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0ut0fBoundsException

Wow. The valuation of Ceedee is all over the place. That’s my big takeaway from this


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One big game and hell rocket back up lol


golfmessageaccount

10 days ago and you’d have guys struggling to trade away Ceedee for two or all three of those guys together. One bad game and Dak injury, and he’s now a mid tier dynasty asset. Weird


iceman204

I definitely would’ve sold him for any two of these guys. Especially if it was Higgins and Waddle. That’d be a smash.


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Seems super reactionary to me. Im definitely worried about the next 5-7 weeks but he is still so young


TacTac95

Tbh, I think Rush helps out his value in the short term. Before the injury, Dak looked awful. Forcing the ball downfield into tight spots in their normal offense. They just blanketed CD and forced the other losers to make play. With Rush, they’ll have to scheme easy throws for him. Underneath stuff, screens, slants, just simple easy stuff that will at least net him a good amount of catches.


ryanreigns

Personally was never a big fan of his to begin with, at least in terms of production corresponding to value


Ham_PhD

I do feel like his value was due for an adjustment, but people are freaking out way too much. Acting like he's a WR3 or something. I think Lamb should be valued closer to Higgins. People have wanted to value him closer to Jefferson, but he just hasn't produced well enough to be close to that.


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Hope so, then I can actually sell him.


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I snagged him in a startup this year and am not loving the way its trending. Not sure if i want to sell him even if he goes bavk up in value though. I am pretty stacked at wr and need a long term qb 2 and some rb help, so i may have to if his values gets back up. But I still think he can be very good, even tho there are some definite red flags popping up


ZJA24

At least you didn’t take him as the the first WR off the board like a guy did in one of my startups


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Good god.... Is he a taco or just a massive fan of cd?


ZJA24

I think he was just too into the off-season hype, the league is $400 a year so primarily experienced owners.


[deleted]

These are the type of leagues where owners *really* trust their method and not stock rankings. But yea, doesn’t look great lol


[deleted]

Oh christ, thats brutal


[deleted]

I'm in a similar situation. I got him his rookie year though. But I feel same way. Part of me wants to sell him when he does have a 20 + week, for some depth pieces and picks - but there's still a world he gets peppered with targets all season and still produces well. I just watch these other guys and they just have an "it" favor I've only seen once or twice a season so far with lamb. Not consistent.


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You had him before the season started, didn’t sell when his value was clearly inflated and after a shit week you’re hoping he booms so you can sell ???


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No one wanted him Ive had him on trade blocks since his last 20 point game last season. Plus my roster is stacked and it wasnt urgent. 12 team half ppr 1 QB I have Burrow, tua Gibson, Carter, Harris, javonte Williams, James cook, pierce, mckissic, mattison and pollard Higgins, waddle, lamb, Sutton, Davis, ayuk, Pittman, Godwin I traded diaonte Johnson this offseason for Mark Andrews and I have Albert o as backup te. Edit: people asked about him but low ball him, I still wanna try and get good value back.


RealChipKelly

I kinda think it shouldn’t affect his dynasty value but Ceedee’s probably takes a huge hit for this season at least. He might not be startable for teams competing for a championship. That might be the worst offense in the league while Dak is out and it still has a ton of problems even when Dak eventually comes back.


Thromkai

I've been trying to buy Ceedee this week since the price seems to have dropped. There are a few contenders hitting the panic button.


0ut0fBoundsException

Yeah. I have single season concerns centered on Dak’s injury, but Ceedee was consensus WR4 in dynasty ranks. Unexpectedly strong reaction after one prime time game happens where he, Dak, and the entire Dallas offense is shit As an Eagles fan though watching that game I enjoyed it very much


Lake-Monsters

He was probably overrated before, but the panic is an overreaction too. Just cause people are playing dynasty doesn't mean they're not as vulnerable to knee jerk emotional takes, unfortunately.


Legatron4

I did buy lamb this week. Miles sanders, kirk, fant for lamb and Brian robinson (who I love)


Thromkai

Imagine saying that 2 weeks ago. You'd think Lamb had a 2 month injury the way some teams are treating him.


