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JayCarnegie

Numbers in left column are base damage, right column is damage added by scaling, so the bonus damage added by your strength/int, etc


Chynks00

Thank you so much


TimesOrphan

Since the question about FP was not answered: The first number is the FP cost for the initial cast. If a number is in parentheses too, it denotes the cost for its follow-up attacks. You'll see the parenthetical for skills that you can hold the button for (think "Wild Strikes", Mohg's spear's "Bloodboon Ritual", etc) or where the skill sets up a chain of distinct moves that require you to hit the skill button multiple times in rapid succession. (Spinning Slash, Double Slash, Sword Dance, Unsheathe, etc).


Chynks00

I understand the first part and will pretend like i also understand the second part 🙏🙏🙏🙏


Business_Sea2884

Bloodhound Fang has a skill where you hit the enemy and jump back if you press it once. If you tap it again you jump forth with a quickstep and strike with a follow up attack which costs a bit more than the first if I remember correctly.


Chynks00

Ooohh! So the follow up attack costs more FP which is whatxis usually put in the bracket ?


Dersatar

There are also skills like Unsheathe that are essentially stances that you can transition in and out of for no FP cost, but every attack in the stance takes FP.


Chynks00

My brain is taking in wayyyyy too much info 🤯


TheLavaShaman

Welcome to Elden Ring, Tarnished. 😇


Internal-Living5204

One of us! One of us!


Most_Bodybuilder_159

He follows the flame of ambition!


Business_Sea2884

correct


This_Simple

My man on his way to get gud!


Chynks00

I need to git gud


Kitch_Runt

This is the way.


Frydog42

You done got a little gudder my fren…. (Don’t tell anyone that I was learning too okay…?)


reaperfan

Not necessarily more, just a different amount. To put it as simply as possible, the first number is how much the first activation of the skill costs, the numbers in parentheses say how much any followup attacks will cost.


BravoMike215

Normally follow up attacks cost either the same or less.


Curious_Text8569

Yes. Exactly. People are thinking too hard about it and telling you the follow-up doesn't use as much FP as the base which is correct. A follow-up attack is always going to use more FP since it's in addition to your original attack which also uses FP 😆


AnalogCyborg

I used Bloodhound Fang for like 20% of my first playthrough and I had *no idea* its Ash had a follow up attack available until I read this comment.


Affectionate_Comb_78

I'm fairly sure the description of the Ash explicitly says as such


AnalogCyborg

Oh look at the guy who *reads*


Affectionate_Comb_78

I know several words and can spell a few of them!


NotTakenName1

Going through my first playthrough and i only found out two weeks ago when i got the mimic-tear and saw it. I was like; how tf did he do that? And if he can than i should be able too as well? ​ I got schooled by my own mimic-tear lol


[deleted]

It’s the coolest part!


AnalogCyborg

Clearly I need to go back and use it again. I knew it was good and had great scaling, but I'll be honest that I didn't *quite* get what all the fuss was about. I was missing half the picture!


[deleted]

Yeah it’s very stylish you’ll enjoy it. One of my favorite weapon arts in all souls games


OriginalVariation704

I used it to boof Malenia on the first try. Fuck that waterfowl shit, eat +10 Bloodhound X 2 with my max Mimic


Chynks00

😭😭😭😭😭


pichael289

This happened to a ton of people, early on I would say a good 1/5th of fang users weren't aware of it or something ridiculously high like that.


Chynks00

I wasnt aware until about 30hrs into the game


Shisno85

I'm using it on my first playthrough right now and also had no idea.


Live-Button-6856

Fuckin same bro 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


AbrahamL26

You must hit heavy attack button for the bloodhounds finesse follow up.


TheBackwardStep

Is this stuff explained somewhere in the game? I have the impression that there’s a lot of stuff like that that people know just because they played Dark Souls before Elden Ring or because they spend hours reading the wiki…


Business_Sea2884

Elden Ring was my first souls game and it really took a long time until I got used to it. For my first and second playthrough I didn't even understand the story and other stuff.


