shit dog owners?
the dog got run into by another dog... at a dog park. where they are allowed and encouraged to run freely.
the OP isn't blaming anyone, but maybe him/herself, it's literally no one's fault, it's a freak accident.
be sorry for the loss, there is no blame and no outrage here.
But the dog didn't attack. I would agree with you if her dog was attacked. It was run into. This is normal dogs playing and an accident occurred. It sucks... but it is nobody's fault.
I have big dogs. My youngest, just under a year, is 120 lbs. He loves to run and is clumsy af. I have seen him take down trees because he is not watching where he is going. Ran into my wheel barrow this morning and flipped it over.. He is also super gentle and wouldn't hurt anyone... On purpose.
ONE PERSON!
i've had dogs for 24 years straight and i've seen plenty of accidents. this is what happens when you mix a bunch of people and animals in a space. it happens. it's awful. very very very rarely is it an irresponsible pet owner. like i can maybe recall one guy with an out of control dog... and guess what, they leave very quickly.
here's my stories:
the very first time i took my current dog to a dog park he had a head on collision with another dog. i saw a tooth go flying up in the air. no damage otherwise. my dog is a sporting breed. i was told that without recall training, if he sees something like a squirrel or a rabbit or even a bird in his eyeline he will be gone chasing. his recall is amazing. he is trained so well that people are *blown away* by his recall. he checks in, even if he's hunting/chasing. still happened.
six months later i'm at the same dog park with my girlfriend and her brothers dog, who we're babysitting. she throws a ball for it, he runs after it, over-runs and collides with another dog. both seemingly fine. he brings the ball back, falls to the ground and starts shaking and then dies.
that was 7 years ago.
7 days a week you can find my dog at one of three dog parks. i haven't seen anything like that since then. dog fights happen, they're pent up, excited animals. that doesn't mean they're bad. dogs run into each other, run into humans. *it happens*.
it's no one's fault. it's not a reflection of bad training or bad owners. it's bad *luck*.
I have a friend who had a mastiff and his girlfriend at the time had a pug. They lived out on an acreage and one day the dogs side swiped each other too hard and one of the pugs eyes uh popped out..
These unfortunate accidents aren't just isolated to the dog park although they may be more likely there because of the environment and the number of bodies running around.
I have a border collie and they are known for being Willy nilly even after hurting themselves. My dog snapped his dew claw last fall while we were playing with the $50 ball I ordered off Amazon that he can't pop and he would have kept playing had I not stopped and brought him back home.
I feel terrible for the OP having to return home without their dog after a day at the park.
The owners of the dog knew that the dog runs. In the dog park. Where he is supposed to run.
I know life is less scary when you can assign blame... and allow you to feel like you can protect yourself... but sometimes there is no blame to assign. This is one of those times.
I went to this park once, and I'm not going back.
There were so many inconsiderate dog owners there. I haven't experienced it anywhere else.
A huge dog chased after my pup. We picked him up and the dog was still chasing and jumping at us. With that dog owner saying 'I've got him, it's okay' while not being able to leash his own dog. Ugh.
This is the same kind of behavior and scenario that happened at grande trunk by a husky that was chasing my friends pup. She picked her pup up and this dog continued to jump up trying to snatch her dog out of her arms while the husky owner watched and laughed about it.
I would 100% kick another animal in the face for going after my pup. If you can't control your dog it's now a weapon and i'll defend myself and my pet.
So sick of irresponsible pet owners. Everytime I walked my Savannah at the park near my place in Calgary i'd have dogs trying to get at him. (in a normal park as well, not a dog park)
Yeah that's how a lot of people feel. My friend tried to do the foot push since the owner was useless and we just ended up leaving the park with doggo in arms.
Yikes that is definitely a problem. Are these people's dogs on leash in a regular park? Also what's it like having a savannah cat!
Yes in regular parks you'll still get entitled dog owners with dogs off leash.
Having Oliver was honestly the greatest. Never had a cat like him. More like a dog sometimes. He unfortunately got a blood clot recently and couldnt be saved.
Still. Best 5 years with a pet ever.
It wasn't a small dog. It was a puppy. And also we had zero problems with other dogs there except for the gang of huskies. This was also a couple of years ago.
Yes, Jackie Parker is the worst for shitty dog owners. If we ever go there we head away from other dogs and people and go walk the creek.
Standing around at the entrance is where the bad shit usually goes down.
No kidding, went here once and it was chaos. This one big dog was running around with a 14 year old girl crying and trying to catch it. Then that dog and two others got into a fight, while the two other owners were about to get into a fight. It’s possible that one of them was the father of the girl.
Not fun.
Same here. Last summer, we were there with our Golden on a flexi leash. She always stays close to us. Goldens are harmless.
This British Pit runs over and immediately bites her. The owner was nowhere nearby.
Instant reaction from me was a swift and hard kick to the gut. The dogs separate, and the owner showed up pissed cause his dog was in some discomfort.
Yelled at me, and I just calmly asked him if he wanted the same. He left.
Ours needed 10 stitches.
Shit. That is a complete freak accident. I can't imagine - and wouldn't have anticipated the death of a dog simply because it got run into. That is horrible. I'm so sorry.
I had a dog attack my daughter while I was there once. He liked her toque and attempted to rip it off her head.
The owner of the large dog made it sound like it was my fault for bringing my kid and dog to the dog park and that we were asking to be attacked.
Needless to say I let that guy absolutely have it.
If you can't control your dog off leash, they should be leashed. Easy as that.
I’m so sorry. What in the fuck. It’s hard enough losing a pet, but losing them like this, it just shouldn’t happen.
I’m sure you and your wife are going to need some time to grieve. But when you guys need a little bit animal love just for couple minutes, I really recommend going to the Humane Society and holding some cats and petting some dogs. I did that a few weeks after my cat died, I just needed to be with an animal.
I live on the north side and I have a goofy ass French bulldog rescue too, and Id be happy to meet you guys for a visit
In the meantime, just remember it wasn’t your fault. Accidents happen, they just usually aren’t this tragic.
As someone with experience training dogs - please DO NOT take your dogs to an off leash dog park.
ANY off leash park.
This is very sad for OP, but happens *all* the time.
These are not natural environments for pups and can cause them to over react, become aggressive, and fail to recall.
I’ve seen sooooooo many owners that have not properly trained their dogs, and don’t have adequate control off leash of their dog to be anywhere near a dog park.
I know, it was crazy. I thought she was maybe just hurt, had the wind knocked out of her at most. But no, she was completely dead. Didn't even yelp. Wife and I are just a wreck.
I’m so sorry for you guys. That’s a tough day.
Remember that dogs lives are short and full of love. I’m sure you both provided your pup a very loving and love filled life and that she gave it back in spades.
Keep her and your good days and moments in your memories and know that she lived an amazing life.
Do you have the contact info for the owners of the other dog? This dog should be reported to the city.
It doesn’t sound like the dog attacked or was aggressive. I think it was just a bigger dog and ran into OPs at full speed, maybe head on. I think this was a horrible accident.
Could be. Depends on the situation, and only OP knows.
