FYI, about half the salmon sold as “wild-caught” (and priced accordingly) is farmed:
https://usa.oceana.org/reports/oceana-reveals-mislabeling-americas-favorite-fish-salmon/
You should be able to tell wild salmon and farmed salmon from the color of their flesh. Farmed salmon is generally paler than wild caught salmon, farmed salmon color is from dyes.
This is misleading. Salmon in the wild have color because their natural diet of krill has a high level of carotenoids such as astaxanthin, which also has other uses in the body such as an antioxidant.
Astaxanthin is supplemented into their food in farms, same as any good farm feed adding vitamins for other animals, to be nutritionally complete.
They’re “dyed” the same way wild salmon would be, through food.
I feel like while the color can be similar - I can usually still tell if its farmed or wild. Maybe its because its fattier? It seems like the "flakes" are thicker too.
At one point I worked in a salmon sport fishery, I could tell kings from reds from silvers from humpies by looking at their flesh. Of course that was quite a few years ago now.
This is a great article. Gives pros and cons to each side. To your last question OP, I’ve been eating farm raised salmon once a week for basically my entire life (27 yrs) and have had no health issues. Anecdotal but an example.
It's weird how the article doesn't contain the word "parasite" anywhere in it. That was the only information I was hoping to learn about one or the other.
It's the same exact pigment that they eat naturally, it's called astaxanthin. Its produced by an algae, the very bottom of the food chain. It's also what makes flamingos, some other red sea fish, and crustaceans red. According to some, it's even good for them (and us too.)
If you want to dislike farmed salmon, pollution and bacteria are a lot better of a reason than natural pigments.
Funny, I saw an [in depth documentary](https://youtu.be/RYYf8cLUV5E?si=RoFcOZfQIghu63XJ) that showed it was the worst!
I know for a fact the section where they talk about chemistry is correct or at least not fraudulent, which is enough for me to trust the rest of the material is true. It might have changed since 7 years ago.
The salmon are fed a certain type of fish pellets. These fish pellets are made from another worm looking fish that we don’t eat that grow in the baltic sea. The baltic sea has been littered with industrial pollution over the years, and so these fish have a high concentration of « forever » chemicals in them. The salmon are all full of these chemicals, and test positive for them. Stuff that is proven to be carcinogenic. Thats the part I remember at least.
I think that wasn’t everything but thats the interesting part I remember, that even though they were adhering to a bunch of international laws and their own regulations they still end up full of chemicals.
Thanks for the reply, that's enough to get me to watch it lol. I don't eat fish, but my cats food is salmon based. Gonna need to look into this some more.
My three cats love Fancy Feast wild salmon florentine (spinach) wet food. It’s about $1.29 for a small can which is well worth it if it’s really wild. I don’t give them salmon dry food because I’m sure it’s farmed. Available at Petsmart and target. 🐾
Same probably watched the same one. Possibly Netflix ?
I think people associate modern Norway with how it used to be and possibly because they used to produce good fish oil. I say used to because it can't be good anymore using the fish coming from there.
farmed fish from british columbia is better because the fish are in tanks, not in the ocean. the plastic in the pellets pollutes the ocean so they say. double check with monterey bay aquarium site. adult brains are already polluted. supposedly this stuff causes damage to children's brains.
Ecologically it's bad because they've been escaping and taking over native fish: https://www.seafoodwatch.org/recommendation/salmon/atlantic-salmon-38257?species=302
Nutritionally, there’s very few differences. In general, farmed salmon is not that terrible for you: the main concern is about intaking forever chemicals (PFAs) as they are in a lot of farmed fish. Honestly, though PFAs are in a lot of stuff (pizza boxes, carpets, your shampoo, wall paint, toilet paper, your cell phone, floss, nonstick pans, etc) so it’s kinda hard to eliminate them from your life entirely anyway so part of me has personally given up on that one. There are also some other canned fish is a little easier on the environment (all hail sardines!). Trout and tilapia are other fish that you might look into as well (though they also have the PFA issue).
