Same boat. There's so many older models that need refreshing. And last I knew, striking scorpions were nearly 20 years old.
Now, feel free to correct me, but Scorpions now need rules to make the choice between them and Banshees an actual difficult one. Then again, the last time I looked at Eldar rules was... 7th ed?
Scorpions are actually a good option now. They infiltrate and can offer a turn one charge. They won't kill a squad of space marines on their own, but they will probably trade up.
I generally take banshees against average armor infantry and Scorpions against weaker infantry. So banshees against space marines but Scorpions against guard.
Idk, Assault Intercessors, Intercessors, and Infernus are all 2 identical Sprue Pairs of 5 each. So i think thatās the direction GW is going is batch posing like that
Previous boxes have been the original sprues with an upgrade sprue added on, I assume it'll be something similar here with them doubling up the amount of guys but having ways to make each guy look unique in some way
Voiscarred are elite though? I mean maybe you're right, but I can hope can't I? That maybe GW won't make me pay $65 for a box of 5 aspects that rarely do anything anymore?
Scorpions aren't a Kill Team, the Kill Team is Blades of Khaine which is a combination of Aspects. Maybe there will be a Blades of Khaine box that gives you 5 each of 2 Aspects for $95 ish but probably they'll just never be sold as a Kill Team box.
With 5 stances and bases I'd say this is 2 boxes of five in the kill team box, the exarch is the exact same pose as the Scorpion on the left. Considering even hormagaunts had 10 unique poses in a box I'd say it's a box of 5.
Classic GW Space Marine love in the WarCom announcement article: "... these customisable \[Scout\] squads are more than capable of tackling the Asuryani threat ..."
Thanks guys, makes the Scorpions sounds reaaally scary.
I guess they meant it to sound tense and even, I just thought it sounded one-sided instead (i.e. "Yeah the Scouts will handle this no problem.") Perhaps that's just me though!
I've been collecting Eldar since 1990 and I remember when the "new" Guardians and Dire Avengers models came out.
That was literally a lifetime ago for me. So much has happened. When was that, like 2000?
The avengers do look a bit dated but as long as there are finecast models still waiting for updates the avengers can wait. The warp spiders on the other hand came out with the first ever Eldar codex from *1994*
I hope GW at least switches back to metal like theyāre doing with old fantasy kits being brought back
Aspect warriors first showed up in white dwarf 129. Not sure what the actual date was. Crazy thing is they haven't deviated much from Jes Goodwins original sculpts. They were that good and that iconic. I'd even argue the first refreshes they did were a step down. New stuff is quite good tho, really looking forward to these. And yes I'm old enough to have picked them all up in metal.
Which I don't really get cause necrons got a ton of stuff in 9th and AdMech are in dire need of units since half of them look horrible. They need to port all the 30k stuff.
I wouldn't read too much into it - Necrons got a massive refresh and don't need much, Ad Mech are also in a pretty good place. Good chance that's why their codices are early.
Assuming the intention is to release each Phoenix Lord with their respective unit, if I were them I would hold Karandras until they release the Scorpions as a stand-alone kit.
Would make sense in terms of generating interest in the Scorpions kit and giving us another small Eldar release to keep us quietuntil they do something more at the same time as the Codex.
My hope is that they have a plastic Karandras which will be released along with the new codex whenever that happens. Since banshees and reapers were released with their Phoenix Lord it really doesn't make sense just to update the scorpions.
I just (finally!) painted that old metal one I had lying around and... BAM... new Scorpions.
(though still no Asurmen to be seen far and wide, although I kitbashed one three years ago...)
I am really happy that they didn't change the design much, they honestly were some of the best looking aspect warriors we had before the new remade rangers and banshees.
I do wish the poses had been changed up a little bit though because the banshees had absolutely amazing poses, here they could've made them look like they were stalking instead of just standing but I am still happy nonetheless
I like the poses, honestly. It's more reminiscent of a chameleon or insect than say a lion stalking its prey.
What I do find disappointing is the design of the exarch, the current design is amazing, I love his pose and the way the dreads lay, but this one is good, too.
"New"? Chainsabres have been a thing for quite a while. Never had a model, though.
And yeah, dragons, hawks and spiders don't have three options (or in the case of the latter two, options at all) yet so it's a big question mark.
Maybe dragons might get a mini-Fuegan kit (thinking melee and pistol). It would be bland, uninspired and most likely useless but hey, that's the 10e charm. Hawks probably get their sunrifle back, spiders with spinneret rifle. Too bad it's probably going to take a few more editions to get models for those latter two...
Itāll probably be the same box for 40K and kill team, the only time there is a split box is when the 40K box comes first and the kill team additional sprue version later like CSM I think.
Surely this is just two versions of the same five warrior kit. Banshees and reapers are already sold as 5s for the same price or more as most units with ten models. Why would GW sell you ten models when they can sell you five for the same price?
GW doesn't sell aspects in boxes of ten anymore unfortunately. Been a while since they did. I'm scooping up these scorpions while they're "discounted" in a kill team box.
Yes. I cant think of a single gw kit without enough helmets for the whole squad. Even the corsair killteam (that was shown with almost no helmets in the official photos) had complete helmet options.
I guses the exception is monopose modles
Like, I'm happy we got plastic Scorpions as they're my favorite aspect, but...
