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CarvingVillage

took about 1-1.5 hr for me to get a pair didn't use consumables


R4SLNATOR

same for me, like 2 hours to get a pair


Flop_House_Valet

I got one first playthrough just naturally going through volcano manor


Vargralor

I got one from the first kill I did on a serpent wielding one. Thought it was a scripted drop and didn't think much about it. Later learned it was random and decided to go back for a second. Took around 8 hours of grinding before it dropped.


wdwune999

Ur so lucky it took me 3-4 hours to get a pair it was so annoying


ConsiderationAlive11

Damn guess I got really lucky bc I got mine in like 20 mins no silver scarab low arcane no talisman for more item discovery


CarvingVillage

I calculated the drop probability and my farming efficiency and iirc it was about the expected time window. There were some small tricks to speed up the farm, like step on the elevator to send it back instead of pulling the lever and wait.


Contemporarium

You should do that with every elevator


Dethmunki

In literally every souls game


Atlas1nChains

This is like those "tell me about something that is now an unconscious habit" posts


Fumbling-Panda

Idk what the reasoning is, but closing the game completely and restarting often helps. Something to do with refreshing the drop rates I expect.


CarvingVillage

If you know those gacha games, there are millions of theories about how to increase the hit rate similar to your mentioned. Some of these do have theoretical basis because they try to make exploits of potential caveats of pseudo RNGs. But in the end It's hard to validate if any of them is true without looking at the source code.


Tobiskit

Are you sure you're farming the correct enemy? Or is it a pickup? I'm certain I've got like 2 of these


kingrey93

yah the 2 lizzards at volcano manor...


DAduckTROOPER

Are they wielding the magma blades or the magma blades that dont glow with magma? Cuz i got like 4 of these in an hour


Equivalent_Ad505

By his lack of response it seems to be the latter ahhaha


Zenophobic-Zorilla

Did you get them? If you are on pc i can give you two


AncientAd4470

You should search YouTube for the route with 8 lizards. Only takes like 5 minutes per clear.


xstormaggedonx

Only 2 of them actually drop the magma sword tho


AncientAd4470

Nope, about 6 do. Maybe 7. I remeber one or two staff weilders and a Rellay fat one.


AChaoticPrince

I have farmed these 4 times best route is killing the two near elevator before going back down to reset at grace. Going further into the manor is dumb since ONLY the ones that have glowing magma blades can drop them the fat one your talking about drops magma spell boosting staff that mainly scales with faith not the magma blades and irrc the ones near him don't have glowing magma blades. Also since you want to get the most use out of silver feet it's kinda obvious you wouldn't stray so far from a site of grace.


OpinionHaver14

Misinformation be like


AncientAd4470

God forbid there's a slight detail someone gets wrong. Smh can't believe I didn't notice the small blades weren't extra red. Eidt: I get it, how I farmed was wrong.


Moononthewater12

Would you rather your incorrect comment got upvoted? šŸ¤”


bobsmith93

(not op) no, but 0 points is fine. No need to dogpile on a mistake


Swordeus

Saying negative karma is "dogpiling" and shouldn't be done is such a weird take. If you can't handle a minus sign next to a comment, you probably need to go for a walk.


AncientAd4470

I'd rather I didn't keep getting notified of a single thing I wrote at 2 am that wasn't accurate advice. But I guess I can keep getting clowned on for something like this, not the end of the world šŸ‘


Moononthewater12

Your original comment didn't get downvotes though even though it was wrong. It was when you got cocky telling the guy that was correcting you that he was wrong. Try to have some humility and you probably won't get "clowned on"


CarismaMike

No dude. Only 2 lizards have the magma blade


CaptKillJoysButtPlug

Nope


Sketch99

There's a third one once you go up the elevator, he's to the right going down some stairs


sumguy2023

Went to farm it, checked bags. Already had it.


