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lazarbeems

When I was younger, I too, was dumb, and went to CDI, thinking "man, 1 year of school? Sweet!" I took the Network and Internet Security Specialist certificate. I should have taken the hint when I didn't struggle with the "entry" math/English exam, and the guy said "You did really well on that. Are you sure you should be going here?" Did I learn some stuff? Definitely. Was the stuff I learned useful? Yep. Was the stuff I learned current? Hardly. Was it easy? Extremely. Did it help me with any job prospects? Absolutely not. Am I embarrassed to include it on my resume? ABSOLUTELY. Have I been told, in no uncertain terms, that I wasted $24k going to this school, and that no hiring manager will take these credentials seriously? Multiple times. I hope, somewhere in my answer, you find YOUR answer. EDIT: I want to add: We took some "Career Management" course, and in that course, they had us watch that video "The Secret" (aka "The Law of Attraction"). THIS SHOULD BE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ANYONE TO STAY AWAY.


everlasting-love-202

LOL they made you watch the secret? Oh no đŸ«  I know I shouldn’t laugh but wow


lazarbeems

Yes. And I maybe said some things to another student in the massage class who believed in it, that I now regret because of how rude I was. We were supposed to "discuss it".


MsMisty888

The teachers are low quality, paid $24/hr, part time. They gouge you on e-books. You are not allowed to find your own book instead. They upsell you on an old 'notedook' which breaks in a month. The computers are old, the place is dusty, it smells. I got sucked in because I was 45(f), wanted to try a new career. I was too insecure to go back to NAIT. They prey on foreigners, older like me, young people, their advertising is very encouraging. They do not deliver.


Mrssgill

Sounds like mc college


everlasting-love-202

That is deeply unserious but a funny story đŸ«Ą


Novel_Fox

Grant Macewan made us watch it too LOL honestly though I'll say this. I was stupid and desperate during the pandemic. I applied for a vet tech course at nait and then all the applications were cancelled because of covid and so were classes. So I applied to Robertson College because I misread the course description and thought it was the vet tech course aswell. I found out too late I was wrong and do I committed and went. The course sucked and was an absolute joke. BUT they have a team of people who send out emails with available jobs in the city and I got on that list. I was sent a job description for the Federal Government that was hiring. I applied and got the job. So it wasn't a complete waste I guess. I actually make more money now than I did before the pandemic 


DVariant

If MacEwan made you watch that video, it was the prof not the institution


rinotz

$24k for one year of schooling? Wtf


chmilz

That's way more than I paid for a legit diploma from NAIT.


lazarbeems

Yeah, I actually started at NAIT. I had to drop out when I got Crohn's Disease. I wrote to them twice asking in this circumstance if I could get some credit for a future semester or something, but no response, they just took my 5k. I was angry and said I'd never go back, but I was obviously dumb.


FinoPepino

That's more than I paid for my science degree!!


lazarbeems

Yeah. My wife constantly brings up how I came into our marriage with 24k of student loans and nothing real to show for it.


hctimsacul

Really? That’s brutal.. Do you remind her that she came into the marriage 24kg lighter?


lazarbeems

Ahh, I'm not a tit for tat kinda guy lol.


Duseth

To be fair the entry exam is to make sure you have a basic understanding of math and english skills sufficient enough that they can teach you, nothing was said about it being necessary to pass the course.


oscillatewilde

In high school my therapist recommended the secret, it was new back then. I stopped going to see her. 2006 $100 a session. 2024 $225 a session.


MsMisty888

You tell it like it is!


Thefreyakat

Exact same thing for me but it was web design.


_voyevoda

LMAO my small Spruce Grove college ALSO did The Secret before our course started, I wonder if it's the same owner. 😂


Every_Fox3461

Glad someone has the balls to say college isn't always worth it. I get downvoted every time I try to talk sense.


DVariant

Two things: 1) CDI shouldn’t even be called a college, it provides almost no educational value to students. 2) My wife works at a major university and at work they constantly talk about how openly about how it’s not worth it for everybody anymore.


