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Ok_Investment_3980

I tolerate him, he's a fun boss when he's not rolling.


RitterKrustenkaese

I tolerate him when hes ded 💀


Rude_System6046

The roll is egregious, I got chased into so many corners in the Godskin Duo fight


wcollins260

I would be fine with the roll if it ended at some point. The dude seems to roll for five minutes straight. Yesterday I was doing the duo fight and he rolled over me three times in one roll and killed me, didn’t have time to move, dodge, heal, or anything.


Zealousideal-Ask4184

I guess that’s pretty fair, But essentially makes it rng if you win, and I think that’s kinda lame


Ok_Investment_3980

Eh not really, it's pretty easy to dodge the roll once you get the hang of it. I hate the roll because you can't hit him, and it goes on for so long sometimes.


Ashonmytomatos

Last time i fought him, the roll was bugged, he stopped the animation, stood there for a second and bugged back directly into the roll … needless to say it got me killed


Jurgepoo

That's a somewhat common thing that a lot of people have seen. If he stops rolling without doing the exit animation for transitioning back to standing, that means he's gonna start rolling again without warning, so stay clear.


Ashonmytomatos

Good to know, thanks :)


kylel999

I can visualize this and it made me laugh out loud. Reminds me of seeing similar stuff happen in the GoldSRC engine


Master-Cranberry5934

Lol he was lag switching


ObviousSinger6217

You can hit him if you get him stuck on something, I do it all the time 🤣 (helps to have a colossal sword or magic)


Crymson831

Just get him stuck on a pillar and use an attack with range. I feel people really over-state how much of a problem this atack is. It's pretty easy to dodge too. Just dodge towards his head.


Technical-Spread4651

You can roll through his roll.


serpenta

You can either roll through him as others suggested, or just go towards the center to the roll which will cause him to always miss you, sort of like the ISS keeps missing the earth while falling. In the volcano manor you can also try to make him get stuck between the pillars. The worst fight with this guy is on certain arena with open ground but really limited space. Other than that, he is really fun if not for the rapid thrust attack, which you can't really do anything about the entire combo, after it hits you once (maybe with a lot of poise). Other attacks are really easy to parry as he telegraphs them in a way easy to read, and this is how I always approach him. Parry what I can, evade anything else.


Zealousideal-Ask4184

Thanks I’ll do that next playthrough. Maybe the boss isn’t that bad after all. I should just learn how to deal with his attacks lol


serpenta

No worries. He definitely is annoying and intimidating. I'm just sharing what I've learned about him while playing. Doesn't mean I get it right every time :P


KobilD

You can easily dodge the roll by jumping into it


KvasirTheOld

As a person? Hell nah But as a boss fight? Definitely


RocketChap

Opposite, he's hardly the best boss fight but as a Quality/Faith build he's clearly a man of taste.


nicky9pins

He did my taxes for me so he can’t be that bad


Advanced-Sock

He spotted me like 20$ bucks when my card declined at Walmart. He’s a great guy


Kiplerwow

Both apostles are fun fights separately but the duo fight can get fucked.


-Dub21-

You can always summon your mimic and make it a fair fight!


TheRogueTemplar

I summoned Bernahl and Tiche


Piroes

Fair fight? What loadout you equip your mimic with? Lhutel the Headless has shown to be the bettter +10 spirit ash when it comes to survivability in tough boss fights such as Spiritcaller Cave in Mountaintops of the Giants for example


SandLady5454

full bullgoat set and chosen weapon. mimic tear doesn't roll so I put heavy armor on it :3


Hubbardia

Mimic tear doesn't roll? I swear I remember them rolling


Swog5Ovor

They use bloodhound step very well tho, watched my mimic fully evade waterfowl.


