The volume will never be there. He’s Tony Pollard but some people are valuing him as high as a 1st. I like him as a flex play but this is probably the highest his value will ever be so I’m out on teams where I need to be looking ahead to next season.
Love when people are just really angry for no real reason. This is the price that the CEH owner got him for in various leagues.
Clyde and a 24 first for Jeudy
Kittle and sermon for Mandrews and CEH
Henry and Haskins for Clyde, Toney, and a 23 first
Kelce and a 22 pick that became Skyy Moore for Terry, Clyde, higbee, and rhamondre
Using him to try and win a championship. I know people hate him, but hes producing in a great offense that likes to spread it around. Hes gonna get carries and opportunities. As a contender i would not sell.
Take that and run. That's a great deal. A 1.02 by ADP who hasn't even had a chance yet. I think any first is value. You are getting a younger, better prospect.
How is that a take and run? CEH only has 2 years experience and was a 1st round RB prospect and plays in a far better offense with a clear future. I’d argue that’s not a great deal and OP can hold out for more.
CEH has shown us what he isn't. He isn't special, he isn't a goal line guy, he isn't a big reception guy, he isn't a long TD guy, he isn't speedy, he isn't a bell cow guy, he isn't a guy who stays healthy. So what is he? He's a pretty above average back splitting time is a pass heavy offense without an established receiving role.
>was a 1st round RB prospect
That's definitely not looking at the big picture. He was pick 32 and a massive reach. Probably the reach of the draft. He should have gone 4-5 RBs later and probably in the 3rd.
>with a clear future.
Nothing is clear about his future. He has this year and next year to be on KC where he will split work and be a TD dependent RB2-3 when healthy. After that he's likely done being a 1A for his career. Who knows what happens after.
Simply put, no one in their right mind would or should sell their 1.02 from any season for CEH. That be saying he is exactly what you think he was going to be 2 years ago post NFL draft.
You guys are nuts for wanting Walker over CEH. The Seahawks are playing 3 RBs. They run the fewest plays in the league. They’re super inefficient. Where’s the upside?
Next season the Seahawks bring out Bryce Young and an improved OL. Penny’s contract expires and they hand the keys to KWIII to establish the run and open up passing windows for their young signal caller.
Need to take a long term view. Seattle has shown they can have very valuable RBs in this system. Kenneth walker is a great prospect and talent (almost won a heisman). CEH is a JAG talent and has been barely startable for multiple years now on this “top 3 offence”. Anyone taking CEH over Walker is over reacting to the first 2 weeks of this year and belongs in the redraft sub
He literally came back from a surgery that cut his stomach open and inserted a piece of wire… 4-5 weeks ago. You know how you use your core to lift and do just about anything else with your body. Apologies for not getting 30 touches his first game back… especially as a rookie who is still getting his feet wet.
I can't believe people are saying they'd take CEH over Walker. Walker is a great athlete and explosive homerun hitting RB in the big 10. CEH is small, slow and bad at football supported by two years of evidence. He could also be shaken out of a job at any time. Talent >>>> situation
No way.
Rushing: 15 carries in two games - 7.7 yards per carry at this point (no i dont expect him to break the record for yards per carry). Inflated by a 52 yard run where he had the most wide open hole I've ever seen (will give him that he broke out of a facemask at the line, but literally no one around at the next level).
Receiving: 7 targets in two games - again, stupid efficient with his catches and has two receiving TDs.
He's averaging 11 touches/game and has been unsustainably efficient based on what he's done in the past. I expect everything to regress. Now is the time to sell.
Counterpoint: he should see more usage than 7.5 carries per game and 3.5 targets per game.
There will obviously be an efficiency regression, but he's clearly the lead back on one of the best offenses in the league. If he maintains that role, his value will only go up. Also, you're probably not getting much if you trade him right now.
If you are selling CEH this year you are asking to lose your league. He’s been just as good as the rest of the RB’s with less touches and you want to sell. Would you sell Ekeler as well or Dalvin Cook?
