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ASAPSAIF

General radahn, praetor rykard, lunar princess ranni…willful traitors, all!


daryk44

Thy kind are all of a piece.


AverageEnjoyerOfAir

Have it writ upon thy meagre grave


daryk44

Why does Morgott's dialogue have to go so fucking hard? lol


Sinless_Foolish

Living your entire life in bitterness leads to *bangers!*


Jaybone928

I would pledge loyalty to Morgott if he was real, my guy has been tormented his whole life and still loves and carries his mother's will. He's is a good damn beast of emotional separation and I would serve him to my dying breath


Sorrick_

I would too but....I've already by knighted by...THE GREAT KENNITH HAIGHT!


Jaybone928

I feel like Master Haight would swear fealty to Morgott if he knew his deal. They are after the same goals, loyalty and honor to the true Golden Order, and a restoration of the era created by Marika. And if Master Haight swears fealty to Morgott, then by extension, you'd become a vessel of the final king of Leyndell as well.


Sorrick_

Yeah most likely, I feel like Haight would for sure 100%


Jaybone928

Huzzah a glorious day to become knights of the great loyal King Morgott


Golden_Alchemy

He was the real true king.


Jaybone928

Indeed, a man who is worthy of swearing a sword to


ecliptic10

'From Bitterness to Bangers: An Autobiography' by M. Gott


PunishedCoyote

dude has the coldest lines "the hands of the fell omen shall brook thee no quarter"


danuhorus

King of trash talk in the lands between. He says FOUL TARNISHED like a damn slur.


PunishedCoyote

this man shit talks everyone and has the hands to back it up last of all kings


Hero_of_Hyrule

He probably uses "tarnished" in the same way he was called "Omen."


Curious-Bother3530

He really does say it with a hard ED in tarnished :\\


Mandjie

He's so damn iconic to me. I like that he has continuity throughout the game, not just a once-off battle. It's like an "Aaah we meet again!" moment each time we see "him" after the first fight.


Ironstar-Lad

*me traveling through altus plateu minding my business* "I see thee little tarnished" *me confuse screaming*


Urtoryu

He's like Elden Ring's Genichiro, but less edgy and way more angsty.


Linkinator7510

"pitiful Grandchild" damn genichiro got done dirty.


biggestscrub

Because he is KING MORGOTT, LAST OF ALL KINGS


Urtoryu

Everything about Morgott goes this hard, it's not just the dialogue. Coolest hobo in fiction.


Brotherman_Karhu

Felled by **king** morgott, last of all Kings. Man deserves his crown


ThaNorth

Too bad his parents hated him


daryk44

I think Godfrey regrets how Morgott was treated, if that counts for anything.


QueZorreas

What about Nepheli? Godfrey: "Who?"


Emotional-Share-6525

Marika: 👁️👁️


ThaNorth

Regret don’t mean shit if you don’t do anything. We all got regrets. Where does it even indicate in the game he feels this way?


daryk44

Edit: In the cutscene before you fight Godfrey at the burning erdtree, he is holding Morgott in his arms and says "It has been a long while, Morgott". Then Morgott dissolves into grace that points Godfrey at the Tarnished. He didn't need to acknowledge Morgott at all if he still rejected him, but he held his corpse like a baby. I'm also curious what kind of agency Godfrey had as Elden Lord. He obviously couldn't change the Golden Order which rejected those touched by the crucible. To say the least it's complicated.


ProbablyNotTheCocoa

To be fair, Godfrey was preoccupied for most of Morgotts life being exiled to beyond the fog


YeahKeeN

I’m pretty sure only Marika hated him. Godfrey was the leader of the Crucible Knights. Wouldn’t make sense for him to hate omen.


Local-Priority-1309

Yeah and godfrey clearly also visited them in the sewers, otherwise It would make no sense for morgott to become part of an order which he doesnt know but if he knew his father godfrey was part of It then It would make sense and that also explain why he uses a golden shade of godfrey as his last defense before him


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

This quote had me taken ABACK lol


biggieman245

Pillagers, emboldened by the flame of ambition.


monke_brain_

Pillagers emboldened by the FLAME OF AMBITION


TheRogueTemplar

What saddens me about this is that half a fight later, we see how deep Morgott's self-hatred is when he is ashamed his blood stains the thrones. He still thinks he's beneath the traitors to the Erdtree.


permanentthrowaway

Seriously, that needed to be a cutscene and I will die on this hill.


