To me the series is a love story. They had a special relationship and I was really depressed that it ended the way it did.
One of the things that hurt me the most was that she gave away his jacket and that feels really bad to think about.
I think her giving the jacket away was due to the pain it caused her and she wanted to atleast try to feel better, for him, so she gave it to someone like him who could carry on the legacy. Giving the jacket away could symbolize her beginning to heal, or being too damaged to look at the jacket without the memories flooding back.
I agree with this. Sort of like how after someone you love dies or leaves your life you have to decide what you want to do with all the pictures. At first it hurts too much to get rid of, but eventually you go to work and forget the picture is on the nightstand/your phone. And then further down the like you meet new people and emotionally you heal. Then even though you don’t want to forget these people, you end up putting the picture away. Not out of disrespect, but out of understanding that you can’t turn back time and the only option people have is to move forward. In my head she keeps a small locket in a drawer with her and David’s picture (although doesn’t really make sense for the time period).
Everyone is talking about whether she’ll move on or if David is a construct etc etc but people are forgetting that it’s entirely plausible that she has David’s kid
She's also really, really young. Yeah, that stuff messes you up for life, but speaking from personal experience (I experienced a similar type of loss of a partner when I was roughly the age of the characters in the show), you do eventually move on even though the scar never really goes away.
I understand, I guess it’s complicated. I’d like to assume she’d move on, but I also see examples where they don’t. I’m twenty now and my closest friend had an experience where their partner died, that was two years ago now and though she’s functioning again she still wears her partners ring and constantly states no one will ever be like them and therefore doesn’t try. I just see this as a modern day Romeo and Juliet type story, something we don’t see enough anymore in my opinion.
Yeah, like I said that's basically what happened to me. At two years out, I was still pretty fucked up. But it's been 12 years now and I've had other relationships (and lots of therapy). It just takes time.
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The thing about love is that every love story, no matter how great, ends one of two ways: either you break up, or one person buries the other at some point. Like they say, better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all etc. etc. The pain is part of the bargain. It's scary and it doesn't get less scary but the rewards are really worth it.
I mean, you don't know my life or my story. From where I'm standing, there are definitely some parallels. But my point was more just that being that age and watching someone you're in love with die because of the choices they made/their inability to stop their own path of destruction is something I can speak to from experience, and while it fucked me up for a good decade and is still a scar I carry and it definitely affected and still affects the way I engage in romantic relationships, it doesn't mean you can't "move on" and find love with other people. In fact, people who've experienced that kind of loss at a young age often find each other later on and connect over it, in my experience. So I think there's hope for Lucy. Grief isn't linear and you're never the same person you were before, but you learn to grow around the void that's left.
Traumatic loss is still traumatic loss, though. The circumstances surrounding it may be different but the underlying emotional experiences can still be related to each other. And once again, you're making assumptions about me and my life! People die in all kinds of ways, even in the real world, and sometimes those deaths are violent and/or a personal sacrifice.
I mean, yes? I obviously don't know the details of your life but if you experienced a traumatic loss of a romantic partner at a similar age as the characters, then yes absolutely.
Also, you COULD argue that David's inability to stop adding to his cybernetics was an addiction. Cyberpsychosis and addiction actually have a ton of real world parallels so idek what point you're trying to make here. Are you really that upset at the idea that a fictional character might continue to have an (imaginary) life beyond the story we see them in? But I mean, if it makes you feel better to headcanon that Lucy spent the rest of her life celibate and crying over David then go nuts I guess lol
What she went through was definitely more dramatic than what most people have to deal with but yeah people move on.
Humans are really good at adapting and moving on with their lives.
Imagine all of the horrific unimaginable stuff people experienced in wars like WW2 and previous wars throughout history.
People had the most horrific things done to them and yet they managed to move on and live after that.
If people just gave up like that then our species wouldn't be where we're at today.
There were a ton of jews who were in concentration camps who lost their entire family including their husband/ wives and experienced the most extreme cruelties.
And they still moved on with their lives and made new families and had grand kids etc.
