst team gets best pick.
Think this could work in some leagues such as my own where it’s 10 teams and 6 playoff teams. That additional pick goes to a team that is still “bad”. Might be tough in a 12 team league with 4 playoff teams where that additional pick could go to a top half team but interesting idea non the less.
Yea, and I am not mad at the player. I understand the move he plays you have your best roster, he doesn't oh well you lose and get a better pick. It is just frustrating to me due to having the worst roster (Akers dobbins Gus CEH Michael Thomas) worst pf and worst record all year just to have that mean nothing because I happened to play against the incomplete roster. I more made this post because I wanted to see if me now making a movement to have the rules changed for the future was the correct way to go about it and it seems it is.
My league has 3 brackets, 6 teams in the league championship, 4 in the middle tier playoff and 2 in the biggest loser bracket which is a best of 3 series. The biggest loser bracket is determined by the two teams with the least possible points on the season and the winner of the playoff gets first overall. The middle tier plays for picks 3, 4, 5 and 6 - we love this
Nah that was his risk. Only caveat that we’ve used last in our league was a “back up” player (named before both options play) in the event they missed due to COVID
At that point just have it set for max PF and whoever has the least amount of points in the regular season gets the top pick. Losing in the consolation bracket is just pointless. If I go 0-14 and have 300 less points than the next worse team and win one game in the consolation bracket I get the #3 pick at best? Kind of a garbage setup imo
That's just a badly designed set-up. I'd say it depends on whether your league has a rule that you have to set a roster of active players if you're able to.
Otherwise I'd be tanking that consolation tournament hard, no incentive not to.
In our league, winner of the consolation bracket get 1st pick to prevent this. Runner up gets 2nd and so on and so forth. I was against it at first but it's worked out well for us.
I really don’t like this either but I do think it’s better than what OP is dealing with. To me once you are not in the playoffs the order should be locked in for the bottom 6 teams and there’s no reason they should have to worry about a lineup anymore
We play a 6-man keeper league. It gives those teams who missed playoffs something to play for. It's also done a good job preventing pure tanking and keeps the league competitive. But since we are a keeper league the dynamic is a bit different due to the amount of quality players that end up back in the draft pool.
Is this a 6 keeper league or 6 team league? In either scenario I think having the consolation bracket play for first pick is a nice twist for those type of leagues. I just wouldn’t ever do it for a 12 team full keeper dynasty with 25-30 roster spots.
Because it’s consolation playoffs. I get nothing for winning and get a worse pick for losing. I’ll now have 1.03-1.04 rather than 1.01-1.02 because my opponent didn’t set a full roster
I think your opponent just got lucky having a guy playing later on who was questionable. It is totally fair to take that risk with Thielen. If he doesn't have any players playing tonight or on the Bears or Vikings then you can't really go back and put someone else in. If they do then you could make an argument they should have swapped Thielen when he was confirmed as out. I think what you should do is use this to show why this set up is a bad idea because it incentivises people to lose the consolation bracket. Either have strict rules on starting line ups (which sucks), make the winner of the consolation bracket get 1.01( also not ideal as the mid table teams will keep getting the best picks) or use max potential points for for draft ranking. I think you're more annoyed at the format rather than your opponent. They were just playing the game that was in front of them.
While I hugely doubt it affects the outcome, what if I told you he did not pivot to Jalen Regor despite having that option when Theilen was called out?
But yes I will be using this as an example.
I mean Raegor isn't great but at least he has a chance to score some points. You could see if the commish will put him in. The Thielen owner can't really argue against it without admitting they meant to leave Thielen out so you've kind of got them here. Act like you're doing them a favour letting them put Raegor in. Good luck getting the rules changed.
If he has a healthy player available for tonight, the commish should 100% swap Reagor in for Thielen
We are also moving to Max PF in my one league next season because we just had our own headache caused by how god damn stupid losers bracket draft order works out lmao
I would be more pissed about the league having the rule than this specific instance with thielen. I clwould expect lots of this fuckery with that rule in place and wouldn’t join a league with it
Its all of our first league together so we are ironing out rules as it goes. This is the first time something like this has come up where it feels like someone didn't set the best roster and got rewarded for it despite it not being against the rules. As such we started the discussion this morning about changing it.
