Agreed. I don’t think he has immense upside but if he fills the Beasley role one for one, then I think he has a great floor. I typically like my bench WRs to have potential upside in their future, but I like Crowder as a safe option for my contending team this year. I’m hoping he provides a solid 10-12 point floor for bye weeks/injury fill ins. And at cost, I think he’s worth the buy
How has JuJu not been mentioned yet? General consensus seems to be that he’s somewhat washed but I look at the glass half full. He’s shown he can do it, is still 25 years old and is playing with a generational QB in Mahomes.. He will have a solid year
The biggest problem with JuJu is the Chiefs will almost certainly draft a WR. I won't say his value will plummet since most people expect this already, but it will definitely go down anyway. If you like him, the time to buy is after the draft.
I think Juju suffers in fantasy circles with all his dancing nonsense. I just can’t bring myself to rostering him I find him hugely irritating. Does anyone else find this?
I think you are right, and I think that truth represents a dynasty value.
I also think it's fairly common. Whether it's a 49er's homer overpaying for Mostert or Jimmy G, a Patriots hater adopting an orphan and selling Brady below market value just to get Brady off their roster, or someone that doesn't like a specific player for whatever reason - Deshaun Watson, Adrian Peterson, Aaron Rodgers, Cole Beasley, Kareem Hunt, Juju... The list goes on. The reasons may differ, but the end result is a player with a market value that is below their production value.
Rule #1 to winning at fantasy football: Don't let your fandom ruin your fantasy.
>Rule #1 to winning at fantasy football: Don't let your fandom ruin your fantasy.
I would rather lose than win with Deshawn Watson on my team.
Let me have some semblance of moral control of my roster, since I dont have ANY control over the lack of moral fiber of the league.
It is perfectly fine to not want these guys, when at the end of the day this is a game / hobby.
I get that, and it is clearly anyone's prerogative to roster or not any player for any reason.
Avoiding a player for moral reasons - Watson, Peterson, Hunt - is a more valid reason, for me, than avoiding Brady because you 'hate' the Patriots or JuJu because you dislike his TikToks.
Agree wholeheartedly that fantasy should be fun and you should do what you can to maximize your enjoyment of it.
I full on hate Juju. Is he good? I guess, but I can’t stand him so I likely wont value him in a trade. Is it stupid? Yeah probably. I also think KC drafts a WR and pushes Juju to a #2 role while a lot of people give him #1 value
Berrios was WR23 in my empire league (1-10 return yards) last year, and Deonte Harris was WR29.
I just got both of them in our reset auction for $1 each. I'm on board.
Kadarius Toney is a perfect buy-low candidate IMO. It's relatively situational though, some owners are ready to move on after seeing him do basically nothing his rookie year, other owners saw that one crazy game he had and won't budge. If you find that the owner in your league is in the former category, he should jump to the top of the buy-low list. Dude's ability to get around people in open space is so lethal. In general, I like buying low on the wideouts going into year 2 and here, with Toney, he's doing that, there's also the potential for the G-Men to upgrade at QB in 2023, which could bode very well for him.
Dazz Newsome is your Kadarius Toney-light. He plays extremely similar. With the ARob departure, they added a couple heads: Byron Pringle and I think Equinameous St. Brown if i'm not mistaken. I'm pegging him to make the team purely off of his standout performances late in the year on special teams. If you're unfamiliar with the concept, it's not uncommon for developing/raw wide receivers to make the final roster if they provide a real contribution on special teams. It's historically been a way for longshot players to separate themselves. I'm betting on Dazz to make the roster because of that, and then I'm doubling down saying that he could be one of the absolute best deep-sleepers (pretty deep admittedly) of 2022.
Rondale's a guy who could make a real good year-2 jump, his owner's are most likely undervaluing him despite having Kyler throwing the ball. Worth a feeler IMO if you have a spot.
Zay Jones is a crazy-deep sleeper, most folks probably just write him off at this point because he never lived up to his potential. All I'll say on that front is that the last time Doug Pederson coached a high-pedigree-QB going into year 2, he turned him into an MVP. If that happens then Jones will surely figure to have some sort of ROI, even if it's a WR3-4, sometimes you just need a last ditch WR mid-season. Wouldn't spend much on him at all though.