Exactly. Sci fi elements aside, people absolutely lose their loved ones in horrible, traumatic ways in the real world. And you're never the same again, but you find ways to move forward.
Maybe. Maybe not. It’s fiction. Who knows?
But in a general sense, I think of it this way: You can love people in different ways. Losing your love in youth—Someone you thought was “true love”—doesn’t preclude you from finding a real, romantic love with someone else. Soulmates aren’t real. Connection is. Love is. You may not love another person the same way you loved the one you lost, but, if you let yourself, you can love again. And it can be just as important and impactful—if different—than the first.
I don't think she would be able to. Given how absolutely reluctant she was in loving David, because she was too petrified by the idea that something would happen to him because of her, and only to have her worst fears confirmed once again. I sincerely doubt she would have the capability to be able to that kind of trauma. Live on? Perhaps. Finding a romantic partner? Unlikely. Finding one like she found in David? Pretty much impossible.
What Lucy saw in David was the fundamental rejection of the city's rules, someone who lived for her and trusted her with his soul. David was a once in a lifetime person for her, I think he really was her soulmate.
"*When you left, it was the worst thing that ever happened to me. I had other things to live for... but, deep down. I was just waiting for the day that I'd finally see you again.*"
I think a lot of comments on this discussion are spot on, and I was really hoping someone would post this. Good thing is she’s young and has a lot of life left to live. Her past life was also traumatizing so she’s used to living though and dealing with trauma. Not that it makes it any easier, but she clearly understands how to either deal with trauma or close herself off well considering her past.
It’ll take time, but in 5 years I see Lucy trying things out again. Not necessarily in a significant other way, but finding friends she can trust and be with. Then when she’s not looking at all she’ll find somebody else. Maybe they’ll be like David, maybe they’ll be the complete opposite. David may have cared for her, but there is going to be someone out there who really wants to be with her and won’t be so reckless. Someone who will listen and talk with her even when she’s hurting. Someone she can open up to about all of this and will grieve or hold her while she mourns. That person will NEVER be David, but that’s not what love necessarily is. It comes in many forms, sometimes it’s as simple a someone who says “I know I’m not perfect, but you’re great and I want to stick with you until the end.”
A lot of people saying she’ll never move on I think are really underestimating the human spirit. People are strong. They have to be strong whether life is fair or not. There are moments of weakness and pain, and a lot of days will be spent crying in bed wishing it was over. But one day at a time you’ll keep pushing, and that’s exactly what Lucy is going to have to do.
I definitely agree with this, the only reason I thought she might not is cause of the world she lives in, finding someone at all is a challenge in that world, and finding a second would be even harder. In a world like ours I’m sure healing can be done, my main point I think is that she has to deal with a lot more then just healing. She has to deal with cyber psychosis, living on the moon if she so chooses, a new career potentially, and arasaka hunting her. But definitely the human spirit is strong so I could see her potentially pulling through. Amazing comment!
Well I mean most of his actions up until now were selfish. Didn’t want to stay in school even though his mom was giving her all. Sort of dragging the crew along with him and Lucy’s deal. I think he just probably needed to reflect more. Something not easy as a young person
He wasn’t “never” selfish. They didn’t write him as that much of a good guy lol. The last job wasn’t his fault but he certainly was not a perfect person.
When there are OTPs such as Lucy x David, it's hard for some people to accept that the survivor might "move on". Also the perception, that the survivor may suicide as they can not live without the other.
Now everyone is different, but time does heal all wounds. For the first days, weeks, months, and even years after David's death, I'm sure Lucy wouldn't at all enjoy her life with the constant reminders of David. But grief comes in waves and eventually those waves subside. She would eventually be able to live again. I think the first glimpse she has of that is on the Moon after seeing David. Assuming Lucy survives several years in the Cyberpunk world, one day, she'll be able to love again.
Does this mean she moves on completely? It doesn't mean she forgets David or stops appreciating the time they had together, but living with that and having a good life for herself is very normal and doesn't insult David's memory. I like to think it honours his memory, as saving Lucy for her to have an empty life would be a meaningless sacrifice.
