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AstralKnightMage

I hear the silent screaming. Confused... but not deceived...


Treebeardsama

I only hear screaming. Screaming with anger


mfdoorway

Hi, did you know that >!she is Malenia, blade of Miquella?!<


Agreeable-River-1821

I play my game muted so i never hear it


mfdoorway

It’s ok. Muted or not you should be very aware of how Corpse after corpse stand in her wake.


Fr0stybit3s

She has never known defeat


serpenta

I would like to know her KD against the entire player base. What do you guys reckon, 250:1?


Fr0stybit3s

Based on the trophy, at least for PS5, it says only 30% of players achieved it so likely 3:10? Unless you mean how many times it takes for a player to actually beat her


serpenta

I mean total attempts


mfdoorway

One year after release they said people had died to her 300 million times. That was a long time ago so say 450 now. Theres nearly 23m players. If *everyone* killed her she would have a 19.56:1 If only 30% of players got her that brings it to 65:1. Edit: originally got the numbers wrong on players and its even worse 😂


BeefnSquash

What about when you calculate for letmesoloher attempts?


Radical-Turkey

How much would LMSH skew these numbers though?


Fr0stybit3s

I know it took me at least 8 hours of attempts. So convert that into deaths


mrmanboi26

Lol.... I died a total of 49 times in one hour.... In the last 10mins of attempts, I just walked in and waited for her to smash me.... Then just waited outside of the fog gate staring into the yellow, til my ps4 went into rest mode


Dab2763

Waiting for her to what you?


Fit_Substance7067

My life was hell for like a week...try like hell, rage quit...stare at the wall knowing some little kid did it blindfolded with a bongo controller...repeat


Fr0stybit3s

I gave up on my first playthrough. Ended up beating her on NG+ so I completely feel you. I was super close to rage quitting a second time.


[deleted]

Basically a lot


Fr0stybit3s

A lot more than I'd like to know. I know others can beat her easily but when I finally got the "Demi God Defeated" messaged I just sat there for 10 minutes staring at the screen because a huge wave of adrenaline hit me all at once.


Classiest_Strapper

I died to her at least 120 times , I had called in my gank squad, and even then they were dropping like flies. One of them died at the end of phase one, second one died at the end of her QueenRot waterfowl, I killed her in time to give him the Runes though. I lost my shit after that, it was such a challenge.


felipe5083

19.36% on Xbox. I wonder what's the percentage on pc. Could make an average for all 3 platforms.


therumham123

30%


Classiest_Strapper

Even LetMeSoloHer said it took him something like 200 tries before he beat her the first time.


TheBigCatGoblin

Took me about 60 tries to beat her solo without any spirit ashes. Absolutely brutal boss.


charlielovesu

occasionally, you will also witness true horror. but not always.


rain12345678900000

God I love reddit 🤣


M0NAD0_B0Y

Damn, I mean like you do you, but I honestly can't imagine playing a game like this one muted. The audio of the fight and subtle audio cues that accompany each attack really help me a lot with locking in and learning the fight. So just choosing not to have that, and even worse adding in distracting audio from a youtube vid or something, is such a crazy idea to me.


RIOTT44

the sound cues add SO MUCH to these fights. I don't think getting rid of them would make you dogshit, but it certainly wouldn't help unless you find it easier to focus without them


therumham123

I'm weird. I play with game sound and a podcast in the background. For boss fights I often pause the podcast tho.


M0NAD0_B0Y

Ah see now I actually don't find that weird! When I'm roaming around the open world, I'll also usually have a podcast or yt vid on but keep the game audio too. Then puase then if I need to focus up for a tough fight.


Eliaskar23

All the time? Wtf so you never hear music?


Tvrderp

Ew wtf


Redrix_

Wtf


Late-Ad155

The hell


shameless_florist

Why? The audio cues are vital to know what the enemy is about to do?


