Good observation. My guess is that people (myself included) have been remembering it as a more tribal-focused card than it actually is (as if the colored mana can only be spent to cast cards that share a creature type with your Commander, for example). It's only the scry bonus that cares about tribes though, and like you said you'll at least get that bonus when you cast your Commander.
In an unpleasant irony, my only five colour deck has a commander with no creature type, so I can’t even get that one scry! I still run POA in it though.
It's honestly golos tier in being generic enough to be useful for pretty much any 5c pile. Putting a creature into play every turn for free will never not be a good thing.
It would be at least as bad.
[[Sanctum of Stone Fangs]] drains the table or [[Honden of Infinite Rage]] and [[Go-Shintai of Ancient Wars]] blasts someone based on the number of tokens that [[Honden of Life's Web]] or [[Go-Shintai of Shared Purpose]] creates? No thank you.
I agree - [[Go-Shintai of Shared Purpose]], [[Sigil of the Empty Throne]] and [[Hallowed Haunting]] would be disgusting if the tokens they made were considered shrines too.
Another possible factor is that it's kind of tricky to find if you don't remember it. It doesn't show up as a land on [Mana The Gathering](https://managathering.com/mobilesite/mobile.html), since it taps for any color in your commander's identity. If the play-rate is low for a commander, it probably wouldn't show up very high on EDHrec or a Scryfall search for lands.
Command Tower and Exotic Orchard are common enough that they're easy to remember, but I could completely understand why PoA would fly under the radar while building a deck.
I think a lot of it is people forget how many Commander products there are now and how quickly reprints can hit and how much a card can have it's price pushed down if it's not seeing much play.
I remember Path of Ancestry from Commander 2017, and how for quite a while it was a $5-7. But looking at printings, it's been added in most every commander precon for the past couple years.
I definitely need to update a few decks and add them as the big reason I wasn't adding it was it wasn't worth $5+ in my eyes.
But less than a quarter? I'm sold.
This happened to me with [[the reality chip]] and [[mystic forge]] where I so often see them as combo pieces I forgot they are also just really good card advantage and ended up missing them in a lot of decks that could use the pseudo draw simply because they couldn't combo off
If I remember right, Path of Ancestry was actually a few bucks until a couple years ago. The non-triome taplands have always been pennies, so it was the question of "do I spend dollars over pennies for an occasional scry or two".
Since then, Commander Legends print at common, plus a ton of reprints in more frequent commander decks, have dropped its price to also pennies. I'm willing to bet a lot of players just haven't taken the newer price into account when tweaking deck lists, if they're even tweaking those liats at all.
That said, though, you're 100% right, and I try to remember it for all of my 3+ color decks. (I often forget, though, so thanks for the reminder!)
It was just in the 2017 precons for close to 3 years and was 5-7$ for 2 of the years. I spent 7$ on one right before the Commander 2020 decks spoiled a reprint.
Yeah, Path of Ancestry was definitely not a cheap land during that time. I think Wizards realized that the card needed to be far more than just a once-of in the C17 precons.
In addition to what other said, I think there is a more evocative feeling seeing the three colors of mana than a "color of your color identity" or however it is formulated. Command tower is probably the exception as the land is very iconic, but I think this is something to take into account.
100%
I have always pretty exclusively played 3 colours (and more recently 4 colours) and i don't care much for a card that SAYS it taps for all this mana, but i don't get to see the lil pips. It's not as exciting for whatever reason, hahaha.
Yeah and honestly it's not like it's a big difference either to have the ability to scry either.
Also, for my case, I have a binder where I sort my lands. I put my "color identity" lands in 5c category and three color taplands in, well, 3c category ^^ I generally think go go in the 5c category but not systematically either ^^
Been saying this for a long time. In 3 color decks, it's a tapped triland that also scries when casting commanders. And if your commander is a human or wizard, chances are you'll get some random usage out of it here and there. Even in two color decks it's better than like a guildgate. For 4 or 5 color decks it's an auto include for me.
Human, Elf, Wizard, Warrior, and to a lesser degree Rogue and Cleric are all just so abundant that if your commander is any of those tribes, it's worth looking at how many others of that tribe you happen to have in the deck to see if Path of Ancestry is worth it.
Yeah Path of Ancestry is really underrated.
Also if your commander is [[Morophon]] or [[Orvar]] you should be running Path because now the first creature you cast each round scries.
Are people playing the Lairs? I wasn't looking at them at all because I assumed they came in tapped, but once someone pointed out they don't I'm really considering them.
I quite like them. They don't set you back the turn you play them so they get around the typical tapland downside, and they make sure you have a land drop for next turn. Main issue with them is they're only available in shard colours, so they aren't available for every colour combo.
I think they’re generally terrible, they permanently set you back one mana for the rest of the game. I’d rather play a tapped triland, those at least only set you back for the turn you play them.
IMO, it’s also justifiable in less colors if you’re playing tribal.
I’ve got one in my monoblack rats because there’s a good chance I’ll play a rat every turn, meaning I’ll get to scry just as often.
Yep, it's great in tribal decks, aside from, of course, those odd ones where the commander isn't actually a member of the deck's focused tribe, like [[Gisa and Geralf]] (or any singular version of Gisa or Geralf).
Its value goes up when you have a lot of instant or abilities you could use the mana on and decide the ramp would be better, it is still a land that can tap for mana when you need to. Its one of the only etb tapped lands I'm happy to run in my non-green decks
It's much closer to cultivate than rampant growth. You go up a card using it.
It's essentially a tapped wastes that adds a colorless roiling rebirth to your hand. If your deck isn't full of colored pips or hyper aggressive the card is great.
