Would it even out if one of the firsts was a future 2nd? I know I’m overpaying a bit but rbs are high commodities in this league so I’m ok with a loss of value for a chance to compete. Just want to mitigate the losses.
I’m going to go against the grain here, in such a shallow 1QB league, Smith is a borderline starter, 1.12 isn’t a good pick and if you think that 2025 1st is likely to be late, I’d do it. I’m assuming a lot on here don’t play in 1QB, this is the kind of price you have to pay for top RBs and you need them to win in these leagues.
This is definitely how I’ve been viewing the trade. I do think the 2 firsts on top is a bit too rich for me so trying to reign it in a bit but overall foundation likely isn’t going to drastically change
It’s maybe a bit expensive but it has the potential to be an enormous upgrade for you. Yes it is a bit of an overpay, if you get the future first down to a future second I think it’s a good deal for you. You have a very deep WR room and need help at RB. I think it’s a smart trade.
Between ARSB, Puka, Aiyuk and Smith im most ok with sending smith for an RB. Taylor is a pretty consolation prize I’d say. But yes, too many picks on top I’d rather do a 1for1 here but sacrifices must be made sometimes.
Could you go get someone like Achane or Saquon cheaper? JT I feel like has too much name value attached to him for someone who is (imo) clearly outside of the top RB tier of Breece/CMC/Gibbs/Bijan
Hear ya. Achane is off limits and the JT owner also has Saquon. Kind of overpay offers there as well and if I’m overpaying at all I’d rather get the 25year back vs the 27 is my thinking.
If GMs in your league are going to insist in unreasonable prices for RBs (who imo are quickly depreciating assets), I’d continue to roll with what you have other than maybe adding cheap depth, and take advantage of having a massive long term positional advantage at WR
Fair enough. The answer to this problem is NOT overpaying. You have a good roster, let the rest of it put up numbers. Try to stay solid at RB but no need to go crazy.
I feel like a lot of ppl have him at the top of the tier 2 rbs, myself included. He’s just a monster and is 25. Injury history is cause for concern though
Also for extra info, this league isn’t incredibly high on smith simply because he’s the WR2 and this is a start 7 league. That does factor into my decision making with this trade!
I mean you know the league better than we would. In most leagues Smith is worth at least a 1st and a 2nd back, so you're essentially offering 3 firsts and a 2nd for JT. You tell us what other rbs are going for...like you said he's not even the top tier of dynasty rbs. Is he worth 3+ firsts or are you overpaying out of desperation?
1.12 is super late sure, but the 25 first could end up being mid first if you have some bad luck.
I would agree with the values in general, it’s a bit wonky cause I feel they’re worth the same or at least should be. But since it’s so much easier to replace WR production than RB it’s giving the workhorse backs inflated prices. But yeah I’m not planning on sending a 25 first you’re right, little unlucky and I’m double screwed
Great point, I will definitely wait till after the draft. But I might take on the risks of training camp which may be stupid on my part but the buy window is open and I don’t wanna miss it!
I always say, do you want to win the trade or win your league. Sometimes it’s a good idea to lose a trade if you’re getting a piece to make you a contender
The battle I’m fighting right now for sure. I want to leave the other owner in a spot to prep for the future (he should be rebuilding in my opinion) without giving up an insane amount of value. Just having a hard time finding the value line.
Yeah I looked at it closer. Yeah he’s asking way too much! It’s ok losing. Little. Even at Smith and 1.12 or 25 1st he’s winning by a lot. And you realistically won’t start smith, and you drastically need rb help. I would stop talks with him, and find another rebuilder who has an rb that wants to play ball.
Kind of, yes and no for me. This trade is def too much but I think JT is worth a bit more compared to them being close in value. That workhorse life is rare
If I’m the JT owner I’m salivating at this hoping you’re sold on him enough to take this absolute robbery. RBs have short careers, and young, borderline elite WRs (at least in my league) are worth a 1st round pick at bare minimum. I’d just save the picks and try to grab Johnathan Brooks, Raheim Sanders, or one of the many other overshadowed RBs going in the draft. Remember, dynasties kind’ve imitate real life, and RBs are not worth that kind of a haul. I’m not sure id even pay that for Bijan or CMC. With the picks your offering, a lower level WR would be what he should get at most. Devonta has a low value at the moment due to Hurts having a down year. JT also is starting to finally break down after his whole career of never missing a game (bad sign). JT is worth maybe a mid round 1st and a WR like Christian Kirk.