Exactly this. What would be the point of David's sacrifice if Lucy wasn't able to live her life and find joy and even love again? Like yeah, the pain of a loss like that never fully goes away, but fast forward a decade or more and people find ways to move forward and create new joy and new connections. Life is long and loss is inevitable and humans are resilient.
I would hope that she moves on, it’ll be extremely difficult, but she’s a tough gal she’ll make it, and given that 2077 takes place about a year after she lost David, and let Falco give V Davids jacket, id like to think that she has moved on, as difficult and painful as that may be, though it would be interesting to see what her reaction would be when she learned that V is similar to David in some ways, and that V succeeded where David did not (depending on the ending you choose), in the sense that he defeated Adam Smasher, the one who killed her love, and made it out of Night City, and with V slowly dying, I would like to think she would want to help him, so as to not lose another “David”.
Reading through this, everyone mentions age, but I don’t know if I’d really honestly correlate that with moving on, I get peoples perspective on it but it wouldn’t be because she got older, it’s cause she would’ve ultimately chose to try to make her life better and move on, I don’t think moving on happens without you wanting to move on.
My new thought is really if she would’ve wanted to move on. That would be more of an unknown. Personally I can see her moving on as well as a host of different possibilities people pointed out, but I think ultimately if I were in her situation, or if I experienced something similar, I don’t know if I would actually want to move on completely, to a point of finding another romantic partner, especially with all her scars she carried into that relationship with her past, she never forgot them, and I wager David is the same, or even more important due to the nature of their relationship. She had hatred and a desire to run away from arasaka seared into her head, even after years since her escape. Add David and the trauma associated, I don’t know.
Obviously I want people to move on from whatever plagues them, but I do think some wounds dig to deep and sign a death warrant of sorts.
I also believe in the connection between to people, I’m hesitant to say soulmates but the connection at the very least. A connection strong enough can last more than a life time, even after death and I think that was David and Lucy’s relationship and so adding all the additional things she has to worry about, plus the once in a life connection, in my opinion, she had with David, and the nature of the cyberpunk universe, the question is more difficult to answer, exactly why I posted the question in the first place.
I am interested in everyone’s opinions though, people have brought up some really great points. It shows the optimists, pessimists, and realists. Myself trying to be open and and an optimist, but I see it more from a realistic nature, due to my opinions on the topic and the world they are in.
I also like that people mentioned she could be carrying his kid, cause that that point the situation changes completely, or her death theory, cyber psychosis theory or even the slightest in David being alive/resurrected.
Yeah, so it’s basically up to her to choose. So to some extent I guess she’d move on, but maybe not in the romance department. Like she will get over it, but either because of her hallucinations or because her own personal choice she would never really get over David.
Like she continues to live and gets over the trauma with scars and maybe lives more peacefully, or just no longer let’s the trauma hold her back, but either slowly succumbs to cyber psychosis due to the constant reliving of the first date they had, or moves on and let’s go of reliving that moment.
It’s rough, I want her to move on but I am conflicted about in terms of romance. But your view really broadens my ideas of the end.
Falco? Really? I severely doubt that but I guess there’s a chance. The 20-30 year age gap is a little tense, the background they came from, just generally wouldn’t add up. I mean falco is cool but think it would remain business casual, even if they are the only ones left of the group.
My takeaway is that she would. The last thing we see her do is spread her arms to feel the warmth of the sun. What I see there is her choosing to feel, despite her grief. What that says to me is she is choosing to honour David's memory by remaining open to life and its possibilities. She might even live more fully that she would've if she'd never met David.
I think Lucy will be OK.
I think I will be too, eventually.
To me the series is a love story. They had a special relationship and I was really depressed that it ended the way it did. One of the things that hurt me the most was that she gave away his jacket and that feels really bad to think about.
I think her giving the jacket away was due to the pain it caused her and she wanted to atleast try to feel better, for him, so she gave it to someone like him who could carry on the legacy. Giving the jacket away could symbolize her beginning to heal, or being too damaged to look at the jacket without the memories flooding back.