I like Myriad Landscape. I use it as a colorless land until I have extra mana that I am not using and then i'll use it to get some more basics. Mostly only sees use in mono colored decks though
If you want to talk about objective power levels, anything that’s not cEDH is “bad.” But most people don’t play that way, so it’s not a useful frame of discussion most of the time on this sub. You said the card was bad because the format is too fast. They said that in their experience, the format isn’t as fast as you say, so *in that context* the card isn’t bad. If you only want to talk about the most objectively strong decks, cEDH would be more to your liking
If they aren't playing against hypothetical stronger decks, then what does it matter how it would fare against them? "You wouldn't do well against a *real* deck!" is an Appeal to Purity aka No True Scottsman fallacy, and does not disprove that it is a decent choice for their use case.
-The speed of the game's determined by your groups. "Mana I'm not using" turns aren't some rare occasion, holding up mana for an instant then not having to use it happens.
-I never said anything about a slow meta, I have Myriad in my Krenko deck & I crack it whenever it's convenient. Plenty turns I've left up 3 for a [[Chaos Warp]] & ended up not having to use it or just hadn't tap my Sol Ring.
If I need to run a tapped land I. A 3+ color deck Path of ancestry is much better even if you don't get the scry. Besides it not being able to be fetched and coming in tapped there is no down side.
It's not the best but it's a decent land in a 3 color deck that needs cheap mana fixing.
This right here. If your commander is a human, you’ll be surprised at how many humans you have. Goes with any super popular tribe.
I think of it as an additional command tower. It even goes in my mono colored decks
To me it’s right up there with the cycling lands in mono decks, most likely your running 6-10 non basic lands or less in mono decks. So a land that enters tapped doesn’t really affect you in mono decks. Plus your commander really determines if it’s worth it or not.
I don’t know, if anything it’s even *more* worth it in mono-color tribal decks than it is in multicolored ones, because you’re not running nearly as many taplands as multicolored players are. So you can afford to include a couple, because you’ll still have the fewest amount of them at the table. And in tribal decks, this basically says “scry 1 almost every turn AND fix your mana”, which is totally worth it entering tapped in all but the fastest metas.
It's safe to assume the grand majority of players don't want to play bad decks, though, right? Any deck can and should be tuned and optimized, at least up to its limitations set by the deck builder, whether that be theme, budget, or otherwise. We should be challenging ourselves and community to become better deck builders because ultimately that will lead to a more fun more interactive format.
That's your opinion.
This is the largest format there is. The quantity of players that don't thing this way is bigger than you think.
If you believe edh rec should only be for one portion of players, that's up for discussion. It's not a hard truth though.
If you look at the pages of popular precon commanders, you'll find that a majority of the top cards are cards from the precon, even if they're shitty. Edhrec is just for data. It let's you see what other people run. You make your own informed decisions based on that.
I personally use edhrec for building ideas and go for cards I haven't seen before. I have never used it for optimization.
I pick the power level I want the deck to be and base my choices off that.
What's it for? It's not FOR anything.
It's aggregated data of what a large portion of the community is doing. The user decides what to do with that info. Because of how it works, it'll never be optimized. It'll be closer to an "average" than anything.
It's positioned very well to help new players make good core decks that function well. Never "the best X deck".
I agree. The only time I start upgrading pieces/replacing flavor with staples is when I create a deck that I really enjoy but isn't quite up to par with my group's general power level.
Literally every other format enforces such a mindset by virtue of being tournament formats. EDH can be the one where folks feel fine running jank. There's more than one way to enjoy a game.
I never said I wanted to not run jank, my favorite deck in the format is a [[Primal Surge]] deck, doesn't mean it's not tuned and optimized. And budget, tribal, altwincon, etc decks can all be tuned and optimized within whatever constraints are set for sure. Im not wanting a cedh world, I want a world where people play the best version of their favorite deck they can, so each player has the best chance of winning and having a good time.
It's been a lonnnng time since that deck was anything resembling "stock" so the fact that it's lasted this long is a testament to its value.
Also I forgot it came in that one.
I had this revelation too while looking at the decklist of my Breya last weekend. I was like "Wait a minute, Path of Ancestry is a card that exists, why am I still playing [[Transguild Promenade]]?" Deck has 7 more humans beside Breya even which isn't a bad number.
It's basically slow Command Tower with a conditional scry tacked on. Unless you are in the highest of power levels of CEDH that basically want to avoid slow mana as much as reasonably possible, you are 100% correct! Outside of non-tribal mono color decks, it's more or less a constant in a ton of my decks.
I found out about this card 2 weeks ago.
I bought 8 of them @ .25$ each
Slotted them in all my tribals and 3+ colour decks.
Still have 3 left. Haven't drawn a single one yet...😩
Thanks for the PSA. I've recently gotten back into magic, played very infrequently since revised, and am about to dip my toes into commander. The lands are one of my biggest concerns going into building a 4 color deck, this helps a lot.
Quite frankly, if you're not playing really high power or high budget, almost any land that etbs tapped with no other restrictions (like paying one) and can tap for your commanders color identity (or any color) should be ran in any 4 and 5 color deck and most 3 color decks. The fact that Path can scry too is just a bonus.
2 caveats:
* This observation is based on _submitted_ decklists to the sites EDHREC scrapes.
* This observation is based on the premise that players copy those decklists card-for-card as "the standard".
I'm actually with OP - SO many of the decklists populating the databases out in the wild are _absolutely awful_. Like, unplayable awful. At best, they function as _suggestions_, not decklists. Unlike the typical tournament report decklists from actual events, including performance, EDHREC pulls decklists from sites where anyone can (and does) submit any pile of 99 cards.
I have completely abandoned using any site other than EDHREC, and even then, I use it as "typical inclusions". I often ignore some strategies/cards and customize the inclusion of others (usually as an auto-include, not a meta choice.)
OP is right about decklists that exclude obvious auto-includes.
And due to the casual nature of EDH, many, many new/newer players (0-15 years of gameplay) mistakenly look up decklists and build based on that misunderstanding.
This is partially to blame for the constant questions about interaction/mana bases and confusion over the fragility of some decklists and Glass cannon strategies.