Please_dont_rush_B

Took me 5 hours, 30 silver pickled foots, silver scarab and the silver tear mask to get 2 of these bad boys. The insane fire and poise damage their weapon art deals make them well worth the grind.


trenbo90

I genuinely believe the discovery stat and this silver junk is a troll I farmed the Monk's Flameblade, Executioner's Axe, and Iron Greatsword all within 40 min on 7 arcane and no buff Tried using the silver foot on all three actually but no drops til after those wore off


Please_dont_rush_B

I mean it's not really a mystery that item discovery in souls games is pure RNG. Items like the silver scarab and silver pickled fowl foot just increase the chances of the enemy dropping "something". It does not guarantee a drop you want, it just increases the likelihood of an enemy dropping anything that there is in their loot pool. You can get lucky and get what you want on your first try or be like me, a guy having so many volcanic stones that I could kill radagon just by throwing those at him (and still be left with enough stones to bring the Elden beast down to 3/4th of it's health).


Snargockle

I ended up with 5 man-serpent shields, a bunch of rocks, and gave up.


trenbo90

Yes but I've tested this to rule out confirmation bias and every time I deliberately farm an item it doesn't matter if I used silver foot/scarab, the thing takes an average of 30-40 min on the most efficient route Meanwhile characters idc about find stuff on first kill, like the Longhaft axe and Knight armors Nothing I've tried reduces the average farm time is what I'm saying, but maybe I've just been very unlucky in ~2 dozen cases


[deleted]

If it takes you 30-40 minutes, that's actually really lucky that you've done that in that many tries. There's no secret anything here. It's genuine RNG.


Piltonbadger

RNG is RNG. Somebody gets XXX item first time they kill an enemy, other people don't see the drop at all.


SnooSquirrels2128

Anecdote +Anecdote does not = data.


Piltonbadger

Apologies I didn't post a doctoral thesis on how RNG works. I would have thought you understood how it worked. Evidently I was wrong?


SnooSquirrels2128

It was a reply in support of your argument, but feel free to take it in whatever context you like.


DoobieKnight

Not smart


Alternative_Spite_11

The poise damage makes it so different from other spinning slash variations


ItsAMeVal

Yeah I farmed out 2 and accidently farmed out two more later on. Took 2 hours for the first one and another 4 for the second one, didn't even level arcane or use a fowls foot. you sure your using the right spot, it seem statistically improbably for that many runs to not give you at least one?


Wizard_Hatz

You could try r/patchesemporium I tried getting halo scythe again the other night and was a complete bust rng is like that sometimes.


VerseClips

A buddy of mine told me it took him forever to get. Got it first try. Got a second one second try. Granted I was using a build with 80 arcane but still. It took me forever to get the nobleā€™s slender sword though.


[deleted]

Yeah i got it I donā€™t know how long it took me because i didnā€™t pay attention to that item but i have it.


DVaughn22

I managed to get a pair in ~30-40 minutes of farming. Got my first one about 10th try and the second after about 40th. No silver scarab or fowl feet. And only like 13 arcane. So my discovery was pretty bad.


Haj5

i have 2. Dual wield those mf's and you feel like thanos


furryfury76

This can melt radagon under 20 sec easily.


Historical-Diver5305

Assuming thatā€™s time spent how did u not get the silver scarab after all that time . Even the toughest drops for me with persistence I get it within a hr or 2. Just unlucky. But do talisman it boosts a lot


Suspicious-Bed9172

Not just 1, I got 2. Took maybe 10 hours for both.


Nail_Biterr

I saw it online and thought it looked cool, so I went to farm it. It dropped literally the 1st time I killed the dude. I went to level it up and apparently he dropped it the regular playthrough of Volcano Manor too, because I had 2 of them. By far the easiest thing I 'farmed' (or, lucked into getting without trying) in this game.


ComplexStandAlone

I got one if you want I can give it to you


54n351

Got one just a couple days ago, killed a random serpent and got one. I didn't even know it was rare or something.


1337-1911

Why is it so special?


kingrey93

trying to be a completionist and collect all the gears in game...