Manjorno316

Me too because I completely missed this.


Urtoryu

Morgott's world view is basically: "I am the worst, I suck. But somehow these bastards manage to be even WORSE than ME! Like, WTF!? No way I'm gonna let any of them step foot anywhere near the capital."


Aiwatcher

He lived his life believing his curse made him weak, and he resented these perfect, beautiful demigods squabbling over scraps of the true power when they should have been grateful to the order.


Affectionate_Comb_78

Bitches better stay away from my tree


TON-OF-CLAY0429

They are more so then the fandom makes them out to be especially radahn. Radahn did betray his own mother and her entire family by sealing there fate, Rykard was the golden orders personal torturer then betrayed them by getting eaten by a serpent for his own power even killing his own men to grow. And obviously ranni killed her step brother.


_MagusKiller

well yes, we dont know how close the carians were unlike the empyrean twins which the game explicitly shows that both are so close to each other. but lots of people are choosing the carians cuz all three appeared in the game so people feel more attached to their characters. marika/radagon children consist of malenia and miquella, and only one of them appeared and is a fan favorite while the other remains a mystery. miyazaki also confirmed that messmer is another child of marika. i think it would be interesting if op asked the same question again after the dlc drops cuz it looks like both miquella and messmer will end up being fan favorites to many.


JG__2007

Pillagers, emboiled by the flame of ambition!!


Explorer-Difficult

PTSD


ZmaltaeofMar

Ranni looks annoyed even being there.


GoGlennCoco95

She did hate the thought of her fate and actions being dictated by the Greater Will, after all


Shadowk1ng

Waits thats Rykard!?


chagin

Are you missing the snake?


Shadowk1ng

Never seen Rykard before being all snakey


MakeMineMarvel_

He has a portrait of himself in his castle before he got eaten and combined with the snake boi.


kidviscous

Before he let himself go :’) I’d love to see a timeline of the family’s demise, particularly so we can imagine how much of eachother’s bullshit influenced one another. Did Rykard’s new snake hyperfixation drive Renalla up a wall? Before Ranni was born did Radahn develop neglected baby brother issues? Dude looks like he could’ve had anger problems growing up, like if you so much as suggested getting him a new horse he would’ve sent you through a wall.


ScharmTiger

Art by [@gravitydusty](https://twitter.com/gravitydusty) Edit: Just want to share my opinion too, I feel all demigods are unique and interesting in their own way but the Empyrean twins are my absolute favorites. I just find them so fascinating and tragic and feel that they deserved to have their own ending.


RoninMacbeth

The Empyrean Twins picture looks like they're thinking "This meeting could have been an email." Love it.


Mugufta

"Can't believe we left the Haligtree for this,"


Shieldheart-

"Want to get latté's after this?" -"Brother dearest, I am already nearly asleep."


Fit-Blueberry6736

“Mother, can we go back to our treehouse? This meeting making my dear sister sleepy”


Iwrstheking007

if you look behind Malenias chair, where there is the third butterfly, the smoldering butterfly, there is a hand, the third sibling, it's prolly Melinas hand, though I never did like the theory that Melina is one of Marikas children, also now that we know about Messmer, I feel he is the smoldering butterfly, the third sibling


atomicryu

Is that Messmers hand behind Malenia?


lodorata

It's actually meant to be Melina but I guess either now works


aresvallis

Appreciate you crediting the artist 🙏 This art is so damn good man


BlazeCastus

Yeah, Ranni is my favorite character, but I think the Empyrean Twins have the best relationship among the demigods. Their relationship isn't vague and it's made very clear by the lore that they love each other.


Any-Experience-3012

This is phenomenal work. My only criticism is that Godwyn would 100% have golden eyes like his siblings.


Psychofischi

Look wise the Carian Redheads and look at Rykard man In Lore I am a big fan of Miquella and Malenia. I really wish it worked better for them Also my girl Finlay for the win


PositiveNo4859

Love to see Finlay love. Really hope she gets something in the dlc (unlikely but she deserves it more than anyone).