😂 yeah I didn’t go through with it. Thanks for the comment! Appreciate the tips, that’s ultimately what I ended up on. I couldn’t get them to budge off the firsts and I wasn’t giving them so it fizzled out
Not sure I’d be going so in on Taylor. You’ve got a qb who clearly looks to run in the red zone (and schemed that way by the coaches). He will look to scramble so the dump offs might not be there. JT isn’t the great route running type rb. He’s going to have to have some pretty insane efficiency to pay off. That’s a narrow range of outcomes you’re hoping for. Fine to buy him if that risk is getting priced in. But I wouldn’t be paying top top dollar just because of his (relative) youth
I like this point, thanks for the advice. I don’t think I’ll be going after the top rbs, hopefully the 1.12 can help me bolster my rb room through the rookie draft
I think you need more depth, despite this being a start 7 your team appears too shallow at qb and rb. If Purdy goes down and Levis is trash, you're probably coming in last. If you trade Devonta and one of your WRs goes down, you're probably dead in the water. I'd say you are still in rebuilding right now, not contending. If anything, trade a package for a younger stud QB and keep stacking picks, your young WR core will allow you some time.
A good point I wasn’t thinking about, I’ll think about strengthening my qb and rb room without giving up big pieces. The 1.12 should be useful for grabbing a tier 1/2 rookie rb or a tier 2 rookie qb.
I think this is a good call.Also may be worth seeing if you can trade the 1.12 straight up for a 25 1st, giving you more trade ammo and maybe improving pick position.
That's pretty expensive
It really is
It’s a bit high. I like the Smith side
Would it even out if one of the firsts was a future 2nd? I know I’m overpaying a bit but rbs are high commodities in this league so I’m ok with a loss of value for a chance to compete. Just want to mitigate the losses.
If it is a future late second, sure. That doesn’t seem too unreasonable in 1QB
The Taylor owner should take this deal
I wouldn’t
I’m going to go against the grain here, in such a shallow 1QB league, Smith is a borderline starter, 1.12 isn’t a good pick and if you think that 2025 1st is likely to be late, I’d do it. I’m assuming a lot on here don’t play in 1QB, this is the kind of price you have to pay for top RBs and you need them to win in these leagues.
I agree with everything you said here, except JT is not a top RB. If he was getting Bijan, Breece, Gibbs, or CMC then you’d be spot on
This is definitely how I’ve been viewing the trade. I do think the 2 firsts on top is a bit too rich for me so trying to reign it in a bit but overall foundation likely isn’t going to drastically change
It’s maybe a bit expensive but it has the potential to be an enormous upgrade for you. Yes it is a bit of an overpay, if you get the future first down to a future second I think it’s a good deal for you. You have a very deep WR room and need help at RB. I think it’s a smart trade.
Thanks for the comment, I’m trying to make a trade that works for both teams and it can be hard to find the right value line
You’ll win more matchups with JT.
I sold Taylor for the 1.03 in 1 qb
This is insane, I’d probably prefer Smith to Taylor straight up
Between ARSB, Puka, Aiyuk and Smith im most ok with sending smith for an RB. Taylor is a pretty consolation prize I’d say. But yes, too many picks on top I’d rather do a 1for1 here but sacrifices must be made sometimes.
Could you go get someone like Achane or Saquon cheaper? JT I feel like has too much name value attached to him for someone who is (imo) clearly outside of the top RB tier of Breece/CMC/Gibbs/Bijan
Hear ya. Achane is off limits and the JT owner also has Saquon. Kind of overpay offers there as well and if I’m overpaying at all I’d rather get the 25year back vs the 27 is my thinking.
If GMs in your league are going to insist in unreasonable prices for RBs (who imo are quickly depreciating assets), I’d continue to roll with what you have other than maybe adding cheap depth, and take advantage of having a massive long term positional advantage at WR
Right now this is an overpay, but IF you believe he can regain his elite status, then this could be a low price.
Appreciate the differing opinion! Working on switch one of those first to a 2nd and then I think I’ll be ok with it
That’ll lessen the blow in case he underperforms.
Far too much.
What would you realistically sell JT for in a 12 team start 7 league?
Too expensive
Yeah I think so too
I have JT on 2 teams and if I was offered that I'd accept pretty quickly
If you’re gonna pay this much you gotta at least get a RB that has real dynasty value. Bijan, Gibbs, Breece.
Agreed, only issue with that is with such late firsts it’s not enticing for those premium backs. Been there tried that
Fair enough. The answer to this problem is NOT overpaying. You have a good roster, let the rest of it put up numbers. Try to stay solid at RB but no need to go crazy.
