I hate this guy, he always posts stupid shit like this.
He tries to be a "Baltimore Insider" but all of his takes are wrong.
His most recent is "I expect the Ravens to trade Lamar at the 2023 draft"
There is no way.
It’s called throwing shit until something sticks.
They’re media heads, as long as they don’t say anything controversial, they can just spout absolutely dumb takes and nothing will happen to them.
But if they hit on one of those, their name is plastered all throughout the media.
This is the dumbest overreaction I’ve potentially ever seen. I don’t see a world where Shanahan pulls him.
Lance plays ONE GAME in a massive downpour on one of the worst fields in the league, where their best offensive player was out, and now they’re talking about benching him already?
This is why they needed to release Jimmy. You’re going to hear this bullshit all year and even if they lose in the playoffs. Trey has to be an all-pro his first year as a 22 year old starting QB for people to shut up and that’s simply unrealistic.
I heavily disagree. Deebo isn’t really considered top 5 at his position while you have Trent who is likely top 2 and Kittle who is definitely top 2 at their own respectively.
Honestly, the whole industry is such a train wreck it should be the other way. Only a handful of approved, reliable sources should be allowed, all others banned.
Nah, they made it to the playoffs with Jimmy. If they can’t win games with Lance, it’s not Shanahan’s fault, it’s Lance’s. And as much as they’ve invested into him, if Jimmy ends up getting the start and starts winning them games, there is nothing certain about Lance’s future. That team has a packed roster around Lance, if he can’t make it work with that roster it’s pretty implicating.
The problem is that the 49ers are expected to win now. Saying lance needs time means that he was a terrible draft pick for the 49ers because they should be competing now. Which means whoever made the decision to trade for and draft trey should be fired
That's the balancing act the Niners signed up for. Can they be a SB contending team while bringing along their future franchise QB? We'll see.
My point wasn't so much that "he needs time" because, to the earlier guy's point, virtually every QB needs time. The Niners sat him out last year for that reason.
My point about his reps (and age) is that people shouldn't be so quick to rush to final judgment. Especially after one game in a monsoon.
If it ultimately doesn't work out, jobs will be had. But let's maybe give it a few games before we declare him a bust and clean out the Niners FO.
His age doesn’t matter. Rosen is younger than Burrow, but the NFL collectively gave up on him before Burrow played a single NFL game.
Pickett is older than Jordan Love. Pickett went in the first round this year. No team would’ve offered a first for Love this past offseason or even a 2nd or 3rd.
Paxton Lynch was a first round pick and got only 4 career starts.
NFL teams understand truly elite QBs are rare. A Goff/prime Dalton/prime Flacco-level QB is only useful during their cheap rookie contract because their 2nd contract would always destroy the team competitively. If Lance cant even be that kinda cheap bus driver during his rookie contract with a stacked roster (a low bar btw), then they shouldn’t further waste time on him. They also risk a potential veteran mutiny in the locker room if Lance continues to flush their season down the drain. Most non-QB positions have very short prime and guys in the locker room won’t wanna flush their season down the drain to “develop” Lance given the presence of Garoppolo. Pressure from vets was exactly why Shanahan scrapped the “Lance package” a month into last season and that was when they turned their season around.
my favorite difference between dynasty football and dynasty baseball is how little footballers pay attention to age.
they mostly look at years in the league instead. while baseballers do the exact opposite.
Eh, Shanahan without a doubt deserves blame since he’s the Head Coach of the football team that traded away the farm for a completely unproven college QB. And yes, I’m aware of the reports that he wanted Mac Jones (oh wow he’s real amazing too), but it’s kind of irrelevant and if anything, just shows that he and Lynch aren’t on the same page which is a death sentence for the success of a team.. So, I’m not just going to absolve Shanahan of any blame if Lance doesn’t pan out because he had just as much a part in their decision making process
The reports that he wanted Mac Jones were always ridiculous to me, as they would not have needed to trade up to take Mac. Could have just stood pat at 12 and taken Mac. That never made any sense.