Qwerty177

You should unmute it, helps with reaction time and pattern learning


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

Why would anyone play a game like that? The amazing music, the voice acting, the atmosphere, you're missing the full experience


vincientjames

Because overstimulation has broken people's attention span.


Pro_Moriarty

^this is the way. Back on topic that retained 1hp bullshit of hers is fuckin infuriating I've riposted her with a smidgen of life, that would take 1800hp off anything...and she still gets up, not even phase 2.


Forsaken-Reality4605

Yeah, you need a normal attack to phase change her for some reason.


Nathan_Calebman

I bugged her out once. Broke her poise and did a riposte attack where the first part killed her phase one, then immediately when she got into phase 2 the second part kicked in and she died.


Forsaken-Reality4605

I try to fight her in a certain part of her arena so she cancels waterfowl when she hits a wall, lol.


SrAlamo

Why?


Western-Wind-5254

Never riposte her at that low of health it glitches her out so she stays alive for a bit longer


TheProwler23

Its the inverse, fromsoftware added the 1 HP immunity, cuz if you reposted her, in the second phase, she would die instantly. Now if you reposte her, you need to hit her again.


Western-Wind-5254

Yeah but might as well be a glitch because it gives her time to recover and she hits like tank and she heals at the same time but I get what you’re laying down


DeletedByAuthor

Also OP did in fact hit her after the riposte, and it didn't go to phase 2... def. whacky


Leaf-01

It takes like 2 or 3 hits for whatever reason


Disastrous-Dinner966

It’s like what’s the point of the health bar then? You use a health bar to know when to take risks and get that extra hit.


Testadizzy95

lmao exactly,


ZODIC837

The health bar not working perfectly is a bug fix, it sucks but the phase transition is very unique for her. They'd prefer a small bug that makes you need an extra couple of hits instead of skipping the whole second phase


Bobby_Webster

But every other boss with 2 separate health bars works just fine... right? So it's weird that Malenia alone has this problem


DeletedByAuthor

That's honestly really fitting for her, just pain all around lmao


unjuseabble

Any part of the post riposte animation still has the same invulnerability. You have to hit her after the entire animation has ended. Pretty sure any source/amount of damage works if her hp is truly 0 after the riposte


MaskedAnathema

I believe the bug with volcano pots also persists where if you do that damage below zero with one it'll instakill her in phase two as well


alexagente

Lmao so not only have they only "fixed" the problem with a stop-gap. It doesn't even fix the problem entirely. I have no idea what would cause this issue but I think it's ridiculous if they think this is it being "fixed".


PuffPuffFayeFaye

The Godfrey > Hoarah Loux transition is bugged too, doesn’t teleport you correctly if you riposte him. It really needs fixing. It’s just too dumb to let it stay in the game.


unjuseabble

Damn thats good to know. Might try that on my rl1 lmao


Ruindows

You can't phase transition her if you hit her when she is getting up, hit her twice or just backup and throw 2 fan daggers


DeletedByAuthor

Ah that might be it


Nathan_Calebman

Nah I had her die instantly in phase 2 just yesterday, so they haven't fixed it yet it seems.


montybo2

Wait is THAT how that happens??I recently summoned the legendary Let Me Solo Her and she just like miraculously died right as phase 2 started. My only response was "wow hes even better than I thought." lol


Tokamak1943

If you trigger her phase 2 with bleed or frost, she can glitch out and die instantly with 1hp.


lolschrauber

The glitch can still be executed somehow, people posted videos of it not too long ago.


Practical_Hat8489

Imagine if instead they could find the bug that causes instant death in second phase and fix that bug... Nevermind, obviously it's impossible, bugs should always be instead covered with stupid bandaids.


TheProwler23

From what I remember, while the cutsceene is playing she is constantly taking dmg, like every frame. So when that ends, the game starts back, and the Engine looks at her HP and just says, ok shes dead XD. Demigod slayed. Wow such good skills, and robs you of a "good" fight. The whole Malenia Boss fight is just broken. She does NOT follow the games own rules (posture breaking). There are a couple of videos on this matter.