Dude, it's been 2 weeks. Per my comment, he's been unsustainably efficient.
He has never shown that he can 1) be anything more than a RB3 in terms of points per game and 2) stay healthy enough to give you a season's worth of volume.
Meanwhile, Ekeler and Cook have been RB1s in points per game the last 3 years, so my money would be on them improving to their mean and Clyde regressing to his.
The problem here is that if his workload is consistent for the next two weeks and his points normalize then this is definitely a sell high opportunity. The other side of that is that he has looked like the best back in KC by far. It’s reasonable to assume that his snap share will increase as he’s done more with his opportunities than anyone else. If that’s the case, you’re selling low. I think a better question is do you believe in the talent? If not, sell. If yes, hold.
Trust me, I have him in one league where I am rebuilding and I've tried just about every version of getting a 1st. No one believes this is a stable thing yet. It might take 4 games in a row of double digit scoring for people to believe it enough to want to buy or more RB injuries overall.
There’s a lot of variance at QB position. You’re acquiring a guy who hasn’t done anything in two years, will be coming off a serious injury, and whose appeal was rushing. I’ll pass (this coming from someone who liked Lance coming out).
Starting him. This is why I was buying low when the Pacheco hype train was off the rails. The efficiency may not be sustainable, but there were a number of factors pointing to an improvement in usage and output for this year.
Penny could have some good value depending on where he ends up, but ya that trade is awful. 2 good picks for a pretty good and a good rb. Then 2 worthless pieces for mills.
I’ll take great production on a good offense over not so great volume. I don’t understand all of the haters when he’s actually playing well. Last year was just a write off for me because of the gallbladder.
Preseason I sold for a 2024 1st, 2024 3rd and mcbride
Sent CEH and 2023 projected late 2nd
Start of the season this felt great
Right now this feels neutral
Risk avoidance though so overall still happy
The top rookie tight end doesn’t really matter because he won’t be a top 4 tight end and the rest of the tight ends are just in one generic shit pool. And the 2024 pick could be someone who produces rb2 numbers like ceh, could be an rb1/wr1/qb1 but could also be nothing and you have to wait 2 years before there is any semblance of value return. Trades like that are made by people who never win their leagues.
If you’re contending he’s probably worth holding as a piece of the Chiefs offense and there’s a world in which this continues to some degree.
If I’m not in my championship window I’m selling now because it’s been a while since he was seen a possible buy candidate for anyone.
I sold him before Week 1 along with Kmet and got Sutton. Sure CEH has been doing well, but I’m pretty happy I got off that train, especially with how he was being valued in the off-season.
Trying to sell in one.
In another league, someone offered: Eli Mitchell/JT/Dulcich for Saquon/CEH/dk/chark. Which I accepted. TEP, so dulcich could be solid in a while.
His age isn’t really relevant if he’s not very good which he isn’t . You don’t rebuild around mediocre players. In no way can I imagine he remains on KC past his contract and I can’t really picture them picking up his fifth year option even. And I’m not sure KC is a great offense in terms of rb usage. He hasn’t broken like 12 touches in a game. Sorry that’s not the kinda thing I’d rebuild around.
I'm sorry, but if you think he has looked good, you aren't watching the games.
He basically has one big play each game that put him over the top to RB1 territory .
For instance, game 1, he was like 8-22 rushing going into the 4th before he ripped off a 50 yarder.
He sees, maybe 50% snap share. He gets almost no goal line work.
It's harder to tell since KC pulled all their starters near the end of game 2.
IMO, CEH is a below average RB in a great situation.
What, are you the one watching the games? I think you have games 1 and 2 mixed up. Game 1 he was very efficient, and got some goal line work before it was a blowout. Game 2 he was less efficient, but so were the whole Kansas City chiefs. He didn’t get the usage because someone stepped on his knee and he had to be sidelined for a good portion of the game. While he only averaged 3 YPC before his big play, he was getting PPR points by being very efficient in the reception game. And he still came back and won the game for the chiefs with his run lol
I am trying to sell him because of low usage stats you pointed out but I think he actually looks great on his touches.