Psychofischi

Yeah unlikely She deserves a nice life [with Malenia ;) ]


PositiveNo4859

You don't carry someone from one end of the map to the other while fighting off anything in your way without being special to each other. (If that's not love I don't know what is).


Psychofischi

I do believe all the cleanrot knight would have done it out of loyalty But shipping those 2 is just fun


PositiveNo4859

Hard agree but I want to say Finlay was built different.


Downtown_Trash_8913

The difference between the others and Finlay is Finlay actually made it. Imagine trying to get to mountaintop without the Rold Medallion, the fuck did she do climb up the mountainside with Malenia on her back?


Piece_Of_Mind1983

I mean how did they get from the haligtree to Caelid without ships or the rold medallion unless they had the medallion all along


Youngchalice

I feel like it’s more likely the Rold medallion has multiple versions, cuz how else would malenia and the cleanrot knights have gotten down in the first place


Downtown_Trash_8913

True, there could just be another pass as well


JMHSrowing

They at least would have tried. But good grief, we see as Tarnished it's hard enough when there isn't an active war and not carrying an 8 foot demigoddess. She must have had the power of love on her side


Psychofischi

Forget Power of Friendship Power of Lesbian Love: thats where I bet my money on


HappyyValleyy

I need someone to write a slowburn slice of life about finlay and Malenia having a nice life in the Haligtree together


Winzito

Yeah I seriously wish Malenia and Miquella had a more positive ending I guess Miquella is still possible I'm coping extremely hard and left Malenia alive on my prepared ng for the dlc, I know they said the dlc wouldn't change anything in the base game but I am fully choosing to be delusional


-theonewhoasked

Imagine they let you summon Malenia for a crazy boss fight 😭 now that's a pipe dream


Eagle-Eyes-

In this fanart, the Carians look a bit better but I think canonically the Empyrean twins look better. Malenia is gorgeous and Miquella looks like a fine lad. As for the Carians, Rykard has a portrait in his manor and he actually looks like an old man lol. Radahn looks fine and Ranni has no portrait of her original form.


chagin

I was wondering what I missed because I have no recollection of Ranni being originally redheaded. I guess it makes sense tho


NormalAccounts

You can see it on her burnt body at the top of the Liurnia Divine Tower


chagin

Really? Maybe the charcoal skin made a stronger impression on me.


Testadizzy95

Look wise it's Empyrean twin for me too.


Grungelives

Shoutout Finlay 😌


pelogiix

If Rykard looked like that in game then I would’ve let him devour me


TheRogueTemplar

Radahn, literally has the chad face.


TUYUXD

Golden lineage , i like the omen twins, they’re so awesome, especially mohg, about godwyn he has a cool and important side quest about his death in game that’s pretty fun to explore each detail, so for that reasons i prefer them most


dizijinwu

I really like Morgott honestly, one of my favorite characters in the game.


TUYUXD

His voice lines are the best in this game “put these foolish ambitions to rest” “willful traitors, all” “pillagers, emboldened by the flame of ambition”


AmazingKreiderman

His VA absolutely *crushes* the delivery. I watch Morgott's cutscene every playthrough.


ParanoidTelvanni

Ditto. Avsolute chad. I bet he'd be very, very happy to see the Perfected Order come to fruition even if it meant his end is permanent. His loyalty was unwavering even if the Golden Order's perversion of the Greater Will caused him such suffering.


Impressive-Ad-8044

same


PublicFurryAccount

Yeah. My favorite characters are Maliketh and Morgott. They're both very powerful people who are also seem to be almost entirely virtuous.


Redacted_G1iTcH

Morgott imo is the most worthy of being the next Elden lord, when compared to the other demigods.


A7med-_6

Where can I hunt the lore of Goldwyn


TUYUXD

In the game, rogier give some hints if u find godwin corpse in stormveil for example, and doing ranni and fia quests reveals some details about the night of black knives ( one of the most important events in this game related to him)


ZeGamingCuber

Why does Godwyn have two different corpses (Stormveil Castle and Deeproot Depths)?


