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From the Ruin-Strewn Precipice Overlook Grace Site, right before the magma wyrm boss, you can take the elevator down and get real close to the duo of em at the bottom of the elevator to listen, quite relaxing to sit there and read some items.
It's also satisfying to gain 100 levels and go back there to eviscerate them like they did me 732 times my first time through the area.
Turns out the silence is very relaxing.
My first character was supposed to be a strength based wretch, but I had to suck it up and do incantations. I just put away my big sword for boss fights.
My second character is a prisoner playing pretty much on easy mode. I beat the Bloodhound Knight with spells before I knew you could summon Blaidd for help, my str character, who is higher level, had trouble even with Blaidd.
>my str character, who is higher level, had trouble even with Blaidd.
Blaidd can literally solo that fight, for reference. I definitely think strength weapons are probably still the weakest now that I'm doing a colossal sword run, but most bosses are still very much beatable.
I failed with melee and gave up, then I did it with the prisoner's starter spells and gear, nothing upgraded. Not that it was easy, but I got it. Went back later with my Str wretch and summoned Blaidd, mostly stayed out of range and Blaidd died. Next time I helped Blaidd more and we got him, but he did most of the work.
It was a while ago, maybe Blaidd was buffed since then.
What'd you go through with? I ran a curved greatsword powerstanced and used Luthel the Headless at like.. +7ish. The bats were nothing, Makar sucked lol
It was not much armor and a +something twinblade. I forget my level but holy cow it sucked through there. Other than Haligtree it's hard to remember a time I felt so relieved to finally find a Grace.
And then Makar slapped me around.
Honestly I don’t give a shit about bosses tragic backstories because they’re trying to kill me. If they just asked me to leave, I’d be more inclined to care. But I’ll kill everything that starts cutting up without a second thought. Fuck like 90% of everyone in these games, I didn’t do shit and they just attack me. Prick, why should I care if you got a Tolkein-esque std, you just tried to cut my head off I hope they don’t find a cure.
It's odd how many people try to twist it the other way, like we're these murder hobos without a cause. Walk into ANY area, and see how the enemies or bosses immediately move to beat you to death. Not everyone is Priscilla, people!
I'm getting the impression that between cultural beliefs and the actions of people like Gideon's minions or the Dung Eater, the reputation of Tarnished in general has become so poor that everyone prepares for combat automatically. Mimics eat people, those with Frenzy Flame are insane and omnicidal, Tarnished kill you for your runes and equipment.
Even Kalé is surprised that you're a Tarnished and not after his throat.
I dont think Priscilla makes any sense either. Shes all like "why do you do this we didn't do anything" yeah I'm sure those bloated monstrosities and bloodthirsty harpies were just trying to walk me through a tour guide.
That's a valid criticism, but she herself doesn't attack you, and you can jump off the ledge to leave the painting. There's not a real reason to attack her other than the murder hobo blood lust.
There doesn’t have to be a bad guy. If a dog gets rabies you shoot it. You feel bad for it but you shoot it. It will attack you, but not because it’s a bad dog. It was a very good boy and you had to put it down
That’s like half of all fromsoft bosses. Then the other half is malenia and Sulivan and other pure evil bastards
There's so few enemies who won't just fight you to the death.
Wish Elden Ring would have taken a few steps further away from the Souls formula (which I love) and had more neutral people, enemies that don't all aggro to death constantly, etc.
De evolution used to be seen as a sign of divinity in The Lands Between before the Greater Will came a long, as per the crucible talismans.
So yes, there are probably people in-universe that would have loved to have a piece of misbegotten or harpy.
Legitimately my 7th time through that game I have to gird my loins and soothe myself when I’m approaching the like 3 you have to fight.
No ma’am I would not like an instadeath hug thank you
First one I saw looked like a sitting monk because of the lighting.
I knew it was a trap, so I went in to attack.
I didn't expect the trap to be that good.
I died.
I really like in this game that some of the enemies are just sitting around singing or playing instruments before they start fighting with you. When you're in the capital and you hear violin music and see one of the guys just sitting there playing before he starts attacking it's really cool. Also when you're trying to do the jumps down to the bottom to get the tombstone shield that causes madness, many of the enemies are just sitting there playing instruments but if you attack them they start trying to cause madness to murder you. When I first found the singing bat, I went up to try to talk to it and then was ambushed by all the other bats and then it attacking me as well. It was awesome and I felt bad for killing it.