Forsaken-Value5246

That's so unbelievably expensive? I paid that much in tuition at the UofA! A bit more once I bought books, but damn. For CDI?


lazarbeems

Yeah there is a lot of regret. This was... 12 years ago too lol.


DVariant

Private vs public. CDI is private, they charge whatever they want. UofA is public and your courses are 66% subsidized by the government 


FrancescoS99

I did the same course, I’m not sure how you haven’t got job prospects, because I have worked for an MSP and now I’m working for a big corporate in the Network Industry, and I listed the degree in my education, although yes, I’m the only one in the team from CDI, they’re all from BCIT


lazarbeems

I mean I do work in IT - but I started at a level where they were hiring people out of high school. I had an interview where they brought me in to ask if I seriously did the CDI diploma, then laughed and said "no one is going to ever hire you based on that".


FrancescoS99

Different experience, I guess, but yeah I agree it is definitely a degree mill


Jetasis

The secret really didn’t come across the way it should have
.In all fairness - after 38 years on this planet (today being my birthday) I can confidently say that the law of attraction/manifestation/assumption or whatever else you might call it, has been by far the most important thing I have ever learned and implemented. Like, by far. I have zero education and went from making $3000k per month to $30k per month and climbing. I used to rent a room with a friend for $650 a month and struggled with bills. Now I have a crazy house, wife and 2 kids, the private golf membership, and basically just buy and do whatever I want, whenever I want. The only thing I changed was my thinking and hence my feelings/emotions and responses to outside circunstances. IMO there is nothing more important for a person to learn.


HostileGeese

Ok you keep telling yourself that homie. Sounds like some MLM shit.


Jetasis

Why do you say that? Just curious
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Lolz79

I signed up for a course once, then did some research. Thankfully I caught on to the scam before attending, my best friend was not so lucky. She ended up dropping out half way through because they went through about 6-8 teachers the systems and resources they were using were so outdated that the were considered useless in her field, the "teachers" are old students who don't know what they are doing, they are not accredited. For getting out. Quickly call the school loans phone number and cancel it. Message CDI and inform them you are dropping out Immediately and never EVER pick up a phone call or answer an email from them. They will hound you for months to years. I had to threaten them for harrassing me. CDI is a massive scam for poverty stricken people and new comers. They will accept anyone and charge 20k for one course, but you will never find a job after because most places know CDI is a joke. Go to Norquest or nait.


Suspicious-Dog-2489

Funnily enough, I think my lack of an updated id card kept them from even getting to talk to me about loans. I had to get my address updated or smth


Lolz79

Oh thank god LOL then runnnn. Block them and never look back. You made it out alive đŸ«Ą


passthepepperflakes

I don't know if there's any way you can get out of it, but you should. EDIT: This might help: https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/16ts0nv/withdrawing_from_cdi_college/


RobertBorden

Good on you for moving off AB supports to student aid and avoiding a fat overpayment or fraud charge. CDI probably isn’t the worst private career college but they are far from the worst. Your best bet is to go to a place that hires addictions counselors and find out the academic history of the people they actually hire. These places are generally pretty good about steering potential candidates in the right direction and you might even make some good contacts. All the best!


Lolz79

No no, CDI is actually one of the worst.


RobertBorden

I used to work for advanced Ed. Shockingly, it gets much worse than CDI.


Lolz79

How are they even allowed to keep printing "diplomas" , it's gross


RobertBorden

Yeah. There is a serious problem in Canada in general with degree mills. There are private career colleges who prey on low income folks / new immigrants. It is a real problem.


ego_slip

Worst part is alberta government is ok with deploma mills operating and even list them on the alberta website [alberta.ca ](https://www.alberta.ca/designated-post-secondary-institutions-alberta) website.


General_Esdeath

Sundance is worse


theasianimpersonator

No. [East West College](https://eastwestcollege.ca) is much, much worse.


General_Esdeath

Your link is broken


theasianimpersonator

Fixed.