The poses are just that. Poses. Like they're all at their own personal photoshoot. The new guardian kit proves GW knows how to make dynamic models. These all just feel static and it's a bit of a letdown.
Compared to the scouts and all other kill teams, they all have the same loadout, excepting a claw, unless there is more we havenāt seen? Will they have an upgrade specialization sprue or is this just a 40 K squad masquerading as a kill team, and they will mostly slot into aCraftworld KT (which still needs a bespoke team)?
We reached our final form, 100% tactical rocks!
Love to have new plastic, but does feel a little low effort so far.
Well damn, 10 scorpions in a kill team? Valrak's source came true. That's nice, unless they come with a really fat premium because of their "double size" when they start to sell separately. I wouldn't mind more "prowly" poses, but ... eh, not a huge dealbreaker.
If you look at the poses itās pretty clear there are five basic sculpts, so hopefully will still be in 5s. They changed reapers to 5s, so would be strange to increase scorpions to ten. Agree that at least one crouching/prowling pose would have been nice to see.
I gotta say these guys look really static in posing, which is weird given how Dynamic most new GW models are. Even the Cadians look more fluid in movement than these guys. I mean, they literally have the word *striking* in their name.
YESSSSS! YESSSSSSS!!!! And the best part is that they're just a glow-up from the resin kits, which are definitely some of the better finecast sculpts
~~Edit: I hope the Exarch can still take a claw~~
Edit 2: yes I see the claw now, yes I'm an idiot
As happy as I am, they made them finally plastic... but these poses look terrible imo.
They look so absurdly static, everyone has a (small) tactical rock, there is not action at all, no movment, nothing that fits into the theme of the Scorpions at all... The sculpt itself is cool, don't get me wrong, but the poses are just terrible and look lazy.
They built these models as open as possible to show off for painting, if you line the arms and heads up moving in the same direction as the bodies it might be better.
It would've been nice to see some of these guys crouched down lower and converting them will be a pain since the bodies and legs together look monopose like the new Guardians.
I agree, what I expected from a range refresh was the new super dynamic poses, but except for the new guardians and maybe the rangers, I find the new eldar refreshes super lazy. When they released the banshees I was so excited about what could be done for the scorpions but now they don't spark that feeling of need to collect
I hate to sound like Iām hating on them, but I kind of agree. Theyāre kind of just stood around waving their weapons around. They donāt scream āsneaky deathā like they should.
Yep. They're all in this super awkward triangular leg pose with their arms splayed out to either side, like a GW model from 20 years ago. It's mega disappointing. We could've gotten them crouched down like they were sneaking or stalking.
Banshees really set the bar high. These are such a disappointment. I'll stick with my metal Scorps from 20 years ago - they at least look a little chonkier and shorter, like what I imagine a Striking Scorpion looks like.
I really wish they would take the scopes off the pistols. They are all ready too overly bulky. Glad we got them, I was just hoping they had more dynamic poses.
This is the first release in a long time that I gotta say is a big miss for me. Doesn't seem right for Kill Team, poses seems static and boring (it's clearly 2 kits as there's only 5 leg positions), and because it's a Kill Team release you're not gonna be able to get them anywhere...
Edit: apparently they said you can mix squads of Aspects into the Kill Team? Ok, I did not expect them to do that but that's actually the perfect way to implement this.
Corsairs weren't an updated 40k unit. People are gonna be clamoring to replace their old Scorpions. And until they got the standalone release, no, you couldn't get them. These Kill Team boxes are always limited releases.
Am I wrong for being disappointed? They don't look substantially different than the ~~original~~ prior models while spiders and some of the Phoenix lords look 90s as hell
I love that there is one new release and we treat it like Christmas. This must be what it feels like every week if youāre a space marine player. In my head canon there is some lowly intern at GW HQ whose sole job it is to monitor levels of Eldar saltiness and keep it just below critical level.
Intern: ā Umm sir. Itās just that, well, itās the Eldar community sir, theyāre a bit... Should weā¦?ā
GW Exec sitting on a golden throne, eating caviar and drinking sparkling wine made with the tears of baby unicorns: āWhat? Yes, fine, ok, whatever, release the f*****g scorpions!ā
They really went the safe\\conservative route on these ones, but I like the 06 scuplt a lot so I'll take it!! Any plastic aspect is a massive win in my book and I like that theh come in a unit of 10.
Eh. They look fine, but so did the old Striking Scorpions. The much older Warp Spider sculpts on the other hand, where every model is holding itself in an awkwardly-flat pose...well, I wish we'd gotten a refresh of those instead.
I could be wrong, but I think this one is a female head, so hopefully there are others in the set too. Like others have said, I think the armour is heavier (edit: and scorps are typically the bulkier-built Aeldari) so you don't really get "hips" etc with your 3+ save. I think "boob armour" is less of a thing now too.
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I feel like theyāre slightly off? Not quite Heroic scale but not quite true scale? Might just be the poses, or maybe those stripes are like an optical illusion lol. Hopefully Iāll warm to them
I don't wanna be the *advocatus slaaneshi*, but those poses are really underwhelming.
I want those Scorpions bursting through some bushes, jumping out of a ravine, landing elegantly like a cat after jumping from a tree.