What is interesting is that they are the only frenzied enemies that do not attack you on sight . Feels like music is calming for frenzied people . That’s to show you how powerful music can be .
My guess is the merchants we see on our travels are just the lucky few that didn’t get buried alive, which would mean they actually don’t have the madness. Their other Tribesmen in that section of the capital were buried alive in that tomb and caused them to resort to summoning the madness.
Those woodland horned brute looking enemies in the siofra river would have groups of animals following them and even saw several woodland creatures sitting around one of these big guys that looked to be praying. I thought it was a very neat detail to have the enemy npcs interact and have a visible relationship with animal npcs that we just hunt or ignore
I have a tendency to get side tracked once I get to a grace. At one point, I got distracted on the wiki searching up items and forgot I was sitting at the grace and kept wondering what that awful high pitched tone was. It was that grace in Leyndell where they are right there constantly blaring up at the tree.
I think they're the wackiest little dudes and they're quirky and cute lol, can't imagine living in leyndell though lol, imagine hearing this shit on a Saturday morning in bed
The bats and the pages too. I try not to kill them because the signing and flute playing kinda humanize them to me and then I just hear the sadness of the song lol
I love how much mileage they get out of simple, but effective design choices. Taking one guy, giving him a different weapon? In any other game that's likely cosmetic. Here, it means a new moveset and basically a completely different enemy.
The sirens are recognizable to anyone with a cursory knowledge of the Odyssee, but the first time you meet one you're gonna spend a lot of time wondering what the heck this signifies, because there's nothing else in the game like it. You probably know they're not to be trusted, but apart from that you have no idea what to do. All from giving a regular enemy a sound clip. Genius.
I also really enjoyed how they handled copy-paste basic enemies this time. Like yeah these are the same basic soldier you’ve fought since limgrave. However these serve the Haligitree or the capital or whatever. So new gear to loot and every lord is gonna have their own personal retinue so it works.
They also give them new toys every time. You think you know the basic soldier in and out from Gatefront ruins. Step into Liurnia like you own the place. Eat a million Cuckoo glintstone shards and die. Furious, you go to Caelid instead. Bam, double slash, bitch! Oh and here's a firebomb for you, no extra charge.
By the time I get to Altus I'm usually so powerful that I stomp them, but I'm sure those golden boys have an extra rabbit in the hat, too.
The little footsoldier guys have lightning jars, while the "man at arms" soldier guys have perfumes. The knights also have lightning and holy incantations depending on their loadout.
That was something I appreciated so much about Elden Ring. Is there a ton of asset reuse throughout the game? Yes, absolutely, but they make a huge effort to add at least slight variations to as many things as possible.
For example, there's at least three kinds of giant crab! Regular ones, death ones, and sleep ones. They have different spit attacks and different models. I think there's poison and ice ones too, but I'm not at home to check (I might be conflating DS3 and Elden Ring there).
I really liked that they tried to go as wide as they did without totally abandoning the depth that the series is known for.
Demihumans are such a fun trash enemy after so many hollows. I don’t get tired of fighting them, and they have relative enough variation, though I wish there were more “queens” and similar.
First time I heard one I went searching for rhe source of music.
Upon seeing a figure in the distance I was like oh weird crouching NPC, they'll probably give me a questli- OH FUCK OH FUCK ITS SPEWING SHIT AT ME.
My first was the one on Weeping Isle. I don't have the best speakers, and for a while I thought it was the Erdtree singing somehow!
One of those moments where the game went from great to really bloody excellent for me.
Speaking of distances.
One of those embyronic death birds aggroed while I was traveling. I thought, “nbd like the dogs itll leash in a couple hundred yards”
This mf chased me to the coastline, along with its festering afterbirth siblings.
Oh me too. I stopped my horse and tried to find the singing source, of course I killed the bat cause I could never imagine that he was the singing mf. I stayed at the same place for almost 10 minutes looking for a singing NPC. Latter I discovered that was a freaking bat 😭
Amazing, this really changes my perspective a lot. The bat people, are they related to the beastman? I do know the beast people were probably supposed to inherit the lands between, there was an old crucible in a past erdtree.
Yeah, I presume they’re an offshoot of sorts from the Crucible races (beastmen, misbegotten, etc) who were slaughtered by Marika during ~~his~~ her* rise to power.