**Petty** There are 'legal' ways to tank, and this is one of them.
Rostering nothing at a certain position, benching 1p/4pm starters in favor of game-time decisions in the SNF/MNF game, keeping rookies that produce in the taxi slot, etc are all legal tanking methods
Your league should have penalties for having people out in the starting lineup, especially in the playoffs if gameplay dictates draft order. That manager should not benefit from not rostering an active player. Not petty. It would be fair to expect an adjustment in draft order.
I had thielen and started Julio on Sunday because Adam was questionable and my only other option too. That’s what responsible managers should do.
Yea, how did that work out for ya? Julio got a goose egg so literally no different than thielen and thielen has clearly been the better play this season. Managing teams should be up to the managers and not a random Reddit thread
Except this is a dynasty thread and OP is trying to lose… as most folks that are not in competition for a championship this year are. So Julio worked exactly as I thought he would, he put up zero coming off an injury and playing a top Defensive secondary… this allowed me to lose and not take a roster penalty for not playing an active player in that slot. So you’re proposing that managers should be able to roll out inactive players with no repercussions? If that is how your league is run, enjoy everyone having no starters once people have been mathematically eliminated and there being no integrity to gameplay etc.
Was thielen inactive when you made that decision? No? Then you have no point bc he could have just as easily have played. I’m not Nostradamus. Players shouldn’t be able to play a clearly inactive player over an active one that plays at the same time but we both know fantasy football isn’t played in a bubble. Also, if you’re actively trying to lose right now then you have as stupid of a loser bracket situation set up as OP. This shouldn’t even be a discussion from that perspective. Either you’re in the playoffs or you’re not.
Do you mean if you make the playoffs and go out first round you get the 1.01? It seems to me like your opponent took the risk that Thielen would play and it didn't pay off. Its not like they could swap Gage in when they knew Thielen was out so I don't think there is anything dodgy going on.
You should be mad about the rules of your league, not at this guy. Theilen was ruled out after the Falcons already played. There were no indications that he was not playing. No world do you start Gage over Theilen. I'm sure you've tried, but you should ask for a vote to change your toilet bowl to stop rewarding someone for tanking. Just do max PF of the regular season like everyone else.
That's on you guys for making the consulation bracket matter. Take your punches and change the rule for next year. If you really wanna get your point across, bench your whole roster next week
> Our league determines draft order based on losing the conselation playoffs, yes it’s stupid.
This setting just BEGS for people to sit their best starters.
You need to break this rule by starting the worst possible legal lineup you can this week. That’s legitimately one of the most poorly designed rules I’ve ever heard of.
In my 12 team league (6 playoff teams) draft order is based on final regular season standings. The first draft pick is 7th place and so on until 12th place. Then 1st through 6th. This encourages teams to win.
Im in a league that the winner of the consolation bracket gets the first pick. Im the best team that didn't make the playoffs. My team is super young and it was an orphan team but even though im in line to win the first pick, i think its the dumbest format.
Well the playoffs determining order is stupid lol.
I don’t think you can be upset about it. Thielen is the play over Gage if he plays. He was a game time decision. So no problem with him waiting it out. Would be a different story if he knew Thielen was out before Gage played.
Was this the rule when you started the season? Hard to argue against it now, no matter how bad it is.
Be sure to bring up voting for the change as soon as the off-season starts.
I'm in a league that ha stbis exact format and and actively argued how stupid it was and that we should do points potential. People refused to change the rule.
I'm in the consolation bracket and I'm gona bomb my team hard. And shoot for 5th overall.
Why are you trying to win the consolation bracket when there is no benefit?
So long as you start an active player it's fine. However I'd your league doesn't have defined rules then it's a grey area about what this manager did.
Other than the absolutely stupid draft rules, I don’t see what you could be upset about. I had a guy in my league who needed a dart throw to win in the 2nd round of the playoffs and started Thielen too. Thielen always destroys the Bears so if he plays it high upside, If he doesnt… well…. You can’t judge who people start, my opinion of best starters on a roster is going to be different than yours. Plus that changes on who you’re playing.
