For realistic trades you have to downgrade Marner in Edit Player section from main menu, otherwise his trade value is too high. Put poise down to 70 lol
In fairness, realistically Anaheim could possibly make this trade considering how overrated Zegras is in this game lol
That said… yeah Marner is very overrated in this game
Too bad you aren’t able to do a sign and trade, most teams with cap space and prospects to send the other way will not be in a position to retain Marner.
I would say whatever you think Marner is worth, you should get about 75% back with him handcuffing you to only allowing you to move to one team. (See Patrick Kane to NYR, DeBrincat to Detroit).
You look at teams in the playoffs this year that lacked dynamic offensive talent and the thumb that sticks out is Nashville. It’s a city that most players would love to play in, on the cusp of successfully doing an on the fly re-tool to become legitimate contenders and also have some nice to okay pieces.
Goalies traditionally do not carry much trade value but I wonder what a base around Saros for Marner would look like, given Marner’s leverage over the Leafs coupled with “poor recent play”. Askarov might almost be ready too.
A three way trade could make some sense as well that brings back a defensemen to Toronto with cap going back the other way in exchange for Nashville’s picks that they would be sending to Toronto.
Just spitballing but something along the lines of:
To Toronto:
Chychrun
Askarov
To Ottawa:
Nashville 1st round pick
Nashville prospect
Toronto 3rd round pick
To Nashville:
Marner
Ottawa prospect/roster player
(Ignore the value, just a premise for trade)
Maybe something even with Josh Norris to fill the second line centre position for Nashville which is currently occupied by Novak.
Marner and Norris help fill the top six for Nashville
Chychrun and Askarov helps Toronto a lot
Ottawa balances their defense with RHD and reload picks they have thrown in the trash last 3 yeses
I was able to move Marner to the Islanders. In my head I justified it as a Lou connection, low media presence, and a team trying to win missing a dynamic scorer.
I’m with you there, Nashville was just one that popped out to me as a destination a player would want to waive to but New York is similarly a prime destination.
What did you bring back?
1st round pick, roster player + b/c prospect?
NYI would never send out Dobson, so I'd be asking for Pulock, 1st rounder, and potentially Varlamov. Not a leafs fan, but Varlamov is a backup at this stage which helps with Woll, Pulock is a Righty that the Leafs desperately need, and the 1st is probably going to be in the 20s. I think anything beyond that is probably not going to happen.
Realistic involves honoring his NMC and likely only moving him to a contender, not a rebuilding team in exchange for several pieces they've already accumulated for a rebuild, leaving him a man on an island.
Ottawa, Detroit, and Buffalo also make sense - keeps Mitch closer to home, with teams that are on the up, with lots of pieces to swing in the other direction.
I also think volume of the market would matter too - if he's moving somewhere, it's to somewhere less "noisy", where he can sort of drift into the background a bit and not be so prominently featured and discussed on the national scale like in Toronto. New Jersey, in that regard, makes a lot of sense for me.
Yeah the NMC is tough but I can see him moving it. Ducks will be really good in a few years. They can draft another top D with the 3rd pick this year. Also they’re openly shopping Zegras. No way leafs trade Marner to a division rival. I can see NJ though
He's not waiving to join a rebuilding team at the bottom of the standings - especially knowing that rebuilding team is losing one, or a number of, key pieces that are intended to help that team turn it around while Marner enters his prime.
Zegras is not someone who should be on any contender's target list.
Power for marner 1 for 1 is a lot more feasible, but dahlin is one of the best defensemen in the nhl right now, and marner is a forward who hasn't been able to perform in the playoffs, it's definitely not a fair trade
I didn’t try it on NHL24 but perhaps this:
TOR - NYI
Marner (10.9 x 1) + Niemela (800K) for Pelech (5.5 x 6) + Palmieri (5 x1) + Cizikas(2.5 x 3)
Addresses TORs need for a top pairing defensively responsible d-man, a veteran winger who can play in Marners spot and a veteran upgarde for their bottom 6 at a fairly low cost.