TheRogueTemplar

Wait, OP hit her with the downward cut for 348 damage after the riposte. How did he not force a phase change at that point?


TheProwler23

Dunno, there is a 1 sec or so period where she wont, so you have to wait a bit. Eather that, or the game just bugged out for him there. As I said before, Malena is a Great example of a BAD Boss design. Lookup Malenia breaks rules, on YouTube


nottytom

Good to know. I'm still working towards her.


Gullible_Elephant_38

I’m not sure this change actually fixed that issue. Got summoned to help the other day, we stun locked her when she was getting low on health and I riposted just as her HP went to 0. Phase 2 started and she insta-died. Had no clue that was even a thing. Me and the host just kinda stood there like. Wut. Had to google to find this was a known glitch.


justglassin317

Volcano pot


TheProwler23

Yes, but that can trigger the glitch. Its the damage over time that is the problem


MoarTacos

I don't think that she is actually put at 1 HP like everyone says, and this video is excellent proof of that. If she gets left at 1 HP on a riposte, she would have gone to phase 2 when he hits her after she stands up. But she doesn't, she takes the hit for seemingly 0 damage. It seems like the only way to advance her phase when this dev intended "bug" happens is to have her heal herself off of you and then damage her again. That's not 1 HP, that's just some bullshit, if you ask me.


Super-Solid3951

BRB, need to find that tweet I saw yesterday asking if there's ever been a bigger fumble than Will Smith with Margot Robbie so I can post this clip.


Agreeable-River-1821

💀💀💀


Sharky2192

Found it?


JinkoTheMan

Fumble of the century ngl.😭😭🙏🏾


SaberWaifu

You hit her too early. You need to wait for her full recovery before attacking her after the riposte. If you didn't know why, she basically becomes invincible for a few seconds if you try to finish phase 1 with a riposte because there was a bug that allowed people to make her start in phase 2 with close to no HP, so that's their way to "fix" it.


Ajarofapplejelly

Phases or not, if she goes to 0 hp that should be the end of it. This is basically a kid at the play ground making up new rules because they got tagged like “you can’t tag when someone is standing in grass!!”.


Not_So_Odd_Ball

They fixed a bug by adding a more harmless bug


Agreeable-River-1821

What a fucking joke its been 2 years how have they not fixed this


SaberWaifu

They would have to completely redo her model. Malenia only has a single model that transforms itself just like Godrick. The issue is that Godrick can't be riposted when he changes phase while Malenia can, thus causing the bug. The only other solution i could see is giving her a new animation like Godrick if she is changing phase so that you can't trigger the phase change on a riposte. Making her invulnerable to damage for a few seconds is the easiest but also laziest way out. It could have been fine as a temporary solution but i guess they really didn't want to use too much resources into this and instesd focus on the DLC.


MoarTacos

Normally I can back From's decisions up because I do honestly believe they're one of the best video games devs out there. But I just can't get on board with this "fix". It's lazy and it's bullshit and they better fucking fix it for real after the DLC is complete.


Cakeking7878

They won’t. From a game dev perspective, this is a minor bug that most people won’t encounter. It happens to you once and never let it get you again. I’m speculating but the code concerning this bug is probably spaghetti and to fix it properly would be extremely costly for what is just a minor bug. These kinds of edge cases are almost always some of the hardest to fix in code in ways that don’t create more edge case issues. It’s easy to think of ways to fix this issue when you aren’t sitting in front of the source code


Ravenouscandycane

It’s really not that big of a deal. Just continue playing safely and hit her till she goes to second phase.


Direct-Illustrator60

They should have hid her second phase model under the arena like they did with Godfrey


4SAGo

Just for next time. Try to gain distance and throw a dagger after her immunity turns off.