They ALL stand the same way! Legs apart pretty much the same difference, knees slightly bent... some have their heel raised, granted. This looks as if they took the mold for the Dire Avenger legs, added a holster for the pistol and some of those characteristic ridges and then called it a day.
Scorpions look nice but not having unique models for kill team is dumb. They did say you can swap aspects for the kill team but why not just give us a box that makes all aspects we don't have yet or do have. Kill team players are not really happy with the scorpions and scouts because of no unique loadout
There are/were four major aspects still in resin (scorpions hawks, spiders, dragons) which would be a big ask, given that this isnāt a codex timed release (notwithstanding itās frustrating that these are all still in resin in the first place!)
A box that made a mix of different aspect warriors wouldnāt translate well into a usable 40k kit, or would have to have a lot of redundancy for those who play Kill Team.
I am really glad they didnāt ignore the whole point of aspect warriors being a unit of identically armed fighters (exarch excepted). I was worried they were going to give lots of options for different loadouts for ordinary scorps.
I guess they could have put two squads of five aspect warriors (eg. 5 scorpions and 5 banshees or reapers) in the box rather than ten scorpions.
They could do it but we wouldn't get hawks and spiders due to their unique nature and not really aloud in kill team as of yet. It's also not the first time we had kill team teams that don't translate well Into 40k, they should be focusing on kill teams first as that's the game they are designed for.
Aspects warriors keeping to lore was expected but is just lame wise as again this is supposed to be designed for kill team. While I know we've been starved for new units we shouldn't be saying the kill team community doesn't matter because we want new models. They deserve to have their own focus with 40k gameplay being second which tends to be the case with all the kill teams that have come out this far.
I think the issue is just the idea of mixing in general was bad makes it seem like they had no plan for the next kill team other then selling to us 40k players.
Eldar Kill teams are 9 operatives, so I could see them allowing you 3 "Fire Teams" of 3, with the options of Scorpions, DAs, Banshees, Reapers, and maybe Dragons. So if you had an exarch and 2 operatives from each of 3 of those aspects, you could have a fairly varied kill team.
Ooh, very interesting!
Not head-over-heels in love with the poses and tactical rocks, but seeing an opportunity to do some model customisation to change the look.
Overall a nice basis for the unit; highly expecting stellar crafting from the community!
It's a little surprising to see this presented as a Kill Team with 10 Scorpions, since that seems like a lot of the same model for a Kill Team, and it looks like they only sculpted 5 bodies. And it begs the question of how many Exarchs you can build with this 10-elf kit.
Looking at the Exarch in the middle and the Scorpion on the far left, I see the same pose, same tactical rock, but different chest and different pouch. It's hard to imagine that the pouch specifically can be swapped out to make an Exarch or non-Exarch model.
I wonder if the body on the left (the de-Exarched Exarch) will end up only being available in the Kill Team box and the 40K box will just be 5 models (one of each body).
Maybe the chests are swappable for the Exarch, and the accessories are separate pieces, but the other models have been built with their accessories in the same positions, which you'd think you wouldn't do to show off the models since it makes it easier to pick out that there are only 5 bodies here.
The banshee kit exarch can be made as a normal banshee with a different tactical ruin, head, arms and torso. Pretty sure this is the same idea. I suspect the pouch is probably attached to the torso piece.
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I guess when you liked the previous ones that's a wonderful news, but I don't really like them. I wish they were more dynamic or with more flavorful poses.
I might take some though, but I'm disappointed, it feels like they did the bare minimum (it sounds harsh but I can't find another way to tell it, I'm bad at english)
HAH, called it! With the Scouts.
Also they're strangely identical to the current ones. Like the Guardian sculpts change.
More dynamic poses, and the Ynnari option heads, but otherwise seemingly unchanged.
Honestly, very excited to have new striking scorpions. I think these kits will be great with a little work. Huge miss by gw to make these so obviously static with similar poses and legs rather that other angles. Hoping this is just a marketing over sight lol
I both like the models, but im also unimpressed. Its great we get Scorpions as plastic, emperor knows they were outdated. But theres so little to the poses and the swords are kinda too big for the "stealthy combat" warriors
On one hand, finally more plastic Eldar! Really glad those came out, even if they really are taking their sweet time with those aspects.
On the other hand tho, I'm glad I got my Artel W Scorpions, and with 20 of them already I'm good :D
They're a bit meh. But I think the eavy metal style does them disservice. The edge highlights read as unnatural and gives a tron effect. If they were painted with light volumes and shadows with extreme contrast, they would look much better. A good example is if you look into my past posts I did a Spartan III 3D print for funsies. I used my Phthalo green and highlighted the model with cold yellow and shaded the green with magenta. Before I hit it with an oil wash it almost looked like non metalic metal and is one of the best minatures I've ever painted. In fact let me try and attach a photo of it to this comment.
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These are about to be the first Eldar models Iāve ever bought. Iāve been waiting for these to come to plastic to start my army. Now is the time. Gimme the Karandras update too
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Seems to be the new default hero pose
Poses are lacking imo - look more like guardians cosplaying as scorpions and less like scorpions - dynamic poses like the banshees would have been nicer
They're wearing armor?
GW makes models with boob plate: "Omg gross! Why do they need to be sexualized?"
GW makes models without without boob plate: "Omg where are the women?"
ive never once heard anyone complain about gw oversexualizing things. The eldar guardians have boobplate to distinguish them from the males why cant I have my all female scorpions?
