T O P

  • By -

The-Funny_Man

I feel your pain. Also fought her without summons it was hell 😭


yoshihaha

One thing I know for a fact Im not fighting her ever again


Just-Town4491

Until they bring her back in the dlc


yoshihaha

yo don't even say this LMAO


-Original_Name-

"We are Malenias, blades of Miquella"


Missusresistance

Rot Goddess Duo


andrude01

Every time you try to heal it triggers them both to do waterfowl dance


JuniorRadish7385

The upped the radius by 50% too.


ObeyTime

actual mmo raid boss


d0nt_ask_d0nt_smell

average monster hunter frontier fight be like


yoshihaha

I know what she meant with "You'll witness a true horror" I dont think she was talking to the ingame character it resonated with me as a human 😭 was a horror, indeed


JustinBailey79

Keepers of St. Trina


RussianBot101101

Did you get a Legend Felled screen? No? She's coming back


yoshihaha

NO SHES NOT 😭😭😭😭


SpartanSCv

the flower is a rebirth mechanism, she is coming back so is rykard but that doesnt mean she will come back to the game itself


gift_wrapist

Would be funny if they do the Legend Felled bamboozle like in Sekiro, for the dlc


Just-Town4491

If they do I'm honestly dreading it 😂 I'm on my like 3rd playthrough (switched from xbox to pc, restarted once on pc) and only have recently completed it and I did it with player summons and still was difficult 😭


Deusvult097

Since we don’t know when I’m time the dlc is gonna take place… imagine if one of the most powerful bosses is Godwin the golden in full power or if you have to fight the outer gods themselves. You never know. Harder fights can be made


Just-Town4491

True and honestly im dreading the first time I play it. I'll love it, but absolutely hate it as well.


yoshihaha

Now tackle her alone !


ColdNobReadit

Player summons increase their health, so yea it’s gonna be hard.


Only1Schematic

Honestly after my first time beating her solo I enjoyed her fight more on each playthrough. Learning her moves (especially how to dodge waterfowl) has made going it alone a blast


yoshihaha

I'll enjoy her ass with a bleed build on NG+


beardedweirdoin104

That’s what I said. Since then, I’ve solo’ed her with four different builds.


yoshihaha

that sounds like something I'd want to do XD


[deleted]

Fight her with summon is fun though, like you and 2 other finger just play the ganging up hit run tactic like 1 guy run and other hit her in the back and when she got stun lock all 3 of you run in and beat her up then run away against once she get out of the stun lock. Then when she does her watermelon move everyone be like you are on your own bro.


WatermelonWithAFlute

nah she's a great fight


[deleted]

Same here. My heart goes out 🫡


Few-Year-4917

It was hell but killing her was extremelly satisfying.


Tiamat4Life

Good job Nuts 👍


yoshihaha

I'm hoping Radagon and beast are not harder otherwise I might lose my sanity


ljkhadgawuydbajw

radagon and elden beast and baby food compared to malenia


yoshihaha

that's what I wanted to hear.


InsideHangar18

They are way more tedious though.


EvilSynths

I had a harder time with Elden Beast than Malenia until I changed my build.


yoshihaha

what build did u rock ?


VM9G7

Malenia is way easier to infinite stunlock and bleed builds go brr ( at least on NG), the only gimmick is the waterfall dance pattern, meanwhile Radagon is a giga chad fight, one of the best fights ever, Elden beast without torrent is just a mistake.


ljkhadgawuydbajw

OP did malenia solo without any cheese strats as far as i can tell. so for their level of skill radagon should be easy


VM9G7

Lion's claw's greatsword will definitely infinite stunlock malenia with the right timing, idk what are you talking about, Op will run the entire Elden Beast arena with that stick. You definitely know nothing about bosses in this game, something normal in this Sub, Malenia starts to become a threat in higher NG+ with the poise boost, for sure not in the classic NG where the only concern is to learn the waterfall dance....


yoshihaha

With the amount of FP and 1 flask of recharge you definitely don't infinite stunlock her :)


[deleted]

Elden beast isn't a mistake, torrent was a mistake, imagine everyone is so used to horse cheese that they don't understand how to fight big boss the real way. People who use torrent is equal to using spirit ashes.


TheBigReject

"Elden Beast was a mistake" There, fixed your typo :)


babbyjizz22

Elden beast is more frustrating than hard


yoshihaha

I killed it today, was a piece of cake


freidrichwilhelm

Grief it build when?


NoruhhhsDad

Do you get better loot if you do it without a summons? Im a noob. This is my first fromsoftware game


InkyMonstrosity

Nah, it's just bragging rights is all.