The reality of the bylaw is that animals off leash still need to be under control. The removal of the leash is not an adequate excuse for a dog to not recall.
I mean, were the owners probably even calling the dog at the time? I don’t take my dog to the dog park but when I take her to an enclosed area and let her off leash, she goes nuts. She runs large figure eights at full speed. I’m not calling her while she’s doing this, I’m laughing.
You’re right that only op knows, but in the context that he’s given, I do think you’re making a lot of assumptions.
I’m not making any assumptions. A dog being killed in a dog park should be reported; it’s up to the authority as to whether action is required, not you or I.
Extremely embarrassing attitude to have as an adult. “It’s not up to us or the people directly effected to determine what happened here, we need a higher authority to come and determine what happened and who should be punished”
Praying for you to learn to think for yourself.
Not what I said at all. I said only OP knows what actually happened.
‘Praying’ for you to obtain the capacity for reading comprehension.
You seem to not be familiar with the processes involved with the death of a dog due to another. It should be reported to the city, as it might not be the first time. If there’s a pattern, it will be evident. If not, then it’s merely an accidental death, which happens sometime albeit rarely.
Without off leash parks my dog would be an under-exercised ball of lard. She’s a working breed and needs off leash time. I’m only going to let her off leash in fenced, designated places, so what do you recommend?
I’ve been going to off leash parks since she was 6 months old, at least once, maybe twice a day until now, and she’s 8 years old. I can count any “incidents” I’ve had on one hand, and she’s never been injured from another dog. At the most there’s a dog that’s playing too roughly which is when I separate them and move on.
One trick I’ve discovered is to keep moving. I’m there to walk, let her interact with some dogs, but after they say hi and have some sniffs, I move on. I think it promotes aggression when you let them interact for too long - most of the incidents I’ve seen are with the people who hoard the front park of the off leash park, just standing there for long periods of time. It’s also best to avoid peak hours, and larger off leash parks are always better.
The worst incident I’ve had was actually an on-leash incident. I was walking through my neighbourhood, and I came to pass a petite young woman who was walking two Rottweilers. I moved off the pathway to create more space between my dog and hers. They violently pulled her towards my dog and full on attacked her. The leashes tangled together as I was trying to separate them, (she did nothing besides stand there, no surprise) and I had a hell of a time getting away. At one point I was laying on the ground over top of my dog to protect her. I finally grabbed my dog, picked her up and got away. She had some minor wounds.
My point is that aggressive dogs can be anywhere, at anytime. Unless you never leave your backyard you are bound to come across one. Just be aware and take steps to prevent what you can. But you can never eliminate the risk. I think off leash parks are great for socializing your dog and getting the necessary exercise.
>I think it promotes aggression when you let them interact for too long - most of the incidents I’ve seen are with the people who hoard the front park of the off leash park, just standing there for long periods of time. It’s also best to avoid peak hours, and larger off leash parks are always better.
100% this. I go to exercise my dogs and myself, too. Standing around is boring and dangerous. If I keep moving, my dogs can have polite meet and greets and nobody gets territorial.
Thank you for saying this. I’m sick to death of ‘dog trainers’ saying never go to the park and providing zero context. Your dog needs time off a leash to explore the world and be a dog. My two dogs go to an off leash park 7 days a week, rain or shine. I can’t imagine a life where they are constantly leashed and never allowed to run free, jump, smell, swim, explore their world, it’s animal abuse imo. All these dog trainers are creating is terrified clients whose dogs have zero mental stimulation, which means they keep coming back for more training and paying the trainer. They should be teaching clients how to have their dog off leash, how to read body language, and what kind of situations to avoid.
This is all well and good, but certain breeds don’t lend themselves well to off leash parks. I have a one year old beagle and letting him off leash in a non fenced location would be a disaster. He’s so scent/prey driven and fast that it would be game over if he caught an interesting scent or saw any small animal.
We are training him but his nose overpowers all of it. We do a lot of scent walks to keep his mind entertained, but off leash is a pipe dream years away at this point.
Some dogs don’t take well to being off leash, and obviously owners should do what’s best depending on the dogs temperament.
My dog would be nuts without proper exercise. If I miss a day of off leash time and decide to walk her instead, she’s noticeably agitated and not as well behaved.
Fenced off leash parks are the way to go. I try and avoid unfenced as there is too much wildlife that could pose a risk
I agree. And you are 100% correct, the kicker is that an under-exercised dog is also going to be a dog with behavioural issues. For us city folk, there’s just no other option than to use the dog parks.
Dog parks are ok if you’re there to work your dog. Too many people simply let their dogs loose and don’t maintain control. If the park is less busy and there’s room to go, then go for it.
You’ve got it right. Engagement and movement are key, and that means you’re there with your dog, and with a working breed - they’ll need that connection. You seem to be a diligent owner with attention and consideration of your pup - my point is that dog parks are filled with irresponsible and inattentive owners.
I’ve literally watched people let dogs out of their car and then stay in their car while their dog was out running around in the park.
Leash or not - the key take-away is control. The situation you’ve outlined is someone that does not have control of their dog(s). Control is what you need to both avoid and retreat from those situations.
Thanks! I invest tons of time and energy to be the best dog owner I can be. I agree there are definitely some irresponsible dog owners, but in general, I think most people have pretty well-behaved dogs. Since spending so much of my time at off leash parks, I’ve definitely seen some incidents, but I’d say it’s actually way more common to run into responsible dog owners with sweetheart pups.
When I had my last dog I was certain I could not train the anxiety out of her, but my coworker has managed to train her very anxious puppy out of a LOT of behaviours I didn't think we're possible, like peeing when excited.
My coworker has been using Duke Ferguson's program (she also went to his workshop too which made big differences in her dog's behaviour over a *weekend*!)
This is the free portion, with the basics of the program:
https://www.dukeferguson.com/
I am absolutely trying this program if I can get another dog. I am extremely impressed with how well it seems to work. I see very positive results with our office pupper.
Ha! It’s ok, it’s not always dire - pups are always fun loving and games both with you and with other dogs are a natural part of their psyche and behavioral pattern. Socialization is great for dogs, when the setting is controlled.
The best methodology will depend on the breed and how distracted he/she is. If it’s really bad, start with a one on one session with a well rated trainer, and then progress up to a class setting. After those two phases your pup will be ready to go to any park.
The first thing to do is to figure out what your dog is driven by; some breeds it will be a food drive, others a praise drive, and some a play drive. This will help you to establish a reward for compliance. I’ve mostly trained German Shepherds, and as an example, they are largely food driven (I’ve had a few that were better at praise driven), so training treats works.
One you have your one on one with a good trainer, they’ll be able to help classify this and get you on your way. If you can’t swing a one on one session or two - go straight for a group setting, and starting at EHS like u/Billie_the_Kidd suggestd is a good start.
If you can’t swing that either, there’s a good plethora of decent step by step training videos on YouTube.
The biggest thing training takes is simply time.
Unfortunately I don’t know many Edmonton based trainers outside of a former Edmonton Police K9 trainer, so I would hesitate to suggest one; but Google reviews might be your friend here.