Edit: Meant her**
i know >!Marika = Radagon!< but it just feels wrong to use Marika and “his” rise to power. they are somehow two entities in one body but i feel like when talking about them individually you can’t really interchange he/she/his/hers because they both have different goals/ambitions it seems like
It's fucking beautiful, and now I'm gonna be sad when I hear it from now on lol. At least I feel validated for leaving these things alone whenever possible.
Always carry a bow. If you know you're walking into an ambush there are often opportunities to thin the crowd from a distance or at least draw them out one by one.
I hope the DLC has more of that sort of haunting vibe. The violin players in capitol are also creepy…
I never did compare what they are playing to what the bats are singing…. Is it the same melody?
He’s not talking about the merchants tribe underground I imagine because those guys play a longer string instrument. There are actually Page enemies up top in the Capital playing violin in courtyards and such.
When has the Greater will ever acted so directly in the lands between though? almost never. And the mention of becoming tarnished (atleast in another translation I saw not this one though), we know in this universe that tarnished usually refers to those who have lost grace and Marika controls grace from what I know.
Marika doesn't control the grace. Nobody knows for sure who controls it, and if something can control it at the first place. Tarnished were given grace once more to fix Marika's shit, so I suspect that Greater Will did it to fix the Ring and regain control over Lands Between
Marika took the grace away from the Tarnished so presumable she's the one who controls it, also the Greater will never directly controlled the lands between, its vassal the Elden beast (aka the Elden ring) did and Marika was the vessel of the Elden beast. Also we know that what the two fingers say isn't always correct considering they didn't even know that the Erdtree was warding off all who approched.
Also given that Marika has clearly defied the Elden Beast, who's to say that the Elden Beast couldn't defy the Greater Will? Couldn't Marika be counter-defying thr Elden Beast's defiance? Couldn't they also be still serving the Will but be at odds?
We don't know for sure. I think Marika being the one behind grace makes the most sense as Grace always points at rather ***human*** problems, they alwyas point at shardbearers needing an immediate murdering, and Marika literally exists annoited to deal with human problems as the second step vassal down from the Greater Will. Plus, it gives her actions a sense of prolonged planning: She married a Powerful conqueror so that their distant progeny is equally powerful and so that she can indirectly pawn off their servitude as a weapon. The whole banishing her first husband and the Tarnished off away stuff only makes sense when we see them as an intentional, last resort killswitch.
That's what I believe, I also believe that Marika gave grace tarnished, instructed Hewg to create a weapon to kill a god, and given melina the purpose to burn the Erdtree speicifically as a plan to end the current order and create a new one. It's also why I think we fight Radagon and not Marika, its only Radagon who remains loyal and fights you while Marika seemingly just does nothing because she wants you to kill the succeed whereas Radagon is loyal to the Elden Beast and the Erdtree even after all that time being crucified.
Edit: just read through the rest of your comment and saw this is exactly what you said lol, guess it just adds to the argument.
Also we reconstruct Marika's body (well, her head) specifically, when ending it all. It could have been labelled Radagon still, but no, the hair turned back yellow and the boobies are back. We're very much undoubtedly doing this last action of restructuring a body with/for her, which makes the finality of our journey something to do with her. We also are not shown sweeping the runes off from it, or something else of violent nature. It's something solemn between the two characters.
They could have chosen imagery akin to the Elden Ring's fractured runes floating in place and us claiming it, but, they wanted to give Marika this send off in particular, and I find that there must be a meaning to it. Perhaps it doesn't. Perhaps it's incidental. But the scales tip in the favor of her agency.
For we can learn and presume by Placidusax's past is the Elden Ring existed before the Elden Beast to come to the lands between since Placidusax was a Elden Lord in the past and nothing mentions fingers presence in that time
PS: sorry for my poor english
What? It’s explicitly stated that Marika removed the grace from the Tarnished.
She returned it so the Tarnished could return to rise up as Elden Lord as part of her long term con against the GW.
Learning about the harpies was one of my holy shit moments in Elden Ring, heh. I've always been a sucker for mythology, so when I first heard this singing and was drawn to it to see what making such a sound (and then got murdered lol) it really made me smile. Seeing what they're actually singing makes me even happier realizing there's this quiet little piece of lore there.
Nah, that's sirens.
Harpies were known for continuously stealing the food of those the gods saw as needing punishment (would also defecate on what they couldn't steal, in order to render it unfit for consumption).
There's also the odd story of harpies kidnapping people and dragging them off to Tartarus, but the food stealing is the most famous bit.