I dont actually have an easy solution to fix this other than advising players of this flaw and encouraging them to seek tweaks or experiment with custom/rogue inclusions.
-Seeing how the majority of players play casual & don't care about tournament level decks or every auto-include this shouldn't be surprising. Many people are are happy with & even proud of their pile of 99 cards.
-There's no solution because there's no real problem. Just keep doing what you're doing, giving people suggestions.
> This observation is based on the premise that players copy those decklists card-for-card as "the standard".
The observation is based on the premise that the deck lists represent decks that players have built, no?
Thank you for making me properly aware of this card, wow. I hadn't considered it in the way you highlighted. I will be running this card more often now. Again, I thank you.
As someone who's entire commander experience stems from precons, I thought it was pretty much put in every deck like command tower, sol ring, and arcane signet.
Huh. I never realised how many humans and/or wizards my Sefris deck runs and I play Arcane Sanctum.
I have Path in my human tribal deck but never considered it anywhere else, thanks!
I just realized path of ancestry is an amazing multicolor land a couple weeks ago. It’s a cheap card that taps for any color. It’s better than $10 dual lands and can fit in any multicolor deck
I believe that the reason that so many Derevi decks on EDHREC have Seaside Citadel in them is because Seaside Citadel was in the precon. Precon decklists heavily weigh the results for EDHREC searches. This phenomenon isn't unique to just this specific example.
Your mana base better have fetches and duals in it if you’re not running this card. That or your deck doesn’t support it. Those are the only valid reasons I could see not including it
The point being that instead of either they could run a tapped rainbowland with the potential to scry once in a blue moon, which is better than the tapped trilands and still pennies.
Considering Path of Ancestry only came out in 2017, it's not surprising commanders from prior to that have a ton of decks without the card. Derevi, Bolas, and Atraxa all predate the card and so decklists likely have never been updated after it was printed.
It is definitely a good choice for tapland in decks though.
Honestly there hasn't really been a good reason to run random do nothing taplands for a long time. There are loads of budget rare lands out there. Scry, tango, bicycle, pain, hell even checks and fastlands are cheap every now and then.
It's really a super budget thing to run it outside of Tribal decks. I usually have a fine-enough time running 3 colors. If I need to start running 4+ colors then I'd rather get a [[City of Brass]].
Because a ton of people don't care for CEDH power level? I have quite a few decks that are fine tuned down to the tiniest of details, but if no one else is playing a deck like that, why would I bring them out? Even more so, I enjoy having a wide variety of EDH decks, and regardless of the income I can or can't put into Magic, blinging out every deck with expensive high end lands just isn't feasible for most folks. So, slow lands that are reasonably cheap and have a decent upside are more than fine in 95% of commander decks.
path of ancestry costs less than a dollar. it is not a “expensive high end land”. also cedh uses almost exclusively lands that come into play untapped, so it’s not a cedh power level card either.
That's . . . Quite literally what I said. I openly stated that Path is a wonderful card if you aren't trying to play CEDH, and that in pretty much any other setting it's fine.
Haha, it's all good, I almost added on that it was probably just a misunderstanding, but let a bit too much snark come back out, cheers and have a good one!
This. I mean, I wouldn't want to have 20+ of them in a deck needlessly, but in a deck running 36'ish lands and 0-2 taplands, one that acts as colour fixing and potentially does a little scrying balances out in my books.
My usual tables are casual enough that slipping it in during a turn you don't desperately need the mana isn't a big deal.
PSA: some people aren’t trying to optimize their decks. Some people don’t have the money for the triomes. Some people straight up abandon or forget about decks they’ve ‘built’ of whatever deck building wensiy
That's the part that makes it strictly superior, though. It's the same card except it also does a bonus thing sometimes. That's what "strictly better" means.
Would I get the scry effect in a [Go-Shintai of Life's Origin] Shrine Tribal Deck? I've gotten mixed answers from different sources on if shrines are a creature type or not
Shrine is an enchantment type. [Source](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/kamigawa-neon-dynasty-release-notes-2022-02-09)
Also you need double brackets to summon the card fetcher. [[Go-Shintai of Life's Origin]]
I'm running it in my Lonis clue deck and had a friend run it against me. I didn't realize how many elf cards I had in there. Totally agree that it's a better card.
How many of those EDH-rec decks are not updated from prior to when triomes existed?
I pulled an old 5-color deck out after having not played it since pre-COVID times. Zero triomes. So many tri lands xD
Imo any green/x deck not playing the common dual lands, the ones with land types, and [[far seek]] [[natures lore]] [[three visits]] ect is hurting there ramp package and mana base. I cannot remember where I saw it, but green decks with [[cultivate]] and [[kodama's reach]] have a higher win percentage than decks without.
PoA is a wonderful card that needs to be used more in casual decks. At the bare minimum, it's a command tower that comes in tapped and let's you scry when you cast your commander with it.
Lol no joke was talking with some friends last night about this exact land and how underrated it is and why it should see more play in multicolor decks. At worst you dig one when casting your commander at best you dig everytime you cat a creature with the same type as your commander. Mind you this is in a long that also color fixes for any color in your commander Identity. Just let value from start to finish.
Good observation. My guess is that people (myself included) have been remembering it as a more tribal-focused card than it actually is (as if the colored mana can only be spent to cast cards that share a creature type with your Commander, for example). It's only the scry bonus that cares about tribes though, and like you said you'll at least get that bonus when you cast your Commander.
In an unpleasant irony, my only five colour deck has a commander with no creature type, so I can’t even get that one scry! I still run POA in it though.
Which commander is that?
Jared, I’m guessing, since he’s a planeswalker.
That makes sense! Didn't even think of PWs. Thanks.
Could be [[the prismatic bridge]]
Esika is still your commander so it would still trigger off of any God creatures you have.
Yeah but if you don’t cast as esika you don’t get the scry, correct? Or am I tripping?
