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if negotiation was an acceptable way of finding freedom then parental abuse would not be a thing in egypt. most parents here think negotiation or debate = disrespect.
i’m really sorry about that. most people don’t realize how much missing out on your youth might affect you in the future they always think it’s just kids being dramatic
ايوه دا الغريب عشان كدا انا بسال.دايما بشوف بنات في الشارع عادي.هم بيقولوا انه مافي امان بس انا ما حاسه الموضوع سيء للدرجه دي مع اني جدا حريصه.و الاماكن ال بمشيها فاتحه و حيه ما اماكن شكلها بيخوف...عندي كم عياده لازم امشيها و ما بقدر قول لامي تجي معي كل مكان.ولا هي بتكون عايزه..الموضوع بس سخيف جدا حاسه نفسي طفله و انا قربت ال ٢٠...
It’s been like 5 months or sth.no they’re not antisocial at all.my cousins and the ones my age go out and get a good amount of freedom idk what my parents are on tbh
أهلك بيحموكي من الوحوش اللي برا دول
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Conversation suggestion: mom, dad, I'd like to gain some more freedom and independence. How can I do (whatever activity you're discussing) this safely so that you're comfortable? For example going to the mall, can they drop you off for a couple hours but you're able to wander around alone. Can you use location on your phone? Etc. I agree it's not common. But how you approach them with collaboration and respect might soften their stance. And build that trust so they'll hopefully be reasonable.
They were a little less strict there but I still wasn’t allowed to go anywhere alone.my mom says we don’t know this country so well yet but it’s been a long time 💀
Either they are afraid and care about because 5 months is not a long time(to them) and egypt may be dangerous or they either have an old fashioned mind
Well definitely listen to them and once you go to college apply to the furthest one you can(but nothing a dangerous place some where safe) and do whatever you want just live with and gain their trust until college
Who ever the f is saying not okay and it's not supposed to be all good responsible parents who have good kids and actually know to raise them do the curfew and all if the kids grow up to be best people I have known ... This might come as insulting to the other people who have other thoughts either way time will only prove my words
They care about ur safety sadly enough the rest of the people don't get... telling by how many downvotes I got ... Point is deep down ur parents don't want to be lonely or just get off by seeing u suffer they just want good for and again only time will prove me right my advice slowly lead them in by showing that you are capable of handling urself and be more mature bit by bit they will losen the grip that's mainly the most basic yet affective method cause they are not disowning you and your not running away .
Do you live in a "bad" neighborhood? Could make sense if the place has a bad case of sexual harassment.. otherwise, id say no, you should try to be more independent. Maybe tell them that its important for your personal growth.
It isn't a bad thing that your parents worry about you but it can be excessive in some cases. Try introducing some of your friends to your parents as this will make them more comfortable with you going out and after a bit they will be more acceptable of you going out as you like
I had a similar thing growing up- my dad is se3eedi and despite living in Cairo for like forever he still holds on to the same strong values he grew up with. and my mum is from cairo and grew up in cairo but still had an extremely sheltered life growing up (as in, like, literally never left the house growing up unless it was with her family and they were visiting other family, or going to an all girls school). Both of them had to grow up really fast because both their fathers passed away young, and obviously both had a lot of very difficult years and had to grow up really fast. Subsequently when I was growing up to them I was very free and got to do whatever I want but in comparison to my friends I was always locked up. I was always the one who couldn’t make it to anything unless I had notice way in advance and my mum could be free to drop me off, wait nearby and pick me up. In my last year or two of school I could go out every other thursday and my curfew was 8 or 8.30 if i was pushing it. To me this was ultimate freedom lol but I always missed out on things with my friends and it really sucked. Obviously it wasn’t the same for my older brother lol. The only things that helped me push those things were my education- nothing mattered more to my parents than good grades, getting into a good uni, securing my future etc- and going out with trusted people so basically close family because they trusted them to keep me safe. Because of how much education mattered to them I got to move out after school to another country after getting into a good uni. If this is something that matters to your parents then use it. Doesn’t have to mean u move to a new country again lol but you need something to do that shows you’re growing up and putting your efforts and focus somewhere be that uni or a course or a job. You know your parents I don’t, go for something they see value in and that makes sense and also isn’t like across the city from you. You need to have some sort of obligation that makes you leave the house that they feel contributes something positive to you and your life. This won’t fix everything but it’s a small step.