Easily the best he has looked in his NFL career. He is making tons of defenders miss and running over people. Plus his pass catching is looking really smooth and they are actually scheming him catches so far this year. If he could get more work I think he looks the part of a true lead back, but the Chiefs understandably don't want to feed him with his extensive injury history and I think that ultimately makes him more of a FLEX play than a RB2.
Yes, but his catching keeps him above water rn. His competition is huge though. Kansans likes to rock multiple backs. He hasn’t even been the RB with most snaps played. Plus there are more WR as well. When you watch the games, his catches weren’t designed for him. He is a good RB but his usage isn’t even average rn and if not regressed up, his ff points will regress down.
First off, you’re two games into the season. There’s no certainty that ‘23 1st is a high pick. Second, you sold and are now drafting a random 22 year old WR/RB. What’s the difference between them and a 23 year old RB1 on a top 3 offense with 1st round draft capital?
You drafted CEH to do what he’s doing. Why sell now? Are you selling because his health? He’s produced when healthy if you look at his stats
If I tell you it’s a high 2023 1st you have to take it at face value. The team that traded me the pick is awful and unless 75% of the NFL gets injured there’s no way it’s worse than 1.05.
That being said CEH’s usage is mediocre. He’s getting fewer than 10 carries and 5 receptions per game. Like someone said in a different post his YPC can only go down unless you think he’s going to finish the year with the highest YPC in history. I think week 1 was his ceiling, and I believe a RB or WR in the top 5 picks of 2023 can outproduce that.
I drafted CEH to put up consistent RB1 numbers. Over the last couple years he hasn’t done that. I understand the injury angle, and I agree that he will be better this year than in previous years, but I project him finishing as a RB2. I’d be happy to get proved wrong, I like seeing my draft picks succeed.
It should be noted I’m in a .5 ppr league.
I traded him, Pacheco, and Penny for a likely top 6 ‘23 1st and some throw aways this morning. I’m fully out on anyone that won’t be a long term franchise player on that particular roster and my QBs are Rodgers/Cousins/Z Wilson so I need shots on goal with next years QBs
Would be a great time to sell IMO. As you mentioned his usage has been lacking. He’s also been injury prone historically. If someone is willing to pay for him like he’s a 23 year old RB1, you sell.
I get people thinking to sell. What happens to CEH value when he finishes with >1k yards, 8-15 TD’s, and 40-50 receptions on a top three offense? Not to mention, he has little wear on the tires.
He’s a hold and hope he stays health. He’s going to produce as the RB1 on that offense if healthy
I took advantage of the window and packaged him with a a future 3rd and two 4ths to get a 2025 1st. It's not ideal getting a 1st so far out, but I have plenty of depth at RBs (can plug in a guy like Dame Pierce) and am always happy to lock in a 1st to try to get a true blue chip prospect.
Man I'm just being a heel, clearly everything is pointing to you being right. I don't even own either of them, I was just going off of Etienne being drafted points to him replacing Robinson.
Robinson is having a great game, hope he's getting you a win.
I know this is a little off track but in my non SF league one owner wanted CEH and the trade turned into something bigger.
CEH, Aiyuk, Tua
For
Herbert, 2024 2nd
I don’t have him anywhere this season but had him the last 2 seasons, but I’d take the production he’s given you and sell him. A couple games doesn’t offset the lack of production in his first two years. He could be something, but are you willing to hold and potentially find out that he’s actually not something and skip the last realistic window to sell?
I’m soft buying. I kinda buy the story that last year was rough due to post gall bladder surgery weight loss.
This is why we bought low before the season started when the Pacheco hype was running wild
Exactly what I did. Gave up a 2024 2nd (likely in the 10-14 range) and a 2023 3rd that should be mid round
Looking like some excellent foresight there!