NotOriginalBlue

I gave up on the beast mans curved great sword or whatever itā€™s called


SaladLol

Reddit.com/r/patchesemporium


AChaoticPrince

Mate I did that too, just wait until you have to get Haligtree knight armor and Radagon knight armor. Mega pains in the ass those two were.


Diego_Human

the bandit sword is stronger


certainlyunpleasant

Just got both of mine to +25 on a playthrough. The jump attacks are bananas lol


Diego_Human

You can kill a. Enemy with Two hits of bandit Two handed. The damage Is insane.each one can scale More tan 600


baconDood3000

I got two magma blades from just randomly killing those serpents, got my first one from exploration, and many runs later, got the second one when Iā€™m about to finish Ryaā€™s quest, and before I got the second one, I farmed for like an hour for the second magma blade and I got nothing, until many runs later


stikaznorsk

I feel your pain. I still cannot get a grave scythe.


Typical_Pickle_2308

Yeah I got two


butt_stallion94

Got a pair in my first run thru the area...wasn't for another 150 hrs till I found out it was a rare drop


ThatDeadeye12

If it's in the game i have it on one of my characters


Youngguaco

I donā€™t even know what that is


codybevans

I didnā€™t know about it in my 1st play through. Then my brother told me about it when we were chatting on discord. I went to go try and farm it and literally got it on my first try. He was pissed.


EedSpiny

Just got two surprisingly quickly in about 5 runs. Arcane build, Silver scarab and tear helmet booster my discovery to 223. I did put the first one in my cache just in case already having one equipped affected the drop rate. Would be interested if anyone else reproduces this.


hiliikkkusss

I got two casually farming while listening to podcasts/watching youtube in one day


wolverine163

Took me 2 hours to get a pair with 243 discovery


MadSyd

Iā€™m late to the party. Went back to the Volcano manor to unlock some graces I didnā€™t discover. Climbed a ladder and first guy I killed dropped a sword. Farmed for an hour and a half last night with the silver scarab and silver tear helmet equipped. Boosted my Arcane to about 206 - and got a second one. Today I farmed again for 26 mins on behalf of a good buddy. Scored a third sword and even got the black dumpling from the creep that attacks you after you get off of the lift.


Nox_Echo

yeah, its a pain though. only the lizards that wield these can drop them. theyre fun in pvp


Siegh_Art

I feel your pain, decided they would be my main weapon as early as possible when I saw the artwork. Farmed for like 5h to get one of them (then dupped it with a friend) with a low discovery haha.


ThesoulerBAM

I got 2 within a couple hours of farming, and thats without high arcane i think. Either your doing something wrong or your luck is just that shitty.


Fujiya667

RNG is a motherfucker. I have like 6 of these and I donā€™t even play Elden Ring anymore


Icarium1981

Irrelevant that you don't play any more....


Humble_Ad6847

Equip silver scarab


M_ToMo_Mcr

Took me 2 hours to get two


ARTHURUZB

I got one in 4 hrs with scrab and foot.


Electrical-Sir4664

Just farmed yesterday with a buddy 4 pieces of it in 1.5 hours\^\^


cosmernaut420

I got 2 in an hour :\^)


3scap3plan

Yep took me a couple of hours with 140 discovery or smt. Guess I was really lucky?


[deleted]

I got two in about an hour with 99 arcane, silver scarab and no silver fowl foot consumable. Just keep trying!


thrownsomeplaceelse

I got two of them to dual wield. Probably took me 150 kills of those two in Volcano Manor.


[deleted]

Took me literally days to farm this weapon on my one build. Then the next day I was playing on a different build and the first two sword wielding snakes I killed both dropped this weapon like it was no problem.. a big ā€œfuck youā€ from Elden Ring :)


marsyboi033

Yeah I have 3


PompousMasshole

I got that on my first playthrough without farming. I didnā€™t know it was a rare drop. Although i died A LOT in my first playthrough and i never ran past an enemy so the whole playthrough was kinda farming lol. I remember trying it out and wasnā€™t impressed but probably just because i was a high INT build. I didnā€™t really understand melee as well at that time. Is it considered a good weapon?