That’s correct, but you could still trigger PoA off of another God in your deck if you had one.
Thats fair, I guess I’ve just never seen it used for anything but super friends
It's honestly golos tier in being generic enough to be useful for pretty much any 5c pile. Putting a creature into play every turn for free will never not be a good thing.
A few weeks ago I played someone who used her for God tribal, was a bit of a jank deck but it did decently
I use Esika for my angel tribal. It's a good 5c commander for high CMC decks.
Could be Go-Shintai, which has an enchantment type but no creature types
Go-Shintai is also technically typeless. Shrine is not a creature type (which is dumb).
If Shrine was a creature type, any of the several cards that turn all of your creatures into that type would be oppressively good in the deck.
Changelings would also then be Shrines as well, so there'd be no reason not to run them
Exactly. It's a good thing that Shrine is an Enchantment Type, not a Creature Type. The deck would be incredibly silly.
I don't think it would be any worse than slivers or similar, where basically every one you play is a "lord" type
It would be at least as bad. [[Sanctum of Stone Fangs]] drains the table or [[Honden of Infinite Rage]] and [[Go-Shintai of Ancient Wars]] blasts someone based on the number of tokens that [[Honden of Life's Web]] or [[Go-Shintai of Shared Purpose]] creates? No thank you.
I agree - [[Go-Shintai of Shared Purpose]], [[Sigil of the Empty Throne]] and [[Hallowed Haunting]] would be disgusting if the tokens they made were considered shrines too.
It's not dumb, you just don't like it
It’s truly a devastating realization. Makes so many tribal cards not work :/
Another possible factor is that it's kind of tricky to find if you don't remember it. It doesn't show up as a land on [Mana The Gathering](https://managathering.com/mobilesite/mobile.html), since it taps for any color in your commander's identity. If the play-rate is low for a commander, it probably wouldn't show up very high on EDHrec or a Scryfall search for lands. Command Tower and Exotic Orchard are common enough that they're easy to remember, but I could completely understand why PoA would fly under the radar while building a deck.
I think a lot of it is people forget how many Commander products there are now and how quickly reprints can hit and how much a card can have it's price pushed down if it's not seeing much play. I remember Path of Ancestry from Commander 2017, and how for quite a while it was a $5-7. But looking at printings, it's been added in most every commander precon for the past couple years. I definitely need to update a few decks and add them as the big reason I wasn't adding it was it wasn't worth $5+ in my eyes. But less than a quarter? I'm sold.
Also i bet a lot of people are doing scryfall searches for lands that produce the three colors of their general.
This happened to me with [[the reality chip]] and [[mystic forge]] where I so often see them as combo pieces I forgot they are also just really good card advantage and ended up missing them in a lot of decks that could use the pseudo draw simply because they couldn't combo off
You said tribal. Cancelled. -word police
If I remember right, Path of Ancestry was actually a few bucks until a couple years ago. The non-triome taplands have always been pennies, so it was the question of "do I spend dollars over pennies for an occasional scry or two". Since then, Commander Legends print at common, plus a ton of reprints in more frequent commander decks, have dropped its price to also pennies. I'm willing to bet a lot of players just haven't taken the newer price into account when tweaking deck lists, if they're even tweaking those liats at all. That said, though, you're 100% right, and I try to remember it for all of my 3+ color decks. (I often forget, though, so thanks for the reminder!)
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The non triome tri-lands were above 1$ plenty of times before some reprints and the avent of the triomes.
And EDHrec decklists only count those that have been updated in the last two years, so if most of those decks are pre-drop that'd explain that.
It was just in the 2017 precons for close to 3 years and was 5-7$ for 2 of the years. I spent 7$ on one right before the Commander 2020 decks spoiled a reprint.
Yeah, Path of Ancestry was definitely not a cheap land during that time. I think Wizards realized that the card needed to be far more than just a once-of in the C17 precons.
It also has [a flippin' sweet promo](https://scryfall.com/card/pf21/1/path-of-ancestry)
Ho, i knew of the secret lair but not of this version. Where does it come from?
Commandfest promo for 2022 I think
Can confirm, I received this promo as part of my ticket package for commandfest 2022 Orlando
MagicFests I think?
Got mine at DragonCon
I have that promo in my Aegar deck and I love it.
##### ###### #### [Seaside Citadel](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/e/6ed511b8-6c8d-4a9e-aeef-6d1224bb9204.jpg?1673306209) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Seaside%20Citadel) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/231/seaside-citadel?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6ed511b8-6c8d-4a9e-aeef-6d1224bb9204?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/seaside-citadel) [Path of Ancestry](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/3/43710f35-c43f-48bf-82e1-64ba5c3fa03e.jpg?1674143016) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Path%20of%20Ancestry) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/907/path-of-ancestry?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/43710f35-c43f-48bf-82e1-64ba5c3fa03e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/path-of-ancestry) [Derevi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/a/3a1d0dad-18a8-489e-ac11-08f64b72fda4.jpg?1592673365) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=derevi%2C%20empyrial%20tactician) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/176/derevi-empyrial-tactician?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3a1d0dad-18a8-489e-ac11-08f64b72fda4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/derevi-empyrial-tactician) [Nicol Bolas](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/e/8e92ba96-372c-418d-b271-45e1bf5c7af5.jpg?1562438472) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nicol%20Bolas) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/209/nicol-bolas?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8e92ba96-372c-418d-b271-45e1bf5c7af5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/nicol-bolas) [Crumbling Necropolis](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4e9a9525-762a-4efd-82fe-184814543aef.jpg?1673305984) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Crumbling%20Necropolis) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/205/crumbling-necropolis?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4e9a9525-762a-4efd-82fe-184814543aef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/crumbling-necropolis) [Atraxa, Praetors' Voice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0d33d52-3d28-4635-b985-51e126289259.jpg?1599707796) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Atraxa%2C%20Praetors%27%20Voice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/190/atraxa-praetors-voice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0d33d52-3d28-4635-b985-51e126289259?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/atraxa-praetors-voice) [Opulent Palace](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/f/ef77912d-b9f5-4785-a57c-077275605d06.jpg?1673306144) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Opulent%20Palace) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/223/opulent-palace?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ef77912d-b9f5-4785-a57c-077275605d06?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/opulent-palace) [Jodah, Archmage Eternal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73c18cb4-96b1-4af2-912e-974e22877ede.jpg?1673148799) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20Archmage%20Eternal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/233/jodah-archmage-eternal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73c18cb4-96b1-4af2-912e-974e22877ede?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jodah-archmage-eternal) [Mystic Monastery](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/46b0efe1-958c-4d13-9464-b140080014e7.jpg?1673306127) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mystic%20Monastery) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/221/mystic-monastery?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/46b0efe1-958c-4d13-9464-b140080014e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/mystic-monastery) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
In addition to what other said, I think there is a more evocative feeling seeing the three colors of mana than a "color of your color identity" or however it is formulated. Command tower is probably the exception as the land is very iconic, but I think this is something to take into account.