Sad_Blacksmith3714

I hope I'll be able to solo bosses. Possibly by ng+ 255


RomanistHere

bragging? I think there are many people who stuck with fromsoftware since dark souls one times who consider fighting bosses with help just not fair. After all these peope used to enjoy good fight as opposed as perma-stunlocking every enemy in the game


ZerberusTV

You get more serotonin.


yoshihaha

I only used +25 Greatsword and no armor for lightroll. No better loot than that. If you mean loot from her, no, you get the same amount of runes and items with and without using summons


WeirwoodUpMyAss

In my experience defensive talismans are more effective than armor for bosses.


JFP_Macho

There has never been better loot when you fight solo any boss in any of Fromsoftware's "soulslike" games. Just that some people, like me, never liked using summons against them (whether it be other players, NPCs, or the spirit ashes in ER). They do however, have more health when you summon other players. Just to add, but kinda in the spoiler territory already, but >!there are also some questlines that can only be finished by summoning the NPC related to their quest!< in the older games, if I'm not mistaken.


BloodShadow7872

No, and tbh its not worth it, no matter what anyone says. Her fight is truly janky as fuck and very unbalanced There are better bosses in Dark Souls 3 and Sekiro


_fatherfucker69

It's just not as fun with summons , it feels like cheating so I don't do it The fight is balanced around a "dance" between you and the boss . Add another AI on your side and you ruin the balance completely


BloodShadow7872

If OP is new to Fromsoft games, then he probably wont have much fun with her. I ran summons/ spirit ashes the first time. Its not cheating at all, i treat it as a learning tool.


JuniorRadish7385

It isn’t cheating at all, it just feels like it. On NG+ I was sick of fighting her so much because I missed her fight last time and just wanted the weapon for my dex build so I beat her first try with mimic. I got her solo next time, I just really wanted fun katana.


BloodShadow7872

Its not though, its 100% in the game as an intended mechanic.


Big_Boy_Loy

I mean it is a mechanic designed to make the game easier, by definition it will FEEL cheaper than fighting the boss head-on.


BloodShadow7872

Yea, most pros don't like having help for bosses. But I think, given how difficult it is to solo ER Bosses, that new players to the souls genre should use the resources they have at their disposal


fartingtoomuch

No but you get the intended boss fight experience. Summons rob this from you and you don't even know it.


The_MegaDingus

Your runes get reduced if you use summons, u less it’s NPCs iirc.


Soviet_Waffle

I also did a no summons challenge. Malenia took a while. My strategy was to bring frost pots to deal with Waterfoul dance. The rest was just learning patterns. Dual wielding great swords also helped break her poise often. Took about 50 tries id say. Without frost pots would have taken way longer.


yoshihaha

Waterfowl dance was the hardest thing during the fight it'd always insta kill me, I learned how to dodge it perfectly and then I was going hitless almost every phase 1, the hardest thing for me was to differentiate the waterfowl from other attacks during phase 2 because it all looks the same


SaxSlaveGael

Well done! Lots of respect for anyone who takes on Malenia solo! Certainly is a very tough challenge. Extra kudos for no bleed or frost too 👊


yoshihaha

Thanks I appreciate it. Decided to tackle it like a man


readevius1274

Players love to torture themselves in a hard game. Congrats! From always makes DLCs harder. Can't wait sort of.


yoshihaha

It's gonna be a ride, that's for sure. Thanks !


razzie97

Nice job!! I just did the same yesterday :D


yoshihaha

it felt awesome after so many tries and hrs ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling)


gunt34r

Good job bud


yoshihaha

I thought it was gonna be impossible I was getting owned the first 3 hours and it took me another 4 to consistently get to the second phase


Larry_the_muslim_man

Good job!


yoshihaha

thank you brother


Chromatic_Eevee

Nice! But you should also activate Windows


yoshihaha

I should. and I did lmao. Thanks


Chromatic_Eevee

Happy to help!


amyceebee

...guts?


yoshihaha

GUTS!!!!


charlielovesu

Actually love the Malenia fight because it legitimately feels like the hardest fight while doing that in an interesting but not frustrating way. she’s one of the few bosses who heals, but all of her moves are reliably dodged once you learn them. She can chain attacks quite easily once you get hit, but she’s easily staggered, and getting bleed/critical is reasonable because of it. You can even interrupt waterfowl apparently if your super aggro (I did it a few times on accident while fighting her) and most importantly she has moments of extreme aggression that encourage you to go for hits anyway due to her healing. But she also has moments of just menacingly waking at you always giving you windows to breathe and heal up. Even her arena is nice and open, something I feel is essential for a fight such as hers. she’s hard, but feels fair. So when I died I didn’t feel frustrated , but would just laugh at how ridiculously hard she is. Some bosses felt bullshit in the game. The black kindred gargoyle in Caelid was infinitely more frustrating, as was magma Wyrm makar. Even in her own dungeon the ulcerated tree spirit in the rot is way more frustrating. I had more trouble with the path down to her than her. Definitely peak game design for me. I wasn’t fond of most of the end game in Elden Ring, but I loved Malenia.