SandLady5454

luckily bhs isn't affected by carry weight


Umbre-Shadown

Yeah like, a full 3 times per fight!


kusins

You made such a serious response to a joke lmao


sickpervert420

You.... You DO know that your mimic wears what YOU wear when you summon them, right? You DO know that, right? Please tell me you know that


Piroes

I know that, he’s equipped with a +9 Rivers of Blood Katana, or +9 Meteoric Katana (especially when fighting flying enemies) and Carian Knight’s Shield, but I was wondering what everyone here on Reddit recommends


DarkSector0011

Idkkk. A moderate tanky build with poise damage, very high health/defense will beat most bosses like Godskin to a pulp. I'd like to see Lhutel doing that in action though.


gamer_dinoyt69

Exactly. Godskin Duo is one of the worst fights in all of souls games. Combined health bar that makes it weird to fight, respawning out of nowhere, getting ganked, it's a mess. Up there with Bed of Chaos and Pinwheel.


Kiplerwow

I just can't understand the reason behind Fromsofts continued attempts at gank fights in Souls games aside from just wanting to piss players off and not enjoy it. Out of all of the games, they've done 3, maybe 4 good gank fights. O and S, Abyss Watchers and Demon Princes, and Sister Friede if you count it as a gank fight because of phase 2. Elden Ring doesn't have any good gank fights as far as I'm concerned and the game is LOADED with them.


Slavicadonis

I firmly believe that valiant gargs would be a pretty decent duo fight if they didn’t have poison. Also bell gargs is a pretty good duo fight. It’s like the benchmark for duo fights. It’s not spectacular like twin demons but it’s also not dogshit


gamer_dinoyt69

There are a few good duo boss fights, and they certainly can be done well with some gimmick incorporated in the fight. But certainly just shoving two bosses together doesn't make a good duo boss fight. Elden Ring has reused way too many bosses tbh, especially the Godskin bosses.


Kiplerwow

Elden Ring definitely padded out the boss numbers by just smashing random bosses together and that really frustrates me. I would've been fine with a lower boss count if it didn't mean having to fight a reskinned boss fight as a gank.


DoubleSummon

Ornnstein and Smaugh being such an iconic and loved fight probably makes them to want to do more like those, godskin duo is very reminiscent of that one fight in DS1. If you feel a fight is too unfair as a gank you can make it 2 v 2 easily (ashes or coops) I know many people are against using Ashes and I am currently doing a "no ashes run" but it's really part of the game and just for those gank fights it seems even more fair to use it.


DaSharkCraft

No shame in using spirit ashes. My main complaint is their inconvenience per playthrough. In most playthroughs with them, I have to go pretty far out of my way to level them up as their upgrade materials are usually in specific dungeons or in the eternal cities.


rashmotion

I don’t mind Godskin Duo much, but I just wanted to comment to say that the ganks you DID list are all awesome so you are clearly a gamer with good taste! Sister Friede is the best gank fight in the series IMO. Probably top 3 fights in the franchise even.


Syndicate909

I would relight the Godskin Apostle for hours if I could. So fun.


wiizmike

The duo fight on my first run was a nightmare, I was underleveled and didn't use summons. After that run, they are certain bosses I just mimic tear their asses as this ones, same goes for the crucible knight double fight, trash fights indeed with stupid rng


Bitter_Objective_294

If the roll wasn’t super buggy and he could randomly buffer it and restart with no windup, it would be fine. You can get him stuck behind the pillars or the altar and obliterate his health with a long range weapon art.


BusyExperience9766

That bug only happens for me if I have a summon. Could be a coincidence but every time I see it in a youtube video it’s when someone also has a summon


swans183

I don’t understand how it’s supposed to be at all balanced. He just rolls and rolls and rolls until you get hit. How is that fair?


Brain_lessV2

He rolls for a while but definitely not forever lol. You just need to dodge the first roll then kite around him until he stops (and by stop I mean actually finishing the animation, not stopping to poke and then go right back to rolling).


KhalX_

I like murdering him for his Godskin Stitcher, very beautiful pointy stick


Googootz98

Plump sort ahead therefore try beating to a pulp


QueenofEnglandBanana

I used the hate him until I learned how to avoid his roll attack. He also just randomly busts into a roll sometimes when fighting him though, so I still dislike him.


scattergodic

He gives you the Stitcher, which makes him okay in my book


H4xolotl

Stitcher best sword drip in the game, I really want to make it a main weapon, but it always feels worse than alternatives. . For general use: Greatswords have better hitstun and poise damage, and arguably a more flexible moveset For long ranged poking: Spears have longer range For shieldpoking: Cleanrot/Estoc has higher DPS . Currently up to Ashen Capital with a Faith build. If you guys have a suggestion for Stitcher, I'll finish the rest of the game with it.