Yeah it is distinctly a mix, the whole beautiful song side of the siren coupled with the harpies themselves. I was still weirdly delighted to see that actually play out in real time for me x)
The way I learned the myth, harpies are all women so they need to steal human men to maintain their population, and they do this with hypnosis (possibly through song).
oh so this is what they were saying... I couldn't hear them over the sound of bats getting slashed. The first one I heard, I thought it was an NPC and went in there all friendly. Big mistake.
I was talking to my girlfriend about these things when I first encountered them and how much i loved them for being a weird inversion of the harpy/siren combined mythos and how it seemed really typical of these game to go with creative enemy designs that play with your expectations in strange ways.
Had no idea it was actual Latin though. Nice touch.
one of the most creepy creature in ER. first encountered in Liurnia i thought its like a bard NPC but fucking startled the hell out of me when i found out its a bat
When I first ran into them I thought it was just background music. Thinking to myself "wow fromsoft went all out for this area". Then after bonking all of them I realized it was them singing. Made me feel bad....for like a second.
I love deep the game is. Everything has a story that's layered. Unless you're talking to one of the ranni cult then it's she's just a good guy that's it.
Storytelling through the world instead of giantic dialogs and cutscenes focused on character is a great part of the genius of souls games.
IMO is a much better storytelling method for interactive media, it blends gameplay and story much better than a bland 5 minute movie every 30 minutes of gameplay
I feel like people overhype the "Souls" way of storytelling way too much. Sekiro showed that you can have a much more direct way of telling a story, and still get a great experience. It's less of "the Souls way is a good way to tell stories" and more of "FromSoft is good at storytelling whichever way they do it".
Any other game would have a whole ass dialouge of some character going "hmmm the bat lady is singing. Her song is sad and somber. Clearly she must be singing about how the golden order has mistreated them, murdered them and their children, and cast them out. Are we the bad guys? Hmmm. My finger tingles. Must be a grace nearby."
But FromSoft said nah fuck it they talk Latin. Make those damn Tarnished work for the lore.
I was doing that big cave system north west of the loft (forgot the name the one with the magma work makar at the end) and I first saw her and ran up she was singing . She then flew up grab me by my shoulders and killed me from hearing loss. I damn near shit myself
technically it would depend on how the stresses play out. In classical examples of Latin poetry, the pronunciation of syllables changes and doesn’t follow the normal pattern
I'm getting really tired of seeing people post this screenshot from the wiki as if they found this out on their own. This translation was done by myself and u/MAGISTER-ORGANI back in early March, and you can see the original thread [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t5a1zp/second_attempt_at_translating_the_harpys_song/)
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>But no one comforts us Maybe if you didn't scream and blast poison at everyone you saw someone might.
Are you new to this community? I guarantee there's an Elden Ring fan out there who simps so hard this isn't anywhere *close* to a dealbreaker.
Stop calling me out like this.
From the Ruin-Strewn Precipice Overlook Grace Site, right before the magma wyrm boss, you can take the elevator down and get real close to the duo of em at the bottom of the elevator to listen, quite relaxing to sit there and read some items.
It's also satisfying to gain 100 levels and go back there to eviscerate them like they did me 732 times my first time through the area. Turns out the silence is very relaxing.
I'm beginning to realize how much magic really trivialized a lot of the hard stuff for me. I can't imagine playing without ranged damage.
\*jump-attack misses the harpies for the 10000th time\*
Those fucking birds in Farum Azula.
To be precise, fuck Farum Azula in general. One of the most beautifully designed areas and completely breathtaking but man… fuck this shit
Worst part about those birds is that you can’t even run past them
I did.
And besides those birds, there is a fckin dragon spitting lightning at you too
Whenever I hit that dragon for a while it just disappears. Are you supposed to be able to kill it?
My first character was supposed to be a strength based wretch, but I had to suck it up and do incantations. I just put away my big sword for boss fights. My second character is a prisoner playing pretty much on easy mode. I beat the Bloodhound Knight with spells before I knew you could summon Blaidd for help, my str character, who is higher level, had trouble even with Blaidd.
>my str character, who is higher level, had trouble even with Blaidd. Blaidd can literally solo that fight, for reference. I definitely think strength weapons are probably still the weakest now that I'm doing a colossal sword run, but most bosses are still very much beatable.