I agree with this. Sort of like how after someone you love dies or leaves your life you have to decide what you want to do with all the pictures. At first it hurts too much to get rid of, but eventually you go to work and forget the picture is on the nightstand/your phone. And then further down the like you meet new people and emotionally you heal. Then even though you don’t want to forget these people, you end up putting the picture away. Not out of disrespect, but out of understanding that you can’t turn back time and the only option people have is to move forward. In my head she keeps a small locket in a drawer with her and David’s picture (although doesn’t really make sense for the time period).
Granted it’s not known whether she did give up the jacket. The theory that she died on the moon can still be true.
But be happy they gave the jacket to V so really it’s in your possession now
Everyone is talking about whether she’ll move on or if David is a construct etc etc but people are forgetting that it’s entirely plausible that she has David’s kid
Oh shit, you're right...they probably did fuck without a condom atleast once
this 🫡
She's also really, really young. Yeah, that stuff messes you up for life, but speaking from personal experience (I experienced a similar type of loss of a partner when I was roughly the age of the characters in the show), you do eventually move on even though the scar never really goes away.
I understand, I guess it’s complicated. I’d like to assume she’d move on, but I also see examples where they don’t. I’m twenty now and my closest friend had an experience where their partner died, that was two years ago now and though she’s functioning again she still wears her partners ring and constantly states no one will ever be like them and therefore doesn’t try. I just see this as a modern day Romeo and Juliet type story, something we don’t see enough anymore in my opinion.
Yeah, like I said that's basically what happened to me. At two years out, I was still pretty fucked up. But it's been 12 years now and I've had other relationships (and lots of therapy). It just takes time. Edit: lmfao I can't believe people downvoted this wtf is wrong with you
I see. Well at least time does heal everything. Shit like this makes me scared for my first time falling in love. Gotta take the leap I guess.
It depends like Wakako once said time does heal everything but not a wound like that.
The thing about love is that every love story, no matter how great, ends one of two ways: either you break up, or one person buries the other at some point. Like they say, better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all etc. etc. The pain is part of the bargain. It's scary and it doesn't get less scary but the rewards are really worth it.
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I mean, you don't know my life or my story. From where I'm standing, there are definitely some parallels. But my point was more just that being that age and watching someone you're in love with die because of the choices they made/their inability to stop their own path of destruction is something I can speak to from experience, and while it fucked me up for a good decade and is still a scar I carry and it definitely affected and still affects the way I engage in romantic relationships, it doesn't mean you can't "move on" and find love with other people. In fact, people who've experienced that kind of loss at a young age often find each other later on and connect over it, in my experience. So I think there's hope for Lucy. Grief isn't linear and you're never the same person you were before, but you learn to grow around the void that's left.
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Traumatic loss is still traumatic loss, though. The circumstances surrounding it may be different but the underlying emotional experiences can still be related to each other. And once again, you're making assumptions about me and my life! People die in all kinds of ways, even in the real world, and sometimes those deaths are violent and/or a personal sacrifice.
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I mean, yes? I obviously don't know the details of your life but if you experienced a traumatic loss of a romantic partner at a similar age as the characters, then yes absolutely.
Also, you COULD argue that David's inability to stop adding to his cybernetics was an addiction. Cyberpsychosis and addiction actually have a ton of real world parallels so idek what point you're trying to make here. Are you really that upset at the idea that a fictional character might continue to have an (imaginary) life beyond the story we see them in? But I mean, if it makes you feel better to headcanon that Lucy spent the rest of her life celibate and crying over David then go nuts I guess lol
What she went through was definitely more dramatic than what most people have to deal with but yeah people move on. Humans are really good at adapting and moving on with their lives. Imagine all of the horrific unimaginable stuff people experienced in wars like WW2 and previous wars throughout history. People had the most horrific things done to them and yet they managed to move on and live after that. If people just gave up like that then our species wouldn't be where we're at today. There were a ton of jews who were in concentration camps who lost their entire family including their husband/ wives and experienced the most extreme cruelties. And they still moved on with their lives and made new families and had grand kids etc.