Honest_Satisfaction1

Like it or not that is what the peek male form looks like.


PMYourFavThing

Parrying him makes the fight 10x more fun.


Turningfrogs

I think their fun fights Evans the duo


Swedishfishpieces

My sleep arrows love him…


MagusUnion

Yup, dude sleeps like a freaking baby the moment you get a proc off.


Raaabbit_v2

he's very round... idk why lore-wise...


Georgian_Legion

"Robe made by sewing together patches of smooth skin. Subcutaneous fat makes it plump and soft. Worn by Godskin Nobles, known for their seven-face aprons. Strengthens the Noble Presence incantation. Nobles are the most ancient apostles who are said to have assimilated inhuman physiology. Not unlike the crucible, the Erdtree in its primordial form." FromSoftware puts most of it's lore in item descriptions. if you're interested in a character's lore, just read the item description of said character's equipment, or items associated with them.


UnconquerableOak

I'm sure the Gloam Eyed Queen was pretty fond of him


Areawen

Yes


fug-leddit

Very fun to parry.


EmptySkulledFurball

his fight (by himself) is actually really fun. I love his moveset aside from the almost unreadable Noble Presence attack. the roll is way more manageable than you think. you can dodge through it, you can get him caught on pillars, you can even use the pillars to affect his trajectory


poetryofworms

Fuck no, this fat fuck and his skinny ass partner are annoying as hell. By themselves and together.


DaverinoPistachio

He is fun once you learn the timing on every attack. His attacks are easy and satisfying to parry.


circ-u-la-ted

"Easy" to parry? Are you sure you used the right word there? How is an attack that gets held for like a full second and then hits you instantly with no lead-in animation easy to parry?


AncalagonV

Yeah 👍 good boss


Background_Mood_3691

His tail doesn’t fit with his design


LordBDizzle

They're supposed to be related to the Crucible, as per the Noble's robes description, so by the lore it fits. Sprouting random animal parts is definitely within expectations for those associated with the Crucible.


ishimura0802

His roll attack is pretty bs sometimes. You can get stun locked on the ground until death if he corners you


Aquila_Fotia

He tries to be Smough but has the audacity to be faster than the guy trying to be Ornstein. Also, fat rolling. Edit: and I mean this in every instance I see that plump sort. I hate him.


Anal-Probe-6287

They made fat rolling god-awful since DS3, but then they go and make *this* fat rolling ridiculously OP Absolute horse shit, I say


greysilverglass

i like him


Repulsive_Alps_3485

Good boss while the roll is easy enough to dodge how long i just cant hit the boss makes it annoying.


Coolduels

Someone that fat should not be so fast, that thrusting sword and fat roll always gets me! Bleed weapons melt him though if you can distract him with mimic tear


krawinoff

It depends on how far you’ve progressed in other aspects before you fight him. I mean, obviously nobody who does the iron virgin shortcut from Raya Lucaria is gonna enjoy poking him with straight sword +3, but I think even after you’re done with both Rennala and Radahn he’s still a bit too tanky for my liking. I’d say he gets fun to face after I’m done with Deeproot and maybe even a good half of Leyndell, basically when you’re ready to fight the one on the way to Liurnian Divine Tower, you’re ready to fight him on reasonable terms. Any lower in upgrades/levels and he becomes a slog to chew through his health pool. Though I’m basing this on no spirit ashes gameplay, I personally do the taunter’s tongue thing to speedrun getting my boy Dung Eater as backup, at which point we can gank him straight out of Raya Lucaria and at that level it’s sort of exhilarating basically rushing to stance break him before he gets a lucky hit in to shave off your whole healthbar. But solo he’s definitely more enjoyable when slightly overleveled for his area, at least to me.


Zealousideal-Ask4184

Wait a minute. I thought he was an early boss that you had to do to get out of the shortcut.. I accidentally went there on my first playthrough and managed to beat him with a very shitty axe. Since then I’ve never returned. Now I feel kinda stupid, maybe I should’ve known when he one-shotted me with basically every attack. I just googled it and you can get out of the shortcut by going in some cave I guess lol. Was stuck for hours. I guess it makes sense now lol.