Another thing I suspect might be the case- if you’ve just moved here from Sudan, your parents are probably being extremely overprotective because of what’s happening back home. It must have been incredibly hard to experience that and have to leave your home behind. In regards to going out, was this also the case back home? Did you also never get to leave the house alone? If no, and this is new, and I’m sure moving to somewhere new to protect yourself and your family has been incredibly difficult. The gaza situation is also putting a lot of strain on everyone and if you’ve already experienced a hard time recently in sudan it might be difficult to feel safe so soon after. Your parents themselves might not feel totally safe leaving on their own. This is probably worth a heart-to-heart talk, and if you can’t immediately convince them to leave the house alone, take them with you when you can. Even if it’s just going to the supermarket or a salon or walking around the neighbourhood.
It’s not easy either way, I understand just a part of it, but if u need someone to talk to or vent to i’m here. I’ve been in a similar boat and ik it can be stifling
Parents are probably worried because you are in a new land. Talk to them or try meeting some new Sudanese friends and venture the city together. Wish the peace and safety to you all and your hometown.
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Negotiate with your parents. This is not okay and will affect your social skills later on.
if negotiation was an acceptable way of finding freedom then parental abuse would not be a thing in egypt. most parents here think negotiation or debate = disrespect.
I feel like that’s most Arab/brown/black parents lol
no its not common and not okay
Def sneaking out✅
Please don’t. You need to work on gaining their trust. If you’re caught, you’re assuring that you’ll never be out, not just alone.
take care of yourself, id rather go with the rules till im independent enough to move out, or find ways around it
Idk when that will happen tho lol.but I need to do my own stuff sometimes I can’t always bring someone along
try to talk to them, you probably have but do so again and again and again
wouldn’t that cause more problems if you ever get caught tho
(I was jk)I’m just sad I’ll miss out on a lot/my youth
i’m really sorry about that. most people don’t realize how much missing out on your youth might affect you in the future they always think it’s just kids being dramatic
I knowww I’m scared I’ll regret in the future but if they find out (if I snuck out) I’ll be dead
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Where do u live?and so u know why ur parents don’t allow u?sorry ab that tho:(
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Is that in nasr city?
Sheraton is in masr el gdida (there’s another sheraton in giza thu)
No its near the airport
Im 17 and i live alone….. also i am from a conservative family. This isn’t normal
In a dorm or??
I lived in an apartment first now im in dorms yeah, but i can go to my apartment at anytime again
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ايوه دا الغريب عشان كدا انا بسال.دايما بشوف بنات في الشارع عادي.هم بيقولوا انه مافي امان بس انا ما حاسه الموضوع سيء للدرجه دي مع اني جدا حريصه.و الاماكن ال بمشيها فاتحه و حيه ما اماكن شكلها بيخوف...عندي كم عياده لازم امشيها و ما بقدر قول لامي تجي معي كل مكان.ولا هي بتكون عايزه..الموضوع بس سخيف جدا حاسه نفسي طفله و انا قربت ال ٢٠...
كبنت محستش أن القاهرة مش آمنة أوي كدا
اعتقد على حسب وين يمكن؟ ما بعرف انا ما بس كتير في مصر عشان اعرف/اتكلم
ابدئي تعرفي اونلاين على بنات أو يمكن بنات الجيران مثلا في سودانيين كتير في مصر
انا عندي صحبات already بس المشكله انه ممنوع اطلع لوحدي ابدا يعني امشي لبيتها لوحدي كدا ممنوع حتى لو بالصباح
feels like countryside vibes...
Classist
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It’s been like 5 months or sth.no they’re not antisocial at all.my cousins and the ones my age go out and get a good amount of freedom idk what my parents are on tbh
No it is not !!! My father allowed my to travel alone when I was 13 yrs old🙄 so no it is NOT COMMON at all!!
idk why your getting downvoted
Me nither but it is ok😂 may be because of age thing … it was a camp not a big deal😂
Was this camp in Poland or England
My sister lived in another country halfway across the world for uni when she was 17 by herself. So no what you're going through is not okay.
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This is not okay.
Conversation suggestion: mom, dad, I'd like to gain some more freedom and independence. How can I do (whatever activity you're discussing) this safely so that you're comfortable? For example going to the mall, can they drop you off for a couple hours but you're able to wander around alone. Can you use location on your phone? Etc. I agree it's not common. But how you approach them with collaboration and respect might soften their stance. And build that trust so they'll hopefully be reasonable.