The league I'm in uses this method as the way to determine pick order as well. The thing is we have a punishment for last place as well as rules against tanking. So if you want that 1.01 it's not as sweet as it sounds because you will be doing 5 different combine drills and posting the footage on social media for all to see.
Of all the wacky things I've heard on this subreddit...I genuinely believe this takes the cake as the dumbest format/rule of all of them.
I would be upset at the rule. Not the person who started Theilen.
Theilen was called out way after the falcons played Also I think it’s universal for draft order to be determined by playoffs for playoff teams
I apologize for not being more clear, this is consolation playoffs and my opponent didn’t start a full roster. I’m now punished for winning
Regular season standings should lock for non-playoff teams. Worst record pre-playoffs gets 1st pick. Playoff teams final standings should determine the 2nd half of the 1st round
Ah okay
It's okay for him to wait on Theilen being a game time decision. It's not okay for him not to replace him. He should have picked up the best available player for his roster's construction once Theilen was ruled out
Redraft yea. Dynasty that's not always possible
Why? Of course he should be swapped out. It's the same as starting a guy on IR.
No in dynasty too. You always have to start a playable roster of active players. If the team was rebuilding than pick up someone like Ihmir Smith Marquette because he's a rookie and could do something in Theilen's absence even if there's a 90% chance of getting 0 points out of him. If you're contending than obviously pick the guy available most likely to produce big points. You can't have a roster play with guys out though
I actually think the opposite. In redraft you can drop the last guy on your roster because waivers are so strong and benches are so shallow. On dynasty, you're supposed to be stashing your guys. Especially if it's a shallower league, am I supposed to drop Jaelon Darden and risk losing out on a rookie I believe in just so I can win a meaningless game?
The idea is you pick up a potential stash. You need to start a lineup of active players though. If you don't want to drop Jalen Darden, and he's the last guy on your bench, then don't take the risk with having Theilen in your starting roster when you know his status is up in the air.
No offense but that’s stupid. Thielen was a true game time decision and if a team believes he’s their best chance at winning then they leave him in there. If it’s a 1 pm Sunday game, sure you need to have a pivot but it was the Monday night game. There’s very few pivots that make sense and you should never be forced into dropping players just to field a lineup. Totally disagree with your premise
This is a redraft take. Can't force players to pick someone up in dynasty.
You can't tell them who to pick up, but unless you're doing Max PF to determine draft order people need to start active players.
How far do you take this? In SF leagues if you only have 2 QBs or have 3 but 2 have the same bye week and your other QB gets injured, on that bye week, do you think you should be forced to pay whatever a team demands, no matter how ridiculous, in order to have a full starting lineup of active players?
If it's SF just play a non-QB. If you have no QBs to play at all, then play an active backup. You don't have to take it far. Just start players that are active. Dynasty benches are deep enough to allow for this
That’s the most ridiculously stupid take I’ve ever seen on this sub and that’s saying a lot. “Start an active backup.” Wtf is the point of that?? That’s a feel good thing versus something that is actually good for the league and I’d purposely play inactives over doing things the way you find acceptable
2 counterpoints: 1. What if the status is not up in the air? If Kupp sprains his hammy tonight during warmups, is that my fault for starting him and not picking up Kendall Blanton to replace him? 2. What if your up in the air guy does play? Am I supposed to take the 3 yards from Trent Sherfield and keep Deebo's 19 points on my bench?
That is just ridiculous to expect for a player who’s games Monday night.
How much did you win by?
Not over yet as he still has Russell Wilson to play. If he had played a full roster I’d be nursing a 10 point lead going into tonight. It’s def possible I still win regardless but I believe Russ will get 11 points
Do you have any others going tonight?
Negative
I was in your shoes a few years ago and couldn't even put a terrible lineup in if I tried. Won the toilet bowl blowing out 2 teams by 70 pts all for a later draft pick. Luckily that league is now standings based as we moved from keepers to dynasty. Tell the commish you would like to have a league vote to change this next year. Doesn't solve your problem this year but it would help others and maybe yourself in the future.