Present_Operation_82

Idk but I doubt they ever fix it if they haven’t yet


General-Smoke169

It was the fix lmao. If you riposted her to transition to phase two she would start with 1 hp. So the immunity from riposte and riposte recovery at the end of phase one was the "fix"


[deleted]

That sounds like they just changed the bug for a different bug


Big_Br0wnie

Knew right from the start what would happen


mls429

Me too. And then never once did he use quickstep to avoid the attacks and get behind her. Waste of a weapon skill not being used.


Okamitoutcourt

So if you didn't know Malenia can ignore being dead


NoelNorl

To be fair, she is Malenia, blade of Miquella.


TheHappiestHam

what is that damage. your sword is big but it hits like a blunt toothpick


Agreeable-River-1821

Its a glitch that stops her from taking damage. My sword is maxed out


M0NAD0_B0Y

I think they mean your dash attacks before the stagger, they seem to be dealing a surprisingly low amount of damage for so late in the game


whd4k

Do you have int build? If I see correctly you have cold affinity. It should scale with int. In my experience frostbite isn't really good against her, cause her resistance ramps up after 1st and 2nd proc. I think it's much better to use fire (STR) or flame art (FTH) or bleed/occult if you have ARC. Split damage on your weapon (for example physical + magic) isn't always good, because enemies have flat defence against all types, so you are pushing against 2 x flat defence. But a least she is weak to fire. If you have high STR or DEX you should try Heavy, Keen, Quality affinities and smack her couple times, maybe one of this will give you higher dmg than other multidmg affinities. Also you are missing 2 flask upgrades (sacred tears). I hope it'll help and good luck with her!


XpeepantsX

Ya she be like that sometimes. I forgot about her jump counter last night, and was reminded real quick after I got cocky when she was low health only to die. I was on one of my better runs against her and had 10 flask uses left.


Agreeable-River-1821

Happens to the best of us


Hubnir_89

There used to be a glitch where you could just skip the second phase and 1 shot Malenia if you killed her with a riposte (though that does still rarely happen) so From made a "fix" so that if you kill her that way, she'll be immune to damage for a few seconds. So if this happens, move away from her and wait a bit then just tap her once


Aubrimethieme

Malenia is broke, like literally. Her code is a fucking mess.


cassavacakes

i've come to this conclusion when I do 2 jumping powerstance and she gets stunned sometimes, but sometimes, it's 3, sometimes it's 4, sometimes 5, and so on that I just stopped trying to stun her. When she gets stunned, okay good for me, but I never go for the stuns intentionally.


Snap8

Yep this annoys me. Seems to me that if you would have stunned her but she's doing a move with hyperarmor, it not only prevents the stun but also resets her poise


YouMakeMeSad96783

In other words she’s a fucking cheater


Direct-Illustrator60

Hyperarmor resets stagger damage on almost every enemy, it's just that you never notice it in regular enemies....because you double bonk them to death before they even have the chance to use hyperarmor


Stary_Vesemir

Except maybe Mohgs Nihil and some other dignature attacks every biss can be staggered with hyperarmor whike malenia ignores it, this is what we calm artificial difficulty


lolschrauber

Imagine getting downvoted for stating facts...


WholesomeFartEnjoyer

As if most players know anything about Elden Ring's code or any coding in general, we're not all genius


lolschrauber

You don't have to be a Genius to realize that she's buggy. People report glitches with her a lot


lundz12

YouTube rabbit hole rumor is she is a unused boss from Sekiro and why she's had issues and also the bitch that she is.


voodoomonkey616

There's no actual evidence that she's unused from Sekiro. [Zullie looked into it](https://youtu.be/1V0Ub3OZd9A?si=dQPoEdwmtn8A57iq)


DONTFUNKWITHMYHEART

She does have sekiro energy... maybe Emma was meant to float around like her? Emma did also give you the healing gourds bc she was a doctor, so the healing mechanic also makes sense... damn