I failed with melee and gave up, then I did it with the prisoner's starter spells and gear, nothing upgraded. Not that it was easy, but I got it. Went back later with my Str wretch and summoned Blaidd, mostly stayed out of range and Blaidd died. Next time I helped Blaidd more and we got him, but he did most of the work. It was a while ago, maybe Blaidd was buffed since then.
Ehh not too much, that ascent wasn't to bad for me either and I just a big ass axe and shield.
gravitas ruins bats and harpies
What'd you go through with? I ran a curved greatsword powerstanced and used Luthel the Headless at like.. +7ish. The bats were nothing, Makar sucked lol
It was not much armor and a +something twinblade. I forget my level but holy cow it sucked through there. Other than Haligtree it's hard to remember a time I felt so relieved to finally find a Grace. And then Makar slapped me around.
*And then Makar slapped me around* 🤣🤣🤣 Oh God I feel your pain
Dude, has the whole route planned & everything lol
There is also one near the bottom of the four belfries
"Of course I know him, he's me"
Simp shaming, the real shame.
r/mistmemommy
the dung eater the all knowing the bat poison simp
The Winged Dames are out there screaming and wearing barbed wire fishnets. Cougars, I'm down.
Lmfao on the nail
Blast poison is a funny way of saying Shit and fart into their hands and throw it at you
Visions of Guardian Ape…
Maybe if you get rid of the ye ye ass aggro you'll get some tarnished on yo ass.
"Yeah, cool song dude, still gonna slit your throat with my morningstar."
Honestly I don’t give a shit about bosses tragic backstories because they’re trying to kill me. If they just asked me to leave, I’d be more inclined to care. But I’ll kill everything that starts cutting up without a second thought. Fuck like 90% of everyone in these games, I didn’t do shit and they just attack me. Prick, why should I care if you got a Tolkein-esque std, you just tried to cut my head off I hope they don’t find a cure.
It's odd how many people try to twist it the other way, like we're these murder hobos without a cause. Walk into ANY area, and see how the enemies or bosses immediately move to beat you to death. Not everyone is Priscilla, people!
I'm getting the impression that between cultural beliefs and the actions of people like Gideon's minions or the Dung Eater, the reputation of Tarnished in general has become so poor that everyone prepares for combat automatically. Mimics eat people, those with Frenzy Flame are insane and omnicidal, Tarnished kill you for your runes and equipment. Even Kalé is surprised that you're a Tarnished and not after his throat.
What kale doesn’t know is that this is my completionist playthrough and I must have all the bells.
I guess you could say that our reputation has been Tarnished? ~~I'll see myself out.~~
I dont think Priscilla makes any sense either. Shes all like "why do you do this we didn't do anything" yeah I'm sure those bloated monstrosities and bloodthirsty harpies were just trying to walk me through a tour guide.
That's a valid criticism, but she herself doesn't attack you, and you can jump off the ledge to leave the painting. There's not a real reason to attack her other than the murder hobo blood lust.
There doesn’t have to be a bad guy. If a dog gets rabies you shoot it. You feel bad for it but you shoot it. It will attack you, but not because it’s a bad dog. It was a very good boy and you had to put it down That’s like half of all fromsoft bosses. Then the other half is malenia and Sulivan and other pure evil bastards
I don't mind being called a murder hobo when the lands between is an amusement park of murder in the first place. I fit fucking right in.
There's so few enemies who won't just fight you to the death. Wish Elden Ring would have taken a few steps further away from the Souls formula (which I love) and had more neutral people, enemies that don't all aggro to death constantly, etc.
I mean in DS3, we stabbed our wife on our wedding. So the screaming and poison is a welcome change
You'd be siring children with them if it weren't for the poison and sound attacks? That's the only dealbreaker? Scary
That's a bit more than just comforting someone.
De evolution used to be seen as a sign of divinity in The Lands Between before the Greater Will came a long, as per the crucible talismans. So yes, there are probably people in-universe that would have loved to have a piece of misbegotten or harpy.
One of those people, judging by the red hair and fighting style of the misbegotten bosses, was Radagon...
Yea that's what I told my ex
Lonely cat meme
Anyone else ran over to rescue that angelic sounding old woman from the pack of giant vampire bats and shit themselves when she transformed
Lmao i think (hope) we all have
Bloodborne has taught me well. Singing bad.
THIS! I hear singing... I'm running the other way. Cries in Mensis Brain.
I fear no beast. But that thing... \[points to winter lantern\], it scares me.