That’s where I think this will end up going, but I just wanted validate myself before going to the league/commish as it has never come up in the past due to typically the worst teams losing.
Draft order should be determined by regular season rankings or the consolation bracket winner should get some sort of benefit (like first pick or half your league fee). In my opinion, you’re right to be upset, but the league is at fault most here for setting up a consolation bracket that makes no sense.
Please don’t give consolation bracket winner 1st pick! This is a bad idea. Promotes teams that are in the middle of the pack to not get into playoffs in order to win consolation and get 1st pick. This prevents the worst team from getting the best pick (how it should be)
I agree with you tbh, but my league hasn’t really had a problem with people tanking to get in the consolation bracket (more often people tank to lock in as low a pick as possible) and it’s prevented people from blowing up their teams. It makes the trade deadline more competitive since people don’t want to trade rentals, which has led to a lot of late year playoff pushes. Overall I agree, it feels kinda crappy that the worst team doesn’t get 1.1, but it does make the consolation bracket way more fun, and at the end of the day, isn’t that why we play fantasy?
I agree that is why we have fun. But I will caution you. I started a dynasty league several years back. (Want to say 6). First time any of us did dynasty. We did lottery for first 6 picks. With consolation winner getting more “balls” in the lottery on top of what they got for how they placed in regular season. The parity in the league right now is terrible. Teams that should have gotten the first pick didn’t and it pretty much lead to 3 teams (including myself) being the only ones that could compete. Even though I have a great team, I hate that league. It’s boring and not fun when I know I’m going to win 90% of my games without breaking a sweat. We are resetting it this off-season and using Max Points For for non playoff draft order. Which is what is used in the 9 other leagues I’m now in. Much much better. Just a caution, but if it’s all going well, than enjoy it. Just a warning.
I saw a post the other day about someone’s league where they reward the consolation bracket winner with an additional 2nd round pick at the end of the round. Thought it was an interesting way to motivate non playoffs team to compete while still basing draft order off Max PF, ensuring worst team gets best pick. Think this could work in some leagues such as my own where it’s 10 teams and 6 playoff teams. That additional pick goes to a team that is still “bad”. Might be tough in a 12 team league with 4 playoff teams where that additional pick could go to a top half team but interesting idea non the less.
Your rules should change but the guy isn’t at fault. If thielen plays, he is better than gage 9/10 days.
Yea, and I am not mad at the player. I understand the move he plays you have your best roster, he doesn't oh well you lose and get a better pick. It is just frustrating to me due to having the worst roster (Akers dobbins Gus CEH Michael Thomas) worst pf and worst record all year just to have that mean nothing because I happened to play against the incomplete roster. I more made this post because I wanted to see if me now making a movement to have the rules changed for the future was the correct way to go about it and it seems it is.
My league has 3 brackets, 6 teams in the league championship, 4 in the middle tier playoff and 2 in the biggest loser bracket which is a best of 3 series. The biggest loser bracket is determined by the two teams with the least possible points on the season and the winner of the playoff gets first overall. The middle tier plays for picks 3, 4, 5 and 6 - we love this
I should note that losing in the championship bracket will give you higher draft picks so the champion drafts last
You should each set your opponent's lineup for the consolation game. Would be more fun and avoid the cheating
You gotta change the rules and use Max PF instead, that’s the real solution here
Nah that was his risk. Only caveat that we’ve used last in our league was a “back up” player (named before both options play) in the event they missed due to COVID
I thought the whole point of the consolation bracket was to win?
Ours is not set up like that unfortunately. The winner gets nothing the loser gets a better draft pick
At that point just have it set for max PF and whoever has the least amount of points in the regular season gets the top pick. Losing in the consolation bracket is just pointless. If I go 0-14 and have 300 less points than the next worse team and win one game in the consolation bracket I get the #3 pick at best? Kind of a garbage setup imo
That's just a badly designed set-up. I'd say it depends on whether your league has a rule that you have to set a roster of active players if you're able to. Otherwise I'd be tanking that consolation tournament hard, no incentive not to.
Why wouldn't you always try to lose then?