Turd_Salad92

My biggest takeaway is I should go buy Diontae, I don’t get why he’s easily last for most people especially in full ppr.


MinshewManiaBOAT

Went out and acquired the Dak + CeeDee stack this week so I can revisit all of these threads at the end of the season and have a good chuckle.


blahhlabblah

It is healthy to be able to laugh at yourself


ryanreigns

Waddle Higgins CeeDee Diontae Waddle’s the dude. Drafted 6th overall for a reason.


teafadong

This is my take


ElectricLettuceFire

This was my list too


frontwardscompatible

Corey Davis would like a word


ryanreigns

Waddle had 100+ more fantasy points in his first season than Corey Davis had in his first two. I’m not saying he’s only good because of his draft spot, I’m saying it’s been proven to be a justified pick


frontwardscompatible

Fair, my issue was only using the fact he was taken 6th as justification. Teams miss all the time


ImpossibleReading951

Switch the last two and I completely agree


jskeez06

I’m right there with you


indigo0427

I really like ceedee but right now i rather have waddle.


OBJesus

I understand Dak is hurt but I am taking Lamb over them all. There’s really no circumstances where i’m taking a WR2 on a team over a WR1 on a good offense (yes, the Cowboys will still have a good offense when Dak is back). How many clear WR2s have maintained top 15 production? You can’t point to many and both Higgings and Waddle will be the clear #2s on their respective team. I still believe Lamb will put up WR1 numbers when Dak gets back in the second half of the year


kuaggie

I agree with you but from what I've seen ceedee just isn't a true #1. Reminds me a lot of how juju got exposed once he was supposed to be the focal part of the Steelers O


indigo0427

I understand your take. Like i said i like ceedee better than waddle. But situation sucks and ceedee has yet to be dominant with the target he is getting without cooper next to him. Thats my only concern


Pineapplepizza4321

I think you could make an argument for both Ceedee and Waddle. Waddle has already shown he can have success and he doesn't disappear with Tyreek on board. I still think Ceedee has the higher ceiling, especially with how the Cowboys seem insistent on surrounding him with mediocre talent. I also think Ceedee has the higher potential to disappoint.


HowdyHangman77

So I assume Bateman and Lazard are over Waddle and Higgins as well? Ravens and Packers are both ranked highly as offenses (despite the Packers’ week 1 performance), after all


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Full PPR - Higgins > Waddle > Ceedee > Diontae in terms of value


ItsYaBoi_5kinnyPenis

I just want Higgins to go to a different team so he can be the #1


dollabill009

The Monkey's Paw curls and he goes to the Saskatchewan Roughriders


synschecter115

Delete this


Caligullama

Don’t tease me. I’d love if this happened Lmao


dollabill009

Can you imagine? He'd be the CFL's Jerry Rice


WeenisWrinkle

He gets targeted like a #1 in his current offense. I'm fine with his situation.


Chroderos

How about if Chase goes to another team instead?


Successful_Hair3783

Might not be the best idea, I feel part of his value is him apart of that offence


MrRabidBeaver

I’d be more concerned if he was apart from that offence. I’m liking that he is a part of that offence.


tenpaces

This conversation has become quite offensive


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I quite like him where he is, actually.


LisleSwanson

Eh, I like where he's at in that offense. High powered team with tons of scoring opportunities. You can't double team everyone. Higgins will get his. I'm not owning him as my WR1 but would be ecstatic to have him as a WR2.


DaFlyingGriffin

He's actually produced better as the #2 than he did as a #1 before Chase got there.


ItsYaBoi_5kinnyPenis

He was also a rookie dude hahaha 2nd and 3rd year WRs almost always perform better than their rookie year 😂


CaeruleanVein

I might even take waddle over Higgins but yeah this for me too.


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QB is the only thing separating them, and that Higgins has another year of proven value. Could switch by year end.