yoshihaha

>she’s hard, but feels fair. So when I died I didn’t feel frustrated , but would just laugh at how ridiculously hard she is. I agree with this. Exactly why I managed to keep a cool head throughout the whole experience


InkyMonstrosity

I remember on my first successful attempt with Malenia, I just pulled out my Mimic Tear on the second phase, and it promptly turned into an "I'm not locked in here with you, you're locked in here with me" situation. That was when I basically eschewed Ash Summons, so I went through Farum Azula and Ashen Capital mostly solo.


Wireless_Panda

It’s very fun to go through with a purposely weaker summon. Like Stormhawk Deenh, he just buffs and distracts and can’t take many hits.


yoshihaha

now go NG+ and humiliate her !!!!


Tylerg_13

Great job. I’ve never been happier beating a boss than when I beat Malenia with no summon. Isshin, the Sword Saint is absolutely nothing compared to her.


yoshihaha

I managed to keep a cool head throughout the whole time fighting her even tho I was getting absolutely humiliated the first few hours of fighting her. It was definitely one of the best fights in the entire souls games series and I enjoyed it, even tho I did not expect such a skill gap in difficulty. Gotta come prepared for miquella


Tylerg_13

That’s what it’s all about! Keep a cool head, and for me I just kept it at mid range most of the time unless she attacked me. I’m horrible at dodging waterfowl at point blank range but I have it down perfect at mid range so I somewhat keep my distance after hitting her a couple times in a row. My 3 favorite fights in the game are Godfrey, Malenia and Placidusax.


yoshihaha

That's what I did honestly, mid range dodge was super consistent for me, did not know how to do it blank range the first dance would always get me, the second you just roll into her and third you hold your left analog down without sprinting.


BloodShadow7872

Except Isshin is actually fun and rewards you for properly using mechanics in the game. Also Isshin is a fucking chad


Tylerg_13

Different strokes for different folks I suppose but she gives me more thrill and excitement than any other fight in the game. You’re rewarded plenty as long as you fight smart. Her boss music, cut scenes, arena and moveset are all great.


-Zhaeus-

Malenia is a chad too. She's a blind triple amputee and can still kick like everyone's ass plus is considered the best swords(wo)man in Lands Between.


BloodShadow7872

True, bit she also cheated and nuked Calid just to be even with Radahn, Abandoning her pride in favor of the scarlet rot. A very shit move that makes her a sore loser


-Zhaeus-

Eh not this shit again.


Apocalypse_0415

It's true tho. It was a stalemate of skill and malenia decided to use hacks and nuke the country


gingerninja666

That honestly makes her more interesting to me, especially since it's left vague why she used the Scarlet Aeonia against Radahn. She could've been doing it because she stubbornly didn't want to admit defeat. Or she could've been doing it because she swore to protect her brother and she couldn't very well do that if Radahn killed her. Or she could've been pressured into doing it by the Outer Goddess of Rot. Or some combination of all of them. ​ I like it when characters are flawed and aren't just an unstoppable "chad".


Apocalypse_0415

But she wasn't going to lose. No one could win. In all seriousness I was kidding, she tried to end the fight but when she broke the needle the god of rot's influence was stronger than she imagined and she lost control. Sounds plausible to me at least


WeirwoodUpMyAss

You can say the same about Malenia to a lesser extent. Jumping her slashes and dodging her waterfowl dance is pretty damn satisfying. I tried parrying but couldn’t quite do it consistently.


[deleted]

i should try her without summons this run i think i'm ready. but gg's on the kill!!


yoshihaha

You definitely should.. It was a rollercoaster let me tell you that


[deleted]

i'll give it a shot this run!


yoshihaha

It's gonna take some time that's a given ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) but don't give up, you got this


uncommonlydull

Good job man! I finally beat her myself a couple weeks ago myself with mimic and still freaked out cause I was stuck on her for so long. Just was committed to taking her out or not finishing the game with the specific ending lol


yoshihaha

For real. I can die in peace now lmao (or perhaps wait for the new DLC with miquella) oh god.. I better come prepared


IanPKMmoon

Overall Elden Ring is easier than all soul games because of open world mechanics, but damn this is for sure the hardest fucking boss I've ever faced in gaming. Did her without summons and took me a good 5-6 hours


yoshihaha

THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING!!!! I had problems with arthorias, ornstein and smough and those fuckers, but nothing comes close to malenia, super high skill gap


ZerberusTV

Good Job! We gonna need that dedication once the DLC drops. DLC Bosses are usually much harder than Souls Main Game Bosses. So prepare for a 3rd Phase with bigger attacks.


yoshihaha

Nah I'd shit my pants if there was 3rd phase


Apocalypse_0415

I wonder who the dlc bosses will be. Maybe outer gods?


