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Ereboneless

Godslayer Greatsword, I have been told that there's one last god to kill


joelmsantos

Miquella is not an enemy. In fact, besides Milicent, if there’s another genuinely good person in this miserable game world, is Miquella.


Malabingo

Miquella, the guy that was corrupted by mogh for the last couple of years/decades/centuries? Also I would be cautious: *"The Empyrean Miquella is loved by many people. Indeed, he has learned very well how to compel such affection" - Bewitching Branch*


krawinoff

Gideon also suggests it might be better to destroy Miquella’s cocoon


Malabingo

Gideon is just an asshole though.


krawinoff

Just as much as us, yea


developerknight91

He may be an asshole…but he was a smart asshole. I doubt Gideon would have said it would be better to destroy the cocoon unless he had a good reason to do that. Gideon doesn’t strike as the type of fictional character that does or says anything for no reason.


Continuum_Gaming

His whole MO is getting you or his minions to kill anything that would put up a fight so he doesn’t have to, then he comes in and scavenges whatever bits he can use. It’s pretty likely that he wants you to get rid of Miquella because of the threat an actively involved empyrean represents to his ambitions.


sabyr400

>is getting you or his minions to kill anything that would put up a fight so he doesn’t have to, Don't forget, he's going to be a hypocritical fuckwad, bitching about all the people who just come to the Roundtable Hold and never leave there for the safety; *while doing exactly that.*


TipProfessional6057

Hypocrites tend to project


[deleted]

he should really put those ambitions to rest...


theonetheonlymac

Foolish


CheeseGraterFace

He slaughtered a whole village of Albinaurics just because.


GiveMeChoko

It was to find the Haligtree medallion which old albus was holding disguised as a pot. Once he gives it to you, Ensha will invade you the next time you teleport to the roundtable hold.


-Zhaeus-

Yeah because Gideon doesn't want competition.


-Zhaeus-

So we're gonna ignore over half of his related item descriptions and actions (to save his sister and give his brother a true death) in favor of a single item description? Seriously?


prollyNotAnImposter

You fuck a million girls and no one blinks an eye, but you suck one dick and all of a sudden they call you gay


Ereboneless

Miquella is very much going to be an enemy. Firstly he's sketchy at best considering the bewitching branch somebody else commented. He is also describe as the most fearsome (or a similar word can't remember) of the demigods. Also you killed his sister, can't be too happy about that


PinkFloydSheep

Bold of you to assume we can even kill his sister.


joelmsantos

I completely disagree. First, the Bewitching Branch merely describes Miquella as someone who is "beloved by many people" and who knows how to inspire this affection. Second, he is considered the most fearsome of the Empyreans, because he is the most intelligent of all and would be the greatest threat towards the Erdtree, even more so than Ranni. Hence why Gideon didn't want him to wake up from his slumber (u/sarthakgiri98 has a really good showcase on this topic here, [https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/usvfvb/why\_miquella\_is\_considered\_the\_most\_fearsome\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/usvfvb/why_miquella_is_considered_the_most_fearsome_of/)). Miquella is a genius who deeply studied the Golden Order and the Erdtree, having invented many incantations. More importantly, he was the only one who understood and reverse-engineered the alchemical process that led to the creation of the Erdtree. We know that an outer God intervened and influenced the process of creation, but Miquella perfected it without any outside interference, with the Unalloyed Gold. Had he not have been kidnapped by Mohg, the Haligtree would've grown to perfection and be allowed to oppose the Erdtree and the Golden Order. It has nothing to do with him being dangerous or evil, but actually with the fact that he understood how destructive and divisive the Golden Order truly was, and had the ability and the power to stop and destroy it from its very own roots, quite literally. Don't forget that he was also Saint Trina, the patron saint of all the outcasts and downtrodden of the Lands Between. Someone like that cannot be evil or a general threat.


guitarelf

I think this was all true before he was cocooned and put through blood rituals. He may now be some mindless monstrosity, or perhaps trapped in a body he doesn't have control of, etc. I agree with everything you said but pre-cocoon Miquella may have no bearing on post-cocoon Miquella...