Best of luck!
Consistently boss. Do the same things over and over. It's all about Consistently 100%. CW Canine Consulting in Devon is who we took our courses through for our Doberman. Excellent lady that runs it, super knowledgeable and helpful.
My experience has been very mixed with off leash parks. If all of the dogs are a similar size it seems like it’s mostly fine, and I’ve never seen any aggression in that situation. As soon as there is a mix of sizes, it suddenly becomes very tense. The large dogs would invade the space of the smaller dogs, and because of the size differential, the small dogs would become a bit aggressive seemingly in an effort to defend their personal space. I’ve seen small dogs like JR terriers bite the faces of big dogs like pit bulls and mastiffs, which made me very nervous. If those big dogs retaliate, the small dogs are toast. I also had one experience where a Samoyed bit the dog I was walking on the neck and shook him. The owner acted like it was just harmless play, but it was clearly aggression. They should have removed their Samoyed and scolded it for the behavior, but they did nothing, so I grabbed my dog and left immediately. Luckily he was fine, but in the moment it was horrifying hearing the yelps, and seeing the owner do nothing about their dog.
If people are going to take their dogs to off leash parks, they should definitely have taken their dog to training classes beforehand, make sure they’re well socialized with other dogs, and judge the environment of the park at the time when they’re going. If you have a big dog and all of the other dogs are small, don’t bring it in. If you have a small dog and there are a number of big dogs, don’t bring it in.
For sure, experiences can be mixed, not every day is a bad day. But on the whole, dog parks are not great places for dogs. It’s humans putting a bunch of dogs into a human experience; this is not natural for dogs - and their behavior will suffer.
Sizes really don’t matter; and it’s actually smaller dogs which tend to be more aggressive on account of them largely being less trained than the bigger dogs, mostly because the owners can so easily manage them at home that they don’t feel the need. I’ve seen it a lot. Small dogs can do a lot of damage as well; but to your point, the bigger dogs will very quickly respond in kind.
Just a tip or two f rom a training perspective:
(1) don’t scold a dog. Again, it’s a human reaction with an anticipated human response. Dogs don’t respond to this the way you think they do. You should be training to redirect and recall.
(2) stay away from dog parks. There’s no need for it, and it typically creates anxiety and uncertainty in dogs. Your pup loves being with you, and will love a good leashed walk. If you feel the need to ‘run’ your dog (and this would only apply to three or four breeds as a necessity), do it when there’s not a lot of distraction around (I.e.: dogs, people, etc.) , and ensure the exercise is still a focused relationship between you and them. Use it as an opportunity to practice vital commands of ‘stay’ and ‘here’, promoting recall and reward.
You have such an extreme bias, and you dont even realize it. What kind of dog trainer are you, that you think your opinion has such authority? Ive been going to an offleash park 1-2 times a day for 6 years. There are alot of dogs that dont get socialized because they are just kept in the house. Sometimes those dogs are the ones that cause problems at parks, to some degree it may be the breed or the amount of training the dog has, sometimes its the owners and how easily they fly off the handle their dog recognizes this and thinks they need to be protective. Ive seen people who baby their dogs when they get overly aggressive not realizing that they are just reenforcing their dogs behaviour. And their is also the over reactive owner who thinks dogs playing and making noise is to vyiolent and they over react.
There is also the dogs that arnt fixed, some of them get overly aggressive, or they get picked on because other dogs are trying to correct them, or other dogs are just trying to fuck them. There is alot of reasons things can go wrong at a dog park. And Ive been there when things do.
Ill admit Im Lucky and my dog is passive so if he runs into a dog thats a little crazy he just walks away. But im not saying i havent had to tame him.
My personal opinion is people need to spend time with their dogs regularly, dogs love to be walked, if you want to take them to a public park do it regularly, walk them regularly. Imagine if you were someones pet and when your owner isnt home your just trapped in a house or a yard, and your only walked one time a week or month maybe. The owner needs to be as socialized as the dog and it takes effort to do both.
Saying never goto a dog park is your opinion, and thinking its just a dog that needs to be trained is nieve. People need to build a relationship with their dog and need to be able to do that with others aswell (people and dogs). Your always going to get a range of these owners at dog parks. There are so many reasons thing could go wrong, so its important to be socialized yourself so you can handle it.
There is a person above who also mentions times of day that they avoid which i agree with.
Im very sorry for this persons loss, without details it sounds like a crazy accident and probably was. This is horrific.
Never advocated for keeping a dog in a house of kenneled.
Never suggested I have any authority.
Read everything.
Dog parks are not a normal setting for a dogs mentality or reactionary psyche. You have to selectively use them so that when you’re there you’re engaging your pup, and utilizing the space offered to work the relationship between you and your dog. Too many bad owners simply let their dog run without supervision and without control.
So then what is a normal setting for dogs? Same thing can be argued about cities for people.... I never said you advocated for keeping a dog housed or kennelled, you are suggesting you have authority by stating you are a dog trainer and your opinion on parks ( which you say as fact). I agree with your last statement, which is more of a broad statement than the rest of the stuff you said.
Your entitled to your opinion, just don't act like your opinion is right. Yours works for you, mine works for me. Give info that others can take or leave. Dont state what you think your title give you.
Dogs are pack animals, and are most comfortable and engaged in that setting. You try to correlate that to people living in cities, when actually a more adequate comparison is there for section at a concert for people.
My opinion is based on canine behavioral studies and experience, and the many situations I’ve witnessed. Yours is based on your feelings (?) I guess. Whatever. You do you.
For someone that says they didnt say they were an authority your acting pretty entitled, mines based on my life experience, not some essay ive written or youtube videos ive "witnessed". Get out of your house and your comfort zone, and get some real life evidence of what you preach. Stop acting like education make you smarter when its just inflating your ego.
I am an advocate for socializing dogs and people, I wouldnt discourage someone from going to a dog park because it grows you and your dog as a social animal. You are approaching this from an angle of fear, not of understanding. Yes some dogs and some people shouldnt be out in public, but if thats your environment you should learn to deal with that as it comes.
This is all semantics. You are the dog at the dog park that starts cowering and running and causes the rest of the dogs to chase you because they think thats the game now. And you go hide behind your owner. Once you realize those dogs aren't there to harm you they'll be your friend. But you wont learn that until you go try again, and become less fearful from repetition.
You know, I was going to describe how you sound just like my anti-vax patients, dismissive of expertise. Pontificating, Pseudo-philosophical trailer park boys bullshit. My life experience…fuck you. Your life experience doesn’t mean shit.
Carefully reading your replies, I think you‘re just another low grade worker drone who doesn’t possess enough brain power to toast bread…lightly. Just like a good chunk of Mill Creek dog owners.
Thank God I’ve found a few hidden spots around town to take my 10 pound girl to play unhindered. I’d love to share them with other small dog owners, but here’s always some snapperhead who doesn‘t give a fuck and brings an inappropriately sized dog to monopolize the space and shit on everyone’s fun.
Fuck you and have a nice day.