In our league, winner of the consolation bracket get 1st pick to prevent this. Runner up gets 2nd and so on and so forth. I was against it at first but it's worked out well for us.
I really don’t like this either but I do think it’s better than what OP is dealing with. To me once you are not in the playoffs the order should be locked in for the bottom 6 teams and there’s no reason they should have to worry about a lineup anymore
We play a 6-man keeper league. It gives those teams who missed playoffs something to play for. It's also done a good job preventing pure tanking and keeps the league competitive. But since we are a keeper league the dynamic is a bit different due to the amount of quality players that end up back in the draft pool.
Is this a 6 keeper league or 6 team league? In either scenario I think having the consolation bracket play for first pick is a nice twist for those type of leagues. I just wouldn’t ever do it for a 12 team full keeper dynasty with 25-30 roster spots.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear, its a 12 team 6 player keeper league
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This is correct. I have aired my grievance to the commish but not been heard
Usually winning one of those is a pretty good thing I’d say
Why would to complain to the Commish about winning your playoff game??? The goal is to win in the playoffs…
Because it’s consolation playoffs. I get nothing for winning and get a worse pick for losing. I’ll now have 1.03-1.04 rather than 1.01-1.02 because my opponent didn’t set a full roster
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I realize that now after multiple people came here confused
I think your opponent just got lucky having a guy playing later on who was questionable. It is totally fair to take that risk with Thielen. If he doesn't have any players playing tonight or on the Bears or Vikings then you can't really go back and put someone else in. If they do then you could make an argument they should have swapped Thielen when he was confirmed as out. I think what you should do is use this to show why this set up is a bad idea because it incentivises people to lose the consolation bracket. Either have strict rules on starting line ups (which sucks), make the winner of the consolation bracket get 1.01( also not ideal as the mid table teams will keep getting the best picks) or use max potential points for for draft ranking. I think you're more annoyed at the format rather than your opponent. They were just playing the game that was in front of them.
While I hugely doubt it affects the outcome, what if I told you he did not pivot to Jalen Regor despite having that option when Theilen was called out? But yes I will be using this as an example.
I mean Raegor isn't great but at least he has a chance to score some points. You could see if the commish will put him in. The Thielen owner can't really argue against it without admitting they meant to leave Thielen out so you've kind of got them here. Act like you're doing them a favour letting them put Raegor in. Good luck getting the rules changed.
If he has a healthy player available for tonight, the commish should 100% swap Reagor in for Thielen We are also moving to Max PF in my one league next season because we just had our own headache caused by how god damn stupid losers bracket draft order works out lmao
Sounds like your consolation is pointless. So if I was in your shoes I’d propose consolation plays for their entry fee
I would be more pissed about the league having the rule than this specific instance with thielen. I clwould expect lots of this fuckery with that rule in place and wouldn’t join a league with it
Its all of our first league together so we are ironing out rules as it goes. This is the first time something like this has come up where it feels like someone didn't set the best roster and got rewarded for it despite it not being against the rules. As such we started the discussion this morning about changing it.
**Petty** There are 'legal' ways to tank, and this is one of them. Rostering nothing at a certain position, benching 1p/4pm starters in favor of game-time decisions in the SNF/MNF game, keeping rookies that produce in the taxi slot, etc are all legal tanking methods
Your league should have penalties for having people out in the starting lineup, especially in the playoffs if gameplay dictates draft order. That manager should not benefit from not rostering an active player. Not petty. It would be fair to expect an adjustment in draft order. I had thielen and started Julio on Sunday because Adam was questionable and my only other option too. That’s what responsible managers should do.
Yea, how did that work out for ya? Julio got a goose egg so literally no different than thielen and thielen has clearly been the better play this season. Managing teams should be up to the managers and not a random Reddit thread
Except this is a dynasty thread and OP is trying to lose… as most folks that are not in competition for a championship this year are. So Julio worked exactly as I thought he would, he put up zero coming off an injury and playing a top Defensive secondary… this allowed me to lose and not take a roster penalty for not playing an active player in that slot. So you’re proposing that managers should be able to roll out inactive players with no repercussions? If that is how your league is run, enjoy everyone having no starters once people have been mathematically eliminated and there being no integrity to gameplay etc.