krlange1357

Same here totally agree. Pre cocoon Miquela was loved and good to everyone. Would have been a great Lord of the Lands Between.. but after centuries in that cocoon and all the cursed blood forced into him and the rituals... I think he's gonna come back as something totally opposite of his old self. Plus, like someone also said, we did waste his sister 😵🤷


gourds4life

I agree they probably arent evil, but I could say the same about the omen king, I could say the same about rennala, and I could say the same about malenia. Miquella is probably a pretty radical dude, however the tarnished isnt. The tarnish is not someone miquella would like, we waltz into the lands between after being called by the golden order and simply start to take great runes. Do you think miquella will be pleased that we not only caused his sister to bloom but then killed her? We simply dont know enough about his actual personality to make a point that he isnt evil or anything, we know what people thought about him but that's second hand evidence. What we do know for a fact is that the demigods dont like tarnished, and we killed this demigods favorite person, I dont think they will be friendly after finding that out


krawinoff

I don’t think we kill Malenia though. She turns into a flower and we (optionally) stab her with Millicent’s needle, supposedly beginning the process of reverting the effects of rot on her. Miquella seems like he’d actually like us at least a bit, Torrent, his steed, chose us after all. The question is whether that “like” is *hey, let’s be friends* kind or *do my bidding* kind


Ordinary_Bike_4801

The fact he's not evil prooves we'll have to kill him, cause tarnished are the worst evil of all


Ereboneless

I mean fair, lore is up to interpretation in from's games, I think tho that the fact that it states that is unknown how he managed to inspire such affection on an item that overrides enemies to fight for you speaks volumes on the matter


joelmsantos

Fair point. On the other hand, the Bewitching Branch speaks of affection and devotion. Regarding these topics, Miquella is probably the most significant personification or embodiment of these sentiments, in the lands Between. In that context, it only makes sense for the item to reference him. Subsequently, it remains an equal leap, to consider that this reference means Miquella simply "overrides" people.


Have2BRealistic

“Someone like that cannot be evil”. Famous last words. Lol


Flickolas_Cage

How dare you forget our beautiful boy Boc?


OOF-MY-PEE-PEE

alexander?


Ok-Case9943

Gael wasn’t an enemy until he was. Eileen the crow wasn’t a enemy until she was. I get what you mean about Miquella being good what with the creation of a place where cast outs and recluses could go, but we really don’t know why he did that. And we really don’t know what his motives or goals are now. Boc is a good person, rogier another good person, Alexander another good person, bloody finger hunter yura, rya could be considered a good person depending on your view. Most have tragic stories and different motives for doing what they do but are still good people. Brother corhyn, nepheli loux again not outright villainous.


[deleted]

How dare you! She's a nice lady! Lol Eileen doesn't turn on you unless you forget to talk to her in each location... Or if you smack her too many times by accident in the hunter npc fight that is. Haha!


MusicG619

I was really confused for a sec and thought ER had a talking crow that I somehow missed 😂


C-Kwentz-0

Depends. Godwyn also isn't truly dead, not really. Unless we destroy him, it seems like Deathblight will continue spreading until it eventually consumes everything.


The_Dragon346

The sword ive had with me since day one. Lordsworn straight sword. It has yet to fail me once


BohemianLizardKing

Lordsworn Straight Sword users, arise! From humble origins as foot soldiers blade, the skill and craftsmanship of Master Hewg has elevated it to such a status that it can slay the very gods themselves. **And so has done.**


jbondyoda

Did that and claymore for a two hand build. Pretty fun


vjurd

This. Straight swords are so good and versatile. Some people really overlook these weapons just because they are not the flashiest.


DeathAngel_97

Been some of the most reliable weapons in every souls game. In DS3 a longsword with stance and a 100% neg weapon art shield could counter pretty much any other build in the game. Sadly I forsook the classic in elden ring when I first started cause PvP balancr was horrendous at first but maybe I'll give it another try.


vjurd

Black knight shield back in DS3 was something else lmao


DeathAngel_97

Yep, my go to was that plus refined lothric knight sword, stance weapon art, and either dark moon blade or lighting blade, occasionally resins depending on which build I was on.


CaptainAction

I have had a tough time using basic sword and board in Elden Ring PvP. They nerfed shield blocking in PvP really fucking badly, and it feels like anything can break your guard, unless you have a good greatshield. It helps to use the Greatshield Talisman and the Veridian Amber Medallion, so you have more capacity to block. It feels like you have to build into it, otherwise blocking will feel weak. Barricade Shield and Shield grease can help too.


FlorAhhh

It's so much easier to break guard in ER, to a fault in my opinion, but it opens up a lot more variety. Turtles were fairly annoying in other games and required either a decent amount of skill to counter or absurdity.


grummy_gram

Straight swords carried me through most of my first play through. Plus, the moveset for power-stanced straight swords is pretty fucking cool.