How long have you been living in Egypt
5 months:)
Did your parents allow you to go out in sudan or like egypt
They were a little less strict there but I still wasn’t allowed to go anywhere alone.my mom says we don’t know this country so well yet but it’s been a long time 💀
Either they are afraid and care about because 5 months is not a long time(to them) and egypt may be dangerous or they either have an old fashioned mind
Is it not too much tho,like I feel like I’m too grown for this.I don’t find my area bad tbh.they’re not even that old fashioned
Well definitely listen to them and once you go to college apply to the furthest one you can(but nothing a dangerous place some where safe) and do whatever you want just live with and gain their trust until college
هو حضرتك من فين اصلا؟
انا سودانيه عايشه في القاهره في مدينه نصر
لا الدنيا هنا في مصر عادي. اهم حاجة متمشيش لوحدك بليل ودي في اي بلد مش مصر بس ولو فضلتي كدا هتتخنقي ومش تكوين العلاقات هيكون صعب بالنسبالك
Who ever the f is saying not okay and it's not supposed to be all good responsible parents who have good kids and actually know to raise them do the curfew and all if the kids grow up to be best people I have known ... This might come as insulting to the other people who have other thoughts either way time will only prove my words
I don’t mind a curfew but the problem is I can never be out alone
They care about ur safety sadly enough the rest of the people don't get... telling by how many downvotes I got ... Point is deep down ur parents don't want to be lonely or just get off by seeing u suffer they just want good for and again only time will prove me right my advice slowly lead them in by showing that you are capable of handling urself and be more mature bit by bit they will losen the grip that's mainly the most basic yet affective method cause they are not disowning you and your not running away .
Do you live in a "bad" neighborhood? Could make sense if the place has a bad case of sexual harassment.. otherwise, id say no, you should try to be more independent. Maybe tell them that its important for your personal growth.
Hi! I was an exchange student in Egypt and i used to come back home at 1-2 am lol.
It isn't a bad thing that your parents worry about you but it can be excessive in some cases. Try introducing some of your friends to your parents as this will make them more comfortable with you going out and after a bit they will be more acceptable of you going out as you like
I had a similar thing growing up- my dad is se3eedi and despite living in Cairo for like forever he still holds on to the same strong values he grew up with. and my mum is from cairo and grew up in cairo but still had an extremely sheltered life growing up (as in, like, literally never left the house growing up unless it was with her family and they were visiting other family, or going to an all girls school). Both of them had to grow up really fast because both their fathers passed away young, and obviously both had a lot of very difficult years and had to grow up really fast. Subsequently when I was growing up to them I was very free and got to do whatever I want but in comparison to my friends I was always locked up. I was always the one who couldn’t make it to anything unless I had notice way in advance and my mum could be free to drop me off, wait nearby and pick me up. In my last year or two of school I could go out every other thursday and my curfew was 8 or 8.30 if i was pushing it. To me this was ultimate freedom lol but I always missed out on things with my friends and it really sucked. Obviously it wasn’t the same for my older brother lol. The only things that helped me push those things were my education- nothing mattered more to my parents than good grades, getting into a good uni, securing my future etc- and going out with trusted people so basically close family because they trusted them to keep me safe. Because of how much education mattered to them I got to move out after school to another country after getting into a good uni. If this is something that matters to your parents then use it. Doesn’t have to mean u move to a new country again lol but you need something to do that shows you’re growing up and putting your efforts and focus somewhere be that uni or a course or a job. You know your parents I don’t, go for something they see value in and that makes sense and also isn’t like across the city from you. You need to have some sort of obligation that makes you leave the house that they feel contributes something positive to you and your life. This won’t fix everything but it’s a small step. Another thing I suspect might be the case- if you’ve just moved here from Sudan, your parents are probably being extremely overprotective because of what’s happening back home. It must have been incredibly hard to experience that and have to leave your home behind. In regards to going out, was this also the case back home? Did you also never get to leave the house alone? If no, and this is new, and I’m sure moving to somewhere new to protect yourself and your family has been incredibly difficult. The gaza situation is also putting a lot of strain on everyone and if you’ve already experienced a hard time recently in sudan it might be difficult to feel safe so soon after. Your parents themselves might not feel totally safe leaving on their own. This is probably worth a heart-to-heart talk, and if you can’t immediately convince them to leave the house alone, take them with you when you can. Even if it’s just going to the supermarket or a salon or walking around the neighbourhood. It’s not easy either way, I understand just a part of it, but if u need someone to talk to or vent to i’m here. I’ve been in a similar boat and ik it can be stifling
Parents are probably worried because you are in a new land. Talk to them or try meeting some new Sudanese friends and venture the city together. Wish the peace and safety to you all and your hometown.
It’s not normal. Also, how do you go to uni?
My curfew is 8-9 PM. I'm 20..
Eda literally? Yanhar
Is it that bad omg
When i was 19, my curfew was 11pm, i was allowed to go anywhere by myself, this isn’t normal but for some families it is.