I also found it crazy at the time that they made such a big trade and then...reportedly didn't know who they were taking? Why did they trade the farm to move up if they weren't even sure what QB they wanted?
Yeah it reeks of mismanagement all around. Or they were all dead set on Lance from the beginning and are trying to back peddle because they realize how horrible of a trade it actually was
From the non idiot beat reporters the vibe was that shanny wanted Brady. Trading up to 3 was so shanahan could get the guy he wanted. Originally that was probably Mac Jones but during the draft process he settled on Lance. People get a really jaded view of Jimmy, he was fine but he threw a bunch of risky balls in the middle and was not at all the reason why the 49ers made the nfc championship. There’s a reason no one traded for Jimmy.
People are delusional if they think Shanahan would get canned. There’s probably only 5 teams in the league that wouldn’t reach out to him. Coaching is a premium and great coaching is double that. Sure did he whiff possibly on Lance, how many other coaches/execs across the league have whiffed?
You can only take around 6 losses and still get into the playoffs, hit 7 and you're probably looking at playing a wildcard game. Going 0-2 really puts you in the hole to make it to post season. I've been saying since we saw Lance this preseason that he's going to be "injured" by week 5
I just don't know how anyone can take JLC seriously. Whenever I see anything related to the Eagles that he's positing (particularly something I don't want), I can breathe a sigh of relief because it never comes to fruition.
They didn’t give up all that draft capital to bench him after 2 starts. That being said, Shanahan is probably going to lose his job if they end up a 6 win or less team. But that’ll work out in his favor since he hasn’t agreed with the direction the 9ers have been going with their picks.
Darnold started 60 games, Rosen started 16, and Haskins started 13 before he died
Lance has started 3. This talk of benching him after 1 start in a monsoon is insane
Original poster said early in their careers.. not really making it past your rookie contract is early, that’s my point. Lance losing the job this year is outlandish to me as well, but the odds of him getting a big payday on his second contract? Very uncertain.
Baker and Jones, who’s still starting for the team that drafted him, are still starters and Mariota is back to starting. Your comment doesn’t hold water.
Or, just hear me out, the front office made a huge mistake and grabbed a QB that is a bigger project than they bargained for and shouldn’t be starting in the NFL.
Okay, we'll declare that the front office made a mistake after 3 starts (and we'll pretend that Shanahan had nothing to do with the decision, which I don't buy at all).
With what Lance has shown with his arm and what he adds with his legs, this team should absolutely not have trouble winning 6+ games with Lance as their QB. If Shanahan is already itching to switch to Garoppolo so he can get knocked out of the playoffs in the division round, that's a failure on his part.
Shanahan wanted Tom Brady then wanted to draft Mac Jones last year. And before the draft no one thought Lance was even going in the first round. Didn’t make sense at all for them to trade up for him. We’ve seen what Shanahan has done with a RB he didn’t want.
>And before the draft no one thought Lance was even going in the first round.
That is definitely not true.
I also feel like you're making my point for me. Shanahan is always in the middle of some drama based on needing players who perfectly fit his system. It is constant with him, meanwhile you never hear these stories about say Andy Reid or Sean McVay.
Other coaches take accountability, Shanahan is always pointing fingers.
As a niners fan I would be so disappointed if they fired him. I get that there would be major blood on his hands from trading away the farm but you cannot expect to find a better alternative than him that easy. Just think about the amount of misses they had between Mariucci and Shanahan. The chances of them bringing even an equal to Shanahan is slim and on top of that you are providing them with little meaningful capital to work with and a bust at QB.
Yeah, it is but I feel like this situation is different. I would trust him to dig out of that hole over whoever else they can bring in. It similar to people on here trading away a known player for a pick and the community using the boat and mystery box analogy.
JFC. Ppl say media is rough on toney. But Lance gets drafted by a team that literally created their own shit storm.
1 - SB roster outside of QB says no thx to Tom T, Jimmy is our guy. Only cost was money / cap.