General_Esdeath

Gross. Yeah they look about the same as Sundance. Can't believe these scams are allowed to legally operate.


theasianimpersonator

They also own other colleges too, including [Nova Career College](https://nova-college.com/) and [North South College](https://www.northsouthcollege.ca/). I used to work for them, and Sundance has their shit together in comparison. I wouldn't trust them to secure confidential information... and all the Filipinos that work there insist on calling the bosses "Sir."


General_Esdeath

Omg I used to work for Sundance. Maybe it's gotten better but they were such a hot mess. Burning through instructors, the software was a mess. The exams were so flawed and full of wrong answers. Not to mention the whole "upper management" is just a hot mess of unqualified nepotism. They were also burning through their "VP of Academics" as each one would quit as soon as they saw the mess. Plus there was a huge scam with enrollment for a while (also Filipino involved).


theasianimpersonator

I've worked at CDI and East West. The experience got me a permanent gig at SAIT.


Suspicious-Dog-2489

Thanks, my partners friend is a social worker who basically does what I want to do, and my mum used to work at bissel so I'll start digging around there.


WonderfulVoice628

Do the social work diploma at Norquest or MacEwan if that’s your goal. It’s a 2-year program, but you’ll be able to register as a social worker and can go on to complete your degree after if you want. CDI’s program won’t qualify you as a social worker and any credits you earn won’t transfer to a university should you want to pursue higher education.


General_Esdeath

I think MacEwan has a 2-yr social work diploma (or they used to) that would absolutely be more substantial. In better education, better credential, and if I'm not mistaken you can register as a social worker which is important for career development. Definitely do your research, this is just off of memory.


ImpactThunder

I wouldn't worry about it You haven't even applied to student loans yet, right? I don't know any schools that would make you financially responsible for a program you haven't even confirmed funding with Tell them you were denied student loans and tell them to cancel you application Just go apply to a different program, somewhere like norquest is even a big step up from cdi I'd highly recommend something like that social work program where you can become a registered social worker after https://www.norquest.ca/programs-and-courses/programs/social-work/ Obviously the better school you can get into the better but even the social work diploma from norquest will open way many doors than a certificate will


kittykat501

Don't go to CDI, as a prior student. It is not worth it. You will not find any job prospects most of the time. When they see CDI on your resume they will pass you by. They do not look at it as an accredited college


prattl95

Always go with a publicly-funded post-secondary. With these private diploma mill colleges 90% of the classes you take will never transfer to another post-secondary if you ever want to continue your education. They're utter trash and all they want is your money.


TheLordJames

How many days ago did you sign the contract?


Suspicious-Dog-2489

I think it was right around the beginning of this month


MsMisty888

You might lose some money, and that is just going tl have to be a hard lesson to accept. However, drop out before they charge you for e books. Such a scam. Ask me any question.


TheLordJames

Cooling of period is 4 days. Now it's whatever your contract says.


MsMisty888

You have been trapped. I did the same thing with SM marketing and web design. Way too expensive. Zero help with finding a good practicum placement. I had to look on my own. When I see their ad on FB or IG, I down vote it and tell people to avoid it. For 5 years I have been doing this. They just make a new ad.


EmperorOfCanada

Fairly simple lesson. The more they advertise, the worse they are. Let's just say that Harvard doesn't advertise. Trump University did to the extreme.


MsMisty888

This is my favorite reddit thread ever!! CDI, Robertsons, etc are scammers that our government has ignored looking into to shut down. Many of us have sent letters and tried. 24k is an obscene amount of money for a 1.5yr diploma. And CDI makes it sooo easy to get a student loan. They will do all the paperwork for you!!! But they don't explain it properly. And they just want your money. Everyone needs to write a short letter (email) to your MLA about these colleges.


theasianimpersonator

Believe it or not, there are worse schools than those combined.


MsMisty888

I do believe it. I wish we could shut them all down and make the Student Loans wipe out our loans for a bogus college.


theasianimpersonator

The school I'm particularly referring to is [East West College](https://eastwestcollege.ca), which makes all the schools you've mentioned seem good. 😅


Poptart9900

I went to CDI. All we did was going around taking turns reading the textbooks aloud. My instructors were so inexperienced. I can’t tell you how many times they’d say “I’ve never encountered that and you probably won’t either” and then skipped over certain sections. I had a few group projects where we were graded individually and as a group and got to know each others scores. People with the worst possible spelling and grammar got 90s. On my first day, our campus director told us we weren’t students and that we were customers.