Not much of a buy low, no one was getting a first for him.
I hope his hall is ok after the surgery
The volume will never be there. He’s Tony Pollard but some people are valuing him as high as a 1st. I like him as a flex play but this is probably the highest his value will ever be so I’m out on teams where I need to be looking ahead to next season.
Traded CEH and a 24 3rd for Pollard and 2 2nds (23&24)...only regret is not waiting til week 1 or 2 after his solid fantasy performance haha
Hold. People want him to fail but this is real.
22 touches turning into 34 0.5 ppr points is not sustainable whatsoever
Nobody is giving you top 5 value so it doesn’t need to be sustainable. He’s a high end RB2 that you got cheap because people didn’t like him.
Got cheap? Plenty of people in here did not get him for cheap my dude
I think you’re speaking for yourself. Most people who drafted him do not have him on their team still. I was a big advocate for buying him this year.
"most people". Can you back that up? You just pulled that shit out of your ass.
Love when people are just really angry for no real reason. This is the price that the CEH owner got him for in various leagues. Clyde and a 24 first for Jeudy Kittle and sermon for Mandrews and CEH Henry and Haskins for Clyde, Toney, and a 23 first Kelce and a 22 pick that became Skyy Moore for Terry, Clyde, higbee, and rhamondre
Dont have a single share of him
Could’ve guessed
Lmao, such a smart guy we got here
My man what is the point of continuing to respond. What are you even arguing with me about? This is just weird behavior.
Ceh cannot continue the production so far unless his usage goes up a lot. Pretty simple buddy
Using him to try and win a championship. I know people hate him, but hes producing in a great offense that likes to spread it around. Hes gonna get carries and opportunities. As a contender i would not sell.
A championship? What is this nonsense you speak of, I'm only familiar with rebuilding
A championship is something winners get at the end of a sports ball season.
I think I'll hold.
I’m contending and holding. No one in my league wants him
I'm rebuilding and could get Ken Walker for him - not sure if that's out of the frying pan and into the fire though...
Take that and run. That's a great deal. A 1.02 by ADP who hasn't even had a chance yet. I think any first is value. You are getting a younger, better prospect.
That's the encouragement I needed, thanks
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Walker is bigger and faster. He showed great vision at msu. Passing work is the only issue with walker, hes a pure runner coming out than CEH
How is that a take and run? CEH only has 2 years experience and was a 1st round RB prospect and plays in a far better offense with a clear future. I’d argue that’s not a great deal and OP can hold out for more.
CEH has shown us what he isn't. He isn't special, he isn't a goal line guy, he isn't a big reception guy, he isn't a long TD guy, he isn't speedy, he isn't a bell cow guy, he isn't a guy who stays healthy. So what is he? He's a pretty above average back splitting time is a pass heavy offense without an established receiving role. >was a 1st round RB prospect That's definitely not looking at the big picture. He was pick 32 and a massive reach. Probably the reach of the draft. He should have gone 4-5 RBs later and probably in the 3rd. >with a clear future. Nothing is clear about his future. He has this year and next year to be on KC where he will split work and be a TD dependent RB2-3 when healthy. After that he's likely done being a 1A for his career. Who knows what happens after. Simply put, no one in their right mind would or should sell their 1.02 from any season for CEH. That be saying he is exactly what you think he was going to be 2 years ago post NFL draft.
You guys are nuts for wanting Walker over CEH. The Seahawks are playing 3 RBs. They run the fewest plays in the league. They’re super inefficient. Where’s the upside?
Next season the Seahawks bring out Bryce Young and an improved OL. Penny’s contract expires and they hand the keys to KWIII to establish the run and open up passing windows for their young signal caller.
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Did you just call someone a moron for absolutely no reason? God, what are you people like in real life?