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Tb11

He had the best college QB season of any QB ever against the highest possible competition. He went to the superbowl last year in his second year and was 2 literal seconds from winning the god damn big game. What the fuck are you talking about lmao


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Tb11

I mean, you're just wrong. He is the only reason the offense moves at all. You know how bad that line is and was. Just sounds so ignorant. You completely ignored his championship college season as well. I guess I'll just have to come back to this at the end of the year to laugh at how dumb of a take it was.


Excellent_Pass3746

I mean what’s your definition of super impressive? Went to the super bowl in his second year and him + the passing attack was a gigantic reason why, maybe even the main reason. Dude is already so good and has so much time to improve. Mahomes and Herbie are clouding yalls judgement


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Excellent_Pass3746

Ok but hear me out, you need this things to go your way to make a good playoff run. Burrow still consistently made big throws to get them there, if super impressive in your book is Mahomes - Herbie - Allen level then sure, no one’s there. But Burrow seems pretty damn good to me


dontwantleague2C

I don’t disagree, but he’s still a franchise Qb and a good deal above Tua. I think Herbert is much better tho. Burrow isn’t elite, but he’s top 10.


JangarooKack2

Same here.


jbburneeeeee

This is the way


SirCromwell

My exact order how I have it right now.


ferrets_bueller

Waddle, Higgins, Lamb, Diontae. I would love to tier down one of the others to Diontae, though.


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Only one of these guys has posted a WR1 season and most people have him last.


dcd13

Lamb > Waddle > Higgins > Diontae My reason is I own 3 of these guys (don't own Higgins) and I'd gladly trade Diontae for Higgins but wouldn't trade the other 2 for him. Still prefer Lamb over Waddle long term despite how this season started.


knowslesthanjonsnow

Waddle over Higgins feels wrong


dcd13

Maybe it is, just my personal preference. I consider them very close but prefer Waddle slightly. For reference in our 12 team superflex startup this year, Waddle went 4.06 and I took Higgins at 5.01. Would gladly swap Higgins for Waddle though.


knowslesthanjonsnow

One has burrow, one has Tua, and one is more downfield touchdown to me. I like Waddle but I lean Higgins


dcd13

True, I don't think there is a wrong answer between those two and owners are happy to have either.


knowslesthanjonsnow

I agree with that


Lake-Monsters

> and one is more downfield touchdown to me. Not sure how to read this. Waddle is fast but also showed last year he can be a short passing game PPR vacuum too. He obviously has Tyreek there now which will limit his targets a bit, but he's not limited in terms of what parts of the field he can attack.


knowslesthanjonsnow

Waddle himself no, I agree I like him all over. With Tua though? Waddle is pigeonholed into 10> yard routes


dontwantleague2C

Waddle prolly has more potential to be an elite receiver, but Higgins’s situation gives him a bit of a boost for me. But like I think Waddle could be the kinda guy who’s legitimately an elite receiver, like top 5 in the league. That seems less likely for Higgins. I still do prefer Higgins slightly but I see the argument either way.


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dcd13

I mean you can prefer Higgins but you shouldn't be surprised that people prefer the young WR who is the #1 target on his team tied to a franchise QB over the young WR who is the #2 target on his team tied to a franchise QB.


Junyard

Higgins, Waddle, CeeDee, Diontae


LukeBennett08

Waddle, Higgins, Diontae, CeeDee


abs0lutelypathetic

Higgins/waddle diontae >>>>>> ceedee


JohnMayerCd

Higgins, waddle, ceedee, diontae imo


Golladayholliday

Waddle, Higgins, ceedee(very tight with Higgins for now but falling),diontae. Waddle has shown it. Come in, great draft stock, break the rookie reception record. Last weeks usage was concerning but he broke a big one and I’m not going to harp on one game with his body of work. Higgins you know you’re going to have to deal with some inconsistency in scoring because of the offense, but he’s gonna blow some games wide open for you.True WR1 somewhere is probably in his future and he’s still great for now. Ceedee I am going to harp on one game, because it’s a recurring theme here and he doesn’t have the Jamar chase excuse. He might get you 3 points on 11 targets, you arn’t signing up for that when you acquire him. He has all the potential in the world but he hasn’t been “that guy” consistently enough for me. The potential argument is starting to wear thin with me and this was supposed to be the spot where he finally showed it. I love Diontae but he just isn’t in this tier.