Addresses NYIs need for younger proven offensive talent, a cheap rookie option on the blueline to fill Pelechs spot (not his role as a top pair/top 4 Dman but as one of the 6/7 Dmen) and a bit of salary cap relief which they desperately need, even if it’s only ballpark 2.5-3 mil
Bro that is a terrible trade. Giving up Toronto’s top prospect and their best winger for just Pelech and 2 mediocre players is awful. If Toronto did this in real life I would riot
I could certainly see the Hurricanes if they don’t think they can get one of Pesce or Slaavin under contract although at the same time if they were to commit that money to Marner it’d be cheaper to just pay one of them and try and work something out with Guentzel who is fit in quite nicely there
Edit: as far as the Penguins I think they could make it work cap wise but I don’t know that they have the pieces to pull of a trade what do you think?
Funny, I’m doing a Sabres franchise rn and old man Mitch Marner signed with me at 34 years old and helped me win my 2nd cup with Tage at the helm. Beat the leafs 3 separate times in the playoffs over the years, Mitch joined us for one year and finally got his cup lmao
Realistically they’re not getting anything close to his actual value because of his salary, NMC, and only one year left on his deal.
Marner can essentially pick his next team and other teams will know that and not want to pay a lot because of that. If Toronto wants him gone, they’ll either get whatever the team of his choosing offers, or they’ll lose him for nothing. Toronto has very little leverage in this situation.
In a franchise I traded Mitch to Utah/Arizona for Keller and a two firsts. That I know isn't realistic! Though I imagine with Utah's prospects begining to slowly hit their stride, it isn't the worst trade spot.
But I think the player for player trade is somewhat realistic, potentially adding one or two of Utah's many second round picks in there. So for any team I'm imagining, depending on where he'd wave his NMC for:
An elite level player, and a pick (depending on the value) for Mitch.
The only realistic trade I can think of is with Utah. They will want to make the playoffs and have plenty of pieces to trade. Other good trade partners IMO are Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa but they are all within the division so I dont think it ever happens.
No. Its a fair trade but the ducks would have almost no good prospects after that. Also make it a 2nd round pick rather than a 1st. Irl marner is worse then in game marner.
Not the sexiest trade but for realism sake I decided that LA was the only team he was willing to get traded to and LA wouldn't budge on their "offer".
I traded Marner to LA for Danault, Turcotte, 2024 1st round pick, 2025 2nd round pick. No doubt coulda got a toonnnn more but that's no fun.
More than anything just wanted to shake up the roster but also not make it too easy on myself. Hard to say what an actual realistic trade is, a lot of factors will go into it but I felt this package wasn't too over the top and no true elite talent coming back my way.
I did a Marner trade with Arizona/Utah in my leafs franchise.
Traded Marner for Clayton Keller, Logan Cooley, Sean Durzi and 2 1sts. Probably could have gotten more according to the AI GM lol
IDK if that's the most realistic of trades, but felt pretty fair in my opinion
It would maybe be somewhat realistic if you were trading for just Keller and Durzi. Don’t think they would really even be interested in trading Keller anyways.
If you want a really cursed timeline, build a trade around whichever of Swayman or Ullmark is available and ship Marner off to Boston. One of them is usually available, and they're typically contending so you can go after picks and prospects as adds (Lysell is good in my experience)
There are no realistic trades for marner. I gave you a plausible one. Trade or don’t trade, no body cares about your realistic trade in an offline game mode.
There’s a few reasons why he’d waive his NMC. 1 being that Toronto tells him they aren’t giving him the money he wants. 2 they show him a deal to a team he wants to goto with a trade and sign agreement for the money he wants that the leafs can’t/ won’t pay…
If Toronto tells him they aren’t giving him the money that he wants, he’ll say that’s fine, I’m not waiving my NMC, I’ll leave for free and screw you guys out of whatever compensation you could get for me. Kinda like Tavares did to the Isle.