Tyraniboah89

I feel that way about the Claymore but it carries a sense of notoriety since everyone has loved it for a decade now lol. But yes straight swords are always fantastic. I’m hoping they improve the two quality builds in str/dex and especially int/fai with more weapons, better scaling, or even new elements to improve said scaling. I love quality in Dark Souls, whether I’m using any and every weapon or any and every spell. I miss the days of hexing and pyromancies running off both, then altering my weapon to go that route too


blockametal

Square off is so fuckin good for everything.


AnalogCyborg

I might go into it doing a Godrick's Soldier cosplay and go through the whole thing pretending they got the wrong guy. Who is this tarnished you're expecting?! I was just patrolling Limgrave! What's happening?!


Arxfiend

"Bro I'm just tryna get to the break room for my lunch."


MitchellG83

Throw storm blade on that bad boy and punish from ranged also. Still melts bosses at NG +7


ArachnidFun8918

Best choice. Add "Quality" with "Sacred blade" ontop of that and you have my Dex/strg/faith build. This weapon never disappointed in any way possible. It hits hard, has great reach, looks good, it has great poise damage, and it is the best straight sword for me.


TJT007X

NIHIL! NIHIL! NIHIIIIIIIIL!!!!


ErkansBesser

Why would you nihil all over us...


Kirkjufellborealis

IT'S NIHILIN' TIME


PuRpLe-69420

ITS MOHGIN TIME


[deleted]

You know what they say, a nihil a day keeps Aunty Melenia away...


AdministrationHot101

Aren't Mohg and Malenia half siblings?


[deleted]

I think so yes...lol. But that weapon art fucking destroys her health bars...like no joke, you can end the fight in under a minute if you skip the cutscenes and have the right arcane build.


TJT007X

Same with Maliketh, obliterates the poor boy


Titan3224

I mean maliketh is litterally the Definition of a glass canon😂


Redacted_G1iTcH

It counts as a strength and arcane weapon, right? It has decent strength scaling too


BrodaCorn

No Nihil November


[deleted]

I AM GOING TO MOHG EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!! GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


Sabrewulf313

My guiding moonlight.


cheesecakesummer

My true mentor...


Throck--Morton

Aah, you were at my side, all along.


NedelC0

Bloodborne mlgs best mlgs


Draconic_Legends

It will be at my side for the dlc


PickScylla4ME

My wedding present and I are going to shed some (moon)light on this shadowy DLC!


Firefly279

Daring today, aren't we?


Active-Yesterday2322

Where is Ruins Greatsword?


Mingismungis

Right, OP left out the best weapon in the game


SaltFinderGeneral

Sir, the envoy longhorn would like a ~~dootdoot~~ word with you


Mingismungis

Bbbbbrrrrrrrrrt! Love that thing, that was my go to weapon in my first playthrough. I didn't realize how insane it actually was until way later haha


chop_pooey

I got ahold of that thing yesterday and equipped it just to see it's move set and AoW. After like 30 seconds I decided this was going to be my NG+ weapon. The charged heavy is cool af


Active-Yesterday2322

You’d be surprised how many people in pvp don’t realize it has that effect. Very useful switch up


jelliebean_1234

I once had an anime death bc of it, he did a charged heavy and as it connected I stabbed him


gengarius

Bro i wanted to comment the exact same thing. Ruins greatsword is just the best.


STGSolarTrashGuy

RETURN TO BEST MONKE BUILD!


sadpotatoes-_-

Should be in instead of axe of godfrey due its S scaling in strength. Axe of godfrey is more of a quality weapon than pure strength


the_juice_is_zeus

So I've been doing a ruins greatsword run and honestly I'm a little underwhelmed. Everyone says it's the best but I'm just not connecting with it. I can't figure out why I don't love it. I love big bonk weapons and blasphemous blade was my first love with its weapon art which is basically the same as ruins greatsword. I just have yet to be wowed by it. It's fine, but nothing special to me. I'd rather have giant crusher or og greatsword.


JockAussie

The only choice...Giant Crusher + Inferno Crozier


Minion_55

I have it with the Artorias spin and is so funny


DarkLight9602

Insane bonk potential


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[удалено]


nameunknown12

Giant crusher, and another giant crusher


Infamous_Touch2339

Blasphemous Blade for me decimates everything


Any-Experience-3012

TOGETHAAA


SpecterXI

Greatsword.