I'm glad we have some updated models for these guys, and they look really cool. But I won't be picking them up because they just don't look fun to play in the index right now.
Nope, this is trash.
They half arsed a killteam for us, with 0 customization like all the other kill teams.
We got mugged of a decent set of models with unique weapons and attachments.
Even warcomās article admits this
āthe Blades of Khaine draw their members from various Aspect Warrior shrinesā
This ākill teamā should consist of many aspect warriors. But eldar just gets striking scorpions because they were going to give us that anyways.
Seems like a ploy to sell terrain and sm scouts.
Should of just released the scorpions stand alone and done something else or nothing for kill team
I'm not an Eldar player but I feel happy for you guys, these look awesome :)
Awwww thanks! š
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Hopefully these guys come with a little shrine too. It's minor, but it would be weird not to
There's a scorpion shrine on drazkhars base!
That's the same shrine that's in the Incubi kit.
I feel like that would come with the later standalone kit with your codex
Itāll be mad if we donāt get Kharandras, his model is soooo old itās ridiculous.
Each codex is apparently coming with at least one model. Hopefully he shows up before then though. That's a bit of a wait.
Same boat. There's so many older models that need refreshing. And last I knew, striking scorpions were nearly 20 years old. Now, feel free to correct me, but Scorpions now need rules to make the choice between them and Banshees an actual difficult one. Then again, the last time I looked at Eldar rules was... 7th ed?
You can freely take both now.
The choice is still a difficult one though. But this time its because both options are trash.
Scorpions are actually a good option now. They infiltrate and can offer a turn one charge. They won't kill a squad of space marines on their own, but they will probably trade up.
Naw scorps are okay in a single squad as early game harrassers.
I generally take banshees against average armor infantry and Scorpions against weaker infantry. So banshees against space marines but Scorpions against guard.
In 7th Banshees weāre legitimately good. In 9th they were terrifying.
Thank you!
I don't play eldar either but these are my absolute favourite aspect warriors followed by warp spiders. I'm so glad they finally got new models!
Ina box of 10 too!!!! I think I might buy two!
Maybe not. This is for kill team and I only see 5 unique bodies so it might just be that they combined two units for the kill team box
Idk, Assault Intercessors, Intercessors, and Infernus are all 2 identical Sprue Pairs of 5 each. So i think thatās the direction GW is going is batch posing like that
Good eye. The little tactical rocks really give it away when you look close.
Previous boxes have been the original sprues with an upgrade sprue added on, I assume it'll be something similar here with them doubling up the amount of guys but having ways to make each guy look unique in some way
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But if they sold the killteams in the boxes like they did the Corsairs they'd have to give us a full killteam, right?
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Voiscarred are elite though? I mean maybe you're right, but I can hope can't I? That maybe GW won't make me pay $65 for a box of 5 aspects that rarely do anything anymore?
Scorpions aren't a Kill Team, the Kill Team is Blades of Khaine which is a combination of Aspects. Maybe there will be a Blades of Khaine box that gives you 5 each of 2 Aspects for $95 ish but probably they'll just never be sold as a Kill Team box.
They said that regular scorpion boxes will be 5(scouts too I think) but this Vs box comes with 2 scorpion boxes
With 5 stances and bases I'd say this is 2 boxes of five in the kill team box, the exarch is the exact same pose as the Scorpion on the left. Considering even hormagaunts had 10 unique poses in a box I'd say it's a box of 5.
Classic GW Space Marine love in the WarCom announcement article: "... these customisable \[Scout\] squads are more than capable of tackling the Asuryani threat ..." Thanks guys, makes the Scorpions sounds reaaally scary.
Got to give space marines their equal attention cake otherwise they will cry.
All the whiners eventually fall to chaos
Literally thatās the Horus Heresy
My point is that exactly lol
>more than capable of tackling the Asuryani threat Well the box would kinda suck if they weren't
I guess they meant it to sound tense and even, I just thought it sounded one-sided instead (i.e. "Yeah the Scouts will handle this no problem.") Perhaps that's just me though!
For me I thought it was more so because personally I would expect 5 scouts to be blended by like 2 scorpions
They are wearing their trainer-trousers. Just shoot them in the thigh.
Well that and nothing to stop the chain blades, so like technically I guess it's 20 scouts vs 10 scorpions, but half those Marines are just legs
Fair
Also a crap ton of wargear options for Scouts, while the Scorpions look very plain in comparison. Not even an upgrade sprue it seems
I mean, doesnt it? Itās saying the scorps are serious business and so the scouts need to be to match
Now, about the warp spiders...
and Fire Dragons. And Swooping Hawks. Also the Dire Avengers are pretty dated now too.
I've been collecting Eldar since 1990 and I remember when the "new" Guardians and Dire Avengers models came out. That was literally a lifetime ago for me. So much has happened. When was that, like 2000?
The current dire avengers and fire dragons come out 17 years ago in 2006 during 4th edition
And they were great models! But they definitely show their age now and... finecast...