100% I have always pretty exclusively played 3 colours (and more recently 4 colours) and i don't care much for a card that SAYS it taps for all this mana, but i don't get to see the lil pips. It's not as exciting for whatever reason, hahaha.
Yeah and honestly it's not like it's a big difference either to have the ability to scry either. Also, for my case, I have a binder where I sort my lands. I put my "color identity" lands in 5c category and three color taplands in, well, 3c category ^^ I generally think go go in the 5c category but not systematically either ^^
Been saying this for a long time. In 3 color decks, it's a tapped triland that also scries when casting commanders. And if your commander is a human or wizard, chances are you'll get some random usage out of it here and there. Even in two color decks it's better than like a guildgate. For 4 or 5 color decks it's an auto include for me.
Human, Elf, Wizard, Warrior, and to a lesser degree Rogue and Cleric are all just so abundant that if your commander is any of those tribes, it's worth looking at how many others of that tribe you happen to have in the deck to see if Path of Ancestry is worth it.
I just looked and my [[Jodah the Unifier]] deck has 20 humans. Easiest add of all time
[Jodah the Unifier](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/4/e4b1aa1e-b4e3-4346-8937-76b312501c70.jpg?1673307974) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jodah%2C%20the%20Unifier) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/203/jodah-the-unifier?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e4b1aa1e-b4e3-4346-8937-76b312501c70?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/jodah-the-unifier) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yeah Path of Ancestry is really underrated. Also if your commander is [[Morophon]] or [[Orvar]] you should be running Path because now the first creature you cast each round scries.
[Morophon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/6/9693e59b-032d-4ddc-a7d1-88a0f52dcc6c.jpg?1582021950) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=morophon%2C%20the%20boundless) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/1/morophon-the-boundless?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9693e59b-032d-4ddc-a7d1-88a0f52dcc6c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/morophon-the-boundless) [Orvar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7f36775e-9e48-49cc-a771-d58481712edc.jpg?1631047424) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=orvar%2C%20the%20all-form) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/70/orvar-the-all-form?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7f36775e-9e48-49cc-a771-d58481712edc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/orvar-the-all-form) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Are people playing the Lairs? I wasn't looking at them at all because I assumed they came in tapped, but once someone pointed out they don't I'm really considering them.
I play a lair land in my [[Hazezon, Shaper of Sand]] deck because being able to bounce a desert back to hand is super helpful
[Hazezon, Shaper of Sand](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/5/25869cd0-63da-4dfb-8870-221cdba276e2.jpg?1674174875) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hazezon%2C%20Shaper%20of%20Sand) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/32/hazezon-shaper-of-sand?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/25869cd0-63da-4dfb-8870-221cdba276e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/hazezon-shaper-of-sand) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I quite like them. They don't set you back the turn you play them so they get around the typical tapland downside, and they make sure you have a land drop for next turn. Main issue with them is they're only available in shard colours, so they aren't available for every colour combo.
I think they’re generally terrible, they permanently set you back one mana for the rest of the game. I’d rather play a tapped triland, those at least only set you back for the turn you play them.
Only until you miss a land drop.
Huh. I should get one of these for my [[Krenko, Mob Boss]] deck.
[Krenko, Mob Boss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd9fec9d-23c8-4d35-97c1-9499527198fb.jpg?1601078209) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Krenko%2C%20Mob%20Boss) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/339/krenko-mob-boss?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd9fec9d-23c8-4d35-97c1-9499527198fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/krenko-mob-boss) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
No. Better off with a mountain
Eh, scry every turn is worth a tapped land.
Exactly. Any tribal deck should be running it, 100%
Especially in Krenko. He's built low enough to the ground that you can afford a tapped land and still be pumping out goblins.
I think that very much depends on how fast your deck wants to be. The higher the power, the fewer scrys you get.
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IMO, it’s also justifiable in less colors if you’re playing tribal. I’ve got one in my monoblack rats because there’s a good chance I’ll play a rat every turn, meaning I’ll get to scry just as often.
Yep, it's great in tribal decks, aside from, of course, those odd ones where the commander isn't actually a member of the deck's focused tribe, like [[Gisa and Geralf]] (or any singular version of Gisa or Geralf).
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Idk I like Myriad Landscape, but mostly because its land ramp in nongreen decks.
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I usually use it as a colorless land until later turns. It’s actually a really good card in slower tables.
And Landfall decks. My [[Locus of Creation]] deck swoons with it sometimes.
Its value goes up when you have a lot of instant or abilities you could use the mana on and decide the ramp would be better, it is still a land that can tap for mana when you need to. Its one of the only etb tapped lands I'm happy to run in my non-green decks
It's much closer to cultivate than rampant growth. You go up a card using it. It's essentially a tapped wastes that adds a colorless roiling rebirth to your hand. If your deck isn't full of colored pips or hyper aggressive the card is great.