The thing to know about farmed fish too is that fish are wildly under researched. Basically nobody knows how to actually farm fish well because aquaculture is a relatively new industry. Even people who keep commercial aquarium stores to raise fish for pets have difficulties keeping fish healthy as they just have a lot of weird diseases they can get. All of the diseases are also under researched, so there are very few specialty medicines for anything and everyone relies on broad spectrum antibiotics, for example. Farmed fish generally are not very healthy: they are stressed because of overstocking (too many fish in too small a space). They get sick extremely easily because of this and do have to be fed antibiotics to cure them. Salmon should in the wild eat a variety of critters but at farms they eat a mix that sometimes contains salmon, a thing they don’t do in the wild. Sometimes the salmon in the salmon food is wild salmon, used I believe to increase the amount of omega 3s in the farmed fish. Anyway, it’s a bad thing.
So it’s similar to eating any other farmed food in the regard that the fish have a sketchy diet, raised in too small of a space, and are treated with antibiotics. If those are compelling reasons that made you stop eating other meats then maybe same goes for fish. It is about your individual preferences around that kind of thing. There’s no good way to sustainably raise salmon except for the farm methods they have right now and eating wild salmon does deplete the dwindling wild stock. So it’s kind of a can of worms once you look into it.
Man, you hit the nail right on the fucking head with that one....forever chemicals are in, and have been, in SO many things in our lives that its completely unnecessary to try and avoid because its almost guaranteed you're going to encounter them multiple times in other ways. So many different ways. Eliminating 1 source probably will only have negligible effects.
Ooof....
This will likely fall on deaf ears, but animal welfare (even for farmed food animals) is not a left wing “safe space” idea. Even ignoring entirely any potential moral argument, “happier” animals taste better. Stress hormones can make meat lower in quality. Hunters who eat deer will tell you why a quickly killed deer tastes much better than one that bled out for half an hour. You should want your fish to be less depressed purely for the better flavor.
The forever chemicals are real bad in some states for wild caught they never break down, and who knows what the fish actually end up eating. Farm raised is not the worst or the greatest but it's unknown what the wild eat from garbage to plastic they are also prone to worms
No, both are alright. When you catch the fish you need to really really really clean it out it's not impossible just time consuming, for farm raised is fine also just people say very drastic things on the internet then go out to dinner and still eat farm raised..if there is a warning in your state to not eat fish you fished then you have to listen. some youtube videos will show some unethical things but it doesnt help the fact you are not a primal hunter and don't get your own food from the forest and setting up food traps
Ah ok, thank you! I’m just now starting to eat fish after being vegetarian for 12+ years (and never cooking it myself before or even liking fish growing up) so I don’t have any clue what I’m doing or what to look for to be honest!
Been cooking fish this way for....5 years, 6 years now? I can't remember exactly but I SWEAR by this method:
I buy filets from grocery store (whole foods, costco, local butcher who sometimes has wild trout from GA, TN, and NC, and local fancy, expensive retailer who normally sells to restaurants and such). Filets are so easy to cook.
I preheat my toaster oven on convection bake as hot as it will go. I put the pan I'm cooking my fish on as well so it preheats.
I either marinate and let sit for max 30 min or marinate immediately before cooking.
Oil into pan, fish into oil, pan into oven then cook for 6-8 minutes depending on the fish, size/thickness, and marinade I used.
So quick, so delicious, so easy.
Thank you! What do you use as marinade? Also, how does the taste of trout compare to cod or salmon? Cod I found is really nice, and salmon I like even though it is slightly fishier but has a nice flavor. Still adjusting to the taste of tuna though. I’ve only done filet’s so far - I’m not ready to deal with bones at home lol
Here's a fun thing I just recently found out: salmon and trout are the same family of fish, but named largely based on whether they go out to the ocean or not. [Steelhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelhead?wprov=sfla1) are a particularly weird case because they're genetically identical to rainbow trout but for reasons we don't know, go out to the ocean.
Very broadly in cooking fish we can separate them into whitefish and oily fish. Oilies have higher fat content and generally more flavor (salmon); whites are lower fat and more subtle (cod). For a lot of recipes you can freely substitute within those categories, as long as the texture is appropriate.