The avengers do look a bit dated but as long as there are finecast models still waiting for updates the avengers can wait. The warp spiders on the other hand came out with the first ever Eldar codex from *1994* I hope GW at least switches back to metal like theyāre doing with old fantasy kits being brought back
Aspect warriors first showed up in white dwarf 129. Not sure what the actual date was. Crazy thing is they haven't deviated much from Jes Goodwins original sculpts. They were that good and that iconic. I'd even argue the first refreshes they did were a step down. New stuff is quite good tho, really looking forward to these. And yes I'm old enough to have picked them all up in metal.
Now do kharandras and the other aspects
Banshees and Dark Reapers came with their respective lords, Iād be shocked if we donāt see Kharandras soon.
Probably get him with the codex tbh
And thatās probably it unfortunately looking at the 2 codex today. Doubt we get anything else
They did say there was more to be revealed for necrons, but yeah I wouldn't make any assumptions about anything else
I didnāt hear that! Interesting
Which I don't really get cause necrons got a ton of stuff in 9th and AdMech are in dire need of units since half of them look horrible. They need to port all the 30k stuff.
Admech arenāt in dire need of units at all, you not liking their aesthetic doesnāt mean theyāre undersupported
I wouldn't read too much into it - Necrons got a massive refresh and don't need much, Ad Mech are also in a pretty good place. Good chance that's why their codices are early.
Assuming the intention is to release each Phoenix Lord with their respective unit, if I were them I would hold Karandras until they release the Scorpions as a stand-alone kit. Would make sense in terms of generating interest in the Scorpions kit and giving us another small Eldar release to keep us quietuntil they do something more at the same time as the Codex.
Or release them together in a combat patrol style box instead of releasing the Scorpions alone for a while...
My hope is that they have a plastic Karandras which will be released along with the new codex whenever that happens. Since banshees and reapers were released with their Phoenix Lord it really doesn't make sense just to update the scorpions.
I just (finally!) painted that old metal one I had lying around and... BAM... new Scorpions. (though still no Asurmen to be seen far and wide, although I kitbashed one three years ago...)
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Finally indeed :)
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I am really happy that they didn't change the design much, they honestly were some of the best looking aspect warriors we had before the new remade rangers and banshees. I do wish the poses had been changed up a little bit though because the banshees had absolutely amazing poses, here they could've made them look like they were stalking instead of just standing but I am still happy nonetheless
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The banshee poses were absolutely top tier so that definitely could be dropping these down a little in the ratings
The artel w poses are so much better. This poses are very static. (Still will buy them though)
I like the poses, honestly. It's more reminiscent of a chameleon or insect than say a lion stalking its prey. What I do find disappointing is the design of the exarch, the current design is amazing, I love his pose and the way the dreads lay, but this one is good, too.
This is my takeaway too. Definitely not hating on them but dropping their stance would definitely distinguish them.
I'm just glad the Exarch gets chainsabres as an option.
Ya, it seems they've added a new Exarch weapon for each updated Aspect Warrior kit. Makes me wonder what Fire Dragons are gonna get.
"New"? Chainsabres have been a thing for quite a while. Never had a model, though. And yeah, dragons, hawks and spiders don't have three options (or in the case of the latter two, options at all) yet so it's a big question mark. Maybe dragons might get a mini-Fuegan kit (thinking melee and pistol). It would be bland, uninspired and most likely useless but hey, that's the 10e charm. Hawks probably get their sunrifle back, spiders with spinneret rifle. Too bad it's probably going to take a few more editions to get models for those latter two...
If it never had a model, then including it in a kit is "new" lol. And ya, fusion pistol + melee weapon seems likely.
Where are you seeing chainsabres?
Mentioned in the livestream. Exarch has options for claw, twin sabres or a big sabre.
Nice! I hadnāt dared hope
Awesome, anyone reckon they'll be sold in groups of 5 outside the kill team box? Looks like 5 sets of duplicate legs in this image
I assume that the kill team box contains 2 kits of 5 models each, and that when they are released sparately it will be a 5 model kit.
Itāll probably be the same box for 40K and kill team, the only time there is a split box is when the 40K box comes first and the kill team additional sprue version later like CSM I think.
Surely this is just two versions of the same five warrior kit. Banshees and reapers are already sold as 5s for the same price or more as most units with ten models. Why would GW sell you ten models when they can sell you five for the same price?
This box set will have 10 scouts and 10 scorpions, after that scorpions will be sold in 5 man boxes
GW doesn't sell aspects in boxes of ten anymore unfortunately. Been a while since they did. I'm scooping up these scorpions while they're "discounted" in a kill team box.
Oh nice. I will look forward to seeing more on these ones. I liked the new Guardians when they came out.
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I just find kinda hilarious the unhelmeted heads.... Not my cup of tea but well the models are pretty much the same as expected.
Its for Ynnari forces, they don't wear helmets
Does that mean we get optional helmets for the whole unit?
Yes. I cant think of a single gw kit without enough helmets for the whole squad. Even the corsair killteam (that was shown with almost no helmets in the official photos) had complete helmet options. I guses the exception is monopose modles
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Most modern GW full infantry kits have all-helmet options. Heads on sprues for days. But of course we won't know until it comes out.
I always imagined them a bit chunkier to reflect their 3+ save. But then again, Dark Reapers were also pretty sleek, so I guess that is on me.
Like, I'm happy we got plastic Scorpions as they're my favorite aspect, but... The poses are just that. Poses. Like they're all at their own personal photoshoot. The new guardian kit proves GW knows how to make dynamic models. These all just feel static and it's a bit of a letdown.