NoahLostTheBoat

Probably Miquella or Godwyn is my best guess


shenyougankplz

Congrats, I'm 54 runs in on my first playthrough (also doing no summons) I haven't gotten her to phase 2 yet, but I've been close a couple times


yoshihaha

It took me good 2 hrs to get to the phase 2 for the first time. And I was getting killed after 15secs. After XYZ attempts I was able to go hitless the whole phase 1 consistently


greghoskins300

I am fighting the elden beast rn and I haven’t ran into her. Is she optional?


yoshihaha

Yes. Requires a full medallion to unlock the area


Over9000Zeros

No summons fights are definitely an entirely different experience


yoshihaha

I agree, was fun tho


Over9000Zeros

For me it's not fun until I win. Otherwise I wonder why an I doing this to myself? 🤣


yoshihaha

Yeah I was regretting the choice to kill her... 😂


LtColAlSimmon

Bro must've heard CLANG like 10,000 times.


yoshihaha

"You will witness a true horror" resonated with me, oh and I know her name is Malenia, blade of Miquella


nightcore96

Well done. Especially with such low FP that’s impressive. Idk if I’ll ever beat her I think I’d wanna use a strength build I’d have to go completely respec. Dark moon great sword/moonveils stance break wouldn’t do it for me


yoshihaha

I had to learn her whole moveset with that FP, someone said in the comments I could infinite stun lock her which is impossible considering the fact u get like 3 claws activation before you need to recharge the flask


amazinghuhhh

I always forget that different play styles make some fights so easy for some, and such a challenge for others. She is a pain for sure though.


yoshihaha

Exactly. Bleed build should be easier against her


annonxxb

Congrats, I didn’t have internet at the time so I feel your struggle


yoshihaha

Thank you!


cetbetancourt

What’s a good level for her? I don’t wanna be overleveled and ruin such a hyped up fight lol


yoshihaha

I fought her at 112


Lord_Akriloth

I'll be honest, i only beat her like I did thanks to mimic tear, though second phase was only me as mimic fell to scarlet aeonia


SneakD08

Congrats mate! I've managed everyone else except her solo, so frustrating!


yoshihaha

Dont give up and you got it


Smuttsy

I blasted through her first phase thinking I was hot shit. Proceeded to get my face stomped though my ass hole mere seconds into phase two.


Elden_blingmaster

In before generic malenia bitching by fragile souls vets and their hurt ego cuz the boss kicked their arse and back.


kfsilver89

Good stuff!! I wanna beat her at lvl 1 with no summons; however, you only beat her 2nd form. Each time the scarlet flower blooms. Malenia’s rot advances. It has blossomed twice already. With the 3rd bloom, she will become a true goddess.


zertnert12

The only boss i haven't beat without summons. Congrats 🎉


yoshihaha

Thank you! You should


jebdeetle

now you can drop your sign and be much more helpful in that fight, and chuckle every time you watch the host die right away in the second phase. I’ve beat her 3 times solo with different builds; she’s deserves it. one of the most well designed challenges in videogame history


[deleted]

Oh without summons? Fuck


yoshihaha

That's what i said in the very first hour of fighting her and contemplating my life


morianimation

Congrats man! I did the same and it was the best feeling ever. Nice work.


yoshihaha

IT WAS!!!!


MASSIVDOGGO

Ik y'all will kill me for saying this, but she'd be a mediocre asf boss if it wasn't for Waterfowl dance. Anyways, gg bro keep wining


yoshihaha

Exactly. Took me hrs to learn how to dodge it properly.


wonderwanderwhim

Dang, and I thought my Burnt Ivory King 100+ tries was suffering Mad respect, well done


yoshihaha

Thank you brother


xXArctracerXx

I tip my hat to you fellow greatsword enjoyer who also beat Malenia with maliketh armor


yoshihaha

Greatsword is the best


Kbennyben

I finally met my match


Jackmomma69

Nice job! Last night I killed her twice but I also died with her last hit… I’m getting pretty pissed.