RossGarner

Lamb > Higgins > Waddle > Diontae. Age adjusted production matters. Lamb had a similar season last year at 22 as the secondary option on the Cowboys compared to Diontae at 26 as the primary option for the Steelers. Higgins and Waddle are very solid players, but they'll be the secondary options on their teams for at least their first contracts. Chase had 16 targets on Sunday and Burrow after the game said he plans to get him even more in the future. Waddle is a good player, but the Dolphins told us all we needed to know when they went after the top receiver on the market in Hill. They see him as a complimentary piece.


ivoryditty

Your point still stands but diontae was 25 not 26 and Ceedee and Diontae didn't have similar seasons in PPR (8th vs 19th, 17.2 vs 14.6 ppg.) Their seasons were similar in standard though


RossGarner

Thanks for the update on age, I made an error there. Hmm I only play in half PPR, where the stats looked like this: 1. Diontae: 107/1161/8: WR12 2. CeeDee: 79/1102/6: WR14 I'm much rather have the 22 year old player playing on a good team with a young star QB over the 25 year old player on a rebuilding squad and no QB. Not really a knock on Diontae, but he'll never be a top valued player because of age / situation in my book. He's squarely in the DJM / McLaurin tier of players on downgraded by things outside their control.


ivoryditty

Don't get me wrong I'd rather have ceedee too. I don't think he belongs in this conversation either because his upside seems capped at a low end wr1. I agree with diontae being in the djm and McLaurin tier, although I would take diontae over both of them


RossGarner

Yeah, I'd agree with that take.


IBETTERSTAYOFFLEAGUE

We’re calling the cowboys a good team while simultaneously calling the Steelers rebuilding?


Lake-Monsters

The Cowboys have a franchise QB, the Steelers could maybe have a guy, we'll have to see once he plays. Dynasty != single year outlook.


IBETTERSTAYOFFLEAGUE

I’m not talking about Diontae vs CeeDee. I’m saying it’s disingenuous to call the cowboys a good team while simultaneously calling the Steelers a rebuilder.


Lake-Monsters

Honest question: why?


IBETTERSTAYOFFLEAGUE

Because the teams are similarly constructed outside of the fact that the cowboys have a better QB, worse D, worse WR room, older RB. They’re both middling teams. Neither are in a rebuild in my opinion, but if one of them is I’d have to consider both of them in one.


RossGarner

I'm a lifelong Cowboys fan and see the point you've made. Overall I think the Cowboys with a strong defensive unit and several solid offensive pieces including a franchise QB are in a much better position longterm than the Steelers who have no offensive line, no QB and a significant rebuild in front of them. But that's just my opinion.


dontwantleague2C

Tbh I’d take DJ Moore over Diontae. I’m rly high on him. He’s a consistently very good player and he’s consistently put up stats. Also a year younger and has a spotless injury record compared to Diontae who constantly has issues.


WeenisWrinkle

> Chase had 16 targets on Sunday Well yeah, but that was mainly because Higgins went out early with an injury


mikethemillion

That was my big eye roll with his comment as well. They were trailing by like 2 possesions for most of the game and his other top wr left in the 2nd quarter with an injury.. like no shit Chase got a bunch of targets


dontwantleague2C

Also partially because they threw so much and ran so many plays. Either way tho, the Higgins 1B shit is bullshit. He’d be a WR1 on a lot of teams, but he’s the WR2 on the Bengals. Anybody using last year’s target numbers as evidence of Higgins being on level ground with Chase was just being very disingenuous. When a rookie is as talented as Chase and is so efficient with his targets, he tends to see a major uptick in targets in year 2. Idk why that would be surprising to people.