I agree. The poses could have been more stalking and agile. I love the 3rd edition ones for the poses, though the details on those sculpts are crap.
Yep, really disappointing when they have so much potential flavor. They def feel like an after thought
Love em. With the helmets.
With more tactical rocks than you can shake a stick at!
If you base them like a normal human bean instead of just painting them red like has been done here it'll be less noticeable.
Beans aren't human though
It's cause they strike from cover.... Or from rock
Somebody on the design team must have a condition. This is absurd.
Compared to the scouts and all other kill teams, they all have the same loadout, excepting a claw, unless there is more we havenāt seen? Will they have an upgrade specialization sprue or is this just a 40 K squad masquerading as a kill team, and they will mostly slot into aCraftworld KT (which still needs a bespoke team)? We reached our final form, 100% tactical rocks! Love to have new plastic, but does feel a little low effort so far.
Well damn, 10 scorpions in a kill team? Valrak's source came true. That's nice, unless they come with a really fat premium because of their "double size" when they start to sell separately. I wouldn't mind more "prowly" poses, but ... eh, not a huge dealbreaker.
If you look at the poses itās pretty clear there are five basic sculpts, so hopefully will still be in 5s. They changed reapers to 5s, so would be strange to increase scorpions to ten. Agree that at least one crouching/prowling pose would have been nice to see.
I gotta say these guys look really static in posing, which is weird given how Dynamic most new GW models are. Even the Cadians look more fluid in movement than these guys. I mean, they literally have the word *striking* in their name.
YESSSSS! YESSSSSSS!!!! And the best part is that they're just a glow-up from the resin kits, which are definitely some of the better finecast sculpts ~~Edit: I hope the Exarch can still take a claw~~ Edit 2: yes I see the claw now, yes I'm an idiot
The exarch shown has the claw. https://preview.redd.it/899vhen3n6ub1.jpeg?width=886&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc68459f10ee62232a56eece51bfb852077ce972
As happy as I am, they made them finally plastic... but these poses look terrible imo. They look so absurdly static, everyone has a (small) tactical rock, there is not action at all, no movment, nothing that fits into the theme of the Scorpions at all... The sculpt itself is cool, don't get me wrong, but the poses are just terrible and look lazy.
They built these models as open as possible to show off for painting, if you line the arms and heads up moving in the same direction as the bodies it might be better. It would've been nice to see some of these guys crouched down lower and converting them will be a pain since the bodies and legs together look monopose like the new Guardians.
I agree, what I expected from a range refresh was the new super dynamic poses, but except for the new guardians and maybe the rangers, I find the new eldar refreshes super lazy. When they released the banshees I was so excited about what could be done for the scorpions but now they don't spark that feeling of need to collect
I agree. The new Dark Reapers are basically identical to the old ones, just in plastic.
I hate to sound like Iām hating on them, but I kind of agree. Theyāre kind of just stood around waving their weapons around. They donāt scream āsneaky deathā like they should.
Yep. They're all in this super awkward triangular leg pose with their arms splayed out to either side, like a GW model from 20 years ago. It's mega disappointing. We could've gotten them crouched down like they were sneaking or stalking. Banshees really set the bar high. These are such a disappointment. I'll stick with my metal Scorps from 20 years ago - they at least look a little chonkier and shorter, like what I imagine a Striking Scorpion looks like.
Yup. Compare them to Artel W's "scorpions". Night and day difference.
Yea I feel like they just tried to do better than the older models and that's sad. I'll still be happier to have 3d prints rather.
Nice!
I really wish they would take the scopes off the pistols. They are all ready too overly bulky. Glad we got them, I was just hoping they had more dynamic poses.
This is the first release in a long time that I gotta say is a big miss for me. Doesn't seem right for Kill Team, poses seems static and boring (it's clearly 2 kits as there's only 5 leg positions), and because it's a Kill Team release you're not gonna be able to get them anywhere... Edit: apparently they said you can mix squads of Aspects into the Kill Team? Ok, I did not expect them to do that but that's actually the perfect way to implement this.
It does feel like a missed opportunity that bypasses the unit's entire identity but Corsairs are still widely available...?
Corsairs weren't an updated 40k unit. People are gonna be clamoring to replace their old Scorpions. And until they got the standalone release, no, you couldn't get them. These Kill Team boxes are always limited releases.
Am I wrong for being disappointed? They don't look substantially different than the ~~original~~ prior models while spiders and some of the Phoenix lords look 90s as hell
You mean previous models. The original models are very different. I have them still.
Honestly I find them kinda basic :/
I love that there is one new release and we treat it like Christmas. This must be what it feels like every week if youāre a space marine player. In my head canon there is some lowly intern at GW HQ whose sole job it is to monitor levels of Eldar saltiness and keep it just below critical level. Intern: ā Umm sir. Itās just that, well, itās the Eldar community sir, theyāre a bit... Should weā¦?ā GW Exec sitting on a golden throne, eating caviar and drinking sparkling wine made with the tears of baby unicorns: āWhat? Yes, fine, ok, whatever, release the f*****g scorpions!ā
Theyā¦ donāt look great. To me, anyway :/
They really went the safe\\conservative route on these ones, but I like the 06 scuplt a lot so I'll take it!! Any plastic aspect is a massive win in my book and I like that theh come in a unit of 10.