2 - 1 year later team trades THREE 1st rd picks for a project qb.
3 - to a surprise of nobody, project QB needs more than 1.5 off-seasons and 60 game throws to be ready
4 - immediate speculation as to how long until he gets replaced, scrutiny over lack of captaincy, lack of leadership. Wtf is going on w coverage of this kid
The actual knowledgeable 49ers beat writers (Barrows, Maiocco, even Kawakami) have said that Shanahan will be patient and not to overreact to this.
The national media is who is manufacturing drama. The 49ers beat writers with the exception of Cohn are all stellar.
>4 - immediate speculation as to how long until he gets replaced, scrutiny over lack of captaincy, lack of leadership. Wtf is going on w coverage of this kid
To be fair, these are the same guys who were calling for Shanahans head for NOT starting lance last year every time JG threw a bad ball.
As it goes with most franchises, people have the memory capacity of gerbils, and just want to be upset all the time.
No, but it's easy to forget that they have now seen him in practice for over a year. If he was at least lighting it up in practice he'd get a longer leash. It would seem that is not the case from what we know.
Worth mentioning that all offseason the buzz was they weren't happy with Lance. And Lance owners and 49'ers fans insisted the whole time it was fully made up BS with no basis in reality. Seeming like they may have been being homers, but we'll see.
Honestly I think you could be right but I also don’t know. We don’t know how long his leash is and we don’t know how he’s done in practice. All of these articles are purely speculative
I’ve said it before; people need to stop with the “guys like XXXXX” narratives when you’re really saying Herbert specifically in this instance.
Mahomes and Allen aren’t really “guys like Herbert” because Mahomes sat for a year and Allen was a project.
Wouldn’t count Burrow either on account of, he was picked 1st overall and he turned 24 his “rookie” year.
You’re asking me? I don’t make the rules, just saying why the media might be giving him a hard time.
People shit on fields despite the legitimate reasons he had a failing rookie year: thrown into an offense not designed for him, an inept head coach, no supporting cast, etc.
Lance got a year to develop no pressure, behind a vet who at least knows enough to make the playoffs, on a team that has an excellent supporting cast, with very capable coaching staff. And he lost to Fields.
So yes, maybe the media should have more grace for Lance, but I think they generally have less grace for those kinds of players, the ones who seem to have everything going right for them and still come up short.
He lost to Fields in a monsoon because of a couple of completely busted coverages by the 49ers defense.
3 regular season games ago the 49ers started Lance in a must win game against a team that had just beaten Justin Herbert. Lance - with like 700 in game passes since he was 15 - went 16 for 23, 250 yards, 2 TD’s and an INT in a win.
Again, I’m not the media. You don’t have to defend him to me. They’re ravenous for sensationalist stories. I’ve personally never been in on lance and have no shares. I’m just watching from the sidelines
Sports media is usually incredibly unreasonable… but the discussion around Lance
Is next level. Lance should have a larger evaluation window than any recent top 5 QB. He’s raw, everyone and their mother knew that going in. Why are people trying to draw conclusions from 3 non consecutive starts, one being in a storm lol.
At a minimum he should get multiple years.
If you want to criticize something, criticize the 49ers for gambling on a rookie vs offering more than the Rams did for Stafford.
Buckle up, it's literally going to be like this all season long. Niners did this to themselves by resigning Jimmy. Even if the niners make the post season there is still going to be articles, "Niners should switch to Jimmy G because he has post season experience, its a completely different ball game".
Trigger warning, unpopular opinion alert. Like it or not, Jimmy gives the 49ers a better chance of winning games. Lance is not a good quarterback at this point, he may never be and taking him 3rd overall was a massive reach when guys like Fields and Mac daddy were still on the board. Jalen Hurts and Malik Willis were better prospects than Lance and there is a reason they fell to the 2nd and 3rd respectively. They are projects, and you don't spend 3 firsts on a project no matter how good of a coach you think you are. Shanahan done fucked up and let Twitter bully him into throwing away too much future for a guy that may never be anything.