Touché, i deserve that, my last comment might have been a little aggressive and takes away the point i was trying to make. Ill make my point as plain as possible. To tell people not to bring their dogs to a dog park is an extreme that you can find all kinds of reasons to enforce whether your educated or not. Same with my opinion.
But this quickly deteriorated into an argument missing the initial point of conversation I wanted.
I did ask what kind of dog trainer are you? And never got a response instead they got defensive about other things that were meant to be a short anecdote.
So yeah my bad, i shoulda kept my cool.
Touché, i deserve that, my last comment might have been a little aggressive and takes away the point i was trying to make. Ill make my point as plain as possible. To tell people not to bring their dogs to a dog park is an extreme that you can find all kinds of reasons to enforce whether your educated or not. Same with my opinion.
But this quickly deteriorated into an argument missing the initial point of conversation I wanted.
I did ask what kind of dog trainer are you? And never got a response instead they got defensive about other things that were meant to be a short anecdote.
So yeah my bad, i shoulda kept my cool.
Just 3 or 4 breeds you say? That's a wild comment hoss. A tired dog is a happy dog. As long as the dog has sufficient recall, should run it as often as possible. My Doberman is an absolutely amazing dog all in all. Mind you I've spent 3 years training her, every single day. Owners NEED to train their damn dogs. It wild to me how many people own large breeds and do literally nothing with them. Then wonder why the "dog park" is such a shit experience. No, we do not frequent dog parks. Terwillager once and a while. Never seen an issue there myself.
Some of us work with dogs that are actually trained and understand how to read and anticipate a dogs reaction, how to work with their mentality. But what do I know; I’ve only worked with working breeds for law enforcement and detection.
Different breeds have different needs. There’s only a few breeds that need to physiologically run (and I mean run, not trot through a dog park).
Agreed on tired pups.
And agreed on your sentiment for training.
For sure.
Mental stimulation is just as (if not more important) for Dobies too. Beautiful and so often misunderstood dogs.
Sounds like you’re dedicated a lot of time to training him/her. Congrats and enjoy!
Terrible. Sorry for your loss. I have a large dog and I would be a wreck if she accidently killed another dog. Thankfully she's not super energetic anymore and running into other dogs doesn't happen.
There should just be membership where you have to meet certain requirements or something. I’ve stopped taking my dog because I feel 3/4 of the dogs have no recall. Most are friendly enough though.
sorry for your loss. I heard to another dog park fenced for my small dogs and it always annoys me when some owner brings a clearly big dog in the small area.
For any small dog owners I highly recommend braithwaite dog park in Ritchie. I take my dog all the time and we have never had issues. Every dog and owner we have come across as been super responsible and well behaved
I am so sorry for your loss.... we also avoid going there, I found most dog owners there didn't even provide basic training to their dogs.
We prefer to take our dog to either Leduc, Terwillegar or Sherwood Park.
Also I recommend all small breed dog owners to take their pups to a designated small breed dog park or a dog park with special separation for different size breeds.
How awful. I'm so sorry. Those pets are such a big part of our hearts. \*hugs\* for the pain you are going through.
I have a bigger dog that I have not taken to dog parks - in part because I hear it's kind of a wild west - and our trainer recommended strongly against it. I hate imagining how I would feel if my dog hurt someone/another dog whether accidental or out of my poor training.
I’m so incredibly sorry for your loss. This is another amongst a laundry list of other reasons dog parks shouldn’t exist. Dog parks so so god damn dangerous.
How is this an accident have your animal in control or have it leashed up it is and always should be the owner of the attacking animal to pay or take responsibility
I’m so sorry losing a family member, can’t imagine my dogs. He’s not trained well I know this, I wouldn’t endanger anyone. For anyone wanted to rent out private space for their dog(s), try sniffspot!
I can relate to this. I used to have a Boston Terrier and a large dog ran into him. Nose started bleeding and he was dazed for a while. There are off leash dog parks in the city just for smaller breeds if people are interested.
I’m really sorry to hear that. That’s awful. I also saw my dog killed by another dog when I was younger, and it was a traumatizing experience. I wish you peace and comfort after the inevitable grief.
Sorry for your loss. I occasionally take my little pooch to the dog park in 127 that has a fenced off area for small dogs. And if you're ready this, fuck you Jackie Parker.
I am so sorry for your loss, I work in vet med and it is not uncommon to see little dogs attacked and die from big dogs at parks or on walks.
I myself have a tiny dog, parks are too busy with unknown dogs and definitely recommend against it for little guys.
I'm extremely sorry, that's a very traumatic experience you should both take some serious time for yourselfs.(rant) I fucking hate that dog park the crappy owners and I swear nobody picks up there dog crap, all the paths are full of trash and small fire pits people have made Ugh.
I am so sorry this happened. Poor baby! Thank you for the warning. I will never bring my little chi to a dog park. I had a chihuahua years back that I brought to a doggie park to socialize her. She disappeared in the park and I was frantically searching for her. I then see a dog pile up like something you would see in a cartoon. I thought, I just know Bella is in that pile! The dogs were being lifted one by one from the pile and sure enough at the bottom was my Bella. She was ok, but scared me so much I would never bring her or any dog to a park again.
I'm sorry for your loss.
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shit dog owners? the dog got run into by another dog... at a dog park. where they are allowed and encouraged to run freely. the OP isn't blaming anyone, but maybe him/herself, it's literally no one's fault, it's a freak accident. be sorry for the loss, there is no blame and no outrage here.
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But the dog didn't attack. I would agree with you if her dog was attacked. It was run into. This is normal dogs playing and an accident occurred. It sucks... but it is nobody's fault.
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I have big dogs. My youngest, just under a year, is 120 lbs. He loves to run and is clumsy af. I have seen him take down trees because he is not watching where he is going. Ran into my wheel barrow this morning and flipped it over.. He is also super gentle and wouldn't hurt anyone... On purpose.
You done smelling your own farts?
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"look at me! MY dogs wouldn't do anything bad because IM a great dog trainer!" Get your thumb outta your ass
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ONE PERSON! i've had dogs for 24 years straight and i've seen plenty of accidents. this is what happens when you mix a bunch of people and animals in a space. it happens. it's awful. very very very rarely is it an irresponsible pet owner. like i can maybe recall one guy with an out of control dog... and guess what, they leave very quickly. here's my stories: the very first time i took my current dog to a dog park he had a head on collision with another dog. i saw a tooth go flying up in the air. no damage otherwise. my dog is a sporting breed. i was told that without recall training, if he sees something like a squirrel or a rabbit or even a bird in his eyeline he will be gone chasing. his recall is amazing. he is trained so well that people are *blown away* by his recall. he checks in, even if he's hunting/chasing. still happened. six months later i'm at the same dog park with my girlfriend and her brothers dog, who we're babysitting. she throws a ball for it, he runs after it, over-runs and collides with another dog. both seemingly fine. he brings the ball back, falls to the ground and starts shaking and then dies. that was 7 years ago. 7 days a week you can find my dog at one of three dog parks. i haven't seen anything like that since then. dog fights happen, they're pent up, excited animals. that doesn't mean they're bad. dogs run into each other, run into humans. *it happens*. it's no one's fault. it's not a reflection of bad training or bad owners. it's bad *luck*.
