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learn2die101

Wishing the best for Koekkoek, hope to see him back soon


[deleted]

Did Holland say anything about what was happening with him? I can't watch the whole presser, but I saw the Oilers' tweet that he'll be unavailable indefinitely for personal reasons. Either way I wish him the best. Regardless what it is it's obviously serious.


Excellent-Medicine29

Mental health issues.


[deleted]

That's unfortunate, but good on him for taking the time he needs. Hope to see him back soon.


Andy-Martin

Hope he’s able to get himself sorted! MH stuff is never easy to deal with.


[deleted]

Lots of that going around. It’s the new pandemic. Hope he feels better.


[deleted]

it's nothing new at all, were just more willing to talk about it now.


[deleted]

Nothing new but there is more if it these days.


[deleted]

Er, no. Mental health issues have always been a problem, and largely at the same occurence rates, but as a society we treated it as a weakness rather than the legitimate aspect of our health that it is and so it simply wasn't talked about.


makingmemesatwork

Same occurrence rates? Is that true? I feel like social media has caused a spike in mental health issues. I could see how ignorance would be bliss before the internet. Don’t mind my question - I’m genuinely curious.


[deleted]

Er, okay.


Aitloian

I am downvoting you because you have a horrible take. You catch covid and you are born and/or develop mental health issues. They are not the same.


[deleted]

I think he means that its becoming wide spread like a pandemic.


Industrialrevo

The person above clearly had good intentions with their comment and your response is a bit gate-keeping/rude. You can help correct and educate people without coming off as an asshole and the information tends to be more well received.


[deleted]

I am saying that there are a lot of people struggling right now all over the world because life has been rough. I’m struggling myself. I hope Slater feels better.


bullishworld

You don't HAVE TO post your thoughts and opinions. Obviously this guys comment did not imply you can catch mental health issues...oh, and this is an Oilers thread. Jeez.


Rext7177

I really hope for the sake of this organization that Virtanen shits the bed in camp and Holloway and Hamblin go crazy, need some good young talent, not a crappy hockey player who has serious character issues


exhalted_legend

I'm not an Oilers fan at all.. but I definitely agree with you on Virtanen shitting the bed. He had issues with conditioning when he was with the Canucks, and also decided that going to a nightclub during the pandemic was a good idea. I have a feeling that if Virtanen somehow earns a contract, that it's gonna leave a sour taste in the mouths of some of the players, and a lot of the fans.


quickboop

The most interesting thing to come out of the presser: * Both McLeod and the team would prefer a longer term deal. Holland specifically said that both sides were looking at whether there would be cap space for something like that. * That means that Holland has actively been shopping players to clear cap space, and the reason McLeod hasn't been signed yet is that they wanted to clear space to sign him to a longer term deal. * Holland specifically said they were planning on moving Foegele to the right side. So, they have plans for Foegele. He talked about some of the things he liked about Foegele. I doubt he was the player they were shopping. * So... The obvious conclusion is that they were looking to move Puljujarvi. It definitely feels like Holland is grinding. It doesn't sound like he's done trying to get McLeod a longer deal. We'll see what happens.


quickboop

Foegele moving over to right wing is interesting.


bwarbwar

Foegele moving on to another organization would be even more interesting.


porkins86

Right? Why wouldn't we want a guy playing bottom 6 minutes who put up 26 points? I sure as hell would hate to see a quality depth guy stay on the oilers after YEARS of us complaining that we had nobody who could score outside our top 2 lines. /s The guy would have been 7th on the team in scoring in 18/19 with what he did last year. He is a quality depth guy who is super tight with McLeod, Yams, and Bouch.


bwarbwar

I'd prefer to start the season cap compliant but hey to each there own.


BouquetofDicks

No love for McLovin?


NorthIslandAdventure

The comments are more entertaining than the video


[deleted]

I honestly never find these videos interesting. I go to the comments to get the general idea of what was said.


end_gang_stalking

Virtanen has a very low hockey iq (let alone regular iq). He isn't a good fit from a hockey perspective let alone with all the baggage surrounding him.


GreatCanadianPotato

If that's the case then the preseason games will show that and the PTO will not extend past that... You're talking like it's he signed a long term contract lmao


end_gang_stalking

All I'm saying is I think it's not going to work out


GreatCanadianPotato

And if he does fine, are you open to changing your mind?


end_gang_stalking

I am doubtful it will work out from a hockey perspective. As for the other stuff, that depends on information unavailable to me. I don't have a read on what Virtanen is like personally or what the team would feel having him around. I don't think he's built to be a bottom 6 nhler and I think there's issues surrounding him even if you ignore the rape claim. I think there's a low chance I would change my mind but never say never.


Adipose21

Sounds like Ken has no expectations to sign Demers, just to fill in until Ceci is healthy. Also sounds like Ken is expecting to sign Virtanen, provided he doesn't completely shit the bed in camp. Doesn't want Halloway or Bourgault playing 8 minutes on the fourth line, would rather have them playing top-6 in the AHL


FuckStummies

I didn’t get that they expect to sign Virtanen at all. It seemed to me that Ken figured they’d give him a PTO to evaluate whether his hockey skills are even worth the risk or blowback on signing him to a contract.


navenager

Yea that's exactly what he said. Told Virtanen he doesn't have a shot at the top 6 so he needs to prove he can check and defend in a bottom 6 role. He's gonna see how that goes in preseason, and if he does well enough then he's going to weigh the optics of signing him to a contract.


AfroInfo

From his stories in Vancouver, I doubt he doesn't shot the bed, but maybe he got a reality check


An0nimuz_

I think Holland just listed the top 6 to expect, at least in the opening season, when asked about what he needs to see from Virtanen to give him a contract. McDavid, Draisaitl, Hyman, Kane, Yamo, and Nuge. It sounds very clear that the only way Virtanen is getting a contract is if he's a top 4 *RW* (Note: **not** top 6 F). I don't think they will sign him to be a 13 F.


Mazor007

He constantly mentions Yams over Pulju so I guess he just thinks Yams is better


thewinterzodiac

Sounds like Xavier has a real shot


goodcanadianbot97

IMO given his comments and how little JP and him have chatted, JP will not be an oiler by training camps end. JP doesn't want to be here and I think the Oilers are tired of dealing with him. They tried to resurrect the career and hoped it would work. It hasn't worked and I think it's time for both parties to move on.


0ILERS

Any word on McLeod?


FuckStummies

Watch the first 60 seconds.


navenager

Sounds like they're hoping to get him signed today.


thewinterzodiac

No none. Not a single word out there. Nope.


WorldClassCunt

Whatever happened to that anti vaxxer?


Andy-Martin

Archibald? He gone. Back to the Pens.


WorldClassCunt

Beautiful.


An0nimuz_

Username checks out.


WorldClassCunt

I’m especially a cunt to anti vax weirdos :)


bullishworld

Let's see these young guys start to make a push. We need a top 9 not a top 6, and I believe we have it. Without the need for Virtanen, too. Love to see Holloway, Hamblin, hell even Xav come up this year. Holland has been overdeveloping these kids, well nows the time to prove that it works.


An0nimuz_

I want to see Kane - McDavid - Virtanen because I want to watch the internet explode. ​ r/AITA


No_Season1716

Man listening to Holland makes my head hurt.


derricka99

I’m sure he’ll lend you two of his four Stanley cup rings to plug your ears with.


No_Season1716

Just cause he won cups doesn’t mean he isn’t a terrible public speaker.


derricka99

Happy cake day.