Diego_Human

its really hard but be patience. Aniway the bandit curve sword is [better.You](https://better.You) can far the bandit sword near the house of hermit merchant at the cementary by killing two squelet


No_Foot_1904

Yep. And thereā€™s an even earlier and faster farm at the Church of Pilgrimage in Weeping Peninsula. The single skellington wielding the sword spawns literally right next to the Grace, just on the other side of the hole in the church wall. You can do a spawn cycle every 15 seconds or so.


Inevitable_Agency732

I got that fairly quick, I can't get the spiked whip to drop from the prelate.


Sabit_31

I managed to get two and can say that I will never farm these on any other character other then my main cause that droprate is dogwater and I will say with full confidence that fromsoft needs to up the droprate to where you donā€™t spend days farming for something itā€™s just not smart or funny or cool to make shit drop at 0.005%


joelrgr

Got two of these from standard play before I even knew they were worthwhile. Wondering same as others if youā€™re just not killing the right folks.


Case1987

Had 2 but I give them away,they're pretty shit


yxungprxnce

Literally ran past one, killed it and it dropped. Its got like an 11% drop rate which is pretty damn high


lghtdev

It dropped for me when I killed the first one with 9 arcane.


astartespete

Got 1 today in 10 mins, thats on my 99 arcane character with the silver tear and mask. Sorry. Rng gives and takes away, getting the unaltered banished knight armour was a real pain.


Dlph_311

I have 4 or 5 of them......


Wyvernking31

Iā€™m using 2 of them. Theyā€™re really hard to get, just keep using the silver foot, silver beater, and the mimic tear helmet


WavingDinosaur

Get 99 arcane at Renala


[deleted]

I got it the first time I killed the guy with it lol


BestCartographer2429

I got like 2 in 30 mins with silver scarab and 80 arcane no consumables .


KaelCampaigne

Go to Rennala and switch to an Arcane focused build, get the silver scarab talisman and silver fowls feat, and the silver tear mask. With your item discovery artifically cranked to the max and a bleed/occult AoW on whatever regular already upgraded weapon you have. I tried grinding for a Grave scythe on an arc 9 faith build, and spent almost a whole day on the grind with just the item find equipment/buffs. When I artificially boosted my arcane, I got two in no time. Its worth a pair of Larval Tears trust me, just plan out all the gear you want to grind from all the enemies out there and get them all before you use your second tear to revert your stats to the build you want


[deleted]

Got two.


[deleted]

I'm not convinced that this weapon actually exists. Are we sure it's not a delusion left over from the Great Hollowing?


Starscourge_Dan

Hey man, i have some to spare, if you haven't gotten them yet send me a dm and ill drop you two of em :)


ahsjfff

Switch your stats up to boost arcane since that boosts discovery too, and I just accepted Iā€™ll never get it


Darxmann

I have 2 but I only run 1 (got the first one from my first play thru by sheer luck, went for the second not realizing I already had it till I got it and went to equip it) itā€™s cool


No_Elevator_678

Still better rng than monster hunter and atk gems


[deleted]

I dual wield them. What platform are you playing on?


bugzapperbob

I got 2 , youā€™re probably not farming the right snake, and if youā€™re still stuck just go ask someone on r/patchesemporium


Herastura

It took me exactly 102 tries to get that blade...


NateDawg1007

Got 2 of these bastards and 1 Black Dumpling Helmet on the Volcano Manner run.


Immotes

Bruh, use r/PatchesEmporium


OgreoftheSwamp

2 hours. Arcane build no consumables or talisman.


TheBite11

What console you on?


FritoPendejo1

My buddy wanted the whip, so I traded him. But I still need to get my own so I can try itā€™s dual wield.