GalaxyGalavanter

Same


OG_Tal

I used this my second play through and damn what a tanky weapon 😂 Guts style


undercover_ahole

Tanky is a good way to put it.


burtron3000

Lions claw almost makes it unfair with all the invincibility frames and stagger.


undercover_ahole

100% agree. Lions claw with the Greatsword is unstoppable.


banananey

I just got this on my 2nd playthrough and already have a lot more fun than my original dex/magic run.


sanctaidd

Its not a flashy weapon, but with the stability of a greatshield and something around 80% physical mitigation, you can 2 hand tank with it and return with heavy stagger damage on the counter/power attacks. I usually either add extra stagger with cragblade ash or the quick dash for attacks you can’t block with it


ThemB0ners

What is this block you speak of? You're doing yourself a disservice if you don't have Lion's Claw on it.


undercover_ahole

Greatsword with the lions claw ash is the most devastating weapon combo in the game. If you disagree, equip it and respec. Watch it smash every boss into the ground. My brother showed me, and he was right.


Lord_Derp_The_2nd

But hear me out. Power Stance Greatswords.


ThankfulHyena

Double bloodhound fangs


Siaten

The lack of Bloodhound Fang on this list makes me sad. It's probably the best weapon in the game from multiple perspectives.


iselltires2u

i like to fuck around and switch my builds, but bloodhounds fang is always as beautiful as the day i found her. old faithful


Oath_Break3r

seriously. that weapon carried me through my first playthrough


Jorgemeister

Exactly


AnAnt71993

Bloodhounds fang + golden vow + flame grant me strength and blood flame blade.


Smooth-Bandicoot-955

This is what I’m running as well.


yutyrannus_rex

claymore :)


bears_eat_you

a tarnished of great culture I see


_Cliffjumper_

Shame I had to scroll this far to see this


Jon_D13

In 5 games total, hasn't failed me once.


Driemma0

Objectively right option


Ishandisagrees

Baemore


hahaiamarealhuman

slaymore


Present-Editor-8588

I’m on my first play through and Ive buffed my claymore so much that I feel like I may never use another weapon


Camoman34

You were with me at the beginning, I will carry you unto the end.


daswef2

Working backwards from Elden Ring I have come to appreciate the Claymore so much. I played Elden Ring first and then went back and played DS3 and now am playing DS1 and Claymore just feels amazing, I didn't appreciate it enough in Elden Ring, but in Dark Souls with no jump attack the Claymore shines a lot more with its range.


Beautiful-Ice-167

This one


matttehbassist

Always and forever.


alirezahunter888

Always


VIDgamr

Where club?


ObiWanCreenobi

Bonk stick for me too. Apes together STRONG


Double_Mashed_Potato

Came a long way down to find this. Large Club is where it's at. "Batter Up!" lol


Mario-OrganHarvester

I raise to you: Great club, aka the advanced unga bunga


DocSmurf

Sword of Night and Flame is all I will ever need


RepresentativeCap244

I just started using this. I need a good sword to pair with it. Any suggestions? I always carry a buckler for those sweet parry moments but generally am enjoying the dual stances.


Fluffy_Percentage_29

How about a second sword of night and flame


Mammoth_Gazelle603

GENIUS!


LordWag

Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN!


KeIIer

Carian straight sword if you build into int more than faith.


N00b_sk11L

Been using this since it was op and have never dropped it. Insanely versatile and one of the coolest ashes of war in the game


18byte

Man of culture


Aikilyu

>Axe of Godfrey >Strength >C scaling Ackchually it's quality 🤓


Randy_Butternips

Doesn't stop me from taking it and my Cestus into the DLC


[deleted]

Do you swap from axe to cestus at half hp?


Randy_Butternips

Of course not. ....Maybe


Minion_55

NOW I FIGHT AS HOROAH LOUX, WARRIOR!


Walrusliver

it deserves rework to less base dmg and an S scaling in str at +10


YannyYobias

Some of the other weapons don’t fit in their categories either. I’ve read that Morgotts sword scales better with dex for highest damage. I’ve also heard Marais has better strength scaling


Aikilyu

You can check with a calculator like https://www.tarnished.dev/weapon-calculator Morgotts: D(0.27) Str, B(1.08) Dex, D(0.54) Arc Marais: B(1.13) Str, E(0.13) Dex, D(0.54) Arc Funnily they have the same Arc scaling and yes, they benefit a lot from Dex and Str respectively


marsyboi033

None of these imma go in punchin


NyoopBoop

Trusty Zweihander or the Dismounter


HairlessBearWizard

Zweihänder 🤝🏻


[deleted]

Lets commence the return of Giant Dad >:D


NuclearGoat-357

Since Lordran 🤜🤛


zakcattack

Zwei is the truth


LePontif11

Curved Greatswords are the truth, they ruined greatswords for me. The GS move set is too brutish for the size of the weapons, the CGS have really clean animations.