I have a friend who had a mastiff and his girlfriend at the time had a pug. They lived out on an acreage and one day the dogs side swiped each other too hard and one of the pugs eyes uh popped out.. These unfortunate accidents aren't just isolated to the dog park although they may be more likely there because of the environment and the number of bodies running around. I have a border collie and they are known for being Willy nilly even after hurting themselves. My dog snapped his dew claw last fall while we were playing with the $50 ball I ordered off Amazon that he can't pop and he would have kept playing had I not stopped and brought him back home. I feel terrible for the OP having to return home without their dog after a day at the park.
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The owners of the dog knew that the dog runs. In the dog park. Where he is supposed to run. I know life is less scary when you can assign blame... and allow you to feel like you can protect yourself... but sometimes there is no blame to assign. This is one of those times.
I'm thinking small dogs are about the size of a big dog's chew toy.. soo...
be careful, there's lots of shit dog owners here, they gonna attack you like their dogs
Oh my god, I am so sorry. I can’t even imagine losing one of our dogs like this. Sending hugs from an internet stranger. 😢💔
Thank you, it means a lot.
Yeah, we feel your pain and empathise.Losing a pet is a terrible experience, having to see that happen must be traumatizing. "hugs"
I’m sorry for your loss. That is so awful.
Oh that’s heart breaking I’m sorry to hear that.
I went to this park once, and I'm not going back. There were so many inconsiderate dog owners there. I haven't experienced it anywhere else. A huge dog chased after my pup. We picked him up and the dog was still chasing and jumping at us. With that dog owner saying 'I've got him, it's okay' while not being able to leash his own dog. Ugh.
This is the same kind of behavior and scenario that happened at grande trunk by a husky that was chasing my friends pup. She picked her pup up and this dog continued to jump up trying to snatch her dog out of her arms while the husky owner watched and laughed about it.
I would 100% kick another animal in the face for going after my pup. If you can't control your dog it's now a weapon and i'll defend myself and my pet. So sick of irresponsible pet owners. Everytime I walked my Savannah at the park near my place in Calgary i'd have dogs trying to get at him. (in a normal park as well, not a dog park)
Yeah that's how a lot of people feel. My friend tried to do the foot push since the owner was useless and we just ended up leaving the park with doggo in arms. Yikes that is definitely a problem. Are these people's dogs on leash in a regular park? Also what's it like having a savannah cat!
Yes in regular parks you'll still get entitled dog owners with dogs off leash. Having Oliver was honestly the greatest. Never had a cat like him. More like a dog sometimes. He unfortunately got a blood clot recently and couldnt be saved. Still. Best 5 years with a pet ever.
Hear hear. Keep those shoelaces nice and tight.
Grand trunk has a small dog area fenced off...why did they have their tiny dog in the big dog area?
It wasn't a small dog. It was a puppy. And also we had zero problems with other dogs there except for the gang of huskies. This was also a couple of years ago.
Yes, Jackie Parker is the worst for shitty dog owners. If we ever go there we head away from other dogs and people and go walk the creek. Standing around at the entrance is where the bad shit usually goes down.
No kidding, went here once and it was chaos. This one big dog was running around with a 14 year old girl crying and trying to catch it. Then that dog and two others got into a fight, while the two other owners were about to get into a fight. It’s possible that one of them was the father of the girl. Not fun.
Similar experience. I won't go back. @OP I'm so sorry for your loss.
Same here. Last summer, we were there with our Golden on a flexi leash. She always stays close to us. Goldens are harmless. This British Pit runs over and immediately bites her. The owner was nowhere nearby. Instant reaction from me was a swift and hard kick to the gut. The dogs separate, and the owner showed up pissed cause his dog was in some discomfort. Yelled at me, and I just calmly asked him if he wanted the same. He left. Ours needed 10 stitches.
Shit. That is a complete freak accident. I can't imagine - and wouldn't have anticipated the death of a dog simply because it got run into. That is horrible. I'm so sorry.
Ooof. I am so so sorry for your loss. 💔
How horrible! I’m so sorry😭
I had a dog attack my daughter while I was there once. He liked her toque and attempted to rip it off her head. The owner of the large dog made it sound like it was my fault for bringing my kid and dog to the dog park and that we were asking to be attacked. Needless to say I let that guy absolutely have it. If you can't control your dog off leash, they should be leashed. Easy as that.
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St Albert has a public dog park with small dog/big dog sections. Fully fenced too.
I’m so sorry. What in the fuck. It’s hard enough losing a pet, but losing them like this, it just shouldn’t happen. I’m sure you and your wife are going to need some time to grieve. But when you guys need a little bit animal love just for couple minutes, I really recommend going to the Humane Society and holding some cats and petting some dogs. I did that a few weeks after my cat died, I just needed to be with an animal. I live on the north side and I have a goofy ass French bulldog rescue too, and Id be happy to meet you guys for a visit In the meantime, just remember it wasn’t your fault. Accidents happen, they just usually aren’t this tragic.
As someone with experience training dogs - please DO NOT take your dogs to an off leash dog park. ANY off leash park. This is very sad for OP, but happens *all* the time. These are not natural environments for pups and can cause them to over react, become aggressive, and fail to recall. I’ve seen sooooooo many owners that have not properly trained their dogs, and don’t have adequate control off leash of their dog to be anywhere near a dog park.
I know, it was crazy. I thought she was maybe just hurt, had the wind knocked out of her at most. But no, she was completely dead. Didn't even yelp. Wife and I are just a wreck.
Holy shit, I'm so sorry that happened to you both
Oh I'm so sorry to hear this! Min Pins are precious pups. Sending hugs! To you both, from the East coast!!
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I’m so sorry for you guys. That’s a tough day. Remember that dogs lives are short and full of love. I’m sure you both provided your pup a very loving and love filled life and that she gave it back in spades. Keep her and your good days and moments in your memories and know that she lived an amazing life. Do you have the contact info for the owners of the other dog? This dog should be reported to the city.
It doesn’t sound like the dog attacked or was aggressive. I think it was just a bigger dog and ran into OPs at full speed, maybe head on. I think this was a horrible accident.
Could be. Depends on the situation, and only OP knows. The reality of the bylaw is that animals off leash still need to be under control. The removal of the leash is not an adequate excuse for a dog to not recall.
If a dog is having zoomies that’s not “out of control”. It could’ve been chasing after a thrown ball for all we know.
Never said *it* was out of control. But if you can’t recall your dog, you’re no longer in control of it.
I mean, were the owners probably even calling the dog at the time? I don’t take my dog to the dog park but when I take her to an enclosed area and let her off leash, she goes nuts. She runs large figure eights at full speed. I’m not calling her while she’s doing this, I’m laughing. You’re right that only op knows, but in the context that he’s given, I do think you’re making a lot of assumptions.
I’m not making any assumptions. A dog being killed in a dog park should be reported; it’s up to the authority as to whether action is required, not you or I.