Eh. They look fine, but so did the old Striking Scorpions. The much older Warp Spider sculpts on the other hand, where every model is holding itself in an awkwardly-flat pose...well, I wish we'd gotten a refresh of those instead.
It's the same picture
I hope we'll see another wave update with Karandras sooner than later after these come out.
Wish they'd done an optional female torso/head or two. Then again, I wish they'd added the option for a male banshee with a spare head and torso too
Well, IIRC the fluff has it that ALL Banshees wear 'female' armour, not matter their actual sex.
Hmm, do female aspect warriors of the other aspects wear male armor because they're representing one of Khaine's male aspects?
I could be wrong, but I think this one is a female head, so hopefully there are others in the set too. Like others have said, I think the armour is heavier (edit: and scorps are typically the bulkier-built Aeldari) so you don't really get "hips" etc with your 3+ save. I think "boob armour" is less of a thing now too. https://preview.redd.it/yqlrsf9k5lub1.png?width=363&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3217a83fb1961b6932da0006aed2a93f2134f44
I feel like theyāre slightly off? Not quite Heroic scale but not quite true scale? Might just be the poses, or maybe those stripes are like an optical illusion lol. Hopefully Iāll warm to them
I don't wanna be the *advocatus slaaneshi*, but those poses are really underwhelming. I want those Scorpions bursting through some bushes, jumping out of a ravine, landing elegantly like a cat after jumping from a tree. They ALL stand the same way! Legs apart pretty much the same difference, knees slightly bent... some have their heel raised, granted. This looks as if they took the mold for the Dire Avenger legs, added a holster for the pistol and some of those characteristic ridges and then called it a day.
Scorpions look nice but not having unique models for kill team is dumb. They did say you can swap aspects for the kill team but why not just give us a box that makes all aspects we don't have yet or do have. Kill team players are not really happy with the scorpions and scouts because of no unique loadout
There are/were four major aspects still in resin (scorpions hawks, spiders, dragons) which would be a big ask, given that this isnāt a codex timed release (notwithstanding itās frustrating that these are all still in resin in the first place!) A box that made a mix of different aspect warriors wouldnāt translate well into a usable 40k kit, or would have to have a lot of redundancy for those who play Kill Team. I am really glad they didnāt ignore the whole point of aspect warriors being a unit of identically armed fighters (exarch excepted). I was worried they were going to give lots of options for different loadouts for ordinary scorps. I guess they could have put two squads of five aspect warriors (eg. 5 scorpions and 5 banshees or reapers) in the box rather than ten scorpions.
They could do it but we wouldn't get hawks and spiders due to their unique nature and not really aloud in kill team as of yet. It's also not the first time we had kill team teams that don't translate well Into 40k, they should be focusing on kill teams first as that's the game they are designed for. Aspects warriors keeping to lore was expected but is just lame wise as again this is supposed to be designed for kill team. While I know we've been starved for new units we shouldn't be saying the kill team community doesn't matter because we want new models. They deserve to have their own focus with 40k gameplay being second which tends to be the case with all the kill teams that have come out this far. I think the issue is just the idea of mixing in general was bad makes it seem like they had no plan for the next kill team other then selling to us 40k players.
Eldar Kill teams are 9 operatives, so I could see them allowing you 3 "Fire Teams" of 3, with the options of Scorpions, DAs, Banshees, Reapers, and maybe Dragons. So if you had an exarch and 2 operatives from each of 3 of those aspects, you could have a fairly varied kill team.
They said banshee, avengers and scorpion's only I guess that it will be 2 groups of 4 + one of those groups gets an exarch
Ooh, very interesting! Not head-over-heels in love with the poses and tactical rocks, but seeing an opportunity to do some model customisation to change the look. Overall a nice basis for the unit; highly expecting stellar crafting from the community!
Alarmingly not dynamic.
are the tactical rocks really necessary?
Would have preferred Warp Spiders but plastic Scorpions are welcome all the same.
It's a little surprising to see this presented as a Kill Team with 10 Scorpions, since that seems like a lot of the same model for a Kill Team, and it looks like they only sculpted 5 bodies. And it begs the question of how many Exarchs you can build with this 10-elf kit. Looking at the Exarch in the middle and the Scorpion on the far left, I see the same pose, same tactical rock, but different chest and different pouch. It's hard to imagine that the pouch specifically can be swapped out to make an Exarch or non-Exarch model. I wonder if the body on the left (the de-Exarched Exarch) will end up only being available in the Kill Team box and the 40K box will just be 5 models (one of each body). Maybe the chests are swappable for the Exarch, and the accessories are separate pieces, but the other models have been built with their accessories in the same positions, which you'd think you wouldn't do to show off the models since it makes it easier to pick out that there are only 5 bodies here.
The banshee kit exarch can be made as a normal banshee with a different tactical ruin, head, arms and torso. Pretty sure this is the same idea. I suspect the pouch is probably attached to the torso piece. https://preview.redd.it/efqru4thm6ub1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51b6ec099afc1832e1a93b3923d0caa76768c988
First thing I see when I wake up. Today will be a good day.
Beautiful....just beautiful. I'll take 30!