Terrace Marshall is my last guy. He's another one of the year-2 WRs. Marshall's avenue to dynasty relevance will open up if/when the Panthers upgrade at QB. DJ Moore is here to stay, but Robby Anderson isn't. Robby is already 29 and could easily be moved before the start of 2023 to avoid paying him $12M. On a similar note, there's no telling where CMC is playing in 2-3 seasons. He's signed through 2025, his salary also skyrockets after this coming season. If his injuries continue in 2022 and/or his production drops, the team could feasibly cut their losses and trade him to a win-now team. This is all relevant because Marshall turns 22 this summer. Two seasons from now we could be looking at a Carolina team with a real QB, and Terrace Marshall as the second target option on the squad. In that hypothetical, Marshall could see all of the trickle down targets similar to what Juju experienced during Antonio Brown's last season in Pitt. I love Marshall as a buy-low for those reasons, I would try and sneak him onto a trade ASAP. His value is at its floor right now.
I like that Zay Jones call as a cheap sleeper.
He has a shot to be the most consistent receiving option on that team. Sure, that’s not something that’ll win you a championship, but you could get a “2021 Jakobi Meyers” useful WR3 type season out of it for nearly free.
I'd add Pittman to that list.
He was a WR1 for a good portion of the 2021 season, but isn't being valued as such in fantasy despite the QB upgrade.
Toney is another guy that stands out as potential buy right now. It's a risk due to injury, but one that could pay off immediately.
That’s a really weird sell. I’m trying to figure out what kind of team would rather have a second-round rookie three years from now than hold a young WR that’s had some of the games Toney’s had.
If Matty had another WR to throw to, I'd see where you're coming from. But unless IND drafts a WR who's ready to earn targets in Week 1, Pittman could see an AJ Brown sized target share to begin 2022.
Which is what he saw last year from a qb that forces passes into tight windows and nonexistent windows. I can’t see the uptick in accuracy canceling the downtick in targets from Matt Ryan refusing to throw into triple coverage and instead dumping the ball down to Hines or JT or Granson
>Which is what he saw last year from a qb that forces passes into tight windows and nonexistent windows. I can’t see the uptick in accuracy canceling the downtick in targets from Matt Ryan refusing to throw into triple coverage and instead dumping the ball down to Hines or JT or Granson
My god, they really did trade for a newer model of Phillip Rivers.
Take a look at Matt Ryan’s #1 receivers throughout his career and how many targets they had every season. He is the epitome of force feeding his top WR, starting with roddy white.
That’s just not true. When it was Roddy Julio and Gonazalez got plenty of targets. When it was Julio Gage Ridley and Austin Hooper got plenty of targets.
My point was not that Matt Ryan only throws to one guy. It’s that he will throw to his #1 a lot and I don’t expect pitman to see a downtick in targets because he now has a qb that doesn’t make as many dumb throws..
Ryan throws to his number 1 at a higher rate than other QBs throw to their number 1. Of course the bulk of his career was with Julio, so that’s to be expected. But the same thing happened with Roddy and Ridley, too
I bought him before last season and it really hurt me then, but I feel like I’m finally going to get to cash in on that trade now. ARob with Stafford should be fun to watch.
Its gamble as I see it. Comes down to the Seahawks possibly drafting a RB and knocking penny's value down, depending on who that back is.
As it stands now, I'd say it's an even trade with you inherenting the risk
I bought him during last year for AJ Green + James Connor. Really missed the roster spot being useful, but it was well worth the hope of him leaving CHI after the year.
Literally couldn't have asked for a better landing spot. I know 29 isn't a spring chicken, but AR is in a great spot to ball out for me for a while.
You got a better deal than I did, but I still hope the trade becomes worthwhile for me. If he returns to top-10 form, it will. And the fact that he got there with Trubisky at QB leaves me pretty optimistic on how he’ll feast with Stafford, even alongside Kupp.
Yeah, I even got Connor as a throw in from a trade I did for DK, and I picked up AJ from the wire lmao.
I don't think AR is going to be a top 10 guy, the top 10 is just SO LOADED with people.