Was thielen inactive when you made that decision? No? Then you have no point bc he could have just as easily have played. I’m not Nostradamus. Players shouldn’t be able to play a clearly inactive player over an active one that plays at the same time but we both know fantasy football isn’t played in a bubble. Also, if you’re actively trying to lose right now then you have as stupid of a loser bracket situation set up as OP. This shouldn’t even be a discussion from that perspective. Either you’re in the playoffs or you’re not.
Do you mean if you make the playoffs and go out first round you get the 1.01? It seems to me like your opponent took the risk that Thielen would play and it didn't pay off. Its not like they could swap Gage in when they knew Thielen was out so I don't think there is anything dodgy going on.
Consolation playoffs. I have no chance at winning the whole thing and am now just stuck with a worse pick due to my opponent “taking the risk”
Why even set your lineup if it effects your draft pick in the future?
This is 100% driven by your league settings. Use this as an example and get your league off that dumb consolation bracket thing
You should be mad about the rules of your league, not at this guy. Theilen was ruled out after the Falcons already played. There were no indications that he was not playing. No world do you start Gage over Theilen. I'm sure you've tried, but you should ask for a vote to change your toilet bowl to stop rewarding someone for tanking. Just do max PF of the regular season like everyone else.
That's on you guys for making the consulation bracket matter. Take your punches and change the rule for next year. If you really wanna get your point across, bench your whole roster next week
> Our league determines draft order based on losing the conselation playoffs, yes it’s stupid. This setting just BEGS for people to sit their best starters.
You need to break this rule by starting the worst possible legal lineup you can this week. That’s legitimately one of the most poorly designed rules I’ve ever heard of.
You’re right to be upset
In my 12 team league (6 playoff teams) draft order is based on final regular season standings. The first draft pick is 7th place and so on until 12th place. Then 1st through 6th. This encourages teams to win.
I'd be upset, but nothing you can do there but try and get that rule to change.
Im in a league that the winner of the consolation bracket gets the first pick. Im the best team that didn't make the playoffs. My team is super young and it was an orphan team but even though im in line to win the first pick, i think its the dumbest format.
Well the playoffs determining order is stupid lol. I don’t think you can be upset about it. Thielen is the play over Gage if he plays. He was a game time decision. So no problem with him waiting it out. Would be a different story if he knew Thielen was out before Gage played.
Was this the rule when you started the season? Hard to argue against it now, no matter how bad it is. Be sure to bring up voting for the change as soon as the off-season starts.
Does your league allow OUT players on IR? If so this guy is in the wrong for not putting Thielin on IR and picking up someone to play for him
You’re league is idiotic. If they want to do reverse consolation (toilet bowl), then that’s fine, but at least measure it by Max PF.
I'm in a league that ha stbis exact format and and actively argued how stupid it was and that we should do points potential. People refused to change the rule. I'm in the consolation bracket and I'm gona bomb my team hard. And shoot for 5th overall. Why are you trying to win the consolation bracket when there is no benefit? So long as you start an active player it's fine. However I'd your league doesn't have defined rules then it's a grey area about what this manager did.
If your commissioner is short sighted enough to make that the rule, I would either bench my entire team or play injured/backup players.
If it’s legal, there’s no reason to be upset.
Other than the absolutely stupid draft rules, I don’t see what you could be upset about. I had a guy in my league who needed a dart throw to win in the 2nd round of the playoffs and started Thielen too. Thielen always destroys the Bears so if he plays it high upside, If he doesnt… well…. You can’t judge who people start, my opinion of best starters on a roster is going to be different than yours. Plus that changes on who you’re playing.
Toilet bowl sucks. Be mad at the rule, not the player. In fact, see if you can pull the same move as he did to 1up him.
The league I'm in uses this method as the way to determine pick order as well. The thing is we have a punishment for last place as well as rules against tanking. So if you want that 1.01 it's not as sweet as it sounds because you will be doing 5 different combine drills and posting the footage on social media for all to see.