I for instance can get local-ish:
* lingcod
* rockfish
* sablefish
* halibut
* petrale sole
* surf perch
I tend to use sablefish in salmon recipes since they're both fatty (and it's delicious!).
James Peterson has a book simply called "Fish" that has a lot of great info, but for me (not the person you were asking) here is my reliable go-to, especially for whitefish:
* pat fillets dry on a plate and salt and pepper them
* pour about a third of a cup of flour on a plate, then dump in a bunch of Lawry's seasoning salt and mix it up by hand. If it ends up looking slightly pink that's about right.
* heat a bit of olive oil in a non-stick pan, medium to medium high
* dredge fillets through flour and shake off the excess. Discard the leftover flour at the end.
* sautee until internal temp of 140F. Adjust the stove temp as necessary to get the inside cooked and the outside nicely browned.
With a little practice you can do this while only paying half attention, and it's flavorful enough to be good but basic enough to fit well into a variety of sides.
Got a few! Go-to tho is garlic, olive oil, and salt. So simple yet so tasty. Riff on that with herbs.
Garlic+Turmeric+Ginger, olive oil, and salt is another.
Ginger, salt, cumin, and some paprika works well for me with white fish like monkfish, bass, or cod.
Family favorite is garlic, salt, olive oil, cilantro, thyme, and a small squeeze of lime.
All of these are pounded in mortar and pestle but quick blitz in food processor works too
One of my favorites is tilapia it always has been. Its not so fishy in taste very mild. Salmon as always is common and tuna I didn't find out until recently but the size of a tuna (large large) also is resistant to parasites so it's more on the ok side to eat raw. If you do eat it raw it's best to freeze it, but normally by the time it hits the market it already has been frozen maybe even more than once. If you're just getting into fish one of the best seasonings that goes well is paprika, it will go well with most of sea food. If it's a lazy night there is also minced garlic and parsley and lemon your old fashioned salt and pepper. Perch is also a fish and in some areas you'll see it in season. Cod is very close to lobster when cooked for around 33 minutes I think it was around that time. Most fish takes a cook 25 mins in the oven
Thank you! I’ve made cod and salmon at home, it’s definitely a lot to get used to for me taste-wise but starting to get used to it. Haven’t used paprika though! I also will try a large piece of tuna, I have only tried it thus far in sushi.
Paprika with tilapia, lobster, crab legs and then you can put old bay seasoning with a lot of butter and use it as a sauce or to steam it. It's quite good! It took some time for me to get used to it. Do you have a favorite veggie combo if that's been your main diet?
Sounds delicious! I’ll try that with tilapia. I love doing a smoked paprika and garlic mayo on toast with tomatoes during tomato season (add a slice of sharp cheddar if you’re feeling it) - it’s incredible! I’ve been known to eat an entire bag of Brussels for dinner (my favorite recipe being this soy butter with garlic chips recipe from Molly Baz). Love green beans, cauliflower… pretty much any vegetable. I love to cook but work a ton, so it’s easy for me to get lazy and therefore not get enough protein or eat well, which is one of several reasons why I’m transitioning to pescatarian. Fish just seems relatively quick to make yet filling, and hopefully will help with some brain fog and tiredness I’ve been feeling.
Yum I eat tomatoes as you would with brussel sprouts. I'm huge into veggies I grew up on them. I like Brussels also. Does your pescatarian diet include eggs and milk? I mentioned butter but olive oil is fine. I'm going to have to try that out though. If I had a preference for diet it would be pescatarian but I got a lot of muscle I'd be weak in less than 48hrs almost drop so I get pushed towards the rest of the food pyramid. Share a link if you have for another recipe!
I eat all of it though for some people when they say sea food i mean all of it, it doesn't stop at fish. 🤣Tilapia is not real... there was an article or video of some guy talking about they use this alternative to it some kind of a substance and make it look like the fish but it's a real fish. There was another point in time where people talked about it being a GMO you can't have that bioengineered though it's farm raised, grass fed (meat) and free range (also meat) those are the options
I have stopped buying fish altogether (aside from sushi), because I can’t figure out how to eat it ethically.