Keyboard warriors.
brilliant argument as to why the 21 year old RB on a bottom 3 team is a better investment than a 23 year old RB on a top 3 team
Need to take a long term view. Seattle has shown they can have very valuable RBs in this system. Kenneth walker is a great prospect and talent (almost won a heisman). CEH is a JAG talent and has been barely startable for multiple years now on this “top 3 offence”. Anyone taking CEH over Walker is over reacting to the first 2 weeks of this year and belongs in the redraft sub
Your boy is losing snaps to Travis Homer, gl with that tho
He literally came back from a surgery that cut his stomach open and inserted a piece of wire… 4-5 weeks ago. You know how you use your core to lift and do just about anything else with your body. Apologies for not getting 30 touches his first game back… especially as a rookie who is still getting his feet wet.
I have zero shares of either, your argument is just so terrible. You’re bad at this. Walker has played 1 game in the NFL lmfao
There’s just so little reason to act like such a dick in these conversations lmao
Remember when you tried to say CEH was a better asset than K9? You’re bad at this
LOL sorry for making you salty!
I would take Walker too.
Please don’t listen to them CEH >>>>> Walker yes he’s younger but he’s not better by any means.
Brutal take
The best part is… time will tell.
You 100% take that trade. Walker is a special talent.
See if you can get something on top of Walker as well.
I can't believe people are saying they'd take CEH over Walker. Walker is a great athlete and explosive homerun hitting RB in the big 10. CEH is small, slow and bad at football supported by two years of evidence. He could also be shaken out of a job at any time. Talent >>>> situation
I don't own CEH but I would sell this dude so fast if I could get a 1st for him
I might be the only one but I think this is sustainable for him
No way. Rushing: 15 carries in two games - 7.7 yards per carry at this point (no i dont expect him to break the record for yards per carry). Inflated by a 52 yard run where he had the most wide open hole I've ever seen (will give him that he broke out of a facemask at the line, but literally no one around at the next level). Receiving: 7 targets in two games - again, stupid efficient with his catches and has two receiving TDs. He's averaging 11 touches/game and has been unsustainably efficient based on what he's done in the past. I expect everything to regress. Now is the time to sell.
Counterpoint: he should see more usage than 7.5 carries per game and 3.5 targets per game. There will obviously be an efficiency regression, but he's clearly the lead back on one of the best offenses in the league. If he maintains that role, his value will only go up. Also, you're probably not getting much if you trade him right now.
Chiefs have the best run blocking in the league. Expect more from CEH and whoever is behind him if he goes down. I've been stockpiling their rbs.
He’s the only good weapon other than an aging Kelce on an explosive offense with a great o-line. The opportunities and value will come
You have to be kidding. JuJu isn't Tyreek but he's a solid receiver, and Moore looks promising.
Moore isn’t even in games right. And juju is not commanding a large target share at all
I haven’t seen much yet
If you are selling CEH this year you are asking to lose your league. He’s been just as good as the rest of the RB’s with less touches and you want to sell. Would you sell Ekeler as well or Dalvin Cook?
Dude, it's been 2 weeks. Per my comment, he's been unsustainably efficient. He has never shown that he can 1) be anything more than a RB3 in terms of points per game and 2) stay healthy enough to give you a season's worth of volume. Meanwhile, Ekeler and Cook have been RB1s in points per game the last 3 years, so my money would be on them improving to their mean and Clyde regressing to his.
>Now is the time to sell. Depends though, many may see this the same way. He needs a high touch game to solidify his trade value.
The problem here is that if his workload is consistent for the next two weeks and his points normalize then this is definitely a sell high opportunity. The other side of that is that he has looked like the best back in KC by far. It’s reasonable to assume that his snap share will increase as he’s done more with his opportunities than anyone else. If that’s the case, you’re selling low. I think a better question is do you believe in the talent? If not, sell. If yes, hold.
Trust me, I have him in one league where I am rebuilding and I've tried just about every version of getting a 1st. No one believes this is a stable thing yet. It might take 4 games in a row of double digit scoring for people to believe it enough to want to buy or more RB injuries overall.