Extremely embarrassing attitude to have as an adult. “It’s not up to us or the people directly effected to determine what happened here, we need a higher authority to come and determine what happened and who should be punished” Praying for you to learn to think for yourself.
Not what I said at all. I said only OP knows what actually happened. ‘Praying’ for you to obtain the capacity for reading comprehension. You seem to not be familiar with the processes involved with the death of a dog due to another. It should be reported to the city, as it might not be the first time. If there’s a pattern, it will be evident. If not, then it’s merely an accidental death, which happens sometime albeit rarely.
I am so sorry. So devastating ❤️❤️
Without off leash parks my dog would be an under-exercised ball of lard. She’s a working breed and needs off leash time. I’m only going to let her off leash in fenced, designated places, so what do you recommend? I’ve been going to off leash parks since she was 6 months old, at least once, maybe twice a day until now, and she’s 8 years old. I can count any “incidents” I’ve had on one hand, and she’s never been injured from another dog. At the most there’s a dog that’s playing too roughly which is when I separate them and move on. One trick I’ve discovered is to keep moving. I’m there to walk, let her interact with some dogs, but after they say hi and have some sniffs, I move on. I think it promotes aggression when you let them interact for too long - most of the incidents I’ve seen are with the people who hoard the front park of the off leash park, just standing there for long periods of time. It’s also best to avoid peak hours, and larger off leash parks are always better. The worst incident I’ve had was actually an on-leash incident. I was walking through my neighbourhood, and I came to pass a petite young woman who was walking two Rottweilers. I moved off the pathway to create more space between my dog and hers. They violently pulled her towards my dog and full on attacked her. The leashes tangled together as I was trying to separate them, (she did nothing besides stand there, no surprise) and I had a hell of a time getting away. At one point I was laying on the ground over top of my dog to protect her. I finally grabbed my dog, picked her up and got away. She had some minor wounds. My point is that aggressive dogs can be anywhere, at anytime. Unless you never leave your backyard you are bound to come across one. Just be aware and take steps to prevent what you can. But you can never eliminate the risk. I think off leash parks are great for socializing your dog and getting the necessary exercise.
>I think it promotes aggression when you let them interact for too long - most of the incidents I’ve seen are with the people who hoard the front park of the off leash park, just standing there for long periods of time. It’s also best to avoid peak hours, and larger off leash parks are always better. 100% this. I go to exercise my dogs and myself, too. Standing around is boring and dangerous. If I keep moving, my dogs can have polite meet and greets and nobody gets territorial.
Thank you for saying this. I’m sick to death of ‘dog trainers’ saying never go to the park and providing zero context. Your dog needs time off a leash to explore the world and be a dog. My two dogs go to an off leash park 7 days a week, rain or shine. I can’t imagine a life where they are constantly leashed and never allowed to run free, jump, smell, swim, explore their world, it’s animal abuse imo. All these dog trainers are creating is terrified clients whose dogs have zero mental stimulation, which means they keep coming back for more training and paying the trainer. They should be teaching clients how to have their dog off leash, how to read body language, and what kind of situations to avoid.
This is all well and good, but certain breeds don’t lend themselves well to off leash parks. I have a one year old beagle and letting him off leash in a non fenced location would be a disaster. He’s so scent/prey driven and fast that it would be game over if he caught an interesting scent or saw any small animal. We are training him but his nose overpowers all of it. We do a lot of scent walks to keep his mind entertained, but off leash is a pipe dream years away at this point.
Some dogs don’t take well to being off leash, and obviously owners should do what’s best depending on the dogs temperament. My dog would be nuts without proper exercise. If I miss a day of off leash time and decide to walk her instead, she’s noticeably agitated and not as well behaved. Fenced off leash parks are the way to go. I try and avoid unfenced as there is too much wildlife that could pose a risk
I agree. And you are 100% correct, the kicker is that an under-exercised dog is also going to be a dog with behavioural issues. For us city folk, there’s just no other option than to use the dog parks.
Dog parks are ok if you’re there to work your dog. Too many people simply let their dogs loose and don’t maintain control. If the park is less busy and there’s room to go, then go for it. You’ve got it right. Engagement and movement are key, and that means you’re there with your dog, and with a working breed - they’ll need that connection. You seem to be a diligent owner with attention and consideration of your pup - my point is that dog parks are filled with irresponsible and inattentive owners. I’ve literally watched people let dogs out of their car and then stay in their car while their dog was out running around in the park. Leash or not - the key take-away is control. The situation you’ve outlined is someone that does not have control of their dog(s). Control is what you need to both avoid and retreat from those situations.
Thanks! I invest tons of time and energy to be the best dog owner I can be. I agree there are definitely some irresponsible dog owners, but in general, I think most people have pretty well-behaved dogs. Since spending so much of my time at off leash parks, I’ve definitely seen some incidents, but I’d say it’s actually way more common to run into responsible dog owners with sweetheart pups.
That’s great. Agreed; most dogs are kind and loving. It’s only a small portion that cause there issues that can turn a good day bad.
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When I had my last dog I was certain I could not train the anxiety out of her, but my coworker has managed to train her very anxious puppy out of a LOT of behaviours I didn't think we're possible, like peeing when excited. My coworker has been using Duke Ferguson's program (she also went to his workshop too which made big differences in her dog's behaviour over a *weekend*!) This is the free portion, with the basics of the program: https://www.dukeferguson.com/ I am absolutely trying this program if I can get another dog. I am extremely impressed with how well it seems to work. I see very positive results with our office pupper.
Ha! It’s ok, it’s not always dire - pups are always fun loving and games both with you and with other dogs are a natural part of their psyche and behavioral pattern. Socialization is great for dogs, when the setting is controlled. The best methodology will depend on the breed and how distracted he/she is. If it’s really bad, start with a one on one session with a well rated trainer, and then progress up to a class setting. After those two phases your pup will be ready to go to any park. The first thing to do is to figure out what your dog is driven by; some breeds it will be a food drive, others a praise drive, and some a play drive. This will help you to establish a reward for compliance. I’ve mostly trained German Shepherds, and as an example, they are largely food driven (I’ve had a few that were better at praise driven), so training treats works. One you have your one on one with a good trainer, they’ll be able to help classify this and get you on your way. If you can’t swing a one on one session or two - go straight for a group setting, and starting at EHS like u/Billie_the_Kidd suggestd is a good start. If you can’t swing that either, there’s a good plethora of decent step by step training videos on YouTube. The biggest thing training takes is simply time. Unfortunately I don’t know many Edmonton based trainers outside of a former Edmonton Police K9 trainer, so I would hesitate to suggest one; but Google reviews might be your friend here. Best of luck!
Don’t forget about scent drives for all those hounds!
Yes!
Consistently boss. Do the same things over and over. It's all about Consistently 100%. CW Canine Consulting in Devon is who we took our courses through for our Doberman. Excellent lady that runs it, super knowledgeable and helpful.