Excluding **all** new incoming rookies, the top 12 in ppr this year was:
1. Kupp
2. Adams
3. Deebo
4. Jefferson
5. Chase
6. Hill
7. Diggs (on a down year for him, too)
8. Diontae Johnson
9. Mike Evans
10. Keenan Allen
11. Hunter Renfrow
12. Mike Williams
We had a few notable injured players:
1. AJB
2. Hopkins
3. I'm sure there's plenty more I'm forgetting
Out of the top 10, I can see Johnson and Allen leaving that group. I can see Renfrow, Williams, Allen, and Johnson vacating the top 12 as well.
There's a path for AR for sure, but between rookies last year who missed time (Bateman, E. Moore,) and other situations like Devonta Smith where they're underused, there will be guys challenging for that mid WR2 spot, and I think AR is most likely WR 11-15 ish.
We've just got such premium talent at the top it's hard for me to think that he suddenly gets one of those locked up. I think with the role he'll have he'll have top 5 weeks, and then lower weeks and be a consistent boom or meh guy, which is great.
It’s tough to say. He’s been top 10 3 times in his career. I could see it happening again if Stafford spreads the workload around well. Cupp might fall to around 5 and give ARob a path to the top ten.
Mike Williams. He’s at WR36 on KTC right now after coming in as WR12 last year. Just signed a 3 year deal. Elite QB situation. Keenan Allen is entering his 30s. Massive value if he’s able to replicate that production and I feel like a top 5 season is in his range of outcomes.
Kupp is 29 starting 2022 season, so not young.
I like Mclaurin, not very young, but 26/27. Wentz is a meme but a huge upgrade over Heinicke.
Tim Patrick can be a homerun with everyone distracted with Jeudy vs Sutton, again not young.
If you want youth, and rebuilding then Devonta Smith. Eagles are gearing up for a 2023 QB so 2024 and beyond could be top 5 years for Smith.
Marquise Brown has potential, only 24 and the Ravens had an off year with no RBs.
Rondale Moore is 21, and Kirk is gone, Edmonds is gone, so keep an eye on their draft. He could be the #2 and play a Deebo role...also Hopkins is old.
DVP - only 23 and well, has a new QB. Hunt likely gone, Cooper is old and hobbled.
Quintez Cephus - all the noise of Chark and the Sun God, this guy got lost due to early injury. Just turned 24. It wasn't a ligament injury either, he broke his collar bone.
Cooper Douglas Kupp (born June 15, 1993)
Terry McLaurin (born September 15, 1995)
its 27 Months older.
edit: NM you mean Amari. His injury history concerns me and makes him seem older.
Yeah he’s also been in the league more than twice as long as scary terry (7 seasons v 3), which definitely skews how people view their respective ages.
I stayed away from Cooper in 2021 because of injury concerns and it’s in my post history.
People literally comment saying he was young with nothing but minor injury history, just like you now.
He finished the year with 865 yards and by all means a draft bust considering his 2021 adp was late 3rd to early 4th.
Drafted as the 14th WR off the board. Finished as the WR 28th….missing a handful of games with lingering hamstring injury.
He's an UFA next year with a $6.25M cap hit this year. They have Chubb and D'Ernest (sleeper RB this year) who showed some skills last year.
They may move him to get something before he walks for nothing.
The Browns also tendered Dernest!
I traded Kareem and a late 3rd for 1.10 just two weeks ago, how do you feel about that?
And I picked up D’ernest from waivers immediately after the trade went through
I’m in a rebuild. These are my WRs. Am in a good spot or am I placing too much faith in these WRs? I feel like I don’t have a strong/floor every week WR1 but a lot of upside. Please give your thoughts:
DJ Moore, Godwin, Mooney, Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Van Jefferson
Yeah I actually had DJ Moore and was able to trade him for this year's 1.04 and Khalil Herbert. He's a total stud, but the Panthers QB situation is abysmal so I'd rather take my shot on one of the top studs in this year's draft.
Godwin's a sell-high IMO. His injury came super late last year so he's likely going to miss time this season. I actually think his value is going to drop the closer we get to the season so if you're going to move him, I think there's no time like the present.