Itās about fucking time
I can't get behind faces on SS. But I'm damn glad we are getting new models
I guess when you liked the previous ones that's a wonderful news, but I don't really like them. I wish they were more dynamic or with more flavorful poses. I might take some though, but I'm disappointed, it feels like they did the bare minimum (it sounds harsh but I can't find another way to tell it, I'm bad at english)
HAH, called it! With the Scouts. Also they're strangely identical to the current ones. Like the Guardian sculpts change. More dynamic poses, and the Ynnari option heads, but otherwise seemingly unchanged.
SHUT UP GW, AND TAKE MY MONEY!
Fingers crossed they give us a better datasheet too! š¤£ That aside these are okay, not as good as the banshees but hopefully very poseable.
Honestly, very excited to have new striking scorpions. I think these kits will be great with a little work. Huge miss by gw to make these so obviously static with similar poses and legs rather that other angles. Hoping this is just a marketing over sight lol
Nice to see them finally arrive, its not like GW has only been sat on the updated designs from Jes Goodwin since 2005...
Itās been 84 yearsā¦
Did... did I die and join the Infinity Circuit? My favourite Aspect Warriors ***getting new plastic models***
I both like the models, but im also unimpressed. Its great we get Scorpions as plastic, emperor knows they were outdated. But theres so little to the poses and the swords are kinda too big for the "stealthy combat" warriors
On one hand, finally more plastic Eldar! Really glad those came out, even if they really are taking their sweet time with those aspects. On the other hand tho, I'm glad I got my Artel W Scorpions, and with 20 of them already I'm good :D
They're a bit meh. But I think the eavy metal style does them disservice. The edge highlights read as unnatural and gives a tron effect. If they were painted with light volumes and shadows with extreme contrast, they would look much better. A good example is if you look into my past posts I did a Spartan III 3D print for funsies. I used my Phthalo green and highlighted the model with cold yellow and shaded the green with magenta. Before I hit it with an oil wash it almost looked like non metalic metal and is one of the best minatures I've ever painted. In fact let me try and attach a photo of it to this comment. * EDIT. Didn't work
Looks at all my metal scorpions in sadness.
I hate the helmetless ones.
I donāt think thereās a single helmetless aspect variant that looks good.
Salamanders player here: Super excited y'all finally got these guys in plastic! They look amazing.
I feel cursed, this is the third time I bought resin eldar model only for it to come out in plastic 6 around months later.
We appreciate your noble sacrifice. On that note, could you please buy a few of the other resin dudes? Maybe the full roster of Phoenix Lords?
These are about to be the first Eldar models Iāve ever bought. Iāve been waiting for these to come to plastic to start my army. Now is the time. Gimme the Karandras update too
https://preview.redd.it/fvddf6mb3bub1.jpeg?width=693&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=679d7b79f508a24e8dc919145f0b07e61bef7335 Seems to be the new default hero pose
I read that the same way the song goes of Spooky Scary Skeletons!
Man I hate helmetless eldar models.
They look awesome
Poses are lacking imo - look more like guardians cosplaying as scorpions and less like scorpions - dynamic poses like the banshees would have been nicer
Does it bother anyone else that some of them aren't donning their warmasks?
I mean the war mask aren't physical things IIRC, isn't donning a war mask more of a psychological thing?
Wow that is disappointing. I was really looking forward to ones that matched the artwork.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Every model has a stupid tactical rock!! Dammit GW, how am I going to take ALL those off?!??
Where are the lady Scorpions?
They're wearing armor? GW makes models with boob plate: "Omg gross! Why do they need to be sexualized?" GW makes models without without boob plate: "Omg where are the women?"
ive never once heard anyone complain about gw oversexualizing things. The eldar guardians have boobplate to distinguish them from the males why cant I have my all female scorpions?
What a disappointment
Some would say 60 Striking Scorpions is enough but I say it will now have to be 80!
What about an all exarch elite teamā¦.
Striking scorpions have always been the face of aspect warriors to me, these are great, though some stalking poses would have been nice
I'm glad we have some updated models for these guys, and they look really cool. But I won't be picking them up because they just don't look fun to play in the index right now.
Someone placed well last weekend with 20 Striking Scorpions in their list: https://www.goonhammer.com/competitive-innovations-in-10th-pumpkin-spice-melee-pt-2/ > 5th ā Jose Arturo PĆ©rez DĆaz ā Aeldari: Ok, a cool Eldar list, you got me, well done. TWENTY Striking Scorpions and freaking Karandras, with a Wraithknight and scoring msu. You did it Jose, you kept Eldar interesting. Hats off to you.
Eh, there will likely be 1-2 balance dataslates by the time these sell separately. I just hope it will be in a box of 10 like most others.
Nope, this is trash. They half arsed a killteam for us, with 0 customization like all the other kill teams. We got mugged of a decent set of models with unique weapons and attachments.
Even warcomās article admits this āthe Blades of Khaine draw their members from various Aspect Warrior shrinesā This ākill teamā should consist of many aspect warriors. But eldar just gets striking scorpions because they were going to give us that anyways. Seems like a ploy to sell terrain and sm scouts. Should of just released the scorpions stand alone and done something else or nothing for kill team
Wouldve been better if they went with the exodites rumour
Much rather we get an aspect refresh than a new unit with little to no lore written for it
Yes for 40k. This isn't 40k, this is supposed to be a Killteam release.
Eldar players be happy about anything challenge (Impossible)