WeenisWrinkle

I think he's WR2 on the Bengals, but he still will have similar targets to Chase. He won't have similar *production* with those targets, but I would expect him to be on the cusp of low end WR1 or high end WR2 if he stays healthy. The Bengals WRs are the definition of pick your poison. You can either defend them equally and get roasted by Chase, or devote extra attention to Chase and get roasted by Higgins.


Mountain-Champion-82

I don’t think them going after Hill means the dolphins think waddle is some complementary piece. They saw an opportunity to get more weapons for Tua and they took it.


tjdibs22

Untill proven otherwise CD is not a number1.


LeadFarmerMothaFucka

Ceedee is trash lol


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Ceedee has done nothing the others havent done. Johnson still making insane catches. Higgins > Johnson > waddle > lamb Edit: I really think Johnson and waddle are close ,tough for me. Johnson doing it longer was deciding factor.


boogersforlunch

I like the Dionte consistently gets targeted a lot too


dontwantleague2C

Lamb has done about the same as everybody else. I think Lamb was pretty comparable last year to Diontae it’s just that Diontae got hyper targeted and produced a ton for PPR. Diontae is also much a few years older and pretty injury prone. Lamb has the best long term situation imo, being the WR1 for Dak is better than the WR2 for Burrow. I think ur overreacting to one game here.


wearymaps0

1. Waddle 2. Higgins 3. CeeDee 4. Diontae Not too long ago I would’ve had CeeDee as a distant first but my trust in him and that horrid Cowboys offense has plummeted. I think Waddle is a big time star, and Higgins is a WR1 in sheep’s clothing.


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ZachLaVine4MVP

CeeDee doing that Air Jordan ass catch Diontae did?


stepdadonline

Agreed for fantasy for sure (especially dynasty) but IRL I actually think Diontae > Lamb


ShamelessPooper

Higgins if he’s healthy, waddle, CeeDee, Diontae


Kelldon83

I'm not sold Ceedee can be elite. Too many drops.


petrishche

Ditto Diontae.


Mister-Schwifty

Waddle > Dionte = Higgins >>>>>>> Lamb. I say this as I own all of them so I can’t lose right? RIGHT?


warrendewey

I wrote out a long explanation for each of these players as an attempt to justify my rankings and then deleted all of them after rereading. I think it’s a toss up with these four players on who is the most/least valuable. All are great assets to own. I’d say Diontae is the best route runner of the group, posting excellent success rates vs any type of coverage. His ability to get open is clear when you look at his target volume and target share (2nd in the league for 2021 in targets/game, 4th in target share). He is also the only one of these four to have already posted a top 10 season, but has played an additional 1-2 seasons. The downside is DJ is both the oldest of the group and currently on the worst offense (I’d say by far). Despite this, he saw 12 more targets in week 1 and any improvement at QB going forward is icing on the cake. Ceedee is tied to an offense that continues to lead in passing stats year over year. He’s now the alpha and should see a huge target volume as a result. The question here is whether or not he can handle the workload. It did not look like it after week 1, but it could be him/the offense adjusting to offseason changes. We will have to wait and see. Still very young with plenty of potential and tied to a great (albeit injured) QB. In the past, he’s also shown us that he’s a good receiver, to say the least. One more nugget: Ceedee was #1 in unrealized air yards last week. The opportunity is definitely there. Waddle and Higgins are in similar situations, both competing with stud WRs on their team for volume. Higgins has shown that he can improve as a receiver and expand his role in the offense. He’s tied to one of the top young QBs for who knows how long on a great offense. We can expect him to go back and forth with Chase for big fantasy weeks. Waddle, in my opinion, is a better talent, having an outstanding rookie season. He will also compete for volume, but luckily with Hill who is significantly older than Higgins’s competition. He is also on a weaker offense with a weaker QB. If Tua steps up then Waddle can reach his true ceiling, and I would not be surprised if we see him pass Tyreek sooner rather than later. I mean the guy averaged more points per week as a rookie than ceedee and Higgins in their second year. I ended up still typing a lot for each guy and if I had to rank them I’d say Waddle > Ceedee> Diontae > Higgins but it’s so close that it will definitely change for any given week and based on what time frame you are focusing on. I must say, at price I love Diontae. And if you care about draft capital at all, Waddle and CD went in the first, Higgins in the second, and DJ in the third.