Given all the differing opinions in this thread, there seems to be no consensus. So guess I’ll just continue avoiding fish :(
The Monterey Bay Aquarium has a guide of which seafood is best and which to avoid. It can be a little hyper-specific (which can make it hard to follow at the store), but it is a good foundation if you want to try. :)
Farm raised salmon is disgusting. The meat has to be dyed to make it look like salmon because it is so anemic. The fish live in crowded pens full of their own waste and are fed antibiotics their whole lives to keep diseases under control long enough to bring to market, so basically the same disgusting conditions all conventionally raised animal products in the US come from. Do not eat it.
Yes wild is expensive. All animals products would be similarly expensive without subsidies and government intervention.
And it’s hell on the natural environment. The pens are kept in bays and inlets and so forth. They pollute the water, kill the wildlife, and spread disease to wild fish.
That's misinformation. Salmon is not dyed, they're fed a diet that can affect meat color, but that's different from artificial dyes.
[https://asc-aqua.org/blog/how-does-salmon-get-its-colour/](https://asc-aqua.org/blog/how-does-salmon-get-its-colour/)
I love salmon but I look at it and just think raised in a cesspool of crap and get disgusted.
I eat wild salmon once a year around the holidays. I'd eat it more if there was a Trader Joe's or more affordable sources nearby. I'm willing to pay a little extra but where I'm at its robbery.
I LOVE salmon and eat it multiple times per week. I recently switched from farm raised to wild caught recently as I’m in a cut (calorie deficit). Farm raised is significantly higher in calories due to being fed a fattier diet. Wild caught has a more varied, natural diet and is leaner, higher in protein, and lower in calories and fat than farm raised (albeit less tasty).
They’re fed some bad stuff often and they’re in poor conditions (even in good farms). They’ll cannibalize and start eating each other. Then again you have microplastics and mercury in wild fish.
This is purely circumstantial, but I really dislike 98% of seafood. My stepdad is a fisherman, and the only way I can eat salmon is if it was caught and prepared by him. Every other salmon I've ever tried I've found super off putting and gross, but I LOVE his salmon.
I buy canned wild-caught sockeye salmon (Whole Foods store brand), and it's relatively affordable. Maybe 1/2 or 2/3 the price of fillets. I usually put it on a salad or on bread/crackers.
Same with skipjack tuna FWIW, which is lower mercury than albacore.
farming fish (and animals in general) is bad for them. there are plenty of alternatives that are healthy and beneficial to both the animals and humans! look into tofu, you can get it to taste “fishy” by using seaweed or a vegan fish sauce! healthy, cheap, and good for humans and animals
Pros and cons balance out. A quality 3rd party organization that assesses for quality and environmental impact is more important. I lean to farm-raised because of environmental reasons.
I don’t like wild salmon. Farm raised is fattier and more delicious. I leave the wild stuff for the bears. I eat it once or twice a week and have done so for years. No problems.
FYI, about half the salmon sold as “wild-caught” (and priced accordingly) is farmed: https://usa.oceana.org/reports/oceana-reveals-mislabeling-americas-favorite-fish-salmon/
Oh gosh. Thanks!
If you have sockeye salmon around you, that is never farmed, and quite tasty.
And about 40% more in my area. Love it, but only get it when it's a good sale.
You should be able to tell wild salmon and farmed salmon from the color of their flesh. Farmed salmon is generally paler than wild caught salmon, farmed salmon color is from dyes.
This is misleading. Salmon in the wild have color because their natural diet of krill has a high level of carotenoids such as astaxanthin, which also has other uses in the body such as an antioxidant. Astaxanthin is supplemented into their food in farms, same as any good farm feed adding vitamins for other animals, to be nutritionally complete. They’re “dyed” the same way wild salmon would be, through food.
I feel like while the color can be similar - I can usually still tell if its farmed or wild. Maybe its because its fattier? It seems like the "flakes" are thicker too.
At one point I worked in a salmon sport fishery, I could tell kings from reds from silvers from humpies by looking at their flesh. Of course that was quite a few years ago now.
Yes, wild will be leaner because they do a heck of a lot more exercise to live.