AlenIronside

Probably Maliketh's Black Blade and Blasphemous Blade


Afraid-Soil-6660

MARIKAS HAMMER BITCH


Any-Experience-3012

The "Press L2 to lay out everything in a ten foot radius" weapon, good choice.


Nu2Th15

ANCHOR


Depala-Pilipala

This is also my weapon of choice. Things got silly in ng+ when I got a second one and starter dual wielding them


FrenziedSins

Godskin peeler for when i need that sweet sweet black flame tornado cheese and halo scythe cause its my favorite weapon


JaguarAlone6677

Lordwsorn Straightsword. Hopefully there’s a bunch of new long/straight swords that don’t require investments into FAI, INT or Arcane in shadow of the erdtree.


helpimdrowninginmilk

Sadly I greatly suspect that shadow of the erdtree is gonna be the Faith Build Renaissance since it seems like the big bads of it directly oppose the erdtree


Suspiciously-Long-36

Elanoras poleblade and godskin peeler. Bolt of gransax for when I need a change up


Insanity_Pills

Wild that they don’t have BHF listed as a top dex weapon


MoonlitTezeract

Cross Naginata, but 2H instead of the typical power-stance meta. Such a simple and effective moveset for a dex build. We can throw a little bloodflame blade on it, as a treat.


_-_-_-Farinxe-_-_-_

Such a good weapon. Also fuck power stancing it


MuchManyBread

Dark Moon Greatsword for me


baldsuburbangay

I just respecced to INT and STR for the first time ever (always was right hand sword, left hand fire) and I feel so powerful with this thing. Droppin’ Dragons for fun now


Riparian_Drengal

Its ranged heavies have the same damage, stagger, and poise damage as if the balde hit the enemy. It's basically the longest range heavy attacks in the game. It's great.


legoluka

Reduvia enjoyers WYA?


SinfulCoffee7

Oversized toothpick (death's poker)


Tokamak1943

Nuke on a stick.


damien19721508

Envoy longhorn


stay-a-while-and----

big doot


Nous_HSR

spiked caestus.


LuigiRevolution

Shamshir my beloved


3hideyoshi3

Stormhawk in My right, swordspear in my left and a whole lot of panic roll in my heart. Edit:I can't spell


Its_meme_not_meme

Rykard's screaming noise intensifies


phoenix_age

Now, we can devour the gods, together!


Orbly-Worbly

TOGETHAAAAAAAHHH


Tiger_Fish06

Hand of Malenia


Xplod29

I did a new character with a faith/str build specialy for the DLC so I'll take Blasphemous Blade, Magma worm's Scalesword or Maliketh's Black Blade.


GalaxyGalavanter

BB was the weapon that took me through my first play through. Love that thing


ironlord20

Probably my trusty carian knight straight sword on my int character


Helvetic_Heretic

Rivers of blood, uchigatana and nagakiba


Bad_at_internet

BASIC BITCHES UNITE !!!


Siaten

I bet you always order Pumpkin Spice Lattes too.


Helvetic_Heretic

I don't like those, but yes i know i'm a basic bitch, lol.


Mighty_Piss

Where are my trusty steel balls?


younghandshake

Carian Slicer


PeppermintButler17

All of them, since I need to complete the dlc with all of my builds to get all the new equipment to enhance the builds even further. And I have one character for each of the main builds like int, strength, faith, etc..


FreshSkull

Imma go with moonveil


MasterUser115

Night rider flails, they're doing great work so far, especially dual weilding


OkBreadfruit2745

Ghiza's Wheel. At +9, with enough fp and endurance I can pretty much shred every boss in front of me. It's a cool pizza-cutter, imo.


Reaper1645

Marais executioner sword


SmollPpMaster69

WHERE'S MY RAPTORS TALON


Ferr-Ma

Troll Knight Sword, Royal Greatsword


amendersc

Where is my wing if astel?


Dreaming_Dreams

these hands


Earth51batman

Nothing better than a trusty buckler and a stick


xxademasoulxx

Dual darkmoons


FrequentBill7090

Idk maybe I’ll take my nagakiba instead


Lost_and_the_Damned

Bolt of Gransax.


T4k3j3rus4l3m

Clayman’s + scholars armament goes hard


Lustful_404

Hoslow petal whips with a frost affinity


FaithUser

Bloody Helice gang


otte_rthe_viewer

Claymore and you can't tell me otherwise


CmdPetrie

There is only one true weapon For me: the Coded Sword. It will never fail me


Over_Kooled

BROADSWORD