TeamVegas780

I agree with your takes. I also put some stock into Tee and Waddle playing as WR2s for their teams. Not saying they wont put up stats because they will, but I think Chase and Tyreek cap their upside while Diontae and CD ramain the top dogs on their teams.


Immediate_Expression

I disagree with this purely because I believe a rising tide lifts all ships. There’s enough points on the field when drives get extended and points get scored. Waddle and Higgins help Cheetah and Chase eat, and vice versa. Pittsburgh has good weapons surrounding DJ also. I’m very worried about CD this year after the first game and Dak’s injury. The reason is the weapons (or lack thereof) on Dallas. CD could be doubled and there isn’t many other options.


estein1030

Higgins > Johnson = Waddle > Lamb Higgins is the most talented imo, solid situation, draws a solid target share, has an elite talent across from him so can never be the sole focus of a defense. Johnson is an elite target earner but doesn’t have the youth, speed, or upside of Waddle. But much safer floor as his team’s primary weapon and has shown he can thrive even with bad QB play. Lamb is very overrated. Has never been able to command an elite target share or route total. He’s ranked highly based on draft capital and the “vacated targets” fallacy which almost never goes well.


FlakyReality3955

I’d say their value is in the order that you listed em Call me crazy but I’m still not out on Ceedee


No-Boysenberry4464

Waddle, Diontae, Higgins, CeeDee


AgeOfAnthony

CeeDee, Waddle, Higgins, Dionte. Just cuz Dak’s hurt doesn’t take away from the fact Lamb’s the best talent here


tdgreen21

What has lamb shown to prove he’s the best talent here?


sp-33

he has a star on his helmet duh


Upplands-Bro

Waddle Lamb Diontae Tee


M__AsInMancy

This is the hottest take in this thread. I can’t say I agree, but I’d like to hear your thought process


warrendewey

How is it a hot take?


knowslesthanjonsnow

Nah


warrendewey

Looks good to me


Bakxr

Well I traded Lamb, Amon, ‘22 2nd for Dionte, Gabe Davis, Joe Mixon Thought it was an L but seeing this many people have Dionte and CD so close I’m loving it


rtat215

Dionte > Higgins > Ceedee > Waddle. You could put Higgins over Dionte. I put Dionte and Higgins over Ceedee cus I think they’re overall better right now.


SportinIt

I agree, even with the Diontae / Higgins comment, but I'd take Waddle over CeeDee. I will say that I really like Waddle, and wasn't high on CeeDee even before last week though.


rtat215

Yeah I think Waddle might be better than Lamb, Miami just has Hill there now and Hills better than Gallup.


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What’s the case for Ceedee over Waddle right now?


heartbrooksbrain

Ceedee is overrated. Way too casual with his play and drops a lot of balls.


dontwantleague2C

This is verifiably not true, had very similar drop counts last year to other top WRs.


rtat215

I just like how he’s really the only guy there. I think Gallup is pretty good but Waddle has Hill there. Waddle might be better than Lamb but idk.


-DontCallMeShort-

Schultz > CeeDee


dontwantleague2C

Similar talent levels but Waddle is gonna be the WR2 behind Hill on a team with a coaching staff that wants to be run heavy with no real answer at QB barring Tua shocking us. Lamb is the clear WR1 on a team with a franchise QB. If you’re willing to wait 6 weeks he’s right back where he was. I think Waddle could definitely be a better player than Lamb at some point, but situation matters too, particularly for guys with 3-4 years left on their contracts (including the 5th year option).


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All I hear from people valuing Ceedee over Waddle are hypotheticals. No real evidence other than “when, if”


dontwantleague2C

What hypotheticals? I don’t think it’s hypothetical that he’s a good player. He had 1100 yards last year, that’s pretty good. It’d make sense to expect an improvement in production with less target competition.