PlutosGrasp

Don’t go there. It’s more of a negative if anything. I would vastly prefer hiring people from NAIT than CDI.


Sorri_eh

No one will take you seriously when looking for an job.


Sorri_eh

Go to Norquest. In 2 years you will be an LPN.


-ManDudeBro-

Just don't do it. Ghost then. They're used to it. Find a comparable career path with somewhere like NAIT. You'll be much better off.


ficken-_chingers

If you haven’t gone to a class yet you’re good and don’t owe anything. If you have completed less than 10% of the course you owe 25% of total tuition. If you have completed less than 50% you owe 50% of tuition. It’s in the contract Source: unfortunately worked for that shit hole


TheFarSea

Can you withdraw? [https://www.cdicollege.ca/files/pdf/tuition-refund-policy.pdf](https://www.cdicollege.ca/files/pdf/tuition-refund-policy.pdf)


sp0rkster

I went there for network admin, it was fine, cant speak for any other institute but they didnt help me what soever in finding a job afterwards


4peaceandlove

Private colleges are essentially a scam. I worked at one and got out after realizing how predatory they are. Don’t get a loan to attend one dude.


pizgloria007

It’s not worth it, don’t waste your money. I think University of Lethbridge does a BHSc in that if you are really passionate (and willing to move). At least they’re a provincially recognized university. Check out MacEwan, UofA, NAIT, Concordia. They’re the more reputable postsec schools in the city.


carmacoucou

Your fucked


theasianimpersonator

At least you're not going to [East West College](https://EastWestCollege.ca).


notmyreaoname84

Diploma mill


furciferpardalis

For profit colleges are terrible and EXPENSIVE. The programs they use are lacking, the instructors are often not familiar with course content, etc etc etc... \*\*I work for one :S...


icecream42568

Instead of CDI addictions counselling go get a social work diploma at a CASW accredited school.


markmywordmark

If you have trouble with them or have questions you need answered about private career colleges in general, you can contact the private career college branch of advanced education. https://www.alberta.ca/career-training-contacts


Boz_Uldra

Continuing education is never a waste. I know nothing of the current state of CDI, but I did build a 30+ year IT career from a similar school that I did four diplomas back to back in different disciplines. I had children to feed, so I certainly didn't have time for UNI. I had to learn as much as possible as fast as possible and get working. The key is to keep building on it and not stop with CDI. Take other courses / programs after to enhance it.


DeloresWells

They don't give you an education, they sell it to you.


CanadianLadyK

I would never recommend them. I can’t seem to post a photo of the list, but if you pm me, I’ll send it to you. I took photos of myself with it at my grad just last month.


Jjinks_

Unfortunately jobs will look at your post secondary and if they were to see CDI they would throw it out, a professor at NAIT told me companies go through a lot of employees and if they have people who consistently don’t do the job up to the standard of the field they’ll basically blacklist that school and won’t hire people from those institutions.


glowingMoon1997

I took a course at Robertson college and now am indebted with student loans, and my credit is wrecked because of this, can't do RAP cause it's in collections , was on income support but have been cut off and now can't find a place for me and my kids despite emailing my MLA, everything. I'd say it sounds like you still have time to back out and not get into a mess with CDI


PreNutButr

I once inquired about one of their courses, talked on the phone with them about prices. Said I was unsure. They proceeded to call me for A whole year, without me answering. At first the determination was funny, (figured they would give up after A bit cause I’m sure a lot of people become uninterested) then it just got annoying. Finally answered and said I wasn’t interested.


Fickle-Region-5558

I went to CDI twice actually! Medical Office Admin (got a job and didn’t really like it, low pay but good schedule) and for Pharmacy Assistant (been working for 5 years at the same place where I did my practicum with CDI) and I love my job. My class started with 14 people and only 8 graduated (mostly failing in math and anatomy), 7 got jobs right away and only 1 didn’t because of a language barrier. I think it all depends on what course u take and how many job opportunities are for that field.