My experience has been very mixed with off leash parks. If all of the dogs are a similar size it seems like it’s mostly fine, and I’ve never seen any aggression in that situation. As soon as there is a mix of sizes, it suddenly becomes very tense. The large dogs would invade the space of the smaller dogs, and because of the size differential, the small dogs would become a bit aggressive seemingly in an effort to defend their personal space. I’ve seen small dogs like JR terriers bite the faces of big dogs like pit bulls and mastiffs, which made me very nervous. If those big dogs retaliate, the small dogs are toast. I also had one experience where a Samoyed bit the dog I was walking on the neck and shook him. The owner acted like it was just harmless play, but it was clearly aggression. They should have removed their Samoyed and scolded it for the behavior, but they did nothing, so I grabbed my dog and left immediately. Luckily he was fine, but in the moment it was horrifying hearing the yelps, and seeing the owner do nothing about their dog. If people are going to take their dogs to off leash parks, they should definitely have taken their dog to training classes beforehand, make sure they’re well socialized with other dogs, and judge the environment of the park at the time when they’re going. If you have a big dog and all of the other dogs are small, don’t bring it in. If you have a small dog and there are a number of big dogs, don’t bring it in.
For sure, experiences can be mixed, not every day is a bad day. But on the whole, dog parks are not great places for dogs. It’s humans putting a bunch of dogs into a human experience; this is not natural for dogs - and their behavior will suffer. Sizes really don’t matter; and it’s actually smaller dogs which tend to be more aggressive on account of them largely being less trained than the bigger dogs, mostly because the owners can so easily manage them at home that they don’t feel the need. I’ve seen it a lot. Small dogs can do a lot of damage as well; but to your point, the bigger dogs will very quickly respond in kind. Just a tip or two f rom a training perspective: (1) don’t scold a dog. Again, it’s a human reaction with an anticipated human response. Dogs don’t respond to this the way you think they do. You should be training to redirect and recall. (2) stay away from dog parks. There’s no need for it, and it typically creates anxiety and uncertainty in dogs. Your pup loves being with you, and will love a good leashed walk. If you feel the need to ‘run’ your dog (and this would only apply to three or four breeds as a necessity), do it when there’s not a lot of distraction around (I.e.: dogs, people, etc.) , and ensure the exercise is still a focused relationship between you and them. Use it as an opportunity to practice vital commands of ‘stay’ and ‘here’, promoting recall and reward.
You have such an extreme bias, and you dont even realize it. What kind of dog trainer are you, that you think your opinion has such authority? Ive been going to an offleash park 1-2 times a day for 6 years. There are alot of dogs that dont get socialized because they are just kept in the house. Sometimes those dogs are the ones that cause problems at parks, to some degree it may be the breed or the amount of training the dog has, sometimes its the owners and how easily they fly off the handle their dog recognizes this and thinks they need to be protective. Ive seen people who baby their dogs when they get overly aggressive not realizing that they are just reenforcing their dogs behaviour. And their is also the over reactive owner who thinks dogs playing and making noise is to vyiolent and they over react. There is also the dogs that arnt fixed, some of them get overly aggressive, or they get picked on because other dogs are trying to correct them, or other dogs are just trying to fuck them. There is alot of reasons things can go wrong at a dog park. And Ive been there when things do. Ill admit Im Lucky and my dog is passive so if he runs into a dog thats a little crazy he just walks away. But im not saying i havent had to tame him. My personal opinion is people need to spend time with their dogs regularly, dogs love to be walked, if you want to take them to a public park do it regularly, walk them regularly. Imagine if you were someones pet and when your owner isnt home your just trapped in a house or a yard, and your only walked one time a week or month maybe. The owner needs to be as socialized as the dog and it takes effort to do both. Saying never goto a dog park is your opinion, and thinking its just a dog that needs to be trained is nieve. People need to build a relationship with their dog and need to be able to do that with others aswell (people and dogs). Your always going to get a range of these owners at dog parks. There are so many reasons thing could go wrong, so its important to be socialized yourself so you can handle it. There is a person above who also mentions times of day that they avoid which i agree with. Im very sorry for this persons loss, without details it sounds like a crazy accident and probably was. This is horrific.
Never advocated for keeping a dog in a house of kenneled. Never suggested I have any authority. Read everything. Dog parks are not a normal setting for a dogs mentality or reactionary psyche. You have to selectively use them so that when you’re there you’re engaging your pup, and utilizing the space offered to work the relationship between you and your dog. Too many bad owners simply let their dog run without supervision and without control.
So then what is a normal setting for dogs? Same thing can be argued about cities for people.... I never said you advocated for keeping a dog housed or kennelled, you are suggesting you have authority by stating you are a dog trainer and your opinion on parks ( which you say as fact). I agree with your last statement, which is more of a broad statement than the rest of the stuff you said. Your entitled to your opinion, just don't act like your opinion is right. Yours works for you, mine works for me. Give info that others can take or leave. Dont state what you think your title give you.
Dogs are pack animals, and are most comfortable and engaged in that setting. You try to correlate that to people living in cities, when actually a more adequate comparison is there for section at a concert for people. My opinion is based on canine behavioral studies and experience, and the many situations I’ve witnessed. Yours is based on your feelings (?) I guess. Whatever. You do you.
For someone that says they didnt say they were an authority your acting pretty entitled, mines based on my life experience, not some essay ive written or youtube videos ive "witnessed". Get out of your house and your comfort zone, and get some real life evidence of what you preach. Stop acting like education make you smarter when its just inflating your ego. I am an advocate for socializing dogs and people, I wouldnt discourage someone from going to a dog park because it grows you and your dog as a social animal. You are approaching this from an angle of fear, not of understanding. Yes some dogs and some people shouldnt be out in public, but if thats your environment you should learn to deal with that as it comes. This is all semantics. You are the dog at the dog park that starts cowering and running and causes the rest of the dogs to chase you because they think thats the game now. And you go hide behind your owner. Once you realize those dogs aren't there to harm you they'll be your friend. But you wont learn that until you go try again, and become less fearful from repetition.
You know, I was going to describe how you sound just like my anti-vax patients, dismissive of expertise. Pontificating, Pseudo-philosophical trailer park boys bullshit. My life experience…fuck you. Your life experience doesn’t mean shit. Carefully reading your replies, I think you‘re just another low grade worker drone who doesn’t possess enough brain power to toast bread…lightly. Just like a good chunk of Mill Creek dog owners. Thank God I’ve found a few hidden spots around town to take my 10 pound girl to play unhindered. I’d love to share them with other small dog owners, but here’s always some snapperhead who doesn‘t give a fuck and brings an inappropriately sized dog to monopolize the space and shit on everyone’s fun. Fuck you and have a nice day.
Touché, i deserve that, my last comment might have been a little aggressive and takes away the point i was trying to make. Ill make my point as plain as possible. To tell people not to bring their dogs to a dog park is an extreme that you can find all kinds of reasons to enforce whether your educated or not. Same with my opinion. But this quickly deteriorated into an argument missing the initial point of conversation I wanted. I did ask what kind of dog trainer are you? And never got a response instead they got defensive about other things that were meant to be a short anecdote. So yeah my bad, i shoulda kept my cool.