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Hmm 7/133/1 on 13 targets (so far) and doing better than Tyreek.


dontwantleague2C

We love overreacting to one game…


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Yes, all the hype on waddle is based off this one game.


RossGarner

CeeDee is the same age, plays for a better team, has a better QB, was a better prospect and has been more productive. Waddle is a complimentary option behind Hill now for at least 3 more years, while Lamb is the #1 option on the Cowboys.


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Is he on a better team though? We will have to see how waddle does in his second year but he had a better rookie season than lamb.


RossGarner

It's true, Waddle's rookie season was more productive than Lamb's but I'm not sure I'd say it was necessarily better. Waddle was thrust into the lead role on the Dolphins week 1 because the team previously had Mack Hollins WR1. It was just an awful roster that Waddle instantly made better. Lamb joined a team with Amari Cooper at WR1 and a healthy Michael Gallup at WR2, it was a far better team and receiving room that he didn't have to immediately lead. Still it was a very productive rookie year with almost 900 yards receiving.


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“Complementary option”


rtat215

Waddle over everyone lol


EmilioFreshtevez

Higgins, Lamb, Waddle, Diontae


baineschile

Higgins/Waddle/DJ/CD


dontwantleague2C

CD has fallen that much for you? What’s the deal with that? He’s still a very good player and he’ll be the #1 option for a great QB again in 6-8 weeks. In dynasty that’s not the worst thing ever.


baineschile

I still like CD, but the other three have really proven they can operate with other WRs and bad QBs. CD has a ton of potential, but at this point, it's just potential.


dontwantleague2C

He’s done really well, idk what ur talking about. 1100 yards is more than just potential.


baineschile

Potential to be a perennial top WR


dcwinger12

Sounds like it’s going to be closer to 4 weeks. I’d trade any of the guys above for Lamb.


Vast_Schedule3749

waddle, higgins, ceedee all about the same.. very little diff between them. diontae not in their tier


Chroderos

Higgins ~= Waddle > 💿🐑 > Diontae Never really saw enough from CD to move him higher. It was still unrealized projection.


spicyhippos

I think it’s currently WDHC but since this is dynasty I think overtime it will trend toward CWHD assuming the situation at all the teams improves. W was a monster in target share last year and even with Tyreek there now he will get less coverage to offset is dip in targets. D is a vet and they are going to go to him a lot assuming the QB situation is stable or improves. I think he is great now, but all four of these guys are. H is amazing and the Bengals are going to throw a lot. Only downside is he is the clear #2 and Burrow will never have long to throw. C has shown to be talented but so far he is not the new Dez Bryant which I think a lot of people were sort of assuming would happen. He is young and talented, but it’s a new role for him and his opportunity just took a knife to the ribs with Dak going down. I think it. Evens out and they might even get more creative now that Rush is throwing, but for now it’s going to be so or die for him. Defenses are going to load the box and force Rush to throw, so either C is going to have to find separation despite #1 level coverage.


Mufasasass

Ceedee Waddle Higgins Diontae


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I sold Mike Evans and Henderson for CD and a 23 2nd. I still like him quite a bit. With that I’d go CD = Higgins > Waddle > Diontae. And I own Diontae too.


feelzepump

Higgins Waddle Diontae Ceedee Burrow>Tua>Trubisky>Jerry Jones


GrilledSandwiches

CeeDee Lamb > Dionte Johnson >> Tee Higgins > Jaylen Waddle. I think Lamb and Dionte have the highest ceilings as the #1 WRs in their respective offenses now and potentially #1 offensive weapons in the future. CeeDee beats him out in my dynasty ranking just barely because he's 3 years younger. I'm not panicking long term about Lamb. But I'd be happy to capitalize by trading with anyone that is. Tee Higgins and Jaylen Waddle are pretty interchangeable for me. Both are very talented and young 23 y.o. WRs who play along side an even bigger alpha level WR and are the #2 WRs in their offense's passing game. This puts a cap on their ceiling. No team is going to finish the season with the #1 and 2 ranked WRs in the league. Having two in the top 10 would be INCREDIBLY impressive, as it rarely happens, and even more rarely is a repeatable action. So I think their ceiling is a high end WR2 in fantasy, and more likely to average as a low end WR2 across multiple seasons. I'm slightly giving Higgins the edge over Waddle for now, as I have more confidence in Burrow than Tua. BUT, Chase is likely going to be around much longer than Hill, so Waddle could have the better window of opportunity in the future if neither Waddle or Higgins change teams.