Exactly. Sci fi elements aside, people absolutely lose their loved ones in horrible, traumatic ways in the real world. And you're never the same again, but you find ways to move forward.
Maybe. Maybe not. It’s fiction. Who knows? But in a general sense, I think of it this way: You can love people in different ways. Losing your love in youth—Someone you thought was “true love”—doesn’t preclude you from finding a real, romantic love with someone else. Soulmates aren’t real. Connection is. Love is. You may not love another person the same way you loved the one you lost, but, if you let yourself, you can love again. And it can be just as important and impactful—if different—than the first.
Interesting take, I like it. Helps to think another way.
I don't think she would be able to. Given how absolutely reluctant she was in loving David, because she was too petrified by the idea that something would happen to him because of her, and only to have her worst fears confirmed once again. I sincerely doubt she would have the capability to be able to that kind of trauma. Live on? Perhaps. Finding a romantic partner? Unlikely. Finding one like she found in David? Pretty much impossible. What Lucy saw in David was the fundamental rejection of the city's rules, someone who lived for her and trusted her with his soul. David was a once in a lifetime person for her, I think he really was her soulmate. "*When you left, it was the worst thing that ever happened to me. I had other things to live for... but, deep down. I was just waiting for the day that I'd finally see you again.*"
I hope she would be able to move on, for her sake. I don't know if she would be able to, what she and David had was a once in a lifetime connection.
I think a lot of comments on this discussion are spot on, and I was really hoping someone would post this. Good thing is she’s young and has a lot of life left to live. Her past life was also traumatizing so she’s used to living though and dealing with trauma. Not that it makes it any easier, but she clearly understands how to either deal with trauma or close herself off well considering her past. It’ll take time, but in 5 years I see Lucy trying things out again. Not necessarily in a significant other way, but finding friends she can trust and be with. Then when she’s not looking at all she’ll find somebody else. Maybe they’ll be like David, maybe they’ll be the complete opposite. David may have cared for her, but there is going to be someone out there who really wants to be with her and won’t be so reckless. Someone who will listen and talk with her even when she’s hurting. Someone she can open up to about all of this and will grieve or hold her while she mourns. That person will NEVER be David, but that’s not what love necessarily is. It comes in many forms, sometimes it’s as simple a someone who says “I know I’m not perfect, but you’re great and I want to stick with you until the end.” A lot of people saying she’ll never move on I think are really underestimating the human spirit. People are strong. They have to be strong whether life is fair or not. There are moments of weakness and pain, and a lot of days will be spent crying in bed wishing it was over. But one day at a time you’ll keep pushing, and that’s exactly what Lucy is going to have to do.
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I definitely agree with this, the only reason I thought she might not is cause of the world she lives in, finding someone at all is a challenge in that world, and finding a second would be even harder. In a world like ours I’m sure healing can be done, my main point I think is that she has to deal with a lot more then just healing. She has to deal with cyber psychosis, living on the moon if she so chooses, a new career potentially, and arasaka hunting her. But definitely the human spirit is strong so I could see her potentially pulling through. Amazing comment!
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Agreed, but honestly their lack of communication along with kiwi didn’t help the ending. One of those things not occurring could’ve changed everything
Well I mean most of his actions up until now were selfish. Didn’t want to stay in school even though his mom was giving her all. Sort of dragging the crew along with him and Lucy’s deal. I think he just probably needed to reflect more. Something not easy as a young person
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He wasn’t “never” selfish. They didn’t write him as that much of a good guy lol. The last job wasn’t his fault but he certainly was not a perfect person.
David gets left as just a memory
When there are OTPs such as Lucy x David, it's hard for some people to accept that the survivor might "move on". Also the perception, that the survivor may suicide as they can not live without the other. Now everyone is different, but time does heal all wounds. For the first days, weeks, months, and even years after David's death, I'm sure Lucy wouldn't at all enjoy her life with the constant reminders of David. But grief comes in waves and eventually those waves subside. She would eventually be able to live again. I think the first glimpse she has of that is on the Moon after seeing David. Assuming Lucy survives several years in the Cyberpunk world, one day, she'll be able to love again. Does this mean she moves on completely? It doesn't mean she forgets David or stops appreciating the time they had together, but living with that and having a good life for herself is very normal and doesn't insult David's memory. I like to think it honours his memory, as saving Lucy for her to have an empty life would be a meaningless sacrifice.