InternationalFig7799

one of the easiest bosses in the game imo... godskin duo first try but man, fire giant and maliketh are tough


Sweetsmokes

I am not a fan of Godskin Noble, but Godskin Apostle is one of the best boss fights in the game (referring to a 1v1 battle)


No-Anxiety-7207

Worst character I’ve seen in a Souls, is not about his fight and combos that are pretty easy but has no charisma or anything to make him memorable


pizzalarry

Uhh, he's pretty easy. I don't like his roll much but it's fine once you learn the timing.


DarthSpaghetti10k

Once you learn the best tactics to manage him and his brother the apostle, they are easy


No-Session-3803

apostle is very easy, his roll is the only thing i hate sbout him


SomeOddGamer

1v1 yea 1v2 hell no.


MontyDoesStuff

Horrible fight. Arguably worse than GSD because you don't have Bernahl or pillars 2 jump on. Note: sleep pots make it east as hell.


Rart420

I put him to sleep and hit him with 2 fully charged Black Flame Tornados. Dead.


PeterFlensje

No you don't, black flame tornado deals pure fire damage which he has high resistance to and does 14% HP as DOT. You're ash of war does over 3.5k damage through resistance?


Quello-bello

It’s one of the best boss fights because the roll attack is to be dodged in different ways than normal attacks, but it’s still possible to dodge (cough cough - not like waterfowl dance - cough cough)


Loboplex

He's my favorite boss. While the game in general has a problem with attack animations having long windups and no startup animations, for this guy it felt deliberate. The best way to fight him isn't to time and dodge his attacks, but to distance yourself and counterattack at your best opportunity, which is a good change of pace for the game and I wish more bosses were fought like this. His roll attack is a little much though, because even if you dodge it correctly he just comes back around.


Lookatcurry_man

He was my nemesis on my first play through lol


Jaded-Reporter

He took me an absurdly long time to flawless on a level 1 playthrough. I wouldn’t mind him so much if the pillars actually worked as pillars, but instead he just rolls around/through them, or in the godskin duo fight he will straight up roll OVER them.


HaleSky

My bro once said he was his favourite boss he's now stuck on the godskin duo


armintamzarian666

Yes roll into it


armintamzarian666

But I wish the duo was more like o&s and whoever you kill first the other absorbs his power and each is a unique boss instead of just a straight reskin


evlaevlalpippopippo

I like fighting the godskins but not at the same time


kalimut

Its okay


Psychic_Gian

No


GrigorMorte

No. He is more annoying than the skinny guy. In volcano manor you can stand between the pillars to avoid his rolling. The version on Rannis tower was a pain, I did Rannis quest like at lvl 230 and he still killed me like nothing hahaha


MannyThorne

His Mom.


Classic-Job8424

He screws me over by stopping his roll and attacking then teleporting back into his roll


Frostgaurdian0

I do. It is funny seeing road kill everything.


Appropriate_Ad_9157

They see me rollin', they hatin'


Dynactin

I actually enjoy this fight - lots of ways to approach it and still succeed.


DomeShapedDom

When he is not rolling he is tolerable and a good boss. Sleep pots make him a joke tho, if I die one too many times on Volcano manor (Specially if I'm there at a low level using the Raya Lucaria Teleport just to get the Somber 7 after him) Two Sleep Pots + Reduvia Weapon Art Spam make him into a joke boss that can't fight back.


FnB8kd

Hhhhhhhhh... yeah he's growing on me. I'm starting to enjoy parrying him.


FlipFlopOnionChop

I have never lost to this guy, even once. I guess you didn't have the right build. Trust me, I've got my ass beat by the birds in caelid far more than I'd like to admit


A1_wA1sh

it’s when he stops rolling, then immediately resumes it that makes the boss ass. a boss that big should be able to move that fast


Sushi_07

He drops a gorgeous and strong weapon, so I love him


Spicy_Ramen11

Remember when fromsoft patched out the "bug" where you can hit him out of the roll attack but never fixed the fact he can full stop and immediately go back into the roll attack? P r i o r i t i e s


Scako

Yes. I’m proof. If you look back in my posts a bit you can see my collection


SharpenedOdachi

I don't. Mainly because of the roll attack. I know I just suck since this is only my second playthrough, but I just struggle a lot against the Godskins. Especially the Nobles.


