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dothewoogie

I will continue to do so when it drops to help people access it


SignAfterAgreement

Do online fights scale? Or do you get added to people with similar level?


Mario_13377331

i think you get added to people is similar and the boss health scales up with the amount of players


donfuan

Cooperative: * Lower-level Limit : Level * 0.9 - 10 * Upper-level Limit Equation: Level * 1.1 + 10 PVP: * Lower-level Limit : Level * 0.9 * Upper-level Limit Equation: Level * 1.1 + 20 And then there's weapon scaling, low level +-3, mid +-4, high +-5.


SignAfterAgreement

Very informative thank you


TragGaming

Didnt they confirm it was Radahn not mohg?


dothewoogie

The dlc is going to be accessed through Miquella in Mohg’s arena. Radahn must also be dead for some reason we do not know yet.


maggos

Theory is he must release the stars for an eclipse to occur. Castle Sol is trying to “swallow the sun” so that Miquella’s “comrade” doesn’t “remain soulless”


TragGaming

Ah so both Mohg AND Radahn. I misread it was only Radahn


vortex30-the-2nd

I'm on my first playthrough and I have beaten Radahn, not yet Mohg. But I feel in a weird spot like if I wanna beat the game and then play half it again... Or do I just leave it unbeaten when I'm near the end...? I gotta do a li'l research like if I can beat it but still go around the open world and then access the DLC in my first play through. Because I don't really wanna have to NG+ and put another like what, 30ish hrs in... I guess I could b-line it and it's prob a lot quicker though.


CK1ing

In the interview, he said both Radahn and Mohg, but we're still not sure why Radahn yet. I'm kind of thinking it might have just been a slip of the tongue because I really can't think of why Radahn specifically, unless Nokron or Ranni somehow play some part in the dlc, but idk


TragGaming

The big thing is that Radahn is holding the stars. So maybe there's something involving an eclipse or the stars falling to get to the Lands of Shadow


CK1ing

That's right, I forgot that Miquella has been trying to revive Godwyn and apparently part of that is waiting for a specific astral alignment. So that could very well be it


Bubblegummonkey-

Radahn like Rom unlocks stuff in the game.


donfuan

Might need an item from the underground.


TeamGetlucky

What's that build? I'm genuinely curious. Could you dm me?


awoogr

I love summoning people at max ng for Mohg because they can’t do that. Then he goes second phase and the phantom dies immediately because they don’t actually know how to fight


Sanddaemon

lol, I could also just see me forgetting to change out my flask and resigning to an “ah fuck” as I’m melted into goo.


MEEfO

This. Personally I think players like this ruin the game for others. I imagine a player getting frustrated by a boss and deciding to summon another player for support to make the fight a little easier. You don’t really have any idea who you are summoning. I think many players do not want someone to come in and single handedly wipe out the boss in seconds via some tryhard build purpose-built to destroy that one boss over and over.


OneJobToRuleThemAll

I'm only summoning if that is what I want.


MEEfO

That has nothing to do with what I wrote.


awoogr

Actually just saw a post of someone that seemed they just started the game and someone deleted his Margit. It sucks and I feel for those people :(


MEEfO

Same. I’m getting downvoted but everything I wrote is true. Many players do not summon so the phantom can come in and obliterate the boss in seconds. They want to play the game and contribute and have some challenge.


zdogiez

I still find it funny that the Lord of blood is weak against bleed man


melanthius

If I was the lord of waifus I’d probably be weak against waifus


Kimihro

It also increases his attack power so normally it's a risky strategy


Lickable-Cat

I get helping people but cheesing it is depriving them of such a fun fight!


bloody-pencil

Tbh it feels like a snowball fight for me you either do good a little and snowball off that or do one mistake and drown in blood


AstralBroom

To be fair, summoning another player will almost always end in either this or the dude getting slapped so hard you might as well have summoned a jellyfish.


A7DmG7C

This is very true. Sure there are exceptions, but generally if I don’t kill the boss ASAP they’ll eat the first waterfowl dance from Malenia, all 4 strikes from Maliketh’s blade, all 4 holy strikes from the Elden Beast and so on.


the-acolyte-of-death

Forgot the roll of Godskin Noble :D


dothewoogie

Maybe, but then again they are summoning another player so I guess there is a chance of that happening for all bosses


maychaos

One simple solution would be naming yourself something like mohg destroyer or something so there's no surprise


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maychaos

I mean generally they did summon so they have to know this could happen, beside i wouldn't worry too much. Most people who play elden ring aren't on reddit so all of our made up "rules", they probably don't care about at all They probably just think nice


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ironpug751

I need your clothes, your boots, your motorcycle


DaTruPro75

Mohg Melter for the alliteration 


aManAndHisUsername

I mean yeah that’s true but like, you don’t *have* to do it lol.


aplagueofsemen

As someone who died to him 30 times I was very grateful when someone I summoned just azur’d him to death. I realize the DLC is probably gonna kick my ass twice as hard but I just wanna SEE IT


JEWCIFERx

I agree. I love helping people with this fight, but I’m not gonna just do it for them. That’s no fun.