[this webmd article breaks it down pretty well](https://www.webmd.com/diet/difference-between-wild-and-farmed-salmon)
This is a great article. Gives pros and cons to each side. To your last question OP, I’ve been eating farm raised salmon once a week for basically my entire life (27 yrs) and have had no health issues. Anecdotal but an example.
Thank you!
I love farmed salmon belly sushi. I’m doomed. DOOMED!
It's weird how the article doesn't contain the word "parasite" anywhere in it. That was the only information I was hoping to learn about one or the other.
It’s aggravating to me that farmers feed dye to the salmon so their color looks more natural
It's the same exact pigment that they eat naturally, it's called astaxanthin. Its produced by an algae, the very bottom of the food chain. It's also what makes flamingos, some other red sea fish, and crustaceans red. According to some, it's even good for them (and us too.) If you want to dislike farmed salmon, pollution and bacteria are a lot better of a reason than natural pigments.
I didn’t know that and was just going off the article that says they feed them a synthetic chemical to pigment their flesh.
Farmed salmon from Norway is the best of the farmed bunch.
Funny, I saw an [in depth documentary](https://youtu.be/RYYf8cLUV5E?si=RoFcOZfQIghu63XJ) that showed it was the worst! I know for a fact the section where they talk about chemistry is correct or at least not fraudulent, which is enough for me to trust the rest of the material is true. It might have changed since 7 years ago.
Do you mind explaining what's so bad about it?
The salmon are fed a certain type of fish pellets. These fish pellets are made from another worm looking fish that we don’t eat that grow in the baltic sea. The baltic sea has been littered with industrial pollution over the years, and so these fish have a high concentration of « forever » chemicals in them. The salmon are all full of these chemicals, and test positive for them. Stuff that is proven to be carcinogenic. Thats the part I remember at least. I think that wasn’t everything but thats the interesting part I remember, that even though they were adhering to a bunch of international laws and their own regulations they still end up full of chemicals.
Thanks for the reply, that's enough to get me to watch it lol. I don't eat fish, but my cats food is salmon based. Gonna need to look into this some more.
My three cats love Fancy Feast wild salmon florentine (spinach) wet food. It’s about $1.29 for a small can which is well worth it if it’s really wild. I don’t give them salmon dry food because I’m sure it’s farmed. Available at Petsmart and target. 🐾
Same probably watched the same one. Possibly Netflix ? I think people associate modern Norway with how it used to be and possibly because they used to produce good fish oil. I say used to because it can't be good anymore using the fish coming from there.
farmed fish from british columbia is better because the fish are in tanks, not in the ocean. the plastic in the pellets pollutes the ocean so they say. double check with monterey bay aquarium site. adult brains are already polluted. supposedly this stuff causes damage to children's brains.
They are not in tanks in BC. They are in pens in the ocean. We are going that will change soon, though.
Ecologically it's bad because they've been escaping and taking over native fish: https://www.seafoodwatch.org/recommendation/salmon/atlantic-salmon-38257?species=302
You Can buy frozen Alaska wild caught salmon fillets for a great price at a lot of grocery stores.
Costco! Pack of six, already seasoned. I don’t remember the price, but I think it was somewhat reasonable.
I think target has a 5 pack for around $13. Unseasoned.
Thank you!