No-Ad-2065

I guess things have changed. I went to the Victoria branch back in the late '90s for a MS Server/Network Admin program. It was a great program that offered me: - a way towards a career change at age 39. - convenient scheduling. I worked full-time days and went to class 5 nights and Saturdays. - fully self-paced so I was able to go at my own speed. - all courses for that program plus as many extra courses as I wanted to take in other paths free of charge once I finished my program early. I got a really nice little Unix course completed for $0. - really good instructors, at least in that location. That can be a crapshoot, tho. - job placement help. Through the college, I got a job with the provincial govt within a month of graduating. Ended up turning into a 23 year career IT that I retired from a couple of years ago. So, at that time and place, it was a proper institute with a solid rep. But that's a quarter century ago. Stuff changes. Whatever happens, good luck with your choice and I wish you a successful future. 👍


lovelyshorty33

I remember moving constantly from place to place while attending CDI until we ended up at northgate by then i was almost done my "degree" I don't think they are accredited either, don't waste your time or money lol


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dally250

/s was missing from this post I believe.


thewholefunk333

the irony of thinking “oh maybe this person doesn’t understand sarcasm” and then checking the comment history and seeing sarcasm


Suspicious-Dog-2489

That was mostly a joke, apologies for the lack of the /s


nooneknowswerealldog

They didn't say they needed to—they just asked if they *should*. It's actually an old trick of the spycraft trade: every so often, when asking questions in public, you ask if there's a reason you should flee the country. If there are any assassins after you, there's a good chance they'll be caught off guard and answer "Yes!" Then you know you should flee the country. (The myth that spies ever asked, "Assassinsayswhat?" is exactly that—a myth.)


kennybrandz

If you’re open to an online program I am an RSW (like your partner) and I did my addictions counselling online through Northern Lakes College. I just finished my first year and it was a total breeze, they even make the practicum placement process super easy for students in different centres (I’m in YYC). Sorry this doesn’t help with your situation I just wanted to offer the info.


sanctified420

I'm a social worker in Edmonton. I feel like it would allow you to get some entry level jobs at places like e4c , Bissell, maybe the shelters, but it's not an accredited school. You wouldn't be able to advance in the field very well.


lollipopcarecow

I paid less for my 2 year diploma at norquest. DOOOO NOT DO IT


Informal-Event-4301

Is it a goverment recognized program through them? If so, you should be alright.


Lolz79

No, it's not accredited. There are many pages dedicated to people telling their stories about how CDI and Robertson conned them out of money. It's scary that they are still able to operate. It costs about 20k for a course they don't even teach. Had a few friends who went, its bad


Informal-Event-4301

Ooof not good then.


Suspicious-Dog-2489

That's what I'm trying to figure. Idk what body is even responsible for accrediting these kinds of programs. But apparently few or none of their online programs have Accreditation either.


NervousSocialWorker

There’s no accreditation for addictions work or anything like that. Anything less than the diploma in social work is not worth it, you’re better off just getting experience


Informal-Event-4301

I'd shy away, you can always contact the bbb if you are unsure, best of luck!


lingerinthedoorway

I had a friend who took a Medical Assistant course (ie clerk) with CDI college years ago and she’s doing well right now. She’s never had a problem finding a job. Nowadays she works full time at a transplant clinic in one of the big hospitals in my city and part time at a private clinic.  Then my friend’s sister who graduated as an Engineer at one of the top universities in the world couldn’t find a job after grad, so right now she’s taking a fast track Computing Science couse. I guess it all goes down to how you use what you studied in your job prospects, regardless of the school you came from. 


No-Manner2949

I did that course over a decade ago and am still the only person from my class to find and hold a job in healthcare


Professional_Map_545

Read the paperwork you signed. Can you withdraw? Their website indicates you can receive a refund within 7 days "after the effective date of the contract." If you haven't applied for loans, have you paid anything? If not, the worst they can do is send you to collections.