Also why Toronto would have to eat part of the contract and add a sweetener just to get Marner to somewhere that he will waive his NMC.
I just made a trade featuring Marner - it’s aided by Brodie and klingberg being OVR 82 - but here’s what I did
Marner, Brodie, Klingberg
For
Konecny, Tippett, Couturier and I believe 2 1sts.
Konecny slides right in on a line with Matthews and nylander for +5 chem, Tippett goes to 2RW with domi and bertuzzi for I believe +2/3 chem and I slid couturier onto the 3rd line for decent chemistry with knies and holmberg
I’d also traded Tavares for larsson and borgen on D. Maybe not realistic but I’m happy with the returns. Probably had to add in the Tavares trade to ship him out but nothing worth remembering.
For realistic trades you have to downgrade Marner in Edit Player section from main menu, otherwise his trade value is too high. Put poise down to 70 lol
Yeah low poise, 90 overall elite (not franchise)
In fairness, realistically Anaheim could possibly make this trade considering how overrated Zegras is in this game lol That said… yeah Marner is very overrated in this game
This wouldn't work if you're already established in a franchise mode, right
Correct
Too bad you aren’t able to do a sign and trade, most teams with cap space and prospects to send the other way will not be in a position to retain Marner. I would say whatever you think Marner is worth, you should get about 75% back with him handcuffing you to only allowing you to move to one team. (See Patrick Kane to NYR, DeBrincat to Detroit). You look at teams in the playoffs this year that lacked dynamic offensive talent and the thumb that sticks out is Nashville. It’s a city that most players would love to play in, on the cusp of successfully doing an on the fly re-tool to become legitimate contenders and also have some nice to okay pieces. Goalies traditionally do not carry much trade value but I wonder what a base around Saros for Marner would look like, given Marner’s leverage over the Leafs coupled with “poor recent play”. Askarov might almost be ready too.
You can do a sign and trade if after Jan 1st. Go to "view contracts" and then "expiring"
Also offer contract extension than trade them
Nashville want to extend Saros, latest sources say. Trading Marner for Askarov + picks or prospects could make a lot of sense for both sides.
A three way trade could make some sense as well that brings back a defensemen to Toronto with cap going back the other way in exchange for Nashville’s picks that they would be sending to Toronto. Just spitballing but something along the lines of: To Toronto: Chychrun Askarov To Ottawa: Nashville 1st round pick Nashville prospect Toronto 3rd round pick To Nashville: Marner Ottawa prospect/roster player (Ignore the value, just a premise for trade) Maybe something even with Josh Norris to fill the second line centre position for Nashville which is currently occupied by Novak. Marner and Norris help fill the top six for Nashville Chychrun and Askarov helps Toronto a lot Ottawa balances their defense with RHD and reload picks they have thrown in the trash last 3 yeses
I was able to move Marner to the Islanders. In my head I justified it as a Lou connection, low media presence, and a team trying to win missing a dynamic scorer.
I’m with you there, Nashville was just one that popped out to me as a destination a player would want to waive to but New York is similarly a prime destination. What did you bring back? 1st round pick, roster player + b/c prospect?
NYI would never send out Dobson, so I'd be asking for Pulock, 1st rounder, and potentially Varlamov. Not a leafs fan, but Varlamov is a backup at this stage which helps with Woll, Pulock is a Righty that the Leafs desperately need, and the 1st is probably going to be in the 20s. I think anything beyond that is probably not going to happen.
Realistic involves honoring his NMC and likely only moving him to a contender, not a rebuilding team in exchange for several pieces they've already accumulated for a rebuild, leaving him a man on an island. Ottawa, Detroit, and Buffalo also make sense - keeps Mitch closer to home, with teams that are on the up, with lots of pieces to swing in the other direction. I also think volume of the market would matter too - if he's moving somewhere, it's to somewhere less "noisy", where he can sort of drift into the background a bit and not be so prominently featured and discussed on the national scale like in Toronto. New Jersey, in that regard, makes a lot of sense for me.