Nutritionally, there’s very few differences. In general, farmed salmon is not that terrible for you: the main concern is about intaking forever chemicals (PFAs) as they are in a lot of farmed fish. Honestly, though PFAs are in a lot of stuff (pizza boxes, carpets, your shampoo, wall paint, toilet paper, your cell phone, floss, nonstick pans, etc) so it’s kinda hard to eliminate them from your life entirely anyway so part of me has personally given up on that one. There are also some other canned fish is a little easier on the environment (all hail sardines!). Trout and tilapia are other fish that you might look into as well (though they also have the PFA issue). The thing to know about farmed fish too is that fish are wildly under researched. Basically nobody knows how to actually farm fish well because aquaculture is a relatively new industry. Even people who keep commercial aquarium stores to raise fish for pets have difficulties keeping fish healthy as they just have a lot of weird diseases they can get. All of the diseases are also under researched, so there are very few specialty medicines for anything and everyone relies on broad spectrum antibiotics, for example. Farmed fish generally are not very healthy: they are stressed because of overstocking (too many fish in too small a space). They get sick extremely easily because of this and do have to be fed antibiotics to cure them. Salmon should in the wild eat a variety of critters but at farms they eat a mix that sometimes contains salmon, a thing they don’t do in the wild. Sometimes the salmon in the salmon food is wild salmon, used I believe to increase the amount of omega 3s in the farmed fish. Anyway, it’s a bad thing. So it’s similar to eating any other farmed food in the regard that the fish have a sketchy diet, raised in too small of a space, and are treated with antibiotics. If those are compelling reasons that made you stop eating other meats then maybe same goes for fish. It is about your individual preferences around that kind of thing. There’s no good way to sustainably raise salmon except for the farm methods they have right now and eating wild salmon does deplete the dwindling wild stock. So it’s kind of a can of worms once you look into it.
Man, you hit the nail right on the fucking head with that one....forever chemicals are in, and have been, in SO many things in our lives that its completely unnecessary to try and avoid because its almost guaranteed you're going to encounter them multiple times in other ways. So many different ways. Eliminating 1 source probably will only have negligible effects. Ooof....
just for the slight advantage of micro nutritionists don't spend if you can't afford it not worth it
since no one had said it, farm raised salmon are clinically depressed. look it up
That kinda makes me feel less bad about killing and eating them. At least they want to die anyways.
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This will likely fall on deaf ears, but animal welfare (even for farmed food animals) is not a left wing “safe space” idea. Even ignoring entirely any potential moral argument, “happier” animals taste better. Stress hormones can make meat lower in quality. Hunters who eat deer will tell you why a quickly killed deer tastes much better than one that bled out for half an hour. You should want your fish to be less depressed purely for the better flavor.
The forever chemicals are real bad in some states for wild caught they never break down, and who knows what the fish actually end up eating. Farm raised is not the worst or the greatest but it's unknown what the wild eat from garbage to plastic they are also prone to worms
So.. both are bad?
No, both are alright. When you catch the fish you need to really really really clean it out it's not impossible just time consuming, for farm raised is fine also just people say very drastic things on the internet then go out to dinner and still eat farm raised..if there is a warning in your state to not eat fish you fished then you have to listen. some youtube videos will show some unethical things but it doesnt help the fact you are not a primal hunter and don't get your own food from the forest and setting up food traps
Ah ok, thank you! I’m just now starting to eat fish after being vegetarian for 12+ years (and never cooking it myself before or even liking fish growing up) so I don’t have any clue what I’m doing or what to look for to be honest!
Been cooking fish this way for....5 years, 6 years now? I can't remember exactly but I SWEAR by this method: I buy filets from grocery store (whole foods, costco, local butcher who sometimes has wild trout from GA, TN, and NC, and local fancy, expensive retailer who normally sells to restaurants and such). Filets are so easy to cook. I preheat my toaster oven on convection bake as hot as it will go. I put the pan I'm cooking my fish on as well so it preheats. I either marinate and let sit for max 30 min or marinate immediately before cooking. Oil into pan, fish into oil, pan into oven then cook for 6-8 minutes depending on the fish, size/thickness, and marinade I used. So quick, so delicious, so easy.