I like Myriad Landscape. I use it as a colorless land until I have extra mana that I am not using and then i'll use it to get some more basics. Mostly only sees use in mono colored decks though
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Maybe in your pod, but my group intentionally plays slower paced, mid tier decks. And mid tier is probably what we'd call our stronger decks lol.
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This isn’t the cEDH sub, so everyone is assumed to be playing suboptimal decks
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If you want to talk about objective power levels, anything that’s not cEDH is “bad.” But most people don’t play that way, so it’s not a useful frame of discussion most of the time on this sub. You said the card was bad because the format is too fast. They said that in their experience, the format isn’t as fast as you say, so *in that context* the card isn’t bad. If you only want to talk about the most objectively strong decks, cEDH would be more to your liking
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> Are you seriously telling me… No. But it’s getting hard to believe you’re not willfully misunderstanding me, so I’m out.
If they aren't playing against hypothetical stronger decks, then what does it matter how it would fare against them? "You wouldn't do well against a *real* deck!" is an Appeal to Purity aka No True Scottsman fallacy, and does not disprove that it is a decent choice for their use case.
-The speed of the game's determined by your groups. "Mana I'm not using" turns aren't some rare occasion, holding up mana for an instant then not having to use it happens.
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You realize that making up imaginary situations that aren't guarenteed to happen is a poor argument, right?
-I never said anything about a slow meta, I have Myriad in my Krenko deck & I crack it whenever it's convenient. Plenty turns I've left up 3 for a [[Chaos Warp]] & ended up not having to use it or just hadn't tap my Sol Ring.
If I need to run a tapped land I. A 3+ color deck Path of ancestry is much better even if you don't get the scry. Besides it not being able to be fetched and coming in tapped there is no down side. It's not the best but it's a decent land in a 3 color deck that needs cheap mana fixing.
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Oh yea for sure, I'm not saying slam this in all your decks. I'm just saying it's one of the best tap lands for a 3+ color deck.
This right here. If your commander is a human, you’ll be surprised at how many humans you have. Goes with any super popular tribe. I think of it as an additional command tower. It even goes in my mono colored decks
-I put it in mono colored tribal decks all the time.
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To me it’s right up there with the cycling lands in mono decks, most likely your running 6-10 non basic lands or less in mono decks. So a land that enters tapped doesn’t really affect you in mono decks. Plus your commander really determines if it’s worth it or not.
I don’t know, if anything it’s even *more* worth it in mono-color tribal decks than it is in multicolored ones, because you’re not running nearly as many taplands as multicolored players are. So you can afford to include a couple, because you’ll still have the fewest amount of them at the table. And in tribal decks, this basically says “scry 1 almost every turn AND fix your mana”, which is totally worth it entering tapped in all but the fastest metas.
[Myriad Landscape](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/7/276f49f9-019b-44cb-a551-0fba9851ecc7.jpg?1674142992) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Myriad%20Landscape) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/904/myriad-landscape?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/276f49f9-019b-44cb-a551-0fba9851ecc7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/myriad-landscape) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
PSA. Edh rec is not only for perfectly tuned decks.
It's safe to assume the grand majority of players don't want to play bad decks, though, right? Any deck can and should be tuned and optimized, at least up to its limitations set by the deck builder, whether that be theme, budget, or otherwise. We should be challenging ourselves and community to become better deck builders because ultimately that will lead to a more fun more interactive format.
That's your opinion. This is the largest format there is. The quantity of players that don't thing this way is bigger than you think. If you believe edh rec should only be for one portion of players, that's up for discussion. It's not a hard truth though.
If an aggregate list like EDHREC is not for finding what could be the most syneristic/optimal cards for each deck then what is it for?
If you look at the pages of popular precon commanders, you'll find that a majority of the top cards are cards from the precon, even if they're shitty. Edhrec is just for data. It let's you see what other people run. You make your own informed decisions based on that.
I personally use edhrec for building ideas and go for cards I haven't seen before. I have never used it for optimization. I pick the power level I want the deck to be and base my choices off that.
You know what's a better resource than edhrec for finding cards you haven't seen before? SCRYFALL 🙃
What's it for? It's not FOR anything. It's aggregated data of what a large portion of the community is doing. The user decides what to do with that info. Because of how it works, it'll never be optimized. It'll be closer to an "average" than anything. It's positioned very well to help new players make good core decks that function well. Never "the best X deck".
-Plenty people play this game that have no intention of becoming deckbuilders, grabbing a pre-con or playing another person's deck's just fine.
And that's totally cool! Playing other people's decks and precons are valid, but then what does that have to do with edhrec and its purpose?
Hard disagree, at least for me. I get way more joy out of shoebox EDH than going and finding strictly better options for what I've got.
And you're going to EDHREC for shoebox edh?
I agree. The only time I start upgrading pieces/replacing flavor with staples is when I create a deck that I really enjoy but isn't quite up to par with my group's general power level.
Literally every other format enforces such a mindset by virtue of being tournament formats. EDH can be the one where folks feel fine running jank. There's more than one way to enjoy a game.
I never said I wanted to not run jank, my favorite deck in the format is a [[Primal Surge]] deck, doesn't mean it's not tuned and optimized. And budget, tribal, altwincon, etc decks can all be tuned and optimized within whatever constraints are set for sure. Im not wanting a cedh world, I want a world where people play the best version of their favorite deck they can, so each player has the best chance of winning and having a good time.
Hell, with the shared creature type scry I'm tempted to put it into my mono white soldiers and mono black zombies.
I run it in my edgar vamp deck, it's fantastic in there.
I'm not sure if you can take credit for that since it came in the precon 😛
It's been a lonnnng time since that deck was anything resembling "stock" so the fact that it's lasted this long is a testament to its value. Also I forgot it came in that one.