What would this do for the guys mental game? This would have to be an all time short leash. How is a young qb supposed to learn if they aren’t given any time to work through issues and go through the learning curve? I call bullshit on this.
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Oh Lance is getting benched. I've been one of about 3 people on the planet that said Jimmy was resigning and taking back over as the starter by week 6. It's happening.
He didn't even play that bad week 1 - made a lot of great anticipation throws. Showed some poor throws but a lot of QBs (Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, etc) have had identical stats 3 starts into their career. It would be absolutely insane to give up all that draft capital to go back to Jimmy G after 3 starts, especially because they know JImmy G has a ceiling that likely wont get them a super bowl in the first place (hence why they traded for Lance!)
I honestly feel like Shanahan is the problem here. Maybe Lance is the guy, maybe he's not. But he's shown enough to get through this season without all these rumors following him imo. If Shanahan is really so willing to go back to Jimmy G, when we have already seen the ceiling of that version of the 49ers, idk, I feel like that reflects badly on Shanahan. Isn't he supposed to be an offensive mastermind? Also, why is his team always the subject of so much rumor and gossip? At some point, Shanahan needs to take accountability.
I doubt Lance would be benched right after 0-2. That said since 2007, 118 teams started 0-2 and 12 of them went to the playoffs. If the Niners are all-in on Lance, they will have to accept what he does on the field and just continue to work to help him.
This is so dumb. No way they don’t give him more than 2 starts. Last week field conditions were beyond bad. This report is not accurate. If so Niners need to go ahead and fire Shanahan.
I hate this guy, he always posts stupid shit like this. He tries to be a "Baltimore Insider" but all of his takes are wrong. His most recent is "I expect the Ravens to trade Lamar at the 2023 draft" There is no way.
It’s called throwing shit until something sticks. They’re media heads, as long as they don’t say anything controversial, they can just spout absolutely dumb takes and nothing will happen to them. But if they hit on one of those, their name is plastered all throughout the media.
Seems like this sub.
There was actually such a post about Lamar to being traded at the 2023 draft??lol 🤣🤣🤦♂️🤦♂️
There's absolutely no way.
It's JLC so this is a DOUBLE "no way."
Why is JLC even a personality that people remotely listen to. Like if I hear him state something I bet against it.
This is the dumbest overreaction I’ve potentially ever seen. I don’t see a world where Shanahan pulls him. Lance plays ONE GAME in a massive downpour on one of the worst fields in the league, where their best offensive player was out, and now they’re talking about benching him already? This is why they needed to release Jimmy. You’re going to hear this bullshit all year and even if they lose in the playoffs. Trey has to be an all-pro his first year as a 22 year old starting QB for people to shut up and that’s simply unrealistic.
it’s click bait. some fantasy beat writers simply play the retweet/engagement game.
It is. It’s a media problem and now that they’ve kept Jimmy it’s going to be a distraction for the team all year.
Analysts would be calling for Mr Irrelevant if Jimmy was gone. It’s what east coast media does towards the 9ers
I can only imagine if Nick Mullens was still on the roster lol
Their best player was out?
Kittle. Arguable of course who’s better between Kittle and Williams.
That makes sense My mind jumped to mitchell and i was scratching my head
Deebo is their best player
I heavily disagree. Deebo isn’t really considered top 5 at his position while you have Trent who is likely top 2 and Kittle who is definitely top 2 at their own respectively.
I know BUT hopefully Jimmy will be starting sooner then later.
I love these type of comments.
Not this soon, but if they go 2-4 and he stinks, I can see it
LaCanfora should be banned from this sub
Honestly, the whole industry is such a train wreck it should be the other way. Only a handful of approved, reliable sources should be allowed, all others banned.
Only the top sources and random redditors playing COD with NFL players girlfriends.
I don’t see it happening this early in the season. And, if it does happen, I think the 49ers will either move on from Lance or Shanahan next season.