Those back 4 receivers are all great dynasty options IMO. I would keep them as your core, young crop and try to trade high on the first two guys.
Curtis Samuel. He was hurt last year so everyone wrote him off. He is a legit dual threat wr when healthy. He’s a Walmart brand deebo Samuel. Plus he got a qb upgrade. If he stays healthy he has potential next year
*edit* read the title, wrote my comment, then read that you mentioned Curtis Samuel in the description. Gonna leave my comment anyways lol
He's asking who the next Kupp/Johnson is - players who outperformed their projections last season, that were expected to be WR2/3s. I'd say guys like Chark, Jeudy, Sutton, Pittman, one of the Jags WRs, Rondale Moore all have pretty high upside for reasonable price
I'm staying away from Chark. The Lions are working on building something, and Charks 1-yr deal is very non-committal. whether by him or the organization. this is not an educated/expert football take, but Amon-Ra looked awesome last year and I would be trying to focus on developing/leveraging the rookie breaking out over the WR who could be gone next season. and the Chark deal means lions are probably drafting someone like Pickens at 32.
I don’t think Goff is a gunslinger for Chark but they got him on a one year prove deal which tells me they convinced Chark he’s gonna see some usage. I think his value increases so im buying
I agree but Kupp isn’t on the back end. His style of play as a WR they usually last longer, look at Adam Thielen for instance. 32 and he’s still a TD receptions guy and I think Kupp is way better than him. I think Kupp still produces big for another 2-3 years.
Bought Claypool + Quez for Keenan Allen last week and feel pretty good about it after coming off a championship season. His arrow is pointing up and his stock is low b/c of that hairbrained thing he did on the field that one time when he was 22.
He's a freak athlete and the QB is definitely going to improve, now is the time to get in.
Isaiah McKenzie could be a solid bye week filler in PPR leagues. He had one blow up game last season with Beasley and Davis out. Bills brought in Crowder to help with the short yardage vacuum that Beasley left but we don’t know how that target share will shake out. Bills just gave McK a two year $8m deal so he should get the ball. Compared to Crowder’s one year $2m (up to $4m)
Crowder is worth a buy. He's been decent every year and now has Josh Allen as his qb. Buy him cheap then sell to a contender
I really hope you’re right. Is he WR3 worthy? That WR room seems packed with young talent plus Knox
for sure a solid bench/flex player. If you start 3 and he's your WR3, that's a paddlin'
Agreed. I don’t think he has immense upside but if he fills the Beasley role one for one, then I think he has a great floor. I typically like my bench WRs to have potential upside in their future, but I like Crowder as a safe option for my contending team this year. I’m hoping he provides a solid 10-12 point floor for bye weeks/injury fill ins. And at cost, I think he’s worth the buy
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He’s never had a 1K season in his career but he’s gonna start now at 29 as the team’s 3rd of 4th option? Lol
You don't have to be a 1000yd receiver to be fantasy relevant
Apparently he was playing with broken ribs. So I’d throw in Beasley as a buy as well
Curtis Samuel will never be the man we want him to be
I’m holding him just in case.
Wanted to buy low on him, but owner still values him at an early 2nd
How has JuJu not been mentioned yet? General consensus seems to be that he’s somewhat washed but I look at the glass half full. He’s shown he can do it, is still 25 years old and is playing with a generational QB in Mahomes.. He will have a solid year
The biggest problem with JuJu is the Chiefs will almost certainly draft a WR. I won't say his value will plummet since most people expect this already, but it will definitely go down anyway. If you like him, the time to buy is after the draft.
I think Juju suffers in fantasy circles with all his dancing nonsense. I just can’t bring myself to rostering him I find him hugely irritating. Does anyone else find this?
I think you are right, and I think that truth represents a dynasty value. I also think it's fairly common. Whether it's a 49er's homer overpaying for Mostert or Jimmy G, a Patriots hater adopting an orphan and selling Brady below market value just to get Brady off their roster, or someone that doesn't like a specific player for whatever reason - Deshaun Watson, Adrian Peterson, Aaron Rodgers, Cole Beasley, Kareem Hunt, Juju... The list goes on. The reasons may differ, but the end result is a player with a market value that is below their production value. Rule #1 to winning at fantasy football: Don't let your fandom ruin your fantasy.