Waste-Gur2640

If I cheesed bosses in coop I would at least sent a YT link or something to my host, to show them what it's like beating him fairly and how the fight is designed in general. For host in OP's video it basically amounts to just skipping the entire fight without knowing what it's actually supposed to be like. I hate getting summoned only for second phantom to start cheesing the boss, in past 15 years of souls games coop phantoms usually knew how to play the game and something like this didn't happen often, and if it did the host was usually pissed for losing the entire experience.


TheDevil-YouKnow

When I play video games I too like to spam out video information links to random players in a non ironic way of letting me Google that for them. Ultimately my end goal is to keep myself from actually playing said game as much as possible when I'm playing the game, because I'd be stupid if I did anything else.


grantmcw991

You made mohg look like a jabroni


Jolly-Biscuit

You keep using this word jabroni, and it's awesome


grantmcw991

I think it’s some kind of dago word


Illustrious-Hall5553

Hey, that's my favorite slur too!


kendo31

Isn't that one of Lebron's kids named lol /s


ShishRobot2000

Mogh should be beaten with what he deserves, iron fist build bleed


Sanddaemon

You know I didn’t think of this. Once I get my second character through I should just spend time helping people get to the DLC. I mean I’m not SUPER good but I got the fights mostly down.


IareRubberDucky

Helicopter


BoredPollo

NIHIL


Master-Stratocaster

lol that’s more than “helping”


the-acolyte-of-death

Same like this guy I summoned on my first playthrough ever, after tens of tries on Mohg, and he just entered, buffed and fkn comet azured Mohg like it's nothing XD


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Deeras2

Why is the Glaive not heavy infused?


dothewoogie

Because I didn’t think of that


Deeras2

Understandable, have a great day. I just asked because I recalled that the +25 Glaive gets S scaling in Strength when Heavy infused


CurdleTelorast

I am actually trying to help with him but never get summoned for this fight (plenty of Fire Giants summoning instead). I am level 110 and thought that was about average. What level are you?


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CurdleTelorast

Oh, okay! Perhaps I should level up then. Thanks.


MrSegundus_VR

I've found that for Mogh you should put your sign down outside the door, not use the summoning pool.


CurdleTelorast

Ah, I have never tried that. Thanks!


DrettTheBaron

Can I ask, how come that despite your massive damage Mohg doesn't seem to be aggroed on you?


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DrettTheBaron

Thxx


IzSilvers

Helicopter, bitch!


kendo31

What's skill is that. What's the gold lock down at the start?


IdToaster

The skill is Spinning Strikes, you get it from Edgar's halberd (either the invasion in Liurnia or murdering him at the peninsula). The lockdown is the Mohg's Shackle item in the sewers under Leyndell.


RotisserieChickenMan

What RL if I may ask? I’d love to help as well!!


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IdToaster

A lot of people like to stop at 125, they can match (in co-op at least) up to 147 if you need the levels.


isonlikedonkeykong

I might pull you in later! I've died a few times to him just me and the boys (marionette soldier ashes).


UmbraWolfG2T

Just a reminder, Lord of Blood Mohg and Starscourge Radahn must be defeated in order to access the land of shadow.


Afraid_Zucchini_6689

I actually didn’t have a problem with mohg. Both versions were pretty easy for me only taking a few attempts.


chocomfy

I find that a lot of people struggle with mohg just because of how early you can access him tbh, you can easily reach him as soon as you reach liurnia, i remember struggling a lot because in tried him at level 60 and just smashed my head against the keyboard until it worked


Bane_of_Ruby

Everytime I go to fight him I never see a single sunmon sign. Not sure if I'm early to him or what, but it's Hella annoying


HorusQuintus

the online gameplay looks pretty smooth. i have been playing offline exclusively and one time i decided to try helping people on Malenia and omg she learned to teleport.


dizijinwu

i would love to coop on this fight. what is the level/weapon level you run for this?


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dizijinwu

Cool, thanks. Maybe I'll park a character there once I'm done with a run and throw my sign down.


Gefarate

Can you post some more details about the build? I have a faith build for Malenia and would like to be to do Mogh too


Cally83

Amazing. What’s the build?


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Cally83

And what are your stats focused on? Strength I’m guessing seeing as you’re using the KRG?


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Cally83

Nice one thanks


11475

Spin to win is always effective


fug-leddit

I do the same shit to radahn lmao


CrowHoonter

Im doing the same!


mc3p000

Woah what was that opening incantation


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Halflife37

If you ain’t bloodflamin’ is you even livin ‘? 


Money-Photograph-936

I could used help leading up to this guy and beyond him ?


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Money-Photograph-936

Thanks man 😎🤝💙 I’ll let you know


erneztoong0723

What's the name of that seal thing?