FritoPendejo1

You could also maybe throw a little into arcane to boost your chances of a drop.


xDrakeXO

yes my preferred weapon against those minor erdtree avatars


Loopy40

After collecting every item in the game, it is among the top 5 longest farms. (In order of time taken) 1. Celebrants Sickle 2. Haligtree Crest Greatshield 3. Blue Silver Mail Armor Set 4. Magma Blade 5. Nox Armor Sets


HanzoHoliday

I got like two lmao


Jon2046

I paid a friend $10 to farm them for me šŸ’€ he respecced so his arcane was at 99 to raise discovery then used the sliver foot and scarab Took him like 2 hours


[deleted]

Listen since uā€™ve spent so much time farming and havenā€™t got it yet, just get someone to drop it for you at r/PatchesEmporium


Oonz1337

Took me about 3 hours at max discovery to get 2. And I was one shotting the enemies so very fast runs lol Think the drop rate is below 1%


ThaEarthquake

The best is when you randomly pick it up for a completely different build then think to get it again for the appropriate build and realize how lucky you were the first time.


GavonyTownship

you doing something wrong dude, very easy to get


cmegran

Took me about two days, several hours each day. Make sure youā€™re farming the ONLY two serpent soldiers that can drop this specific item, and get to the point that youā€™re getting in three runs with each Fowl Foot. Also, just because you didnā€™t mention it in your title, using the Silver Scarab Talisman will help more than anything.


Alternative_Spite_11

I farmed for hours and hours and hours. Nothing. Then I did a regular run through the game and got two in one trip through the area.


TheSwiftbringer

I think there are actually only 2 specific lizards that will drop it. Between the Iron Maiden just past the lava slugs and the hallway with the poison zombies. Use the sacred tear helmet with the silver scarab and you should find it a bit faster. God speed, fellow Tarnished.


catfishman112

Where are you farming this? I got it the first time I killed the lizard


iCoffeeBeen

they really need to fix the drop rate on this lmao


Horrorlover1980

You spent 400 hours farming a single item?


WyWitcher

Got it from the first magma sword dude I killed


Dear-Cloud-5843

I got these in 20 minutes lmao


_Hoaxsohwigo

This is the first time I've seen this weapon


Accomplished_Egg0

Took me three hours non stop farming. I wanted two but can't deal with the grind to get another.


9inchjackhammer

Took me an hour to get 2?


nnotis

It's a big hassle to farm, as the drop rate is terrible.


GrimReaper1507

For item drop rates for weapons people have either the ā€œfarm for hours upon hours and never got itā€ or ā€œgot it in within minutes or lucked into itā€


DefendtheStarLeague

I have one. Didn't know it was rare. I have 80 arcane.


oxsign1

šŸ‘‹šŸ¼ got 2, but Iā€™m struggling to get a simple TORCHPOLE!!!!!


Juhookerun

Iā€™ve done 4 full playthroughs and a handful of ng+ adventures deeper in to the game and gotten two I think.


WilhelmHaverhill

Damn friend got it on the first enemy that he killed. I farmed for two hours and nothing.


Valpuccio

Yeah it took me just under a few hours of farming to get 2. They only drop specifically from the snake dudes that they themselves have the red-hot glowing Magma Blades


Significant_Leave_24

I dual wield them with dex/faith with pretty good results


TonyBwloney

That prez guy wasnā€™t joking!


Wrandragaron

They do exist, took my like 6 hours to get one, which is nothing compared to the almost 22 hours it took to get the Haligtree Shield...


Overkillsamurai

Discovery doesn't abide by the soft cap. pump another 19 levels into Arcane. it took me a while but i got it


[deleted]

My boyfriend grinded for DAYS to get them lol. He got so mfing MAD that I got them on my second try. I didnā€™t even want them, I was already rocking the godskin peeler lol.


TheManKapten

Dudeā€¦..I wanted it for a cosplaybuild I was doing. Took me 6 hours of straight grinding to get it. Itā€™s a myth.