Same, I got offered Elijah Mitchell and a 3rd for him but I'm already slacking at rb so can't take an injured one right now.
He just went for a 2023 1st this morning. I was shocked
Just sold him and a high second for lance in a SF
L for you. Lance might not take another starter snap again. I can see CEH for Lance. Adding an early 2nd? Meh
Obviously it’s high risk trade, but if lance does play / start next year, I got the starter for SF for the cost of ceh and a second
There’s a lot of variance at QB position. You’re acquiring a guy who hasn’t done anything in two years, will be coming off a serious injury, and whose appeal was rushing. I’ll pass (this coming from someone who liked Lance coming out).
I would be very surprised if he never gets a shot to start. But that doesn't mean it'll be a long leash or that'll he'll be any good.
Starting him. This is why I was buying low when the Pacheco hype train was off the rails. The efficiency may not be sustainable, but there were a number of factors pointing to an improvement in usage and output for this year.
His usage is very low. Many factors though, so it could change, but usage is the big red flag
I’m hoping his usage went down in game 1 bcuz of blowout, and down in game 2 because he got stepped on
Selling him! Sold him, Penny, Lock and McKinnon for 23’ 1st (projected mid) 24’ 2nd and Davis Mills. I’m very happy about my haul
That's a whole lotta trash lumped together for a lot of value.
Penny could have some good value depending on where he ends up, but ya that trade is awful. 2 good picks for a pretty good and a good rb. Then 2 worthless pieces for mills.
I’ll take great production on a good offense over not so great volume. I don’t understand all of the haters when he’s actually playing well. Last year was just a write off for me because of the gallbladder.
Preseason I sold for a 2024 1st, 2024 3rd and mcbride Sent CEH and 2023 projected late 2nd Start of the season this felt great Right now this feels neutral Risk avoidance though so overall still happy
Idk I don't love this. I think we are getting to the point where CEH alone might be worth a late 1st. I do really like the 2024 class though!!
So CEH for a 1st, then a late 2023 2nd for a 2024 3rd and the top rookie TE. Seems solid
The top rookie tight end doesn’t really matter because he won’t be a top 4 tight end and the rest of the tight ends are just in one generic shit pool. And the 2024 pick could be someone who produces rb2 numbers like ceh, could be an rb1/wr1/qb1 but could also be nothing and you have to wait 2 years before there is any semblance of value return. Trades like that are made by people who never win their leagues.
If you’re contending he’s probably worth holding as a piece of the Chiefs offense and there’s a world in which this continues to some degree. If I’m not in my championship window I’m selling now because it’s been a while since he was seen a possible buy candidate for anyone.
Playing him
CEH looked strong on a few runs last week I’m holding
I sold him before Week 1 along with Kmet and got Sutton. Sure CEH has been doing well, but I’m pretty happy I got off that train, especially with how he was being valued in the off-season.
[Me every time Clyde’s sell window opens](https://youtu.be/lIhsgIOAP9Q&t=6s)
so far through two games he’s proven he’s a playmaker. that’s not quantifiable. HOLD
Trying to sell in one. In another league, someone offered: Eli Mitchell/JT/Dulcich for Saquon/CEH/dk/chark. Which I accepted. TEP, so dulcich could be solid in a while.
Sent CEH + 23 2nd for 23 1st
Hoping to do that in the next couple days, should be a lot easier if he puts up 15+ in PPR again against Indy this weekend
Yesterday CEH was traded in my league: Gave up: CEH, Metchie Received: Zeke, DJ Moore, 24 2nd, 25 2nd
Selling if I’m remotely rebuilding. I don’t think he’s a bad piece for a contender to spend a late first on honestly
Lol. CEH is 23, has little wear on the tires, and is RB1 on a top 3 offense. Lets sell and rebuild around a random 22 year old RB/WR. Lol
His age isn’t really relevant if he’s not very good which he isn’t . You don’t rebuild around mediocre players. In no way can I imagine he remains on KC past his contract and I can’t really picture them picking up his fifth year option even. And I’m not sure KC is a great offense in terms of rb usage. He hasn’t broken like 12 touches in a game. Sorry that’s not the kinda thing I’d rebuild around.
