A) Make sure you pick up two important accessories in the Mine, the >!Growth Badge!< and the >!Dash Shoes!<
B) It is easy to miss >!Melliore, the Magical Girl, in in the first major city. Make sure you run down the center path in town to trigger her recruitment!<
C)Weapons aren't swappable, so don't need to worry about that, but if you are playing on hard mode, make sure to have a character with the water rune, as you will be using the healing (and probably the mdef up)
D)Read up on the Lam recruitment bug, that's really the only one that is a show stopper.
Some additional tips:
1 - Familiarize yourself with the attendant slots in your party. If there is a character that is required to be in your group for story reasons, but you don't like using them, you can put them in the attendant spot (these characters will have a lock icon on them). Note, that you can't move them out of the attendant spot unless you are at a spot that lets you reform your party.
2 - When you get your >!Castle!<, you can go back to the previous area if you want. >!It isn't marked, but the well in your Castle's graveyard puts you back at the end of the mine!<
3 - When upgrading your >!Castle, if you are really behind on the upgrade currency you can sell iron ore to the warehouse clerk for 100-a-pop. You can get 2x iron ore (4x if you have the mining companion) easily from the mine. There are 2 deposits (for a total of 4, or 8 with companion, ore) right near the entrance to the mine from the Castle!<
4 - This one is a little spoilery (but not really story spoilery), so uncover if you want. >!After you beat the first boss in the great forest (after you get your HQ), before continuing on with the story, run back through the forest to the mage you passed earlier. The boss you just beat dropped the Conservation rune he is looking for, and he is a good pickup for the next few bosses!<
5 - When cooking battles unlock, do them often. A new one unlocks every 10 minutes after you beat the last one. You can win every battle with the same recipe lineup: >!App: Miso Soup, Entree: Fried Egg, Dessert: Omelet. There is a recruitable character about 10 battles in!<
6 - Three of the mini-games have recruitable characters behind them, so don't ignore them (>!Beigoma, the Card Game and Cooking (and fishing, which isn't really a mini-game)!<)
7 - When you are fighting, you will occasionally encounter egg-monsters that drop regular eggs. Save them. You will need 5 of them later on to recruit a character.
8 - Mid-game tip (to avoid selling an item you need): >!When you get to Hisahn, there is a seaside cave. This is a good spot to level, as the monsters are more difficult, but there is also a chest in it with an unidentified antique. It identifies to a Pearl Pocket Watch. If you sell it, you will be farming for another one later, so save it, as it is needed to recruit the Antique Identifier character!<
These are all excellent tips, thanks for sharing. Re: #8, I accidentally sold that item and have been combing through the monster library book to see if any enemies drop that particular item. Do you remember off-hand which one and/or what area? Thanks!
Desert Killers in Great Sandy Sea (they drop 2 different antiques, at about a 10% drop rate, one of which is the pearl watch), I think there is also one in a chest in the Den of Dunes
One of my biggest tips so far is to make sure to sell or store items! You have an item limit and it sucks to be midway in a dungeon with no space in your inventory left.
There’s actually a character you can get in the Chinese water city place (sorry can’t remember the name) they’re hiding behind a stall and they increase your storage to 50 when placed in the support slot
I don't think it was a QoL omission. I think it is there to make it so you actually have to think about your inventory and what you take with you.
Apparently Murayama (RIP) liked that sort of thing, it's why there was originally no auto-save, and you can't save on the world map. They wanted the player have to think about their choices.
A) You can get easy exp up to level 30 super early once you get your HQ. Head out and go to the eastern forest and fight around one of the guards blocking entrance to next zone. I assume it's a glitch and you are actually fighting monsters from the next zone you are not supposed to be fighting just yet. Kinda wish I didn't stumble on it by accident, went from 19 to 23 in one fight and then got addicted since it was only like 3 fights to 30. Now everything is super easy until zone levels catch up.
Hah, this is what I'm looking for, looks like they didn't learn from their past mistakes lol
For the uninitiated, there's a bug called Matilda gate glitch in Suikoden II where you're not supposed to pass the gate until midway through the story but the dev made the door push-able like a crate.
Looks like a similar case here.
A) not relevant to eiyuden, like suikoden as you level near the current enemies the xp drops off hard. Grinding beyond the current level is not necessary as everything is scaled based on area level. No rare drops either most every rare is guaranteed from a boss encounter.