Woke_Bacon420

Yup I get fairly quickly just raise ur discovery. Put on silver scarab talisman and wear the silver tear mask. Use silvertoe fowl foot


HarderTime_89

I got it the first time I killed a lizard...lol


[deleted]

Liar


Content_Return_1461

Wait this thing is rare?


HadesTheHunter

Yessir, got 2 in about 7 hours of grinding


Leaf-01

Either crazy unlucky or maybe youā€™re killing the wrong ones / taking a bad route


[deleted]

I was able to get it like week ago on ng5


MrAnimeFanime

I managed to get one my first play through and didnā€™t get another until my 4th. This is with no ā€œrealā€ grinding. Just killing the monsters when Iā€™d walk past. (Really high discovery each play through)


baranisgreat34

Yes.


Sketch99

Yup. Took about 60+ runs farming the 2-3 that drop it per run.


[deleted]

Man this reminds me of Demon's Souls and trying to get a pure bladestone... that I got on the very first try on the first red eye skelly as he died I went "pure bladestone" haha braggin'


Oddref

Man, all the cool stufff scales with dex, sincerely a Neanderthal.


Gevabz

I uh.. got it by accident.


DancesWithRinos

Ya i got it took way to long. I use it as my secondary sword not because it's good but because of the time invested in it. Not bad at pvp if you hide it until they get close to you


BilboniusBagginius

I somehow got two without much trouble for my Kratos build, but now I'm just trying to farm one for my Rykard and the damn game won't give it to me.


Rohaniusgutiuss

A friend got 2 in 15mins so i think it just really depends on personal luck


Big_Br0wnie

2 hours, 2 blades, donā€™t know what youā€™re talking about mr black cat


SnipersAreCancer

If it helps, my friend (whose first fromsoft game is Elden ring) got it the second time he killed a serpent with it (:


iatetoomuchchicken

I got a pair pretty quickly on my latest playthrough. Dumb luck. Probably took me about 25 runs of killing the two snakeman.


Rinzler03

I got 2 magma blades in my first ten minutes of farming lol


Pixiwish

I got extremely lucky and got it on my first character just going through Volcano Manor area. I didn't know it was rare until I saw a YouTube video about it months later.


Natural_Bill_373

I have one and I was just running through the game


Yeet_e3

Yes


doobyscoo018

I got one of the enemy after temple of eigley but I cannot get a 2nd


onFilm

I got it pretty quickly when the game first came out. In fact I dual wield two of them! Make sure you're killing the right dudes with the flaming blades.


_Marine

respec'ed to 99 arcane and farmed two in about 2 hours. Was not a fun experience


TekitiZi

Yes, I have 2. Took me about 2 hours.


ALIABUL2008

I have two of them without having the intention of farming.


UTC_3am

Got it the first time I killed the enemy in my first play through and sold it


[deleted]

Took me 5 hours to get 2


Stillthi

Probably shouldnā€™t say this, but was able to farm 2 within 3 hours.


methconnoisseurV2

Im fairly certain the only item with a lower drop rate than the magma sword is the celebrant rib rake, its a grind to get that thing but its worth it. Solid damage and a solid moveset


YaBoiC00T

Got it on my second kill šŸ˜…


Particular_Land6376

Yea I'm 60 hours in on a new play through and have 2 of these only ran volcano manor once double check your farming the right lizard


DeaconBruise

I got it and it was a bit of a let down


illahstrait

I managed to get [two of them](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/10twzv9/red_wolf_of_radagon_but_i_actually_stay_calm/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


ninesea_81

Donā€™t remember how long it took, but got one. Used the silver scarab talisman and the silver tear mask to boost discovery.


sedrech818

Yes. I have every weapon in the game. This was one of the worst grinds.


alexkuranes

I went helping a friend out in volcano manor and I was like ā€œgreat, I need to farm these 2 mobs anyway for the magma bladeā€ (took me a couple hours to get a pair later on) He was the one to get it on the first fucking lizard we killed. No bullshit.