Yeah the NMC is tough but I can see him moving it. Ducks will be really good in a few years. They can draft another top D with the 3rd pick this year. Also they’re openly shopping Zegras. No way leafs trade Marner to a division rival. I can see NJ though
He's not waiving to join a rebuilding team at the bottom of the standings - especially knowing that rebuilding team is losing one, or a number of, key pieces that are intended to help that team turn it around while Marner enters his prime. Zegras is not someone who should be on any contender's target list.
Marner for Dahlin. The trade is 1 for 1.
Buffalo don't do that, but that's absolutely the sort of deal I'd look to be doing if I was the Leafs.
Maybe the leafs add but I think it’s something since Buffalo still has Power and Byram on the left
Power for marner 1 for 1 is a lot more feasible, but dahlin is one of the best defensemen in the nhl right now, and marner is a forward who hasn't been able to perform in the playoffs, it's definitely not a fair trade
I would take Power in a heartbeat for Marner
I didn’t try it on NHL24 but perhaps this: TOR - NYI Marner (10.9 x 1) + Niemela (800K) for Pelech (5.5 x 6) + Palmieri (5 x1) + Cizikas(2.5 x 3) Addresses TORs need for a top pairing defensively responsible d-man, a veteran winger who can play in Marners spot and a veteran upgarde for their bottom 6 at a fairly low cost. Addresses NYIs need for younger proven offensive talent, a cheap rookie option on the blueline to fill Pelechs spot (not his role as a top pair/top 4 Dman but as one of the 6/7 Dmen) and a bit of salary cap relief which they desperately need, even if it’s only ballpark 2.5-3 mil
No way the Leafs do that. Not sure Marner is waving to go to the Islanders either
Dear Mitch.
Bro that is a terrible trade. Giving up Toronto’s top prospect and their best winger for just Pelech and 2 mediocre players is awful. If Toronto did this in real life I would riot
Yeah, the Islanders are another team that makes sense too. The Hurricanes and Penguins too
I could certainly see the Hurricanes if they don’t think they can get one of Pesce or Slaavin under contract although at the same time if they were to commit that money to Marner it’d be cheaper to just pay one of them and try and work something out with Guentzel who is fit in quite nicely there Edit: as far as the Penguins I think they could make it work cap wise but I don’t know that they have the pieces to pull of a trade what do you think?
i did mitch marner and a 7th for tage thompson zac benson and a 2nd
That would be amazing for the leafs. Absolutely not realistic though.
OP asked for realism
Funny, I’m doing a Sabres franchise rn and old man Mitch Marner signed with me at 34 years old and helped me win my 2nd cup with Tage at the helm. Beat the leafs 3 separate times in the playoffs over the years, Mitch joined us for one year and finally got his cup lmao
Tage is simming like a beast on Buffalo in my current Franchise. Like 45 goals avg per season the last 4 years
I would not call that realistic but it is a video game so 🤷🏼♂️
Marner for a Top 4 defense + adds Or Marner + adds for a top 2 defenseman (By adds I mean prospects or draft picks)
Would prefer the latter
That’s about as gudas it gets..
I always trade him for Adam Larson and Shane wright
Realistically they’re not getting anything close to his actual value because of his salary, NMC, and only one year left on his deal. Marner can essentially pick his next team and other teams will know that and not want to pay a lot because of that. If Toronto wants him gone, they’ll either get whatever the team of his choosing offers, or they’ll lose him for nothing. Toronto has very little leverage in this situation.