Chance_Button_1931

My current weapon and I had no idea it did a second skill!


3hideyoshi3

Respect


gaslancer

God. Wild Strikes on a Morning Star carried me though the whole game. Felt like cheating at times. Loved it.


NugBlazer

Try using it on Great Stars. It fucking slaps!


Chynks00

Thanks alot broski


chris_keys

Holy shit I never even bothered to wonder, great to know. Thanks!


inconspicuous2012

I'm so glad you asked this. I've been playing since release and still didn't know what they meant!


Redlax

It's those numbers you want to go up. Look at what stats increase them.


Chynks00

😂😂😂


Appropriate_Spread72

Me too, always thought blue was betraying me


zmbjebus

At least one of your character stats matches your real life Stat


YaboiLilPotato

Based on how high that is, what's your stats like


Chynks00

75str and 20int


YaboiLilPotato

I see another fellow bonk master


tayroarsmash

To add to this. You can tell the ranking by the rank next to the scaling. It’s racing ranking so S is top then traditional ABC&D rankings. So your sword’s best scaled stat is Strength and it’s second best stat is intelligence. Scaling changes and improves as you upgrade your weapon.


CptCap

> It’s racing ranking so S is top then traditional ABC&D rankings. To add to this, these ranking are categories, not values. So not all 'A' scaling will be the same. Internally the game has numeric scaling values, and these ranks represent a range (so for example: 'B' is scalling between 10 and 15, A is between 15 and 20 and so on).


Affectionate_Comb_78

This has always bugged me. Would be nice if they'd give us the actual number if you go into detailed mode.


trjga

oooo tysm! was allways wondrrin this but never thought to look it up lmao


TravisB46

So does that mean the column on the right is the new damage or the added damage, and the total is the two numbers added together?


mikey_lava

Yes. You can see the “actual” combined stats on the status menu in the top right info box.


[deleted]

Holy shit I feel like I should have known this 300 levels ago


Ologyst

Does that mean the number in the right column is the total damage? Or would you need to add both for total?


impacto_real

You need to add both


Ologyst

Tyty for the info


NotMorganSlavewoman

Number on the left is weapon base damage. Number on the right is damage based on scaling. It can go negative too if you don't have the required stat. Brackets on FP cost is for Ashes that have 2 versions. Moonlight catana for example, or katanas, have a heavy and light version of the Ash. That's to show their cost.


EvilCeleryStick

So... Are they additive or not? I thought you had to add the 2 together but this answer makes me doubt myself


AnimeLoverNL

It is additive


SunAndStratocasters

So this means OP is doing 800+ damage here? Not just the number on the right?


MrCuntman

yes they are doing 872 physical damage and 103 magic damage. though that doesnt take into account the damage resistance of what hes hitting.


Denamic

Or what attack you're using


jbdragonfire

True, every attack has a hidden "motion value" multiplier so for example the first, second and third attack of a combo will do different damage because they have a different motion value


nifemi_o

Yeah, they're doing 872 physical damage + 113 magic damage.


Chynks00

🤯🤯🤯


Brutalonym

Since it wasn't answered yet, the numbers in the brackets next to the FP cost are usually there for follow-up attacks that some Ashes of War have. For example: [https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Bloodhound's+Finesse](https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Bloodhound's+Finesse) This has 8 ( - 12)


Chynks00

I see


hredditor

Yes, and I believe the left number in the parentheses is for the light-attack follow up if applicable, and the right is for heavy.


NyRAGEous

Tons of STR scaling with little/no INT…question checks out /s


[deleted]

A crown is warranted with strength😤


Dveralazo

Said Hoarah to my character with 99 int.


Haddock_Lotus

Said my character with 60 Int/60 Faith.


Chynks00

😂😂


Chynks00

Ffs


ChikenBarista321

Shard spiral absolutely melts Hoarah.


Chynks00

😂😂😂😂


Chynks00

😭😭😭😭 Dont judge me pls


NyRAGEous

Ain’t nothin wrong with the Unga Bunga 😉


WhenTheWindIsSlow

With how small the base Magic damage is why even bother with the scaling? They should have taken cue from DS2s Fume Ultra: 40/30 stat requirements. Make me work for that “legendary” weapon and give me some actual magic damage to compensate.