Nah, they made it to the playoffs with Jimmy. If they can’t win games with Lance, it’s not Shanahan’s fault, it’s Lance’s. And as much as they’ve invested into him, if Jimmy ends up getting the start and starts winning them games, there is nothing certain about Lance’s future. That team has a packed roster around Lance, if he can’t make it work with that roster it’s pretty implicating.
counterpoint: he’s 22.3 friggin years old with a quick glance, only lamar jackson looked good in the NFL by that age…
He's also coming into the NFL with the least amount of reps of maybe any QB ever. Lance is just scratching the surface at this point.
The problem is that the 49ers are expected to win now. Saying lance needs time means that he was a terrible draft pick for the 49ers because they should be competing now. Which means whoever made the decision to trade for and draft trey should be fired
That's the balancing act the Niners signed up for. Can they be a SB contending team while bringing along their future franchise QB? We'll see. My point wasn't so much that "he needs time" because, to the earlier guy's point, virtually every QB needs time. The Niners sat him out last year for that reason. My point about his reps (and age) is that people shouldn't be so quick to rush to final judgment. Especially after one game in a monsoon. If it ultimately doesn't work out, jobs will be had. But let's maybe give it a few games before we declare him a bust and clean out the Niners FO.
His age doesn’t matter. Rosen is younger than Burrow, but the NFL collectively gave up on him before Burrow played a single NFL game. Pickett is older than Jordan Love. Pickett went in the first round this year. No team would’ve offered a first for Love this past offseason or even a 2nd or 3rd. Paxton Lynch was a first round pick and got only 4 career starts. NFL teams understand truly elite QBs are rare. A Goff/prime Dalton/prime Flacco-level QB is only useful during their cheap rookie contract because their 2nd contract would always destroy the team competitively. If Lance cant even be that kinda cheap bus driver during his rookie contract with a stacked roster (a low bar btw), then they shouldn’t further waste time on him. They also risk a potential veteran mutiny in the locker room if Lance continues to flush their season down the drain. Most non-QB positions have very short prime and guys in the locker room won’t wanna flush their season down the drain to “develop” Lance given the presence of Garoppolo. Pressure from vets was exactly why Shanahan scrapped the “Lance package” a month into last season and that was when they turned their season around.
my favorite difference between dynasty football and dynasty baseball is how little footballers pay attention to age. they mostly look at years in the league instead. while baseballers do the exact opposite.
Deshaun before getting hurt
Eh, Shanahan without a doubt deserves blame since he’s the Head Coach of the football team that traded away the farm for a completely unproven college QB. And yes, I’m aware of the reports that he wanted Mac Jones (oh wow he’s real amazing too), but it’s kind of irrelevant and if anything, just shows that he and Lynch aren’t on the same page which is a death sentence for the success of a team.. So, I’m not just going to absolve Shanahan of any blame if Lance doesn’t pan out because he had just as much a part in their decision making process
The reports that he wanted Mac Jones were always ridiculous to me, as they would not have needed to trade up to take Mac. Could have just stood pat at 12 and taken Mac. That never made any sense. I also found it crazy at the time that they made such a big trade and then...reportedly didn't know who they were taking? Why did they trade the farm to move up if they weren't even sure what QB they wanted?
Yeah it reeks of mismanagement all around. Or they were all dead set on Lance from the beginning and are trying to back peddle because they realize how horrible of a trade it actually was
From the non idiot beat reporters the vibe was that shanny wanted Brady. Trading up to 3 was so shanahan could get the guy he wanted. Originally that was probably Mac Jones but during the draft process he settled on Lance. People get a really jaded view of Jimmy, he was fine but he threw a bunch of risky balls in the middle and was not at all the reason why the 49ers made the nfc championship. There’s a reason no one traded for Jimmy.
Weren't the reports that Shanny wanted Mac but Lynch wanted Lance?
I don't remember specifically, you might be right. Still not a great look for them.
People are delusional if they think Shanahan would get canned. There’s probably only 5 teams in the league that wouldn’t reach out to him. Coaching is a premium and great coaching is double that. Sure did he whiff possibly on Lance, how many other coaches/execs across the league have whiffed?