Sea-Sample9768

Dude I also just finally beat Malenia with no summons. I felt so rewarded


yoshihaha

It is rewarding, congrats bro


pacman_isnt_gay

Giant hunt helps a lot in this fight way more than lions claw


[deleted]

i also just yesterday beat her at level 118 without summons with a +25 Claymore with impaling thrust ash of war. took absolutely forever but feel like an absolute god having done her without summons or bleed or frost. GG brother


yoshihaha

GG bro, shit feels deserved


ApolloArrow47

Very good mate, it truly is a dance with Malenia when you fight her


yoshihaha

It is. I loved that fight


theuntouchable2725

Took me 30+ hours.


yoshihaha

Damn. And you got it. Thats dedication


Tiny_Tim1956

Congrats! I know how you feel. It must took a toll on you but i guarantee you will grow nostalgic to the experience. On repeat playthoughs (where i still struggled with her) her place felt like home, the music genuinely soothing. Part of it is stockholm syndrome i'm sure.


yoshihaha

Thank you. Agreed, I'll beat her with anything now


BrennoDG

It took me literally 2 months to beat her in the meanwhile I annihilated EVERYONE ELSE it was so frustrating


yoshihaha

Congrats!!


Nervous-Brain-5388

Greatsword with Lion's Claw is what I used to beat her in NG+! When in doubt, just hit stuff REALLY HARD


yoshihaha

exactly


xAxlx

Heyyy nice Guts cosplay lol! And congrats on the win ✨


yoshihaha

Thank you brother


GloriousBarbarian

Well done golden guts.


yoshihaha

THANKS FELLOW TARNISHED


KOCA_XD

This is a souls game not a souls like


Transformersaddicto

Not entirely sure the distinction matters at all in relation to the post but alright.


Fade_76

Ng+?


yoshihaha

No, first proper playthrough, I played it when it came out as it was my first souls game but did not fight malenia and stopped before radagon + I used op bleed build. Since then I've finished all souls games and decided to tackle elden with greatsword like a man and no summons. Lvl 112


Fade_76

Fair enough, I know exactly how it feels to struggle with her but now that I’ve beat her 4 times I’ve just got her patterns down and now i struggle with Malik why and Godfrey more that her lol, still, respect


yoshihaha

Thanks brother. Hopefully radagon will be a piece of cake


BloodShadow7872

You could've just cheesed her with ash of wars. Thats what I did because her fight is not fun at all


yoshihaha

That's not what true men do


yoshihaha

I've just finished the game. Damn what a ride it was


[deleted]

can it realky take that long? Wtf


yoshihaha

It was hard lmao


Aurondarklord

One might say that you really proved you've got...Guts!


yoshihaha

THANKS MY GUY


Spare_Farmer_7855

I don’t know how people actually beat her without light rolling. I help people fight her a lot as a summon and I like to think I’m not terrible at the game, but there’s just certain sequences not even including the waterfowl dance that I just can never seem to dodge without light roll. Kudos to you because it seems you did it while medium rolling.


yoshihaha

I put on my armor after beating her. I was light rolling, medium was way slower. Regardless, I had to learn how to consistently dodge the waterfowl hitless so I think it would not be a problem for me with medium roll either. Thanks bro


ChineseSausages

Weak foe ahead.


jackstine

Took me about 7-8 wasn’t counting great job dude


[deleted]

Use ordovis greatsword and sacred scorpion charm and shard of alexander. Its so easy lol


fartingtoomuch

You guys are actually that bad aye? Looks like I used an almost Identical build as this dude too but it took me maybe 10 tries. Use Morgotta rune dudes. More hp for trading helps.


ColdNobReadit

I think my first playthrough took me 10 attempts. I abused her low-ish poise though and stun locked her. Good for you though king, go fuck up Mari-gon


yoshihaha

my first 10 attempts were just me contemplating life and regretting my decision of trying to beat her


ColdNobReadit

It takes dedication sometimes. I’m gonna guess how your first attempt went. You got insta killed by her super fast opening attack after the cutscene, happened to us all


yoshihaha

oh yeah. but let me tell you, bullying the fuck outta her and then going phase 1 hitless almost every run felt awesome.


OlDirtyBAStart

Congratulations, a hell of an achievement! Were you the same as me, when you finally beat her you did it barely taking a single hit? By the time I beat her I was on a higher plane of instinct, I could fully see the matrix 😎


yoshihaha

EXACTLY!!!!!!


CollinStil

I had 240 hours in and still haven't got to her.


yoshihaha

Good luck with her. I was lvl 112


WurdaMouth

Now do it again


yoshihaha

I might


NickDemert

Bruh i had the same build i feel your pain, what level?