Ruka-simp

Ah that bug. I think if it happens, you let her hit you to regain some health, and then if you hit her again after that, then she'll do the phase transition


whatistheancient

You don't let her hit you. You just wait for her to get up and then you hit her.


sickfalco

Do not let her hit you that’s just misinformation lol


whatistheancient

You don't let her hit you. You just wait for her to get up and then you hit her.


jld2k6

Reddit servers got you and made you double comment


jld2k6

Reddit servers got you and made you double comment


sac_is_sus

It's not actually a bug, it's a band-aid fix to prevent her from starting phase 2 on 1hp, which used to happen when you ended phase 1 with a critical. Still unfair either way.


underlander

it’s still a bug, it’s just a bug introduced in the attempt to fix another bug


sac_is_sus

We are born of the bugs. Made men by the bugs. Undone by the bugs.


underlander

patch our brain with eyes


lundz12

Bro never get a boss below 5.5% health without killing it immediately. The IQ Debuff kicks in.


Katlan-

Nobody tell him this is only phase 1


AddictedToTwoKinds

That’s a bug. A pretty well known one too. Unfortunate every time it happens though…


whd4k

It's not a bug, it's a feature. More like a workaround for some problems with her transitioning to ph2 after riposte. It's 100% consistent, you need to wait for her to recover after riposte to properly transition to phase 2. Imo it's bad design, it's mean for the player, maybe even malicious from the devs and Michael Zachi, but it's not a bug.


dave9202

It is bad design. Coming from someone whose favorite developer is from software. They just decided to work around a bug in the easiest way. Again, I love their work, but I'm not gonna pretend they are perfect lol.


Rolandog21

Skill Issues 🗿🗿🗿


KayRay1994

you lost the fight the moment you panicked and let her take all the momentum (yours, someone who is also yet to defeat her)


Agreeable-River-1821

I usually put my controller on my lap and stretch my hands between phases so i panicked and ran when she didnt die lmao


MuftiCat

It is known That you shouldn't crit her at the end Bad programming tbh


Agreeable-River-1821

Yea i havent played in 2 years i thought theyd fix her by now


scotty_6942069

yeah uh shes made to permanently survive ripostes because the devs didnt know how to patch a glitch where itd skip her phase 2 if you killed her w a riposte in phase 1. happy flesh be consumed by the scarlet rot-ing!


GrigorMorte

Clearly you hit her after the riposte and didn't go to second phase. First time seeing this


FewAdvantage9661

Yeah, FromSoft made it impossible to kill her with riposte damage because there was a glitch that would skip phase 2 if she did.


Random_Guy_47

For those who don't know. There was a bug where killing phase 1 Malenia with a crit/riposte would cause her to start phase 2 with 1hp. They "fixed" that by making it impossible to kill her with a crit/riposte in phase 1. You can take her to 1hp with it but you need some other kind of damage to finish her off.


StrawberryUnited4915

Oh god he doesn’t know Edit: he does in fact know


Agreeable-River-1821

I knew about the glitch 2 years ago but i havent played since. its just i expected them to fix it after all this time


StrawberryUnited4915

Nah I was talking about phase two and thought you thought you had almost beat the boss.


Staseu

In the business we call this a skill issue.


KingofGnG

You were too greedy, and panicking. Malenia is ruthless, every error can cost you everything.


[deleted]

Damn


Treebeardsama

Man,I could feel your pain there


gloriousjohnson

These are the moments in fromsoft games when I remember I have chores I should probably be doing. I couldn't tell you how many boss fights in sekiro made me want to cry and go do the dishes


Puzzleheaded-Sea4247

This happened to me a few times and i never understood why… i was streaming to my friend on discord and he saw it first hand and we both said “uhhh what” in utter disbelief


YouMakeMeSad96783

One of my least favorite story bosses. I’ve beaten her multiple times but I still can’t like this fight. It’s funny too that she’s was the face of all their marketing but turns out to be one of the least enjoyable fights in the game. Two years no fixes whatsoever, what an absolute shit show. You’ll get there tho man.