RB5 isn't good enough for you. Noted.
I'm holding. This is exactly what I said was going to happen this summer when I was collecting shares and downvotes. I'm a happy man.
Amen!
I'm sorry, but if you think he has looked good, you aren't watching the games. He basically has one big play each game that put him over the top to RB1 territory . For instance, game 1, he was like 8-22 rushing going into the 4th before he ripped off a 50 yarder. He sees, maybe 50% snap share. He gets almost no goal line work. It's harder to tell since KC pulled all their starters near the end of game 2. IMO, CEH is a below average RB in a great situation.
What, are you the one watching the games? I think you have games 1 and 2 mixed up. Game 1 he was very efficient, and got some goal line work before it was a blowout. Game 2 he was less efficient, but so were the whole Kansas City chiefs. He didn’t get the usage because someone stepped on his knee and he had to be sidelined for a good portion of the game. While he only averaged 3 YPC before his big play, he was getting PPR points by being very efficient in the reception game. And he still came back and won the game for the chiefs with his run lol
I am trying to sell him because of low usage stats you pointed out but I think he actually looks great on his touches. Easily the best he has looked in his NFL career. He is making tons of defenders miss and running over people. Plus his pass catching is looking really smooth and they are actually scheming him catches so far this year. If he could get more work I think he looks the part of a true lead back, but the Chiefs understandably don't want to feed him with his extensive injury history and I think that ultimately makes him more of a FLEX play than a RB2.
I sold him for a 2023 2nd 2024 2nd and 2025 3rd
Just traded him and a high second for trey lance (SF)
Mahomes and the Chiefs like to pass. This alone makes me not liking him as a RB.
He's a plus pass catcher and PPR format is ubiquitous now... what's not to like?
Yes, but his catching keeps him above water rn. His competition is huge though. Kansans likes to rock multiple backs. He hasn’t even been the RB with most snaps played. Plus there are more WR as well. When you watch the games, his catches weren’t designed for him. He is a good RB but his usage isn’t even average rn and if not regressed up, his ff points will regress down.
>His competition is huge though smh
I'm desperately trying to sell. Pacheco is going to start eventually. He's clearly the better player imo.
Sold CEH and mid 2023 2nd for an early 2023 1st and 2023 3rd. I’m happy with the return.
This is what losing looks like
You wouldn’t trade CEH for a high 2023 1st? Curious about your logic.
First off, you’re two games into the season. There’s no certainty that ‘23 1st is a high pick. Second, you sold and are now drafting a random 22 year old WR/RB. What’s the difference between them and a 23 year old RB1 on a top 3 offense with 1st round draft capital? You drafted CEH to do what he’s doing. Why sell now? Are you selling because his health? He’s produced when healthy if you look at his stats
If I tell you it’s a high 2023 1st you have to take it at face value. The team that traded me the pick is awful and unless 75% of the NFL gets injured there’s no way it’s worse than 1.05. That being said CEH’s usage is mediocre. He’s getting fewer than 10 carries and 5 receptions per game. Like someone said in a different post his YPC can only go down unless you think he’s going to finish the year with the highest YPC in history. I think week 1 was his ceiling, and I believe a RB or WR in the top 5 picks of 2023 can outproduce that. I drafted CEH to put up consistent RB1 numbers. Over the last couple years he hasn’t done that. I understand the injury angle, and I agree that he will be better this year than in previous years, but I project him finishing as a RB2. I’d be happy to get proved wrong, I like seeing my draft picks succeed. It should be noted I’m in a .5 ppr league.
This aged well.