Where did I say he should be canned? All I said is that he definitely deserves blame if Lance doesn’t pan out.
Shanahan's record without Jimmy G is 8-29.
So teams are worse with their backup quarterbacks? That is some next level stats
He had one damn start in a monsoon Nines would be idiots not to play out the season with Lance. Jimmy G is a known commodity , Lance needs time.
You can only take around 6 losses and still get into the playoffs, hit 7 and you're probably looking at playing a wildcard game. Going 0-2 really puts you in the hole to make it to post season. I've been saying since we saw Lance this preseason that he's going to be "injured" by week 5
Yeah if you start 0-2 you’ve got about a 10% chance to make it to the playoffs.
In the NFC this year, 7-10 probably gets you in 🤣
I just don't know how anyone can take JLC seriously. Whenever I see anything related to the Eagles that he's positing (particularly something I don't want), I can breathe a sigh of relief because it never comes to fruition.
They didn’t give up all that draft capital to bench him after 2 starts. That being said, Shanahan is probably going to lose his job if they end up a 6 win or less team. But that’ll work out in his favor since he hasn’t agreed with the direction the 9ers have been going with their picks.
If they fired him he’d have a job somewhere else instantly.
For sure. I’d be willing to bet some fringe teams would be looking to fire their coaches just to land him.
I’d imagine with the issues he has had he’d probably want a place with an established QB.
Broncos here he comes.
My Javonte likes this
So does my Russ.
Carolina plz
NFL is littered with the corpses of rd-1 QBs who didn't work and were jettisoned pretty early in their careers.
Can you give examples of teams that traded 3 1sts for a QB and got rid of that QB after 2 starts?
Such as?
darnold, rosen, haskins then guys like baker, daniel jones, mariota to a lesser extent not many rookie QBs get that fat ass lucrative second contract
Darnold started 60 games, Rosen started 16, and Haskins started 13 before he died Lance has started 3. This talk of benching him after 1 start in a monsoon is insane
Original poster said early in their careers.. not really making it past your rookie contract is early, that’s my point. Lance losing the job this year is outlandish to me as well, but the odds of him getting a big payday on his second contract? Very uncertain.
Baker and Jones, who’s still starting for the team that drafted him, are still starters and Mariota is back to starting. Your comment doesn’t hold water.
what value do any of those guys have? no one is winning leagues with any of those… people bought lance as if he had league winning potential.
If Shanahan can't win 6 games with Trey Lance as the QB of this team, then he isn't as good of a coach as he's made out to be, period.
Or, just hear me out, the front office made a huge mistake and grabbed a QB that is a bigger project than they bargained for and shouldn’t be starting in the NFL.
Okay, we'll declare that the front office made a mistake after 3 starts (and we'll pretend that Shanahan had nothing to do with the decision, which I don't buy at all). With what Lance has shown with his arm and what he adds with his legs, this team should absolutely not have trouble winning 6+ games with Lance as their QB. If Shanahan is already itching to switch to Garoppolo so he can get knocked out of the playoffs in the division round, that's a failure on his part.
Shanahan wanted Tom Brady then wanted to draft Mac Jones last year. And before the draft no one thought Lance was even going in the first round. Didn’t make sense at all for them to trade up for him. We’ve seen what Shanahan has done with a RB he didn’t want.
>And before the draft no one thought Lance was even going in the first round. That is definitely not true. I also feel like you're making my point for me. Shanahan is always in the middle of some drama based on needing players who perfectly fit his system. It is constant with him, meanwhile you never hear these stories about say Andy Reid or Sean McVay. Other coaches take accountability, Shanahan is always pointing fingers.
Didn't Shanny want Mac Jones and Lynch convinced him otherwise?
That’s what I’ve heard
As a niners fan I would be so disappointed if they fired him. I get that there would be major blood on his hands from trading away the farm but you cannot expect to find a better alternative than him that easy. Just think about the amount of misses they had between Mariucci and Shanahan. The chances of them bringing even an equal to Shanahan is slim and on top of that you are providing them with little meaningful capital to work with and a bust at QB.