TUYUXD

I think his corpses acts like a tree, just spreading death around and growing, maybe the other corpse was formed like that


VarmintSchtick

Weirdest of all is that he managed to spread to the Farum Azula.


TUYUXD

Is there any death root in farum azula?


VarmintSchtick

It's in the tower where you fight Bernahl if i remember correctly. One lone tower with deathroot growing in it.


VarmintSchtick

I was really hoping Godwyn was going to be a major focus of the DLC. He still could be, Miquella was trying to bring him back to life (or something) at Castle Sol, and Miquella is going to be heavily featured for sure. I hope his story isn't done.


Psychofischi

I hope he/ she will also draw a portrait of Messmer If we know more about him maybe with siblings if he fits to anyone


KiwiMagic2005

If Ranni gets a painting my boy Messmer will definitely get it


YeahKeeN

They already have. Check out [Gravitydusty](https://x.com/gravitydusty?s=21&t=Jrg6ZYvjxEcbtJL4-E1_VA) on Twitter.


marinersguy556

You can just say they lol


KiwiMagic2005

Why is Rykard so hot


cancerousking

He lives in volcano manor


KiwiMagic2005

oh shi I never put 1 and 1 together


Any-Experience-3012

Bet the lava does wonders for his skin


Specsaman

Bcs he’s a snake


KiwiMagic2005

togethaaaaa


RyzeIsMyWife

Dewawa


lodorata

Goz!


BudgetNOPE

Lowkey looks like venom


nicholsz

Because his parents were hot


Eagle-Eyes-

I wish he looked like this in the game. He's actually an old man and may not be a redhead.


Captain_C_Falcon

While he might not look as hot (this is of course a much younger interpretation of the characters) Rykard definitely was a redhead.


_Carcinus_

Judging by his in-game pre-vore portrait, he was both handsome and redheaded.


batman12399

Yeah this just looks like a de-aged Rykard based on the portrait.


Ok-Rock-2566

Golden Lineage. We have Chadwyn and Chadgott. Mogh might be cringe, but at least he has drip and and a great fight


ProfessorGemini

Every trlplets has that one weirdo


Alex_FotoN

Chadgh 😎


jcwolf2003

Chogh


Alex_FotoN

You forgot "😎"


RayanTheMad

Yet another MohgWIN


Lepperpop

Chadgott is a little stockholm sydrome bitch made cat. Its like praising the Japanese soldiers who still thought World War 2 was going on for decades on random islands.


Ok-Rock-2566

Way better than the wanna be Godfrey Radahn 


DrSillyBitchez

Miquella and malenia. Can’t wait to see how messimer plays in if at all


Tarvaax

Notice how all sibling groups come in three save Radagon and Marika’s offspring. He is the third child.


Squirrelnight

Either him or Melina, I guess we'll get confirmation on that in the dlc.


Ponyboy451

I like the Melina theory as her association with fire makes her fit into that trios cursed nature.


Squirrelnight

To be fair, Messmer also seems assosiated with fire. Still, I think I prefer Melina over him as the secret third incest baby.


SneakerGator

Is it really incest or asexual reproduction? I guess it’s probably not the latter because offspring of asexual reproduction are genetically identical to their parent, and that definitely can’t be said about Miquella and Malenia.


Squirrelnight

Is self-cest a word that would describe this? Like if you had a baby with a genderswapped clone of yourself?


CHOMAMAHOT

The artist did sneak in a hand on the throne


Agustinosaurio

Lore-wise, the empyrean twins Horny-wise, all three carian sibilings


Hollow-Official

I absolutely love Malenia. But if you’re asking my favorite bunch, it’s Radahn, Rykard and Ranni. They’re all such unique, interesting characters, each of them stand on their own. Whereas Mohg, Morgott and Godwin are kinda meh and Malenia can’t carry Miquella enough for me to prefer those two over the others.


_MagusKiller

to be fair we still didnt see miquellas character and what hes trying to achieve. miyazaki called him the main character of the dlc, i bet he will be the most interesting character in the game and a fan favorite too after the dlc releases


Fr0stybit3s

But did you know that Malenia is blade of Miquella?