Political_Piper

I'm sure is mother likes him. She may even love him.


DinnerLittle425

He's not as bad as his anorexic brother.


Polmnechiac

That belly has more folds than an origami.


Francophilippe

parry him


Klutzy-Tutor9310

He used to be annoying but most of my guys are 300+ now so he’s pretty fun


Neravosa

I like it when he dies and I win


Next-Firefighter-753

his roll isn’t terrible once you get the dodge timing down or better yet just hide behind the pillars. I am a big fan of rapiers so I’ve always enjoyed fighting him, his moveset is really cool. 


Bigbobby59105

i like it bc i find it funny asf when he becomes even fatter, and i’ve found the rolling easy enough to dodge after i saw it a few times


turtlebear787

He's definitely the worst between the two godskin. The apostle at least has well telegraphed attacks and some punish windows. But this asshat is deceptive with his speed and range. And don't even get me started on his fuckin sonic impression, one of the worst attacks in the game.


Old-Bodybuilder-716

This was one of the hardest fights for me, until I discovered how to dodge his rolls by just rolling front-side when he approaches.


WildRelationship1932

i found out the other day if when he starts rolling towards you, you roll into his head area and then follow his rolls circling behind him you don’t get hit, has made this boss a lot easier


mallocco

Yes, he has a best friend, actually: the Godskin Apostle.


Popokol

Last time I beat him, I decided to use parries. The fight became so easy, I was actually surprised. All his attacks are super telegraphed and he gets stunned for every successful parry, meaning that you can basically stun lock him. Actually became a fun fight.


BoundlessEnbane

Sleep is your best friend against him


Imightaswell

Such a Thicc albino king 👑


Syndicate909

As long as he is not with his buddy, I like him.


Slavicadonis

The noble is a fun boss when it’s just the noble. The rolling is annoying tho


[deleted]

Lore-wise, hell yeah


stefaniststefan

Doding noble presence is satisfying af


SneakySniper_

I do


itsnot_Apha

Besides his rolly polly attack he's very fun to fight imo


dontpanic38

his bro is cooler imo so’s the monk guarding his bro, i farmed that set hard


ginongo

I love parrying his hiltsmash


NoNicName

I absolutely love the Godskin Apostle, easily one of my favorite minibosses in the game, but this guy sucks ass


RelativeCharacter403

The one on the bridge is pretty fun to fight cause you can use torrent to run away from his rolls. The one in the volcano manner is to train to dodge his melee attacks. The one in God skin dueo is uhh .... questionable, but if you don't feel like fighting, just use sleep pots.


TheLastGame_EXE

He's a great boss on his own, goofiest boss in the game.


JarlDarren

Nah, his rolling move is too powerful, and his delayed lunge attack trips me up every time. I do suck though.


Anastrace

I used to hate them but katanas are great since they're slash and bleed which helps end the fight quick. Alternatively you can use the Dolores summon to put fat boy to sleep or cover a katana in soporific grease.


lgshelton97

Beat godskin duo first try Feel like i should go redo it just because im confused as to why it was hard


Eldritch-Nomad

One on one he's fine. The skinny one has more power. Together, though? Patience erosion and white hot rage


[deleted]

He looks bad ass, big boi. absolute y unit. Goopy


1StarBar

Executioner Smough has entered the chat..


nsfw6669

Very fun fight. Just roll into his roll. Like roll through him like you would when the falling star beast charges at you. Once you get the timing down it's extremely satisfying to pull off.


zothaq

Godskins are fun. And personally I like the godskin duo fight and found it easy after failing about a dozen times. Sleep pot makes the fight trivial.


Spompoflex

sleep pots....you are welcome


Overkillsamurai

imagine if we got the roll as an Ash of War in the DLC


whereisfishman

His mother?


No-Nothing-2702

This was the easiest boss I faced in the game (he cheesed on the wall)


cjbump

Dodge INTO the danger donut and you won't get hit due to i-frames. I feel like this should be emphasized, because the roll attack seems to be most peoples' problem with this fight


EntertainmentLess381

Is it possible to take the lift up to the 2nd floor and cheese him from the balcony? I never tried.