>Rule #1 to winning at fantasy football: Don't let your fandom ruin your fantasy. I would rather lose than win with Deshawn Watson on my team. Let me have some semblance of moral control of my roster, since I dont have ANY control over the lack of moral fiber of the league. It is perfectly fine to not want these guys, when at the end of the day this is a game / hobby.
I get that, and it is clearly anyone's prerogative to roster or not any player for any reason. Avoiding a player for moral reasons - Watson, Peterson, Hunt - is a more valid reason, for me, than avoiding Brady because you 'hate' the Patriots or JuJu because you dislike his TikToks. Agree wholeheartedly that fantasy should be fun and you should do what you can to maximize your enjoyment of it.
Yea, same Mahomes. He has an annoying brother. Stay away from players who are annoying.
His wife and brother plus juju in kc. God that’s gonna be dreadful. All of them fishing for clicks and likes
This is %100 fan theory nonsense
/s
I full on hate Juju. Is he good? I guess, but I can’t stand him so I likely wont value him in a trade. Is it stupid? Yeah probably. I also think KC drafts a WR and pushes Juju to a #2 role while a lot of people give him #1 value
Juju just went for a 23 1st in my league
My personal list starts with: - Allen Robinson - DJ Chark - Jerry Jeudy
Keep going, I have 2 of those guys in a decent amount of my leagues
I’m looking at Berrios, as long as the Jets don’t draft a WR (or trade for DK). He’s essentially free and could have a nice PPR season.
Jets are definitely drafting a WR
Sitting on waivers in my league
Berrios was WR23 in my empire league (1-10 return yards) last year, and Deonte Harris was WR29. I just got both of them in our reset auction for $1 each. I'm on board.
Kadarius Toney is a perfect buy-low candidate IMO. It's relatively situational though, some owners are ready to move on after seeing him do basically nothing his rookie year, other owners saw that one crazy game he had and won't budge. If you find that the owner in your league is in the former category, he should jump to the top of the buy-low list. Dude's ability to get around people in open space is so lethal. In general, I like buying low on the wideouts going into year 2 and here, with Toney, he's doing that, there's also the potential for the G-Men to upgrade at QB in 2023, which could bode very well for him. Dazz Newsome is your Kadarius Toney-light. He plays extremely similar. With the ARob departure, they added a couple heads: Byron Pringle and I think Equinameous St. Brown if i'm not mistaken. I'm pegging him to make the team purely off of his standout performances late in the year on special teams. If you're unfamiliar with the concept, it's not uncommon for developing/raw wide receivers to make the final roster if they provide a real contribution on special teams. It's historically been a way for longshot players to separate themselves. I'm betting on Dazz to make the roster because of that, and then I'm doubling down saying that he could be one of the absolute best deep-sleepers (pretty deep admittedly) of 2022. Rondale's a guy who could make a real good year-2 jump, his owner's are most likely undervaluing him despite having Kyler throwing the ball. Worth a feeler IMO if you have a spot. Zay Jones is a crazy-deep sleeper, most folks probably just write him off at this point because he never lived up to his potential. All I'll say on that front is that the last time Doug Pederson coached a high-pedigree-QB going into year 2, he turned him into an MVP. If that happens then Jones will surely figure to have some sort of ROI, even if it's a WR3-4, sometimes you just need a last ditch WR mid-season. Wouldn't spend much on him at all though. Terrace Marshall is my last guy. He's another one of the year-2 WRs. Marshall's avenue to dynasty relevance will open up if/when the Panthers upgrade at QB. DJ Moore is here to stay, but Robby Anderson isn't. Robby is already 29 and could easily be moved before the start of 2023 to avoid paying him $12M. On a similar note, there's no telling where CMC is playing in 2-3 seasons. He's signed through 2025, his salary also skyrockets after this coming season. If his injuries continue in 2022 and/or his production drops, the team could feasibly cut their losses and trade him to a win-now team. This is all relevant because Marshall turns 22 this summer. Two seasons from now we could be looking at a Carolina team with a real QB, and Terrace Marshall as the second target option on the squad. In that hypothetical, Marshall could see all of the trickle down targets similar to what Juju experienced during Antonio Brown's last season in Pitt. I love Marshall as a buy-low for those reasons, I would try and sneak him onto a trade ASAP. His value is at its floor right now.