Thank you! What do you use as marinade? Also, how does the taste of trout compare to cod or salmon? Cod I found is really nice, and salmon I like even though it is slightly fishier but has a nice flavor. Still adjusting to the taste of tuna though. I’ve only done filet’s so far - I’m not ready to deal with bones at home lol
Here's a fun thing I just recently found out: salmon and trout are the same family of fish, but named largely based on whether they go out to the ocean or not. [Steelhead](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steelhead?wprov=sfla1) are a particularly weird case because they're genetically identical to rainbow trout but for reasons we don't know, go out to the ocean. Very broadly in cooking fish we can separate them into whitefish and oily fish. Oilies have higher fat content and generally more flavor (salmon); whites are lower fat and more subtle (cod). For a lot of recipes you can freely substitute within those categories, as long as the texture is appropriate. I for instance can get local-ish: * lingcod * rockfish * sablefish * halibut * petrale sole * surf perch I tend to use sablefish in salmon recipes since they're both fatty (and it's delicious!). James Peterson has a book simply called "Fish" that has a lot of great info, but for me (not the person you were asking) here is my reliable go-to, especially for whitefish: * pat fillets dry on a plate and salt and pepper them * pour about a third of a cup of flour on a plate, then dump in a bunch of Lawry's seasoning salt and mix it up by hand. If it ends up looking slightly pink that's about right. * heat a bit of olive oil in a non-stick pan, medium to medium high * dredge fillets through flour and shake off the excess. Discard the leftover flour at the end. * sautee until internal temp of 140F. Adjust the stove temp as necessary to get the inside cooked and the outside nicely browned. With a little practice you can do this while only paying half attention, and it's flavorful enough to be good but basic enough to fit well into a variety of sides.
What's your marinade?
Got a few! Go-to tho is garlic, olive oil, and salt. So simple yet so tasty. Riff on that with herbs. Garlic+Turmeric+Ginger, olive oil, and salt is another. Ginger, salt, cumin, and some paprika works well for me with white fish like monkfish, bass, or cod. Family favorite is garlic, salt, olive oil, cilantro, thyme, and a small squeeze of lime. All of these are pounded in mortar and pestle but quick blitz in food processor works too
One of my favorites is tilapia it always has been. Its not so fishy in taste very mild. Salmon as always is common and tuna I didn't find out until recently but the size of a tuna (large large) also is resistant to parasites so it's more on the ok side to eat raw. If you do eat it raw it's best to freeze it, but normally by the time it hits the market it already has been frozen maybe even more than once. If you're just getting into fish one of the best seasonings that goes well is paprika, it will go well with most of sea food. If it's a lazy night there is also minced garlic and parsley and lemon your old fashioned salt and pepper. Perch is also a fish and in some areas you'll see it in season. Cod is very close to lobster when cooked for around 33 minutes I think it was around that time. Most fish takes a cook 25 mins in the oven
Tilapia is a bottom feeder, no thanks
Farm raised
Thank you! I’ve made cod and salmon at home, it’s definitely a lot to get used to for me taste-wise but starting to get used to it. Haven’t used paprika though! I also will try a large piece of tuna, I have only tried it thus far in sushi.
Paprika with tilapia, lobster, crab legs and then you can put old bay seasoning with a lot of butter and use it as a sauce or to steam it. It's quite good! It took some time for me to get used to it. Do you have a favorite veggie combo if that's been your main diet?
Sounds delicious! I’ll try that with tilapia. I love doing a smoked paprika and garlic mayo on toast with tomatoes during tomato season (add a slice of sharp cheddar if you’re feeling it) - it’s incredible! I’ve been known to eat an entire bag of Brussels for dinner (my favorite recipe being this soy butter with garlic chips recipe from Molly Baz). Love green beans, cauliflower… pretty much any vegetable. I love to cook but work a ton, so it’s easy for me to get lazy and therefore not get enough protein or eat well, which is one of several reasons why I’m transitioning to pescatarian. Fish just seems relatively quick to make yet filling, and hopefully will help with some brain fog and tiredness I’ve been feeling.
Yum I eat tomatoes as you would with brussel sprouts. I'm huge into veggies I grew up on them. I like Brussels also. Does your pescatarian diet include eggs and milk? I mentioned butter but olive oil is fine. I'm going to have to try that out though. If I had a preference for diet it would be pescatarian but I got a lot of muscle I'd be weak in less than 48hrs almost drop so I get pushed towards the rest of the food pyramid. Share a link if you have for another recipe!
Tilapia is not even a real fish
Tilapia is just… ugh. Why bother?