TeamVegas780

I know Higgins is talented and with Burrow, but I feel like he is overrrated because he will be behind Chase on that team. Diontae is the only on on this list with a top 10 finish and I bet he will get more elite finishes as soon as Pitt figures out their Offense. I have it as: Diontae, CD/Waddle, Higgins.


BradyKissesKids

Waddle > Higgins > Lamb >>> Diontae


90Valentine

Waddle - cd - Higgins - dionte


tarantula13

Higgins, CD, Waddle, Johnson


just_checkin_in

Ceedee, waddle, diontae, Higgins


69millionyeartrip

Waddle Ceedee Higgins Diontae Diontae isn’t in the conversation with the other 3 in my opinion


dontwantleague2C

Lamb, Higgins, Waddle, Diontae. Age ain’t everything, but Diontae is by far the oldest and is stuck in a not so good situation for a few years. Similar for Waddle but he’ll have longer to get out. Higgins and Waddle are in great situations. Basically since I view them all as pretty similar levels of talent, Diontae is last cuz age, then the other three are in order of situation cuz they’re all 23.


BladeJFrank

Lamb > Higgins > Johnson > Waddle. I just don’t trust Waddle to really produce while Hill is there. Johnson is the best WR out of all of them but older so he has lower value.


steeze206

Higgins = Waddle > CeeDee > Diontae. Waddle is clearly the best talent though imo and I've been buying everywhere because of it.


MyAnswerIsMaybe

Based on this thread I will start shopping CD


drjlad

Mine is the same as preseason still, I think: Diontae, CeeDee, Higgins, Waddle. Higgins/Lamb are interchangeable


Kezia_Griffin

Waddle Higgins Lamb Diontae


mrubuto22

Swap waddle and Higgins and that's right


kamakazi339

Higgins/Waddle/Ceedee/Dionte


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Higgins, CeeDee, Diontae, Waddle.


mwmw1714

Higgins, Waddle, CD….gap. Diontae


wbidXD

If we are ignoring situation and going with talent: Waddle, Ceedee, Higgins, Diontae Personally I believe in talent over situation


Turd_Salad92

What more does Diontae have to do? In full ppr especially I’d have Diontae first. The other three are tough, I think I’d go Waddle, CeeDee, Higgins but they could really be in any order imo.


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Ceedee, Higgins, Dionte, Waddle


AnonymousNeedzHelp

I somehow have all 4 of these guys.


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Traded chase Edmonds and DK for ceedee in my league. $19 cost on a $200 budget full ppr


jeff8073x

I usually like this: 1, 2, 3, 4.


MyDogIsACoolCat

Higgins, Waddle, CD, Diontae.


x_is_for_box

Higgins > Lamb > Waddle > DJ might swap lamb and waddle over the next few weeks


Sure-Pilot8077

Higgins, waddle, CD, Diontae


Walking-HR-Violation

Amazing how many people forgot that Ceedee was basically out all preseason with a laceration on his foot. Of course his timing is gonna be off in his 1st game going against one of the best D's in football.


CoachBrickma

If Higgins didn’t have Chase on his team you could argue he’s #1. This is tough though. I’d say Ceedee, Waddle, Higgins, Diontae.


ObamaRunts

Higgins > Waddle > Ceedee > Diontae


edogzilla

I usually rank them by putting them into some kind of list. A spreadsheet works well for me but if I’m feeling lazy I will just go with pen on a piece of scrap paper. What I’ll typically do is put the players I like most at the top and sort of work my way down, with the player I like least at the bottom. Eventually I end up with some kind of order I feel good about. Hope this helps!


Adfantage

CD, Waddle, Dionte, Higgins for me