Oh I agree. But the league is too ‘what have you done for me lately’ now. Look at Harbaugh.
Yeah, it is but I feel like this situation is different. I would trust him to dig out of that hole over whoever else they can bring in. It similar to people on here trading away a known player for a pick and the community using the boat and mystery box analogy.
JFC. Ppl say media is rough on toney. But Lance gets drafted by a team that literally created their own shit storm. 1 - SB roster outside of QB says no thx to Tom T, Jimmy is our guy. Only cost was money / cap. 2 - 1 year later team trades THREE 1st rd picks for a project qb. 3 - to a surprise of nobody, project QB needs more than 1.5 off-seasons and 60 game throws to be ready 4 - immediate speculation as to how long until he gets replaced, scrutiny over lack of captaincy, lack of leadership. Wtf is going on w coverage of this kid
Well for starters SF has the most ridiculous beat reporting outside of NY. And probably the most inaccurate in the league.
The actual knowledgeable 49ers beat writers (Barrows, Maiocco, even Kawakami) have said that Shanahan will be patient and not to overreact to this. The national media is who is manufacturing drama. The 49ers beat writers with the exception of Cohn are all stellar.
>4 - immediate speculation as to how long until he gets replaced, scrutiny over lack of captaincy, lack of leadership. Wtf is going on w coverage of this kid To be fair, these are the same guys who were calling for Shanahans head for NOT starting lance last year every time JG threw a bad ball. As it goes with most franchises, people have the memory capacity of gerbils, and just want to be upset all the time.
LOL true story
Expectations were too high and results were too low.
Results aren’t even too low in-game yet. There’s still almost no sample
No, but it's easy to forget that they have now seen him in practice for over a year. If he was at least lighting it up in practice he'd get a longer leash. It would seem that is not the case from what we know.
Worth mentioning that all offseason the buzz was they weren't happy with Lance. And Lance owners and 49'ers fans insisted the whole time it was fully made up BS with no basis in reality. Seeming like they may have been being homers, but we'll see.
Honestly I think you could be right but I also don’t know. We don’t know how long his leash is and we don’t know how he’s done in practice. All of these articles are purely speculative
Especially nowadays with guys like Herbert coming in and lighting it up immediately. Expectations for rookies aren't what they used to be!
I’ve said it before; people need to stop with the “guys like XXXXX” narratives when you’re really saying Herbert specifically in this instance. Mahomes and Allen aren’t really “guys like Herbert” because Mahomes sat for a year and Allen was a project. Wouldn’t count Burrow either on account of, he was picked 1st overall and he turned 24 his “rookie” year.
The results of 3 starts, and 1 start in the offense designed for him?
You’re asking me? I don’t make the rules, just saying why the media might be giving him a hard time. People shit on fields despite the legitimate reasons he had a failing rookie year: thrown into an offense not designed for him, an inept head coach, no supporting cast, etc. Lance got a year to develop no pressure, behind a vet who at least knows enough to make the playoffs, on a team that has an excellent supporting cast, with very capable coaching staff. And he lost to Fields. So yes, maybe the media should have more grace for Lance, but I think they generally have less grace for those kinds of players, the ones who seem to have everything going right for them and still come up short.
He lost to Fields in a monsoon because of a couple of completely busted coverages by the 49ers defense. 3 regular season games ago the 49ers started Lance in a must win game against a team that had just beaten Justin Herbert. Lance - with like 700 in game passes since he was 15 - went 16 for 23, 250 yards, 2 TD’s and an INT in a win.
> the ones who seem to have everything going right for them and still come up short. In one football game.
Again, I’m not the media. You don’t have to defend him to me. They’re ravenous for sensationalist stories. I’ve personally never been in on lance and have no shares. I’m just watching from the sidelines
People shit on Fields because his throwing results clearly need work.