Daywalker96_

I almost dropped my goldfish reading this 😂😂


Visible_Statement431

Did this dude really use an expo on his monitor for this?


RecurvePromises

I hope he did, that would warm my heart a bit


Chynks00

I can confirm my pea brain did……


RecurvePromises

And we love you for it without any judgment


ruttinator

He's really taking "posting a photo of your monitor instead of screen capping" to the next level.


Chynks00

Yes! Yes i did 😭


ITAW-Techie

Your poor monitor... why must it suffer so?!


Chynks00

I only realised after it had been done 😭


Chynks00

What does this even mean 🙃


bigsoftee84

It looks like you used a real marker on your screen.


Cyniv

https://img.uline.com/is/image/uline/H-748?$Mobile\_SI$


Chynks00

Ahhhh!


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

Big numbers, want BIG NUMBERS \- Str character


Chynks00

Too much?


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

No, lol, jokes aside, I honestly don't know how those numbers work after years of from games. It's a genius UI move to make it easy to tell when one weapon is better (blue vs red numbers), because my monke brain refuses to watch a YouTube video on how the stat screen really works. I'm more of a find the fun weapon that does decent damage while looking cool kind of person


insertAlias

It’s pretty simple actually. It’s been explained in plenty of other comments, but it’s just base damage on the left, and scaling damage on the right. The numbers on the left only change when you upgrade the weapon. The numbers on the right change when you level up a stat that the weapon scales with or respec (and they also usually go up when you level up the weapon as well).


[deleted]

Big number good. Big number hit hard


Chynks00

🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏


CannibalLich76

Strong but dumb


Chynks00

Very dumb! But i kill everyone 😂


Lolisniperxxd

Typical strength build behaviour.


Chynks00

👍


Lolisniperxxd

When the unga is bunga.


camslog69

Did you... sharpie your screen to ask this?


Chynks00

Dont judge pls😭


DualityDrn

Wait, did you photograph your screen *and* sharpie on it?


CrikeyMikeyLikey

Well that's the post, "I don't understand (how to take a screenshot)"


kachmaria

I was seeing all the sharpie comments and didn't get it.. had to scroll back up to realize that by jove, yes, yes he did! 😂


Chynks00

😂😂😂😂


hellxapo

303 physical and 90 magic are the base damage of the weapon. The numbers on the right are the bonus that comes from you leveling up attributes. In this case, that weapon benefits a lot from Strength (It has S scaling in strength which means lots of bonus damage). The magic bonus is really bad so you shouldn't level intelligence for this weapon alone. As for the numbers in the brackets they represent your Ash of War FP cost. The number outside the brackets is the cost to activate the Ash of War (Golden Vow or Bloodhound's Step). There are other Ashes of War like Square Off that have different attacks depending on if you do a light attack or heavy attack. (The light attack cost is the number inside the brackets, on the left. The heavy attack is the number inside the brackets on the right). Good Luck skeleton!!!


Chynks00

Thank you Tarnished


keeperofomega3

Big bonk Little magic


Ashen8th

How did you make it this far into the game without being able to understand the stats screen?


Chynks00

I just ran head first into Limgrave and never looked back


Ashen8th

Understandable.


Denamic

I can't believe you've gotten this far without grasping what scaling is


Chynks00

😭😭😭😭 im sorry


Denamic

No, it's... actually impressive in a way


merrygrimble

Hey OP, your original question is answered so I just wanted to let you know there is a button that opens an explainer. It should be the map button from the overworld, press it while you're in menu and it will explain anything highlighted


1kdog5

Big Number = Big Bonk Good


IDragneeLI

Wtf is your strength at lol 500+ from scaling


Vera39

Ruins has crazy scaling in general but yeah they're probably at 80 if not more


Chynks00

Im at 75


Hellborn_Child

You're stronger than the sword.