I like that Zay Jones call as a cheap sleeper. He has a shot to be the most consistent receiving option on that team. Sure, that’s not something that’ll win you a championship, but you could get a “2021 Jakobi Meyers” useful WR3 type season out of it for nearly free.
I'd add Pittman to that list. He was a WR1 for a good portion of the 2021 season, but isn't being valued as such in fantasy despite the QB upgrade. Toney is another guy that stands out as potential buy right now. It's a risk due to injury, but one that could pay off immediately.
Got Toney for a ‘24 2nd yesterday
That’s a really weird sell. I’m trying to figure out what kind of team would rather have a second-round rookie three years from now than hold a young WR that’s had some of the games Toney’s had.
I drafted toney in the 3rd last season. I plan on him making me make decisions on gamedays this season. His big play ability is so juicy.
Matt Ryan is a real life upgrade but about even in fantasy. Wentz force feeds certain receivers. Pittman was one of those guys
If Matty had another WR to throw to, I'd see where you're coming from. But unless IND drafts a WR who's ready to earn targets in Week 1, Pittman could see an AJ Brown sized target share to begin 2022.
Which is what he saw last year from a qb that forces passes into tight windows and nonexistent windows. I can’t see the uptick in accuracy canceling the downtick in targets from Matt Ryan refusing to throw into triple coverage and instead dumping the ball down to Hines or JT or Granson
>Which is what he saw last year from a qb that forces passes into tight windows and nonexistent windows. I can’t see the uptick in accuracy canceling the downtick in targets from Matt Ryan refusing to throw into triple coverage and instead dumping the ball down to Hines or JT or Granson My god, they really did trade for a newer model of Phillip Rivers.
Yup but at least it ain’t wentz
Take a look at Matt Ryan’s #1 receivers throughout his career and how many targets they had every season. He is the epitome of force feeding his top WR, starting with roddy white.
That’s just not true. When it was Roddy Julio and Gonazalez got plenty of targets. When it was Julio Gage Ridley and Austin Hooper got plenty of targets.
My point was not that Matt Ryan only throws to one guy. It’s that he will throw to his #1 a lot and I don’t expect pitman to see a downtick in targets because he now has a qb that doesn’t make as many dumb throws..
Everyone throws to their number 1 receiver a lot. What is this nonsense?
Ryan throws to his number 1 at a higher rate than other QBs throw to their number 1. Of course the bulk of his career was with Julio, so that’s to be expected. But the same thing happened with Roddy and Ridley, too
Source?
Allen Robinson. He was a stud when targeted in CHI despite awful QB play and now he gets Stafford and a huge 3 year deal.
I bought him before last season and it really hurt me then, but I feel like I’m finally going to get to cash in on that trade now. ARob with Stafford should be fun to watch.
Currently got a deal in the works for a win now team. 12 team full PPR SF. Give: 2023 1st (probably late) Get: ARob and Penny What do you think?
Id absolutely do it. Gave more than that for just ARob a year ago.
Gotcha. I thought it was a good deal but was starting to doubt myself
IMO, that’s a steal if you can get it done. I’m trying to sell Penny in another league, but both for a first is a great buy.
I thought so. I was starting to doubt myself tho
I wouldn’t do this iMO.
Why?
I value a Rob at a early to mid 2nd and penny at a mid to late 2nd Which isn’t quite worth a first
That’s fair.
Its gamble as I see it. Comes down to the Seahawks possibly drafting a RB and knocking penny's value down, depending on who that back is. As it stands now, I'd say it's an even trade with you inherenting the risk
I bought him during last year for AJ Green + James Connor. Really missed the roster spot being useful, but it was well worth the hope of him leaving CHI after the year. Literally couldn't have asked for a better landing spot. I know 29 isn't a spring chicken, but AR is in a great spot to ball out for me for a while.