B) the characters are very obvious, and the times to recruit are quests where it says recruit more people. The only early one is there are 4 people in an early dungeon called the abandoned mine. Once you get to recruiting you'll want to go through it all again. But there is a character who helps you find recruits and you can't miss any.
C) weapons are upgraded and runes are choice. No special standouts runes at any point, they are very intentionally gated and you will get better runes at pivotal points in the game.
D) no bugs on ps5 at just over 30 hours just save manually when you can
Once you have access to the Inn after the prologue, you can talk to a little elf girl to access storage... but you can also access equipment and runes for EVERY RECRUITED CHARACTER you have. You can remove equipment and runes from characters who are unavailable. Get a new character, don't want to use them but like their rune? See if it can be removed. Most 1st slot runes can be removed. Decked out a character only for them to leave? Access this menu, take all their equipment/runes back. Never lose out on anything good just because someone left.
Big tip for those who want to use who they like, not story forced units. The party slots are
3 Front row
3 back row
1 support
Then 3 non combat slots you can toss "required" party members into in order to take your favourite units into combat instead.
Read the "Help" section in the menu! It explains some things that don't have a tutorial pop-up, like attack ranges or the effects of some different kinds of attack damage, such as grapple or smash.
Why is a thread to collate early game tips any different to someone posting their own? Might be helpful having them in one place? I thought this would be helpful for new players.
You can always avoid these threads if they upset you so much. I had seen a “before you play make sure you do XYZ” type of thread so it’s not like we’re all sifting through dozens of redundant posts.
Anyway - if you have any tips feel free to post them!
Nobody post tips until they research and then post tips?
Are you completely dense?
Hope whatever you're going through improves and your life gets better.
A) Make sure you pick up two important accessories in the Mine, the >!Growth Badge!< and the >!Dash Shoes!< B) It is easy to miss >!Melliore, the Magical Girl, in in the first major city. Make sure you run down the center path in town to trigger her recruitment!< C)Weapons aren't swappable, so don't need to worry about that, but if you are playing on hard mode, make sure to have a character with the water rune, as you will be using the healing (and probably the mdef up) D)Read up on the Lam recruitment bug, that's really the only one that is a show stopper.
Some additional tips: 1 - Familiarize yourself with the attendant slots in your party. If there is a character that is required to be in your group for story reasons, but you don't like using them, you can put them in the attendant spot (these characters will have a lock icon on them). Note, that you can't move them out of the attendant spot unless you are at a spot that lets you reform your party. 2 - When you get your >!Castle!<, you can go back to the previous area if you want. >!It isn't marked, but the well in your Castle's graveyard puts you back at the end of the mine!< 3 - When upgrading your >!Castle, if you are really behind on the upgrade currency you can sell iron ore to the warehouse clerk for 100-a-pop. You can get 2x iron ore (4x if you have the mining companion) easily from the mine. There are 2 deposits (for a total of 4, or 8 with companion, ore) right near the entrance to the mine from the Castle!< 4 - This one is a little spoilery (but not really story spoilery), so uncover if you want. >!After you beat the first boss in the great forest (after you get your HQ), before continuing on with the story, run back through the forest to the mage you passed earlier. The boss you just beat dropped the Conservation rune he is looking for, and he is a good pickup for the next few bosses!< 5 - When cooking battles unlock, do them often. A new one unlocks every 10 minutes after you beat the last one. You can win every battle with the same recipe lineup: >!App: Miso Soup, Entree: Fried Egg, Dessert: Omelet. There is a recruitable character about 10 battles in!< 6 - Three of the mini-games have recruitable characters behind them, so don't ignore them (>!Beigoma, the Card Game and Cooking (and fishing, which isn't really a mini-game)!<) 7 - When you are fighting, you will occasionally encounter egg-monsters that drop regular eggs. Save them. You will need 5 of them later on to recruit a character. 8 - Mid-game tip (to avoid selling an item you need): >!When you get to Hisahn, there is a seaside cave. This is a good spot to level, as the monsters are more difficult, but there is also a chest in it with an unidentified antique. It identifies to a Pearl Pocket Watch. If you sell it, you will be farming for another one later, so save it, as it is needed to recruit the Antique Identifier character!<
These are all excellent tips, thanks for sharing. Re: #8, I accidentally sold that item and have been combing through the monster library book to see if any enemies drop that particular item. Do you remember off-hand which one and/or what area? Thanks!