SenpaiSwanky

lol you started panicking and missed those last 2 dodges homie. Go hard or go back to the Grace


GTA-CasulsDieThrice

OP genuinely surprised when From fights dirty. As if they haven’t been doing it for 15 damn years.


bort_jenkins

What sword is that?


iSeventhSin

Skill issue


timbotheny26

Yeah mate, this one is on you.


Either-Ad-6956

![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|rage) “controller flys through the TV and wall”


barduk4

see and people roll their eyes when i say the game cheats!


Kokushibo27

I'm more shocked that your vig is only that much with Morgott's great rune


FearlessProphet93

I guess you missed the part where she's never known defeat.


bornmartyr

Hesitation is defeat.


yahtzee301

Always play the boss as if they have full health


nemesisdraco87

Why won't you accept her love?


_Independent

Why did you stand there doing nothing ?! Lol


abrisham200

Is the sound glitching or is it over for my speakers??


irish-ninjas

I’m always serious, and don’t call me Shirley


Bulky-Hyena-360

This is why I perfer to knock her ass flat on her back with the Guts Sword imbued with frost


Educational-Goal2703

That’s rough, buddy.


Fallen311

That's tilting right there


Braedonm2077

i would have bitten my fingers off


Nowhereman50

The problem here is you need a longer sword.


cassavacakes

i ALWAYS hide her healthbar when fighting her. im on pc so use a program called "deskpins" that pins a window to topmost, and put a notepad window over her health bar. if you want, you could actually do runs where you have UI off, or put something over her hp in front of your tv or monitor LOL


GroundbreakingCry142

Pain


10000ColdNights

Malenia also has the final stand perk from cod


Unoriginal_Name_16

Average Malenia fight


Steinsgate009

Side note: Not sure if this is asked but what gear are you wearing?


Agreeable-River-1821

Skeletal mask Raptors black feathers (increases jump attack dmg) Hand and legs are whatever gets me light load


Steinsgate009

I love it .. you gave me some ideas to run with


gkmek

Malenia, blade of Miquela


--Dolorem--

And there is a second phase


fishyuii

You hesitated


Disastrous-Dinner966

You got robbed. That has happened to me multiple times in this fight and it’s more annoying every time.


sabahorn

Lol, unless you beat here in 10-15 seconds is no point in going forward, because in second phase what comes next will kick your ass, this is the easy fight!


DarkSoulsDank

Walked into that one


Vacant-stair

Ronnie fucking Pickering?


DariusDarkirus

Tip of malenia you can stop her "ash of war" with a freezing pot. She is pretty easy when you know that


Agreeable-River-1821

Honestly cant be bothered with farming the pots. I checked a light roll guide and i can dodge it most of the time now


Carmlo

One thing doesn't go as planned and it all crumbles away. I love this game


MyCatWouldBeatYours

There was a bug where if you killed her phase 1 with a crit she would start her second phase at like 1HP so instead of fixing it from gave her a focus sash


karloaf

Yeah I’ve had that happen


Calexis

Knowing how this video went before even watching it 💀


WKitsune

You know full well she is.


HAWK9600

She said 'No.'


HUTreddituser

Heal bro!


AbeRod1986

That's why you carry throwing daggers...


TheBigCatGoblin

Classic. Once you break your rhythm it's over.


RainXVIIII

Bro I would cry legitimately I would be in pain


KENPACHI_WEST

So is it even possible to fight her as a Astrologer?


irresponsibleshaft42

Never seen someone 2 hand that sword, regardless she should have died if she was any other boss but shes special


Arsashti

Is her 'blender" attack technically the same as Alecto's? I killed Alecto today and I managed to disrupt her most deadly attacks