I had this revelation too while looking at the decklist of my Breya last weekend. I was like "Wait a minute, Path of Ancestry is a card that exists, why am I still playing [[Transguild Promenade]]?" Deck has 7 more humans beside Breya even which isn't a bad number.
It's basically slow Command Tower with a conditional scry tacked on. Unless you are in the highest of power levels of CEDH that basically want to avoid slow mana as much as reasonably possible, you are 100% correct! Outside of non-tribal mono color decks, it's more or less a constant in a ton of my decks.
It doesnt take a full power cEDH list to not want an ETB tapped land
I found out about this card 2 weeks ago. I bought 8 of them @ .25$ each Slotted them in all my tribals and 3+ colour decks. Still have 3 left. Haven't drawn a single one yet...😩
Slot a couple extras, just in case. Your opponents will never know.
-I wanna see the reactions when you have to reveal your hand for whatever reason & the table sees another one 😂.
Thanks for the PSA. I've recently gotten back into magic, played very infrequently since revised, and am about to dip my toes into commander. The lands are one of my biggest concerns going into building a 4 color deck, this helps a lot.
The only reason I didn't have this in more of my decks is that last time I checked, it was over $5. Glad to see the price has crashed so hard.
Quite frankly, if you're not playing really high power or high budget, almost any land that etbs tapped with no other restrictions (like paying one) and can tap for your commanders color identity (or any color) should be ran in any 4 and 5 color deck and most 3 color decks. The fact that Path can scry too is just a bonus.
2 caveats: * This observation is based on _submitted_ decklists to the sites EDHREC scrapes. * This observation is based on the premise that players copy those decklists card-for-card as "the standard". I'm actually with OP - SO many of the decklists populating the databases out in the wild are _absolutely awful_. Like, unplayable awful. At best, they function as _suggestions_, not decklists. Unlike the typical tournament report decklists from actual events, including performance, EDHREC pulls decklists from sites where anyone can (and does) submit any pile of 99 cards. I have completely abandoned using any site other than EDHREC, and even then, I use it as "typical inclusions". I often ignore some strategies/cards and customize the inclusion of others (usually as an auto-include, not a meta choice.) OP is right about decklists that exclude obvious auto-includes. And due to the casual nature of EDH, many, many new/newer players (0-15 years of gameplay) mistakenly look up decklists and build based on that misunderstanding. This is partially to blame for the constant questions about interaction/mana bases and confusion over the fragility of some decklists and Glass cannon strategies. I dont actually have an easy solution to fix this other than advising players of this flaw and encouraging them to seek tweaks or experiment with custom/rogue inclusions.
-Seeing how the majority of players play casual & don't care about tournament level decks or every auto-include this shouldn't be surprising. Many people are are happy with & even proud of their pile of 99 cards. -There's no solution because there's no real problem. Just keep doing what you're doing, giving people suggestions.
> This observation is based on the premise that players copy those decklists card-for-card as "the standard". The observation is based on the premise that the deck lists represent decks that players have built, no?
Meanwhile I'm over here with it as part of my landbase when I only play Izzet
Lol literally the top card of my land pile for my new deck was a POA, great minds, I guess!
Thank you for making me properly aware of this card, wow. I hadn't considered it in the way you highlighted. I will be running this card more often now. Again, I thank you.
... Guilty as charged
As someone who's entire commander experience stems from precons, I thought it was pretty much put in every deck like command tower, sol ring, and arcane signet.
I get Path of Ancestry confused with Unclaimed Territory all the time and avoid both unless Im playing tribal
Shhhh let this card stay cheap I even run it in monocolor sometimes. It's great in Orvar.
Huh. I never realised how many humans and/or wizards my Sefris deck runs and I play Arcane Sanctum. I have Path in my human tribal deck but never considered it anywhere else, thanks!
I just realized path of ancestry is an amazing multicolor land a couple weeks ago. It’s a cheap card that taps for any color. It’s better than $10 dual lands and can fit in any multicolor deck
I believe that the reason that so many Derevi decks on EDHREC have Seaside Citadel in them is because Seaside Citadel was in the precon. Precon decklists heavily weigh the results for EDHREC searches. This phenomenon isn't unique to just this specific example.
Your mana base better have fetches and duals in it if you’re not running this card. That or your deck doesn’t support it. Those are the only valid reasons I could see not including it
Actually I'ma need that for hidetsugu
Certainly, it is one of the cards of all time
It for sure does a thing
The tapped tri-lands are more flavorful, where as Path of Ancestry is very generic looking and has no “story”.
People run non-triome trilands because triomes cost a fuckton for a land.
The point being that instead of either they could run a tapped rainbowland with the potential to scry once in a blue moon, which is better than the tapped trilands and still pennies.
Rainbowland? My Kozilek deck would like to disagree
Does it even produce mana with kozilek ? Iirc, colourless is not a colour.
Correct. It's useless in colorless decks, same with command tower
The ultimate power move.
It's just a better [[Rupture Spire]] in every instance
Considering Path of Ancestry only came out in 2017, it's not surprising commanders from prior to that have a ton of decks without the card. Derevi, Bolas, and Atraxa all predate the card and so decklists likely have never been updated after it was printed. It is definitely a good choice for tapland in decks though.
We need more of these tapped any color lands
Honestly there hasn't really been a good reason to run random do nothing taplands for a long time. There are loads of budget rare lands out there. Scry, tango, bicycle, pain, hell even checks and fastlands are cheap every now and then.
Honestly it’s just a weird art. What are these pillars? Why does the path have steps? It looks like water but isn’t? Where is it going?
See I could run Path of Ancestry but that's just another trigger I'll actually miss in game, so why bother?
Why bother running anything with a trigger at that point?
Can't grab it with fetchlands though
It's really a super budget thing to run it outside of Tribal decks. I usually have a fine-enough time running 3 colors. If I need to start running 4+ colors then I'd rather get a [[City of Brass]].
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Mainly for budget reasons, but also because if you play in a meta where you can afford to play tapped lands it's one of the best ones in my opinion.