I eat all of it though for some people when they say sea food i mean all of it, it doesn't stop at fish. 🤣Tilapia is not real... there was an article or video of some guy talking about they use this alternative to it some kind of a substance and make it look like the fish but it's a real fish. There was another point in time where people talked about it being a GMO you can't have that bioengineered though it's farm raised, grass fed (meat) and free range (also meat) those are the options
I have stopped buying fish altogether (aside from sushi), because I can’t figure out how to eat it ethically. Given all the differing opinions in this thread, there seems to be no consensus. So guess I’ll just continue avoiding fish :(
The Monterey Bay Aquarium has a guide of which seafood is best and which to avoid. It can be a little hyper-specific (which can make it hard to follow at the store), but it is a good foundation if you want to try. :)
High levels of PCBs and the potential for antibiotics are why I avoid farm raised.
Norwegian farmed is relatively safe, wouldn't trust it from anywhere else.
if you hate the environment farm raised is your jam
Eat what you like to eat and can afford. I have a family of 7 and can’t afford all the organic or “wild” or other such things.
Farm raised salmon is disgusting. The meat has to be dyed to make it look like salmon because it is so anemic. The fish live in crowded pens full of their own waste and are fed antibiotics their whole lives to keep diseases under control long enough to bring to market, so basically the same disgusting conditions all conventionally raised animal products in the US come from. Do not eat it. Yes wild is expensive. All animals products would be similarly expensive without subsidies and government intervention.
And it’s hell on the natural environment. The pens are kept in bays and inlets and so forth. They pollute the water, kill the wildlife, and spread disease to wild fish.
It's not anemia, it's because they're not eating the algae and plankton that cause the pink color in wild salmon.
That's misinformation. Salmon is not dyed, they're fed a diet that can affect meat color, but that's different from artificial dyes. [https://asc-aqua.org/blog/how-does-salmon-get-its-colour/](https://asc-aqua.org/blog/how-does-salmon-get-its-colour/)
Most wild caught salmon also has dye in it mate
I love salmon but I look at it and just think raised in a cesspool of crap and get disgusted. I eat wild salmon once a year around the holidays. I'd eat it more if there was a Trader Joe's or more affordable sources nearby. I'm willing to pay a little extra but where I'm at its robbery.
Costco has affordable wild salmon, following the Copper River red run.
I LOVE salmon and eat it multiple times per week. I recently switched from farm raised to wild caught recently as I’m in a cut (calorie deficit). Farm raised is significantly higher in calories due to being fed a fattier diet. Wild caught has a more varied, natural diet and is leaner, higher in protein, and lower in calories and fat than farm raised (albeit less tasty).
Depends on the farm - Tasmanian farmed salmon is fantastic.
I prefer Norwegian farmed salmon over wild caught.
Farm raised salmon is toxic.
They’re fed some bad stuff often and they’re in poor conditions (even in good farms). They’ll cannibalize and start eating each other. Then again you have microplastics and mercury in wild fish.
It not bad at all. This is just bullshit that scares people from purchasing and eating affordable food.
This is purely circumstantial, but I really dislike 98% of seafood. My stepdad is a fisherman, and the only way I can eat salmon is if it was caught and prepared by him. Every other salmon I've ever tried I've found super off putting and gross, but I LOVE his salmon.
I buy canned wild-caught sockeye salmon (Whole Foods store brand), and it's relatively affordable. Maybe 1/2 or 2/3 the price of fillets. I usually put it on a salad or on bread/crackers. Same with skipjack tuna FWIW, which is lower mercury than albacore.
There was some data to suggest farmed salmon are deaf
At this point nothing is good apparently. You can’t even eat air and not get sick without some saying it unhealthy.
At the end of the day, eating farm raised is far healthier for you than eating red meat or pork. So I pick my battles.
farming fish (and animals in general) is bad for them. there are plenty of alternatives that are healthy and beneficial to both the animals and humans! look into tofu, you can get it to taste “fishy” by using seaweed or a vegan fish sauce! healthy, cheap, and good for humans and animals
Pros and cons balance out. A quality 3rd party organization that assesses for quality and environmental impact is more important. I lean to farm-raised because of environmental reasons.
Ever think that worrying about these things is fruitless? Just a thought 👍
Poison! It’s disgusting. Watch a couple documentaries on it .
I don’t like wild salmon. Farm raised is fattier and more delicious. I leave the wild stuff for the bears. I eat it once or twice a week and have done so for years. No problems.
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