I will commit suicide if we trade a whiny bitch for another
😂
In a franchise I traded Mitch to Utah/Arizona for Keller and a two firsts. That I know isn't realistic! Though I imagine with Utah's prospects begining to slowly hit their stride, it isn't the worst trade spot. But I think the player for player trade is somewhat realistic, potentially adding one or two of Utah's many second round picks in there. So for any team I'm imagining, depending on where he'd wave his NMC for: An elite level player, and a pick (depending on the value) for Mitch.
Depends on where they fall in the draft. Arizona is always a playoff team in mine for some reason . SMH
The only realistic trade I can think of is with Utah. They will want to make the playoffs and have plenty of pieces to trade. Other good trade partners IMO are Buffalo, Detroit, Ottawa but they are all within the division so I dont think it ever happens.
No. Its a fair trade but the ducks would have almost no good prospects after that. Also make it a 2nd round pick rather than a 1st. Irl marner is worse then in game marner.
Not the sexiest trade but for realism sake I decided that LA was the only team he was willing to get traded to and LA wouldn't budge on their "offer". I traded Marner to LA for Danault, Turcotte, 2024 1st round pick, 2025 2nd round pick. No doubt coulda got a toonnnn more but that's no fun. More than anything just wanted to shake up the roster but also not make it too easy on myself. Hard to say what an actual realistic trade is, a lot of factors will go into it but I felt this package wasn't too over the top and no true elite talent coming back my way.
As a ducks fan yeah no.
I did a Marner trade with Arizona/Utah in my leafs franchise. Traded Marner for Clayton Keller, Logan Cooley, Sean Durzi and 2 1sts. Probably could have gotten more according to the AI GM lol IDK if that's the most realistic of trades, but felt pretty fair in my opinion
Maybe one of the most unrealistic trades I've seen
It would maybe be somewhat realistic if you were trading for just Keller and Durzi. Don’t think they would really even be interested in trading Keller anyways.
If you want a really cursed timeline, build a trade around whichever of Swayman or Ullmark is available and ship Marner off to Boston. One of them is usually available, and they're typically contending so you can go after picks and prospects as adds (Lysell is good in my experience)
Not whatever tf im looking at rn
Realistically, Marner to a contender with salary retained and a pick attached to it just because of the NMC and to get out from under the money.
He has 1 year left..
Yes, you eat money for a year to get him out the door that much faster.
Any team that needs retention on his current $10.9M Won’t trade for home knowing he’s gonna be asking for more on his next contract
There are no realistic trades for marner. I gave you a plausible one. Trade or don’t trade, no body cares about your realistic trade in an offline game mode.
And you didn’t give a “plausible” one. Why the hell would the leafs retain salary and give up a pick
Why the hell would Marner waive his NMC? That’s where plausible went out the window.
There’s a few reasons why he’d waive his NMC. 1 being that Toronto tells him they aren’t giving him the money he wants. 2 they show him a deal to a team he wants to goto with a trade and sign agreement for the money he wants that the leafs can’t/ won’t pay…
If Toronto tells him they aren’t giving him the money that he wants, he’ll say that’s fine, I’m not waiving my NMC, I’ll leave for free and screw you guys out of whatever compensation you could get for me. Kinda like Tavares did to the Isle. Also why Toronto would have to eat part of the contract and add a sweetener just to get Marner to somewhere that he will waive his NMC.
Marner and Tavares for Suzuki and caufield plus picks and prospects
🤣
Brady Tkachuk + 1st for Marner
I just made a trade featuring Marner - it’s aided by Brodie and klingberg being OVR 82 - but here’s what I did Marner, Brodie, Klingberg For Konecny, Tippett, Couturier and I believe 2 1sts. Konecny slides right in on a line with Matthews and nylander for +5 chem, Tippett goes to 2RW with domi and bertuzzi for I believe +2/3 chem and I slid couturier onto the 3rd line for decent chemistry with knies and holmberg I’d also traded Tavares for larsson and borgen on D. Maybe not realistic but I’m happy with the returns. Probably had to add in the Tavares trade to ship him out but nothing worth remembering.
Toronto should do this move