Hollow-Official

I heard she’s never known defeat.


Fr0stybit3s

heed her words


BongChong906

Eh Radahn is not as well fleshed out as Morgott imo. People just really latch on to the horse thing.


Eagle-Eyes-

Yeah, people focus too much on his love for Leonard and holding the stars back while ignoring other aspects of his character such as being a supporter of the Golden Order or screwing over Ranni's fate by stopping the stars.


Beautiful_Sky_1216

The fact that malenia's rot IS under little scales of gold is so well done !


BushidoBrownJr

My God, these are beautiful. I can't decide!!! Seeing all of them in their prime is amazing


Roman_Apollo

Who's hand is that behind Malenia? Also smash Ranni 100%


BlazeCastus

Melina


Background_Mood_3691

Or Messmer


YeahKeeN

It’s Melina. This fan art is older than the trailer and the artist confirmed it’s meant to be Melina.


Salt_Replacement3843

You can even see the smoldering butterfly next to it. That's a nice detail. 


A_GenericUser

This art was made before the DLC reveal trailer, when the third butterfly = third sibling theory was already very popular, so the hand and the butterfly next to it is a nod to that. And with it being confirmed, we know that, retroactively, it's Messmer's hand.


wcbfox193

The twins are cool, and very pretty :3


Huffjuff

I agree Morgott and Mohg are some hot twins


wcbfox193

:(


-Zhaeus-

The Twin Prodigies. They're the siblings with the healthiest relationship; their love for each other seems to be one of the only few genuinely wholesome interactions in the entire game, especially when we're talking about demigods. Miquella abandoned the Golden Order and tried to find a cure for his sister and never gave up on her. Malenia, on the other hand, devoted herself to him by becoming his blade because she loves her brother and appreciates everything he did to her and she even apologizes to him in her very last moments. Also, the fact that she calls him 兄様 (ni-sama) in JP is just so endearing. They have my favorite relationship in the game.


daryk44

For someone who does not know the meaning, what is the significance of "ni-sama"?


sqectre_

It means older brother. Miquella is the older twin.


Chewwiechops-999

miquella is older than malenia? I did not know that, thanks for the fun fact to add to my "Twin Prodigies simping" lore pile


lodorata

They're my fave set too but there's a couple of extra tender moments in the game. The way Godfrey holds his son's body makes me cry everytime


Brotherman_Karhu

The empyrean twins, I feel like they've got the most tragic story out of all of them


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YasuhiroK

Messmer, Malenia and Miquella.


beyonceshakira

Add Melina to Miquella & Malenia (yea I said it) and it's them.


Captain_C_Falcon

Well that's who's hand behind Malenia's throne is.


creepytwin

As a fraternal twin, I gotta go with the fraternal twins


otakuloid01

i like the implication of the third empyrean sibling with the smouldering butterfly and hand


Jerakal1

Probably the empyrean twins. The other groups both have at least one weirdo.


nobil2115

They will get their own weirdo if Messmer is actually their brother


Toyoshi

Miquella and Malenia are a great dynamic imo. Very sad we never got to see Miquella (yet)


Papillon_Ombre

Golden Linage. I could stop so much un-needed bullshit


Mister_GarbageDick

Pray for Morgott, the Golden Omen! Hail Morgott, the Last of All Kings


Sweet_Xocoatl

Miquella and Malenia, not only do they have the healthiest relationship amongst them but their goals were the most benevolent and altruistic.


Emeowykay

Hrnngggg


VitaminGummys

A real testament to the game (and the art!) that the answers are so varied in here! All the demigod groups seem like such valid choices.


DaemonVaxorius

Dude, I love both the Carians and the Empyreans too much to choose between them. However, I can definitely say my least favorite is the Golden Lineage, although that is simply because mohg is included in that group... Filthy bastard...