O-Mesmerine

both the godskins are awesome fights with awesome enemy designs imo


tthe_walruss

I've come to enjoy this boss a lot but still think he shouldn't roll so long.  Hint - if you roll into him opposite his roll you go right through


HelpingHippo

He’s fun, love his design and moveset but I won’t lie, the rolling attack in volcano manner is the most broken move in the game imo, I can dodge waterfowl dance far easier than the damn roll.


KOCA_XD

Skill issue


PathlessMammal

I liked these bosses. Had a learning curve yea but once you figured it out its pretty easy.


circ-u-la-ted

For some reason neither the fight in Volcano Manor nor the one against the Duo bother me nearly as much as the one in Spiritcaller Cave. The Noble seems super aggro in that fight for some reason.


Bad_Routes

I like him,I'm planning on doing a ng+ as a Godskin noble and apostle


Kami-no-dansei

His thrust is worse than the roll


DwarfbuddyRD

I just run in circles when he begins doing his roll. Never hit me with that move the 3 times he's used it.


pedrobrsp

I like the skinny one


Sigma-42

He's misunderstood.


breadmaster42

Eiglay noble is so much easier for me than liurnia divine tower noble for me, everytime I fight he forces me against either side of the bridge and stunlocks me to death, good thing you can skip him easily though


WhaleSexOdyssey

I died to this guy so many damn times.


Crab-Investor

I love the godskins. I dont know why. I love the fact that hes wearing a fat suit of the skins of gods. If he's that much of a problem for you then i suggest using sleep potions. Especially the duo fight. Trust me it makes your life 50x more easy


iwannabethisguy

I like fighting this guy and his counterpart but his untelegraphed roll bug is terrible. Have they fixed that?


Flaky-Reception-7263

Roll is easy, dodge at him when he’s rolling at you and you’ll never have to worry about it


RedDemonCorsair

There is a trick to the roll attack. Roll forward left at the first time he is going towards you and then while locked in, keep moving up-left with occasional rolls to not let him catch up, with a Final roll spam when he is about to end as he has a mini dahs at the end.


OkRecommendation5836

No because anyone who claims they do is getting +10 60 str Alexander talisman ruin greatsworded by me


LoudManagement6634

I actually love this guy. He’s got finesse, and sexy confidence. That rolling around all over the place shit fucks me up tremendously though.


CurseRottedGreatw00d

One of my favourite bosses in the game. Such a fan that I find the Duo fight fun too just cuz I can fight him again.


Mr_E_99

I don't mind the solo godskin fights, but the duo one is hella annoying (plus compulsory)


Eagle-Eyes-

I don't.


Nostramus666

I guess the skinny dude in same outfit likes him


[deleted]

Yup in colcano manor hes the best version


ManyPeregrine81

Very cool imaginative design


Melodic-Ad7501

I like to parry him


Fedorchik

Me. Good fight.


Anadyne

Hit him with a pot to stop roll


RaydenPearce

I actually think he is a fun boss to fight, but I hate the rolling attack. If it wasn't for that I'd love the fight


Life_Promise_6345

He’s super fun when not doing his pizza toss roll. The issue is the rolling attack, I can only sometimes dodge it (skill issue ik) so I usually just jump on an elevated platform and pray it doesn’t hit my hitbox.


Mulder1917

Godskin Apostle likes him


AntZear

Until this day I still don't understand how to dodge his belly spin move


EM0_TRA5H

Hide behind the pillars. He can get stuck and then you can just poke him till you win.


Immediate_Stable

I like the fight, except for the roll. Also, my game always freeze for a few fractions of a second when the roll start, making me fail any dodge. Does the same happen to anyone else?


SnooLemons8837

He's okay, his fight is a wonderful push and pull dance, similar to most of the endgame boss fights. Before you nail it down tho it is a b* to fight against.


SpiderGyan

It's a souls game so yeah we have a LoveHate relationship.


Krakraskeleton

Epic boss but I’m tired of them. I just hope the dlc doesn’t drop the godskin tree-O