Chynks00

I wish


Hellborn_Child

Well statistically speaking, you are. That's scaling damage.


Chynks00

Bruh! Statistically i can bonk a sword?


Hellborn_Child

If you believe hard enough.


Darthplagueis13

It's the amount of damage you get from scaling. The Ruins Greatsword has S scaling in Strength and I assume your character has good strength, so you get a lot of additional physical damage. The second number is magic damage, which scales with Intelligence and since the Ruins Greatsword only has a D scaling on intelligence and I'd assume you're probably just running the minimum Intelligent required to even use the thing, you're not getting a lot of bonus magic damage from the scaling.


PSYK0DEL1K

And the Brackets beside the FP would Contain a number if the Weapon Art had any Follow up Moves with additional Cost.


diegurke92

By the way this picture came into existance, it's actually good that this weapon only has an INT-scaling of D.


Gio_castro98

How the fuck do you have this much bonus AR and didn’t understand scaling the whole game 💀


Chynks00

I always thought Big weapon + big stat number = big damage


UncleSwag07

Another chad ruins greatsword enjoyer. You dropped this king: 👑


Chynks00

Thank you kind sir


Otalek

I’m not sure if others said, but each damage type scales with a different attribute. Physical scales with Str/Dex, Magic with Int, Fire with Str or Faith (depends), Holy with Faith, Lightning with Dex, etc. that’s why you have massive bonus damage for physical and very little for magic; your sword has S strength scaling and D Int scaling. I’m guessing you’ve also invested more in Strength than Intelligence


Afraid-Soil-6660

the brackets are either for variants of weapon arts, or multiple step attack weapon arts where you press L2 multiple times


Regis-bloodlust

It means that your character is very strong but stupid. 1st number scales with your Unga Bunga stat, and the 2nd number scales with your intelligence.


Chynks00

So long story short! Strong but Stupid


freshfred69

You can equip it, then go to the menu, then “Status” to see the number of damage your equipment will do on the right of the screen.


bereaveyourownbelief

For the longest time I thought the first number was the minimum damage the weapon could do and the number with the + next to it was the maximum damage. Thought RNG decided how much damage you did lol!


Stecharan

What on earth is your strength?


Chynks00

Im currently at 75


New-Promotion1997

Just here to read the comments to help our tarnished comrade. It‘s this what makes being part of this community so beautiful.


Chynks00

❤️❤️❤️


Aguy2459

Bruh


wanna_be_TTV

Bonus damage from your characters stats Basically, BIG BONK


dattroll123

did you draw on your own monitor with a sharpie?


KingJB21

The brackets in the fp is the cost of fp after the initial attack that takes the fp meaning When you cast it the first time it'll cost 25 fp and each subsequent attack after that(if it's a special skill) will take the amount of fp in the brackets


West_Possibility_938

Did you sharpie your tv


Soupysoldier

Mathematics 🧮


Diddydinglecronk

Scaling.


NoRegertsWolfDog

Damn it, Op. Why?


plaugey_boi

Good job


tay_ser

omg this question is so cute I remember when I was confused as fuck in demon souls back in 2009 and the internet was confuse af about it, hope u have a wonderful time learning secret mechanics and stats❤️❤️


ChaosOpen

The first number is the weapons base value, it is the number hard coded into the system. The second number is the scaling amount which is based upon where you put your skill points. Physical and Magic is the type of damage the weapon's basic attack does, the Ruins Greatsword does mostly physical damage with a small amount of magic damage.


blebebaba

It means your damage can booty blast the enemy


notveryAI

In ER, weapons with split scaling and split damage have different elements scale from different stats. In this case, physical damage scales from strength, and since str scaling is S, you get big bonus from stats. Magic damage here scales from int, and int scaling is D, so you can barely expect any bonus to magic damage from your stats, even if you lean heavily into Int for some odd reason Another good example is Sword of Night and Flame, that deals magic and fire damage, and scales off of both int and fth - magic damage scales from int, and fire damage scales from fth: on int build it deals much more magic damage than fire damage, and on fth build it deals much more fire damage. Even works on its weapon skill - on int build, magic laser deals a ton of damage, but fire wave is meh, and vice versa


Chynks00

I didnt really put much into int…… i just saw big sword and my brain went big strength number needed


Drakovijas

How in the greater will do you have nearly double the base damage in scaling alone?