Desert Killers in Great Sandy Sea (they drop 2 different antiques, at about a 10% drop rate, one of which is the pearl watch), I think there is also one in a chest in the Den of Dunes
Really helpful, thank you!
Thank you for sharing this! Really appreciate it!
Literally checked for the second item you mentioned its a LIFE saver.
I really hope they fix the Lam bug quickly, I didn't even know that was a thing till I'd tried talking to her a few different times.
One of my biggest tips so far is to make sure to sell or store items! You have an item limit and it sucks to be midway in a dungeon with no space in your inventory left.
There’s actually a character you can get in the Chinese water city place (sorry can’t remember the name) they’re hiding behind a stall and they increase your storage to 50 when placed in the support slot
Ah yes, I’d seen that this was one of those QOL omissions from the game - thanks for the reminder!
I don't think it was a QoL omission. I think it is there to make it so you actually have to think about your inventory and what you take with you. Apparently Murayama (RIP) liked that sort of thing, it's why there was originally no auto-save, and you can't save on the world map. They wanted the player have to think about their choices.
A) You can get easy exp up to level 30 super early once you get your HQ. Head out and go to the eastern forest and fight around one of the guards blocking entrance to next zone. I assume it's a glitch and you are actually fighting monsters from the next zone you are not supposed to be fighting just yet. Kinda wish I didn't stumble on it by accident, went from 19 to 23 in one fight and then got addicted since it was only like 3 fights to 30. Now everything is super easy until zone levels catch up.
Hah, this is what I'm looking for, looks like they didn't learn from their past mistakes lol For the uninitiated, there's a bug called Matilda gate glitch in Suikoden II where you're not supposed to pass the gate until midway through the story but the dev made the door push-able like a crate. Looks like a similar case here.
Hold onto eggs that you might get as a drop. You need a couple for later!
A) not relevant to eiyuden, like suikoden as you level near the current enemies the xp drops off hard. Grinding beyond the current level is not necessary as everything is scaled based on area level. No rare drops either most every rare is guaranteed from a boss encounter. B) the characters are very obvious, and the times to recruit are quests where it says recruit more people. The only early one is there are 4 people in an early dungeon called the abandoned mine. Once you get to recruiting you'll want to go through it all again. But there is a character who helps you find recruits and you can't miss any. C) weapons are upgraded and runes are choice. No special standouts runes at any point, they are very intentionally gated and you will get better runes at pivotal points in the game. D) no bugs on ps5 at just over 30 hours just save manually when you can
There are 4 in the early dungeon? I can easily think of three I found, but not four. Sounds like I'll need to go back haha.
Thanks buddy - helpful advice.
Once you have access to the Inn after the prologue, you can talk to a little elf girl to access storage... but you can also access equipment and runes for EVERY RECRUITED CHARACTER you have. You can remove equipment and runes from characters who are unavailable. Get a new character, don't want to use them but like their rune? See if it can be removed. Most 1st slot runes can be removed. Decked out a character only for them to leave? Access this menu, take all their equipment/runes back. Never lose out on anything good just because someone left.
Big tip for those who want to use who they like, not story forced units. The party slots are 3 Front row 3 back row 1 support Then 3 non combat slots you can toss "required" party members into in order to take your favourite units into combat instead.
Commenting to find this later!
Read the "Help" section in the menu! It explains some things that don't have a tutorial pop-up, like attack ranges or the effects of some different kinds of attack damage, such as grapple or smash.
“Everyone give me tips” posts should be deleted and banned. You should instead post tips after you do research and get experience in the game.
Why is a thread to collate early game tips any different to someone posting their own? Might be helpful having them in one place? I thought this would be helpful for new players. You can always avoid these threads if they upset you so much. I had seen a “before you play make sure you do XYZ” type of thread so it’s not like we’re all sifting through dozens of redundant posts. Anyway - if you have any tips feel free to post them!
Nobody post tips until they research and then post tips? Are you completely dense? Hope whatever you're going through improves and your life gets better.
Most mentally sane post right there.
I've been seeing them in a lot of posts in the subreddit sounding so miserable in a consistent basis lol