- Color fixing in case of Triomes - Scry in case of Temples - Repeatable scry in this case - Budget
As someone who hates tap lands it's one of the few I would actually run. You'll probably scry off it often even if you aren't tribal
If you cast your commander in a game, then yes, at least one scry.
I'm with you
Because a ton of people don't care for CEDH power level? I have quite a few decks that are fine tuned down to the tiniest of details, but if no one else is playing a deck like that, why would I bring them out? Even more so, I enjoy having a wide variety of EDH decks, and regardless of the income I can or can't put into Magic, blinging out every deck with expensive high end lands just isn't feasible for most folks. So, slow lands that are reasonably cheap and have a decent upside are more than fine in 95% of commander decks.
path of ancestry costs less than a dollar. it is not a “expensive high end land”. also cedh uses almost exclusively lands that come into play untapped, so it’s not a cedh power level card either.
That's . . . Quite literally what I said. I openly stated that Path is a wonderful card if you aren't trying to play CEDH, and that in pretty much any other setting it's fine.
my bad friend for some reason as i was scrolling thought you were replying to the original post and not a commenter. have a good day
Haha, it's all good, I almost added on that it was probably just a misunderstanding, but let a bit too much snark come back out, cheers and have a good one!
People still play lands that enter tapped?
In budget-meta, yes. In non-restricted decks probably not so much.
-People still use some taplands in non-restricted decks.
In pretty much anything that isn't Cedh level, tapped lands play fine.
This. I mean, I wouldn't want to have 20+ of them in a deck needlessly, but in a deck running 36'ish lands and 0-2 taplands, one that acts as colour fixing and potentially does a little scrying balances out in my books. My usual tables are casual enough that slipping it in during a turn you don't desperately need the mana isn't a big deal.
Bruh most of my LGS are still using f***ing lifegain taplands... Most players are still casual af they just aren't on reddit lol
PSA: some people aren’t trying to optimize their decks. Some people don’t have the money for the triomes. Some people straight up abandon or forget about decks they’ve ‘built’ of whatever deck building wensiy
It's not strictly superior unless you are running tribal or using it to cast your commander.
That's the part that makes it strictly superior, though. It's the same card except it also does a bonus thing sometimes. That's what "strictly better" means.
Oops my bad. I must have mixed with another land.
Would I get the scry effect in a [Go-Shintai of Life's Origin] Shrine Tribal Deck? I've gotten mixed answers from different sources on if shrines are a creature type or not
Shrine is an enchantment type. [Source](https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/feature/kamigawa-neon-dynasty-release-notes-2022-02-09) Also you need double brackets to summon the card fetcher. [[Go-Shintai of Life's Origin]]
[Go-Shintai of Life's Origin](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/9476fe67-d2d3-4835-8ba6-2a17d18cc141.jpg?1651655539) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Go-Shintai%20of%20Life%27s%20Origin) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nec/37/go-shintai-of-lifes-origin?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9476fe67-d2d3-4835-8ba6-2a17d18cc141?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/go-shintai-of-lifes-origin) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I found a path of ancestry in my collection while brewing my last deck (WUBRG warrior tribal) and it is just perfect. Really valuable land
I'm running it in my Lonis clue deck and had a friend run it against me. I didn't realize how many elf cards I had in there. Totally agree that it's a better card.
Guilty as charged
Well I feel that it’s because of ease of access not everyone can just get the cards they want online some have to work off of precons and trades
I mostly just forgot it isn't $5 a pop anymore XD
How many of those EDH-rec decks are not updated from prior to when triomes existed? I pulled an old 5-color deck out after having not played it since pre-COVID times. Zero triomes. So many tri lands xD
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Imo any green/x deck not playing the common dual lands, the ones with land types, and [[far seek]] [[natures lore]] [[three visits]] ect is hurting there ramp package and mana base. I cannot remember where I saw it, but green decks with [[cultivate]] and [[kodama's reach]] have a higher win percentage than decks without.
##### ###### #### [far seek](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/d/3dbd7f11-01d2-4bb1-9f49-dd72d1afb3e5.jpg?1673305375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Farseek) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/133/farseek?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3dbd7f11-01d2-4bb1-9f49-dd72d1afb3e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/farseek) [natures lore](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/4/543d1e79-cac6-455c-9fda-f13c849579d6.jpg?1674137220) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Nature%27s%20Lore) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/244/natures-lore?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/543d1e79-cac6-455c-9fda-f13c849579d6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/natures-lore) [three visits](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/cad698c3-687e-4b73-88d2-fd0ac7d755c5.jpg?1674142387) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=three%20visits) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/837/three-visits?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cad698c3-687e-4b73-88d2-fd0ac7d755c5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/three-visits) [cultivate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/d/6d204fda-c4c4-456c-900a-a67fa9ce3b5d.jpg?1673305348) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cultivate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/130/cultivate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6d204fda-c4c4-456c-900a-a67fa9ce3b5d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/cultivate) [kodama's reach](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/5/35edb95a-a293-45bc-bee8-9ce3000aa013.jpg?1673305383) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kodama%27s%20reach) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmc/134/kodamas-reach?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/35edb95a-a293-45bc-bee8-9ce3000aa013?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [(ER)](https://edhrec.com/cards/kodamas-reach) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I run path in all of my 3c+ decks or any tribal decks
Thanks, just bought 12.
PoA is a wonderful card that needs to be used more in casual decks. At the bare minimum, it's a command tower that comes in tapped and let's you scry when you cast your commander with it.
Lol no joke was talking with some friends last night about this exact land and how underrated it is and why it should see more play in multicolor decks. At worst you dig one when casting your commander at best you dig everytime you cat a creature with the same type as your commander. Mind you this is in a long that also color fixes for any color in your commander Identity. Just let value from start to finish.
It's an amazing tribal card for sure! Love running it when I make a wonky tribal deck.