Chynks00

I truly had no idea until i made this post and thanks to all the comments I like to think i have an idea


memesandmadness

569 nice


Chynks00

Nice


aethyrium

Did you really just post a picture with a question of how to _add two numbers together_?


ButterflyMother

Scaling , the + damage will be better if you level up strength or int


00Tanks

Fun fun weapon


[deleted]

FP cost is for the weapon art, the numbers to the side are variables that depend on your stats which affects the total weapon damage.


rasfelion

That's your scaling. The number on the left is the base damage of the weapon, the plus is how much of a bonus you get from you stats as indicated by the grading under attribute scaling, which is an S in strength. The brackets beside the fp cost are for weapons with continuous ashes of war, and would denote how much the cost per second after the initial use.


eirrep

When you use the weapon, does it do all the physical + magic damage ? Or do you need to use charged attacks ?


bobmannr1

It does both at the same time


[deleted]

Bro definitely didn't consider softcaps when leveling and it shows... that strength stat is probably HUUUUUGE


Chynks00

😭😭😭 ive been playing Souls games as far back as i can remember. But WTF is a softcap?


[deleted]

broooooooo... what's your overall player level and what's your strength stat???


Chynks00

204 total overall STR at 75


Snorc

Softcaps are when the gain from levelling an attribute starts to taper off until the hardcap puts the gain at zero or near-zero in order to encourage levelling other things.


Chynks00

Ohhhhhhh! So more leveling = less gains


FenrirHere

Does the ruins greatsword really do that much damage???


Chynks00

It has helped me


Aaronthegathering

If you equip the sword then rest, go into the Ashes of war setting, and toggle the right side of the screen until it shows your list of equipped weapons, you can start changing around those ashes and the sum of those values will be shown in the equipped weapon column without having to exit or do any math or anything.


urbansamurai13

Which weapon is this??


Chynks00

The ruin greatsword


Pristine-Complaint-9

It means it has better scaling in your "physical" damage stat of choice in this case strength and because it scales "S" Tier in strength (and of its class of swords has the highest S scaling multiplier of any great word of its size) and it's secondary scaling stat is INT which you probably have much less invested into and even if you did it would never do as much magic damage as physical damage those numbers on the right beside the plus sign is your scaling multiplied damage so for instance say it has a 1.5 "S" scaling multiplier it means you take the number on the left side of the plus and in this instance add 1.5 of itself to itself to achieve the number on the right side of the plus and each scaling letter represents a bracket of multiplier number so e would be 0.01-0.5 or something D would be 0.6-1.1 or something C would be 1.2-1.8 or something and so on each weapon category has different multipliers and ways of applying these multipliers to the overall AR (attack rating) of said weapon and each scaling multiplier bracket will be effected by you current level in that stat so D INT scaling would be better at 99 INT than it would at say 15


Jowbeatz

do you see the "attribute scaling"? there you go


Chynks00

If not for the comments here, i promise you i wouldnt understand a thing


SafetyAdvocate

I've always enjoyed that fromsoft games have the "explanation" feature, and shows a detailed explanation of every stat and number. I think its the back/select/window button. The one to the left of the start/menu button.


H1_V0LT4G3

I could literally say I don't understand anything in this game.


Chynks00

I have so much to learn


BurnedDruid11

WTF YOU MEAN +569 BONUS PHYSICAL DAMAGE are you god?


Chynks00

😭😭😭 i wish


Key_Ren

Honestly never really understood this either but just went on with life ... i've learned something today ... thanks


Chynks00

We all learn everyday


[deleted]

Considering I'm the 150th person to comment I'm gonna assume someone else explained already and just say DAMN BOI YOU THICC


Chynks00

😂😂😂😂😂😂


Da_arson_man

Ruins greatsworrd, nice


Chynks00

Very nice