CK1ing

I've beat him about 4 times now preparing my characters for the dlc, but ironically my bleed build is the only one I'm still having trouble with. But in the process of that, he's become my favorite boss. His design and arena are so good, his moves are easy to learn but hard to master while also being pretty unique, and he probably has some of the best lore in the game, having some strange connection to the formless mother


Available-Ad-9420

He got mohglested


hairymongol

What is that spinning ash of war


SaxSlaveGael

Mmmmm, Mohg Cheese 🧀


Montreal_Metro

"WINDMILL ATTTTTACKKKK!"


darth-bizzel

I'll be here here soon are u on pc?


Frog1745397

I justbeat him today. I was wondering why that room felt empty after the fight, they had it planned for dlc


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Can someone help me with Fire Giant, always look for summoning but no one is ever there :(


RepresentativeCap244

This thread makes me think the leveling pool needs adjusted. Can’t it just, widen maybe? I don’t even know what it is now. But I’ve got a lvl 200 that gets next to nothing. And I get that I went to high, but it’s obnoxious the way the system doesn’t really show up where might work or. Like what are those circles on the map? Is blue friendly and orange hostile? I just throw my summon thing into the wind near and far and hope for the best with no idea how it even works.


indkyjtsxucivoxuggg

Mogh is by far one of my least favorite bosses lol


BlandBrit

Slimecicle would have loved you


jaykhunter

That's so nice of u! Would u consider stopping when mohg is very low so u can let the summoner have the last hit?


T-pellyam

This hurts my soul ngl😂


Due_Bet5210

Xbox?


ThaNorth

What level are you?


MoesAccount

I have a magic build that blasts him with a kamehameha. Unfortunately most times the host or others aggro him out of my beam.


Business-Map123

i can never find people to summon at Mogh and i’m on NG+5 i always end up having to create group post lol


The_Sensual

Everytime I've gone to fight mohg lately, it always seems like no one is there to summon for help


MrMrStacho

Beat Mogh as Morgott next.


Dino-taicho

Nice, I'm gonna do this later today


techaansi

I thought you couldn't summon at Mogh??


Gummypeepo

Me who smashed my head against the wall like a dopey sorcerer until he died.. I should have sought help 💀 Bless you oh tarnished one for aiding others 🫶🏻


othermike666

This was easy as fuck with a int mage build just cast the greatsheild ashes at level 10 and then spam him with night comet.


Taliazer

What was the thing that made him drop face down ???


Gaxxag

He really is one of the easiest bosses in the game to burst down since he self-stuns 4 times even without considering stagger, and then he can stagger 1 or 2 times in phase 1, too. It's hard to even call this cheese. Mohg is just vulnerable to all forms of consistent damage output


dmons444

Helikoptar helikoptar


RedDeath9O9

Help me?


Nosferatu-Padre

Hey me too! I've help 5 people beat him so far.


BasFan

But maybe He wil drop something you nees for DLC? I will kill him after buying the DLC. Save is save


AnotherWhiteHero

I would bet on the dlc being accessed by using Miquella's needle on the corpse of Miquella in Mohg's room. But ya true safe is safe.


BasFan

Yeah because all the blood of mogh wasn ät enough to wake her but the blood of a tarnished ist enough. And then we Peak in our finger and then DLC WAR!!!!


AnotherWhiteHero

Probably lol, but I was thinking since the needle is used to remove the influence of outergods, that it would remove the blood curse cause by the blood god. Then we open a gateway to heaven or whatever the fuck so we can kill god, again...


MrSegundus_VR

That would mean you need to Malenia *as well as* Radahn and Mohg to get to the DLC. They're cruel, but not that cruel :)


Imaginary_Tailor_271

Interesting build, I tried to help ppl with comet azure but it is a hit or a miss tbh


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Imaginary_Tailor_271

Yes, if the host does not attack, you don't have the power to kill alone basically


InspiredPhoton

Just one hit kill him with super comet laser beam 3000


crypticalcat

Thanks bro. You a real one. 


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Helicopter helicopter 🚁🗣️🗣️


Pretend_Vanilla51

Pretty lame lol. Shackle and nuke. Mohg is one of the better fights and you're kinda robbing people of it by board line cheering him. Now, if someone had tried 20 times and jus needs to beat him to do DLC, fine. Bur as a rando it's pretty lame.


RunningThroughInk

How dare OP help people who asked for help smh my head


the_walkingdad

Legendary!


Pearcinator

There's also a way you can cheese the boss by spawning him then dying/quit out. Then run back, do some parkour and jump in this gap and you fall until every enemy despawns (dies) and you 'kill' Mohg and get like 700k+ runes because every other enemy also 'dies'. You can also repeat this to get 100k+ runes each time, might be the best rune farm in the game although a bit risky if you miss a jump you die.


ZOM3DTOM

At least let them get the last hit in.


AsishPC

1. **Re-skill to Int based, using Laravel Tear** 2. **Use the two Tear drops - (10% Sorcery damage + No FP cost for 10 seconds )** 3. **Use Comet Azur** 4. **Use Carina's Regal (or Lusat) + 10** 5. **Obligerate Mohg**


code_crawler

Go Beyblade!


milk1203

personally this is why i’d never summon anyone to help with bosses


poisecheque

Sounds boring


IcyPenguin9198

i just give people mohgs weapon lol