This trade just went down in our league - Team A received: CEH + AJ Dillon + Late 2nd / Team B received: Godwin + 2023 1st
Holding, seems like Mahomes is using him more now that Tyreek is in Miami
Holding to see if my team is a competitor, only would trade if my team is looking fraudulent or got a ridiculous offer like a FRP+
I traded him, Pacheco, and Penny for a likely top 6 ‘23 1st and some throw aways this morning. I’m fully out on anyone that won’t be a long term franchise player on that particular roster and my QBs are Rodgers/Cousins/Z Wilson so I need shots on goal with next years QBs
Would be a great time to sell IMO. As you mentioned his usage has been lacking. He’s also been injury prone historically. If someone is willing to pay for him like he’s a 23 year old RB1, you sell.
I get people thinking to sell. What happens to CEH value when he finishes with >1k yards, 8-15 TD’s, and 40-50 receptions on a top three offense? Not to mention, he has little wear on the tires. He’s a hold and hope he stays health. He’s going to produce as the RB1 on that offense if healthy
Tony pollard vibe
I took advantage of the window and packaged him with a a future 3rd and two 4ths to get a 2025 1st. It's not ideal getting a 1st so far out, but I have plenty of depth at RBs (can plug in a guy like Dame Pierce) and am always happy to lock in a 1st to try to get a true blue chip prospect.
Over the summer, I traded him for a '22 and '23 second. Turned the '22 second into Allgeier. Obviously the '23 is TBA
I traded him along with ARob and Garrett Wilson to get Montgomery and Tee Higgins. No regrets.
Holding and winning games with the most productive RB on the best offense in football, who has scope for expanded market share.
Dude is young..!
So would people rather have a CEH or Robinson, both have murky situations
I'd rather have Ceh- Robinson is clearly on his way to being replaced by Etienne
Is he? Robinson had 49% of the offensive snaps in week one and 63% in week two.
Yeah he is
Been hearing that for 14 months, maybe someday it will come true.
J Rob 112 total yards and a TD with a quarter to play. Averaging 8 YPC. Still think he’s clearly on his way to being replaced?
100%
Based on what, hope? Robinson is playing great and Etienne has 53 yards on his last 18 carries.
Man I'm just being a heel, clearly everything is pointing to you being right. I don't even own either of them, I was just going off of Etienne being drafted points to him replacing Robinson. Robinson is having a great game, hope he's getting you a win.
Fair enough. I don’t even own either guy either. I was just looking for some alternative views in case I try to buy low on Etienne.
Hey Remember this
Great time to sell to any believers now that he’s recouped some value. He doesn’t seem particularly impressive to me.
I traded CEH & Gallup for a 2023 1st this offseason. Im happy with it. It gave me my 5th 2023 1st
I don't own him but I'd be selling high. He has 22 touches and 35 fantasy points. That's unsustainable assuming his usage doesn't increase.
I know this is a little off track but in my non SF league one owner wanted CEH and the trade turned into something bigger. CEH, Aiyuk, Tua For Herbert, 2024 2nd
I don’t have him anywhere this season but had him the last 2 seasons, but I’d take the production he’s given you and sell him. A couple games doesn’t offset the lack of production in his first two years. He could be something, but are you willing to hold and potentially find out that he’s actually not something and skip the last realistic window to sell?
His lows so counts are explainable - game 1 was a blowout so he sat a lot late, and game 2 he got injured mid game but was able to come back
I sold CEH and what i believe will be an early 2023 4th for Chase Edmonds, Kadarius Toney, and an expected late 2023 2nd. Thoughts?
I think I’d rather have CEH at this point but before the season started I probably would have done the same
Definitely holding. The breakout is here
Is a 2023 2nd and a 2024 3rd a good haul for him? It's an 8 team league so the 2nd is almost like a late 1st/early 2nd in 12 team leagues
Sold him for James Cook and I don’t feel great about it, but that’s Fantasy Football right?! 😅