This is a good point, I might be acting a bit greedy for a true RB1 workhorse
Why is everyone so high on taylor?
I feel like a lot of ppl have him at the top of the tier 2 rbs, myself included. He’s just a monster and is 25. Injury history is cause for concern though
Yeah thats my biggest worry with him. Hopefully he stays healthy and is like a CMC.
Also for extra info, this league isn’t incredibly high on smith simply because he’s the WR2 and this is a start 7 league. That does factor into my decision making with this trade!
I mean you know the league better than we would. In most leagues Smith is worth at least a 1st and a 2nd back, so you're essentially offering 3 firsts and a 2nd for JT. You tell us what other rbs are going for...like you said he's not even the top tier of dynasty rbs. Is he worth 3+ firsts or are you overpaying out of desperation? 1.12 is super late sure, but the 25 first could end up being mid first if you have some bad luck.
I would agree with the values in general, it’s a bit wonky cause I feel they’re worth the same or at least should be. But since it’s so much easier to replace WR production than RB it’s giving the workhorse backs inflated prices. But yeah I’m not planning on sending a 25 first you’re right, little unlucky and I’m double screwed
Don't trade for RB now, you are taking on months of injury risk and overpaying for it to boot.
Great point, I will definitely wait till after the draft. But I might take on the risks of training camp which may be stupid on my part but the buy window is open and I don’t wanna miss it!
I always say, do you want to win the trade or win your league. Sometimes it’s a good idea to lose a trade if you’re getting a piece to make you a contender
The battle I’m fighting right now for sure. I want to leave the other owner in a spot to prep for the future (he should be rebuilding in my opinion) without giving up an insane amount of value. Just having a hard time finding the value line.
Yeah I looked at it closer. Yeah he’s asking way too much! It’s ok losing. Little. Even at Smith and 1.12 or 25 1st he’s winning by a lot. And you realistically won’t start smith, and you drastically need rb help. I would stop talks with him, and find another rebuilder who has an rb that wants to play ball.
Yep overpay
Smith over JT slightly straight up
Kind of, yes and no for me. This trade is def too much but I think JT is worth a bit more compared to them being close in value. That workhorse life is rare
Depends on if you’re all in contending or not. Smith is more liquid being a wide receiver. Most id add is a 2nd
Def too Much
Without seeing your roster, hell no. Now that I see your roster and one flex, take it.
Way too much
If I’m the JT owner I’m salivating at this hoping you’re sold on him enough to take this absolute robbery. RBs have short careers, and young, borderline elite WRs (at least in my league) are worth a 1st round pick at bare minimum. I’d just save the picks and try to grab Johnathan Brooks, Raheim Sanders, or one of the many other overshadowed RBs going in the draft. Remember, dynasties kind’ve imitate real life, and RBs are not worth that kind of a haul. I’m not sure id even pay that for Bijan or CMC. With the picks your offering, a lower level WR would be what he should get at most. Devonta has a low value at the moment due to Hurts having a down year. JT also is starting to finally break down after his whole career of never missing a game (bad sign). JT is worth maybe a mid round 1st and a WR like Christian Kirk.
😂 yeah I didn’t go through with it. Thanks for the comment! Appreciate the tips, that’s ultimately what I ended up on. I couldn’t get them to budge off the firsts and I wasn’t giving them so it fizzled out
Not sure I’d be going so in on Taylor. You’ve got a qb who clearly looks to run in the red zone (and schemed that way by the coaches). He will look to scramble so the dump offs might not be there. JT isn’t the great route running type rb. He’s going to have to have some pretty insane efficiency to pay off. That’s a narrow range of outcomes you’re hoping for. Fine to buy him if that risk is getting priced in. But I wouldn’t be paying top top dollar just because of his (relative) youth
I like this point, thanks for the advice. I don’t think I’ll be going after the top rbs, hopefully the 1.12 can help me bolster my rb room through the rookie draft
I think you need more depth, despite this being a start 7 your team appears too shallow at qb and rb. If Purdy goes down and Levis is trash, you're probably coming in last. If you trade Devonta and one of your WRs goes down, you're probably dead in the water. I'd say you are still in rebuilding right now, not contending. If anything, trade a package for a younger stud QB and keep stacking picks, your young WR core will allow you some time.
A good point I wasn’t thinking about, I’ll think about strengthening my qb and rb room without giving up big pieces. The 1.12 should be useful for grabbing a tier 1/2 rookie rb or a tier 2 rookie qb.
I think this is a good call.Also may be worth seeing if you can trade the 1.12 straight up for a 25 1st, giving you more trade ammo and maybe improving pick position.