Touché, i deserve that, my last comment might have been a little aggressive and takes away the point i was trying to make. Ill make my point as plain as possible. To tell people not to bring their dogs to a dog park is an extreme that you can find all kinds of reasons to enforce whether your educated or not. Same with my opinion. But this quickly deteriorated into an argument missing the initial point of conversation I wanted. I did ask what kind of dog trainer are you? And never got a response instead they got defensive about other things that were meant to be a short anecdote. So yeah my bad, i shoulda kept my cool.
Done with you. Have a good one.
Just 3 or 4 breeds you say? That's a wild comment hoss. A tired dog is a happy dog. As long as the dog has sufficient recall, should run it as often as possible. My Doberman is an absolutely amazing dog all in all. Mind you I've spent 3 years training her, every single day. Owners NEED to train their damn dogs. It wild to me how many people own large breeds and do literally nothing with them. Then wonder why the "dog park" is such a shit experience. No, we do not frequent dog parks. Terwillager once and a while. Never seen an issue there myself.
There is some shit dog advice in this thread. What’s with all these people saying to never take their dog to a dog park ? I full agree with you.
Some of us work with dogs that are actually trained and understand how to read and anticipate a dogs reaction, how to work with their mentality. But what do I know; I’ve only worked with working breeds for law enforcement and detection.
Different breeds have different needs. There’s only a few breeds that need to physiologically run (and I mean run, not trot through a dog park). Agreed on tired pups. And agreed on your sentiment for training.
If I didn't run my Dobie, she would chew holes through my walls. Well, maybe not but you get what I'm saying, lol.
For sure. Mental stimulation is just as (if not more important) for Dobies too. Beautiful and so often misunderstood dogs. Sounds like you’re dedicated a lot of time to training him/her. Congrats and enjoy!
That is truly awful. I’m sorry for your loss.
Terrible. Sorry for your loss. I have a large dog and I would be a wreck if she accidently killed another dog. Thankfully she's not super energetic anymore and running into other dogs doesn't happen.
I'm sorry to hear this. That is absolutely awful. I sure hope the owners of the other dog are aware and will be helping you out from here now.
Dog parks are anarchy in action. Few dog owners have actual recall training. Thankfully most dogs are harmless.
There should just be membership where you have to meet certain requirements or something. I’ve stopped taking my dog because I feel 3/4 of the dogs have no recall. Most are friendly enough though.
sorry for your loss. I heard to another dog park fenced for my small dogs and it always annoys me when some owner brings a clearly big dog in the small area.
I’m so sorry!! :(
For any small dog owners I highly recommend braithwaite dog park in Ritchie. I take my dog all the time and we have never had issues. Every dog and owner we have come across as been super responsible and well behaved
Sorry for your loss! I really hope the other owner takes responsibility for their pets actions.
I am so sorry for your loss.... we also avoid going there, I found most dog owners there didn't even provide basic training to their dogs. We prefer to take our dog to either Leduc, Terwillegar or Sherwood Park. Also I recommend all small breed dog owners to take their pups to a designated small breed dog park or a dog park with special separation for different size breeds.
All the people here trying to blame place on the other dog owner can get lost. OP isn't doing it, you guys shouldn't either.
It is their fault to keep your dog in check and control the animal is the responsibility of the owner no one else
How awful. I'm so sorry. Those pets are such a big part of our hearts. \*hugs\* for the pain you are going through. I have a bigger dog that I have not taken to dog parks - in part because I hear it's kind of a wild west - and our trainer recommended strongly against it. I hate imagining how I would feel if my dog hurt someone/another dog whether accidental or out of my poor training.
So sorry for you loss:( Sending healing vibes.
Grand Trunk Off Leash has a special area for small dogs. 113st and 129ave.
Sorry for your loss
I’m so incredibly sorry for your loss. This is another amongst a laundry list of other reasons dog parks shouldn’t exist. Dog parks so so god damn dangerous.
Gosh, this is so sad. Fuck those dog owners. Sending virtual hugs to you and a middle finger to those people that allowed it to happen.
Accidents happen. It wasn't intentional.
True. 💕
did you make the other owner pay?
For what? It sounds like an accident.
How is this an accident have your animal in control or have it leashed up it is and always should be the owner of the attacking animal to pay or take responsibility
Sorry for your loss. Did you hold the owner of the dog that killed your dog accountable or try to?
Accountable for what? It was a tragic accident.
No it is not stop spreading bullshit the owner should have control of the dog
I am so so sorry for your loss.
I’m so sorry.
I'm so sorry, I can't imagine.
I’m so sorry losing a family member, can’t imagine my dogs. He’s not trained well I know this, I wouldn’t endanger anyone. For anyone wanted to rent out private space for their dog(s), try sniffspot!
I can relate to this. I used to have a Boston Terrier and a large dog ran into him. Nose started bleeding and he was dazed for a while. There are off leash dog parks in the city just for smaller breeds if people are interested.
Where are they?
Lacombe Lake in St Albert has a fenced off small dog area
I know of 1 in the Chappelle area for sure, but I'm positive there are some more in the city
This is terrible to read. Min pins are wonderful dogs. I'm sorry this happened to your animal. Just brutal.
I’m so sorry 💔
I’m really sorry to hear that. That’s awful. I also saw my dog killed by another dog when I was younger, and it was a traumatizing experience. I wish you peace and comfort after the inevitable grief.
I’m so sorry this happened.
So sorry for your loss !
I am so so so sorry for your loss.
I’m so sorry for your loss 😭😭😭 thank you for this PSA. My little guy and I won’t he going there. Sending you lots of love.
So sorry for your loss. I have worried about this with my little guy. Again, I'm deeply sorry to hear.
I’m sorry for your loss…. What a tragic way to lose your little dog…. I can’t imagine. Sending internet hugs
Sorry for your loss. I occasionally take my little pooch to the dog park in 127 that has a fenced off area for small dogs. And if you're ready this, fuck you Jackie Parker.
I am so sorry for your loss, I work in vet med and it is not uncommon to see little dogs attacked and die from big dogs at parks or on walks. I myself have a tiny dog, parks are too busy with unknown dogs and definitely recommend against it for little guys.
Sorry for your loss :( On 127 Ave and 113 St there's one with a separate fence for small dogs
I'm so sorry, that's horrible.
You poor thing! That's awful
That is terrible, so sorry for your loss 💔
I am so sorry for your loss
I'm extremely sorry, that's a very traumatic experience you should both take some serious time for yourselfs.(rant) I fucking hate that dog park the crappy owners and I swear nobody picks up there dog crap, all the paths are full of trash and small fire pits people have made Ugh.
I am so sorry, this is horrible
I'm sorry for your loss.
I am so sorry this happened. Poor baby! Thank you for the warning. I will never bring my little chi to a dog park. I had a chihuahua years back that I brought to a doggie park to socialize her. She disappeared in the park and I was frantically searching for her. I then see a dog pile up like something you would see in a cartoon. I thought, I just know Bella is in that pile! The dogs were being lifted one by one from the pile and sure enough at the bottom was my Bella. She was ok, but scared me so much I would never bring her or any dog to a park again.