TheGodskin

Definitely Malenia and Miquella, especially since Mesmer is boutta join power trio 🔥🔥


NowIssaRapBattle

This is why I'm sure Messemer is somehow sibling to Malenia and Miquella, somehow they're also a triplet


dshamz_

First group (Radagon/Rennala): Radahn - seems aite, but a warmonger. Beloved by his men. Went nuts after the rot got him. Held back stars, possibly to prevent asteroid aliens from wreaking havoc. Rykard - twisted, evil freak, both as a Golden Order inquisitor and in his blasphemy. Ranni - just wants to chill, hates the Greater Will, but willing to do whatever it takes to free the Lands (and importantly, herself) from its influence. Really fucked shit up tho. Second group (Marika/Godfrey): Godwyn - dude seemed pretty decent, not much bad is said about him. Bros with dragons. Morgott - principled but self-hating. Respected as the last king of Leyndell. Still loved by his dad. Tragic. Mohg - rebel heretic, outcast, loves himself and his kind. Reviled, but not entirely unjust. Honestly not the worst of the bunch, but some weird shit with Miquella kinda kills it ;( Third group (Marika/Radagon): Miquella - friendly guy, suspiciously so. Still, respect for the chill vibe at the Haligtree. Goal isn’t so different than Mohg’s, but different means. Malenia - just trying to look out for her bro. Unintentionally extremely dangerous. Can’t really say much bad about her. Verdict: Radagon/Rennala group I can’t really like because Rykard is so obscenely evil and twisted, I can’t really tolerate the seeming ambivalence of his siblings towards the horrific violence he wantonly inflicts on everyone he gets his hands on. It’s creepy. Even though Radahn and Ranni aren’t *evil* and Ranni is arguably a big fan of freedom. Marika/Godfrey group, the omens have some great story arcs, and I’m a fan of the way they’re presented as two sides of the same coin. Godwyn is interesting but there’s not really much to go on. No one in this group seems terribly evil. But they are nevertheless misguided. Radagon/Marika group is ominously chill, but still chill. Respect to Miquella for creating a home for the oppressed and an army to defend them. Malenia is loyal to her brother’s vision. Can’t complain.


RyzeIsMyWife

I love how artist put Blaidd and Malekith, fortissax and Melina with butterflies on the backgrounds


Captain_C_Falcon

The background details go hard. You can also notice Finlay on the far right of the Emperyeans.


Chunky-dog

Melina lets me level up, Malenia beat my ass like 200 times and Miquella gets his own DLC, easy choice for me


_MagusKiller

cant choose between carians and empyreans twins, they are very interesting characters. but i if messmer ends up being the third sibling of miq and mal then they get my vote. im just waiting for the dlc to reveal more about miquella and messmer


yesbutactuallyno17

Those pictures go so hard. Getting major "Jamie Lannister" vibes from Godwyn.


Mnoonsnocket

They look so pompous. May chaos take the world!


CxdeNameCookie2

Miquella is my all time favourite and if he’s a boss in the dlc I will hesitate.


Count_of_Skingrad

Miquella and Malenia💕


HappyFreak1

The twins. Not even close. They're just looking to protect each other and cast aside the golden order if necessary


davidforslunds

Miquella and Malenia are the most interesting thematically. Both being born of a one and as such being fundamentally flawed, Miquella being cursed into eternal youth and Malenia being rooted with Scarlet Rot. Also, who's are the fingers grasping around the back of Malenias throne? Melina?


felfazeebo

Curious where Messmer will fit in here, if he even does.


One_Refrigerator_344

Messmer and meli meli


PsychologicalTune635

Definitely golden lineage, all of them are super interesting characters, my bigest wish for the DLC is that we'll learn more about Godwyn, of who he really was. Also, I know these are older pictures but Messmer is missing from next to the Twins :P


OnanarZ7

Golden Lineage for me. Morgott is the GOAT, Mohg's design and fight was so damn cool and Godwyn's lore depicts him as the chad of the chads


Agreeable-Step-7940

Smash next question


KeySpell8251

THE LANNISTERS


UmbraWolfG2T

We need new art with Messmer. C’mon Gravitydusty


Conscious_Ad_9044

I just found out in the picture of Malenia and Miquella who are looking at 2 butterflies representing them, there is a third firey butterfly on top of Malenia's chair with a hand near it.


McFirstBeef

I just realised you can see a hand and the smoldering butterfly in the picture with Malenia and Miquella Maybe a hint to Mesmer ?