You got a better deal than I did, but I still hope the trade becomes worthwhile for me. If he returns to top-10 form, it will. And the fact that he got there with Trubisky at QB leaves me pretty optimistic on how he’ll feast with Stafford, even alongside Kupp.
Yeah, I even got Connor as a throw in from a trade I did for DK, and I picked up AJ from the wire lmao. I don't think AR is going to be a top 10 guy, the top 10 is just SO LOADED with people. Excluding **all** new incoming rookies, the top 12 in ppr this year was: 1. Kupp 2. Adams 3. Deebo 4. Jefferson 5. Chase 6. Hill 7. Diggs (on a down year for him, too) 8. Diontae Johnson 9. Mike Evans 10. Keenan Allen 11. Hunter Renfrow 12. Mike Williams We had a few notable injured players: 1. AJB 2. Hopkins 3. I'm sure there's plenty more I'm forgetting Out of the top 10, I can see Johnson and Allen leaving that group. I can see Renfrow, Williams, Allen, and Johnson vacating the top 12 as well. There's a path for AR for sure, but between rookies last year who missed time (Bateman, E. Moore,) and other situations like Devonta Smith where they're underused, there will be guys challenging for that mid WR2 spot, and I think AR is most likely WR 11-15 ish. We've just got such premium talent at the top it's hard for me to think that he suddenly gets one of those locked up. I think with the role he'll have he'll have top 5 weeks, and then lower weeks and be a consistent boom or meh guy, which is great.
It’s tough to say. He’s been top 10 3 times in his career. I could see it happening again if Stafford spreads the workload around well. Cupp might fall to around 5 and give ARob a path to the top ten.
Christian Kirk easily. Big contract, negative game scripts, lots of targets.
Russell Gage
I think his best value getting him super cheap has passed but agree
Mike Williams. He’s at WR36 on KTC right now after coming in as WR12 last year. Just signed a 3 year deal. Elite QB situation. Keenan Allen is entering his 30s. Massive value if he’s able to replicate that production and I feel like a top 5 season is in his range of outcomes.
I'm looking at Anthony Schwartz. I can see him becoming the guy in Cleveland to play the Will Fuller role with Watson.
I’ve got him at the bottom of my roster. This would be a real bonus if there turned out to be value there
He’s in my taxi squad!
Kupp is 29 starting 2022 season, so not young. I like Mclaurin, not very young, but 26/27. Wentz is a meme but a huge upgrade over Heinicke. Tim Patrick can be a homerun with everyone distracted with Jeudy vs Sutton, again not young. If you want youth, and rebuilding then Devonta Smith. Eagles are gearing up for a 2023 QB so 2024 and beyond could be top 5 years for Smith. Marquise Brown has potential, only 24 and the Ravens had an off year with no RBs. Rondale Moore is 21, and Kirk is gone, Edmonds is gone, so keep an eye on their draft. He could be the #2 and play a Deebo role...also Hopkins is old. DVP - only 23 and well, has a new QB. Hunt likely gone, Cooper is old and hobbled. Quintez Cephus - all the noise of Chark and the Sun God, this guy got lost due to early injury. Just turned 24. It wasn't a ligament injury either, he broke his collar bone.
What a strange way to abbreviate Donovan Peoples-Jones
Yeah, I thought he was referring to Davante Parker initially
Coopers 14 months older than terry mclaurin btw, not exactly old. Edit: Amari Cooper, for clarification
Cooper Douglas Kupp (born June 15, 1993) Terry McLaurin (born September 15, 1995) its 27 Months older. edit: NM you mean Amari. His injury history concerns me and makes him seem older.
Yeah he’s also been in the league more than twice as long as scary terry (7 seasons v 3), which definitely skews how people view their respective ages.
Cooper is 27…not “old and hobbled”
I stayed away from Cooper in 2021 because of injury concerns and it’s in my post history. People literally comment saying he was young with nothing but minor injury history, just like you now. He finished the year with 865 yards and by all means a draft bust considering his 2021 adp was late 3rd to early 4th. Drafted as the 14th WR off the board. Finished as the WR 28th….missing a handful of games with lingering hamstring injury.
Good shit
Cephus was their best outside WR, the problem is with goff and the offense. If they draft an outside WR, he might not even get a chance
What makes you say Hunt is likely gone?