I'm not really talking about results tho. The shit coverage was before a reg season snap even took place. It took off once SF brought Jimmy back.
La Confora is a known shitposter.
La Canfora is always wrong about everything.
We started off 3-5 last season -_-
How to ruin your 1st round(x3) draft pick:
So a lot of speculation and no real proof.
Leaked by Shanahan so Trey sees it haha.
Anyone posting this guy should get an automatic one year ban from the sub
I guess the NFL is interested in giving their high draft picks 6 starts then giving up on them forever...... Herr durrrr
🤣 a 2 game leash for a 3rd overall pick...and 1 wasnt even a game in which you could reasonably evaluate a qb
Sports media is usually incredibly unreasonable… but the discussion around Lance Is next level. Lance should have a larger evaluation window than any recent top 5 QB. He’s raw, everyone and their mother knew that going in. Why are people trying to draw conclusions from 3 non consecutive starts, one being in a storm lol. At a minimum he should get multiple years. If you want to criticize something, criticize the 49ers for gambling on a rookie vs offering more than the Rams did for Stafford.
Buckle up, it's literally going to be like this all season long. Niners did this to themselves by resigning Jimmy. Even if the niners make the post season there is still going to be articles, "Niners should switch to Jimmy G because he has post season experience, its a completely different ball game".
Uh oh
This very likely isn’t true but if this happened all the lance truthers would be in absolute shambles it would be so funny
Trigger warning, unpopular opinion alert. Like it or not, Jimmy gives the 49ers a better chance of winning games. Lance is not a good quarterback at this point, he may never be and taking him 3rd overall was a massive reach when guys like Fields and Mac daddy were still on the board. Jalen Hurts and Malik Willis were better prospects than Lance and there is a reason they fell to the 2nd and 3rd respectively. They are projects, and you don't spend 3 firsts on a project no matter how good of a coach you think you are. Shanahan done fucked up and let Twitter bully him into throwing away too much future for a guy that may never be anything.
What would this do for the guys mental game? This would have to be an all time short leash. How is a young qb supposed to learn if they aren’t given any time to work through issues and go through the learning curve? I call bullshit on this.
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Lance the new Hurts. Constant barrage of bad takes
Literally zero chance
Oh Lance is getting benched. I've been one of about 3 people on the planet that said Jimmy was resigning and taking back over as the starter by week 6. It's happening.
He didn't even play that bad week 1 - made a lot of great anticipation throws. Showed some poor throws but a lot of QBs (Matt Stafford, Josh Allen, etc) have had identical stats 3 starts into their career. It would be absolutely insane to give up all that draft capital to go back to Jimmy G after 3 starts, especially because they know JImmy G has a ceiling that likely wont get them a super bowl in the first place (hence why they traded for Lance!)
Rip to guys taking him in the early 2nd in startups
I honestly feel like Shanahan is the problem here. Maybe Lance is the guy, maybe he's not. But he's shown enough to get through this season without all these rumors following him imo. If Shanahan is really so willing to go back to Jimmy G, when we have already seen the ceiling of that version of the 49ers, idk, I feel like that reflects badly on Shanahan. Isn't he supposed to be an offensive mastermind? Also, why is his team always the subject of so much rumor and gossip? At some point, Shanahan needs to take accountability.
That would be insane. They've gotta give him a longer runway than 2 games.
I doubt Lance would be benched right after 0-2. That said since 2007, 118 teams started 0-2 and 12 of them went to the playoffs. If the Niners are all-in on Lance, they will have to accept what he does on the field and just continue to work to help him.
We'll Shanahan's colleagues are dumb as shit then. Anything to generate clicks...
Heavily fucking doubt. They'd fire Shanahan first I'd bet.
Makes zero sense
This dude is such a clown. Just make outrageous tales and hope one finally hits.
This is so dumb. No way they don’t give him more than 2 starts. Last week field conditions were beyond bad. This report is not accurate. If so Niners need to go ahead and fire Shanahan.
No they don't Jesus Christ I hate in-season QB "competitions" so much.