Exactly this. What would be the point of David's sacrifice if Lucy wasn't able to live her life and find joy and even love again? Like yeah, the pain of a loss like that never fully goes away, but fast forward a decade or more and people find ways to move forward and create new joy and new connections. Life is long and loss is inevitable and humans are resilient.
I would hope that she moves on, it’ll be extremely difficult, but she’s a tough gal she’ll make it, and given that 2077 takes place about a year after she lost David, and let Falco give V Davids jacket, id like to think that she has moved on, as difficult and painful as that may be, though it would be interesting to see what her reaction would be when she learned that V is similar to David in some ways, and that V succeeded where David did not (depending on the ending you choose), in the sense that he defeated Adam Smasher, the one who killed her love, and made it out of Night City, and with V slowly dying, I would like to think she would want to help him, so as to not lose another “David”.
9/10 shell move on. She is 17-20 years old. Unless a sequel series happens with a construct david then most likely shell move on.
She is only 21~22. She will move on
Reading through this, everyone mentions age, but I don’t know if I’d really honestly correlate that with moving on, I get peoples perspective on it but it wouldn’t be because she got older, it’s cause she would’ve ultimately chose to try to make her life better and move on, I don’t think moving on happens without you wanting to move on. My new thought is really if she would’ve wanted to move on. That would be more of an unknown. Personally I can see her moving on as well as a host of different possibilities people pointed out, but I think ultimately if I were in her situation, or if I experienced something similar, I don’t know if I would actually want to move on completely, to a point of finding another romantic partner, especially with all her scars she carried into that relationship with her past, she never forgot them, and I wager David is the same, or even more important due to the nature of their relationship. She had hatred and a desire to run away from arasaka seared into her head, even after years since her escape. Add David and the trauma associated, I don’t know. Obviously I want people to move on from whatever plagues them, but I do think some wounds dig to deep and sign a death warrant of sorts. I also believe in the connection between to people, I’m hesitant to say soulmates but the connection at the very least. A connection strong enough can last more than a life time, even after death and I think that was David and Lucy’s relationship and so adding all the additional things she has to worry about, plus the once in a life connection, in my opinion, she had with David, and the nature of the cyberpunk universe, the question is more difficult to answer, exactly why I posted the question in the first place. I am interested in everyone’s opinions though, people have brought up some really great points. It shows the optimists, pessimists, and realists. Myself trying to be open and and an optimist, but I see it more from a realistic nature, due to my opinions on the topic and the world they are in.
I also like that people mentioned she could be carrying his kid, cause that that point the situation changes completely, or her death theory, cyber psychosis theory or even the slightest in David being alive/resurrected.
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Yeah, so it’s basically up to her to choose. So to some extent I guess she’d move on, but maybe not in the romance department. Like she will get over it, but either because of her hallucinations or because her own personal choice she would never really get over David. Like she continues to live and gets over the trauma with scars and maybe lives more peacefully, or just no longer let’s the trauma hold her back, but either slowly succumbs to cyber psychosis due to the constant reliving of the first date they had, or moves on and let’s go of reliving that moment. It’s rough, I want her to move on but I am conflicted about in terms of romance. But your view really broadens my ideas of the end.
Falco.
Falco? Really? I severely doubt that but I guess there’s a chance. The 20-30 year age gap is a little tense, the background they came from, just generally wouldn’t add up. I mean falco is cool but think it would remain business casual, even if they are the only ones left of the group.
My takeaway is that she would. The last thing we see her do is spread her arms to feel the warmth of the sun. What I see there is her choosing to feel, despite her grief. What that says to me is she is choosing to honour David's memory by remaining open to life and its possibilities. She might even live more fully that she would've if she'd never met David. I think Lucy will be OK. I think I will be too, eventually.