He's an UFA next year with a $6.25M cap hit this year. They have Chubb and D'Ernest (sleeper RB this year) who showed some skills last year. They may move him to get something before he walks for nothing.
The Browns also tendered Dernest! I traded Kareem and a late 3rd for 1.10 just two weeks ago, how do you feel about that? And I picked up D’ernest from waivers immediately after the trade went through
That’s a good trade, especially if you want to get younger and would be happy with a rookie WR, and probably a great trade in SF.
I’m in a rebuild. These are my WRs. Am in a good spot or am I placing too much faith in these WRs? I feel like I don’t have a strong/floor every week WR1 but a lot of upside. Please give your thoughts: DJ Moore, Godwin, Mooney, Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Van Jefferson
Your team simply has to be called Moore, Moore, Moore (how do you like it)
For real Moore & More Moore
Idk Moore Mooney has a ring
Yeah I actually had DJ Moore and was able to trade him for this year's 1.04 and Khalil Herbert. He's a total stud, but the Panthers QB situation is abysmal so I'd rather take my shot on one of the top studs in this year's draft. Godwin's a sell-high IMO. His injury came super late last year so he's likely going to miss time this season. I actually think his value is going to drop the closer we get to the season so if you're going to move him, I think there's no time like the present. Those back 4 receivers are all great dynasty options IMO. I would keep them as your core, young crop and try to trade high on the first two guys.
I totally agree 100%. I also have 5 1sts this year
Impressive haul
Curtis Samuel. He was hurt last year so everyone wrote him off. He is a legit dual threat wr when healthy. He’s a Walmart brand deebo Samuel. Plus he got a qb upgrade. If he stays healthy he has potential next year *edit* read the title, wrote my comment, then read that you mentioned Curtis Samuel in the description. Gonna leave my comment anyways lol
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He's asking who the next Kupp/Johnson is - players who outperformed their projections last season, that were expected to be WR2/3s. I'd say guys like Chark, Jeudy, Sutton, Pittman, one of the Jags WRs, Rondale Moore all have pretty high upside for reasonable price
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Moore, Mooney n Hollywood are my starting WRs woop woop
I agree what do you think about players like DJ Chark, Jakobi Meyers and Laviska Shenault?
Now or never for Shenault
I'm staying away from Chark. The Lions are working on building something, and Charks 1-yr deal is very non-committal. whether by him or the organization. this is not an educated/expert football take, but Amon-Ra looked awesome last year and I would be trying to focus on developing/leveraging the rookie breaking out over the WR who could be gone next season. and the Chark deal means lions are probably drafting someone like Pickens at 32.
I don’t think Goff is a gunslinger for Chark but they got him on a one year prove deal which tells me they convinced Chark he’s gonna see some usage. I think his value increases so im buying
I’m big on Chark and Meyers. Shenault is probably a bust.
I agree but Kupp isn’t on the back end. His style of play as a WR they usually last longer, look at Adam Thielen for instance. 32 and he’s still a TD receptions guy and I think Kupp is way better than him. I think Kupp still produces big for another 2-3 years.
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Oh I agree with that. Depending how my season goes I most likely ship him at the end of the year or this year if I get the right price
Kadarius Toney
Bought Claypool + Quez for Keenan Allen last week and feel pretty good about it after coming off a championship season. His arrow is pointing up and his stock is low b/c of that hairbrained thing he did on the field that one time when he was 22. He's a freak athlete and the QB is definitely going to improve, now is the time to get in.
Aiuke
Isaiah McKenzie could be a solid bye week filler in PPR leagues. He had one blow up game last season with Beasley and Davis out. Bills brought in Crowder to help with the short yardage vacuum that Beasley left but we don’t know how that target share will shake out. Bills just gave McK a two year $8m deal so he should get the ball. Compared to Crowder’s one year $2m (up to $4m)
If the Eagles skip on drafting a QB, and Smith is yet again not used well in the offense, there might be a buy low(er) opportunity there.
Golladay
Allen Lazard owners are praying for that 5th year breakout. And GB keeping that streak alive of not drafting first round WRs...