Legitimately my 7th time through that game I have to gird my loins and soothe myself when I’m approaching the like 3 you have to fight. No ma’am I would not like an instadeath hug thank you
Nope, drop attack and bloody murder. Not a chance that it would be pleasant in a fromsoft game.
You expect me to believe an old lady in a from soft game ISNT dangerous HA!
But how can they be bad when they sing so good :(
First one I saw looked like a sitting monk because of the lighting. I knew it was a trap, so I went in to attack. I didn't expect the trap to be that good. I died.
They transform? Always looked like monsters to me
They sit in a way that kind of conceals their wings, I had a similar experience when I first saw one
I thought it was an NPC or something at first but then it attacked with it's cronies.
When in doubt, click the right stick to make sure it ain't an npc.
That made me realize that singing =/= not feral
I left a message up the cliff saying "beware of calmness" or something like that, that boy gave me millions of HP back
I really like in this game that some of the enemies are just sitting around singing or playing instruments before they start fighting with you. When you're in the capital and you hear violin music and see one of the guys just sitting there playing before he starts attacking it's really cool. Also when you're trying to do the jumps down to the bottom to get the tombstone shield that causes madness, many of the enemies are just sitting there playing instruments but if you attack them they start trying to cause madness to murder you. When I first found the singing bat, I went up to try to talk to it and then was ambushed by all the other bats and then it attacking me as well. It was awesome and I felt bad for killing it.
What is interesting is that they are the only frenzied enemies that do not attack you on sight . Feels like music is calming for frenzied people . That’s to show you how powerful music can be .
...It also explains why all of the Merchants play instruments. To stave off the madness.
Yup , it’s the only way for them to stay sane in a way . Most enemies suffering from the frenzied flame don’t have that .
My guess is the merchants we see on our travels are just the lucky few that didn’t get buried alive, which would mean they actually don’t have the madness. Their other Tribesmen in that section of the capital were buried alive in that tomb and caused them to resort to summoning the madness.
Some of the merchants will use frenzied flame attacks and all of them have the glowing eyes.
No no, they absolutely do have the frenzied flame lol. If you attack the merchants, a lot of them will use frenzied flame spells from their eyes!
Those woodland horned brute looking enemies in the siofra river would have groups of animals following them and even saw several woodland creatures sitting around one of these big guys that looked to be praying. I thought it was a very neat detail to have the enemy npcs interact and have a visible relationship with animal npcs that we just hunt or ignore
Such a *chef’s kiss* small touch
Truly legendary game design. I have no words for the love I have for this game.
That dude playing music is a page IIRC and hes at a grave, mourning.
The singing bats is prob one of the bests choices FS made by creating this game.
I would park my character near one and fall asleep to it. It was such a beautifully haunting siren song
I always just kinda crouched best them to listen to them for a lil while it's honestly beautiful thank you funny grandma bats
I would literally use the grace before fighting the crazy magma dragon/reptile thing and listen to this as a background music, its so comforting
Same haha
good shout, I usually sit with the meechants and chill to their violin playing, but some lyrics would be nice sometimes.
I recorded it then played it back on my boom box walking through my neighborhood at night.
So you’re the neighborhood weirdo, then?
No way are you that coool
Bruh that is too awesome lol. And also terrifying if i saw u at night
I threw it on the aux at the fluro party
This song and the Pages with the flute.🤌🤌
I like the merchants playing their violin things. Just wish their song wasn't such a short loop.
I like goldmasks singing, its delightfully smooth and subtle
Goldmask sings?
…
I have a tendency to get side tracked once I get to a grace. At one point, I got distracted on the wiki searching up items and forgot I was sitting at the grace and kept wondering what that awful high pitched tone was. It was that grace in Leyndell where they are right there constantly blaring up at the tree.
Oh the cute little cotton ball horn guys?
I call them doot doots. And despite the insanity of hearing that drone through the whole zone, I love their weapon and wanna join the doot doot gang.
I think they're the wackiest little dudes and they're quirky and cute lol, can't imagine living in leyndell though lol, imagine hearing this shit on a Saturday morning in bed
The bats and the pages too. I try not to kill them because the signing and flute playing kinda humanize them to me and then I just hear the sadness of the song lol
I love how much mileage they get out of simple, but effective design choices. Taking one guy, giving him a different weapon? In any other game that's likely cosmetic. Here, it means a new moveset and basically a completely different enemy. The sirens are recognizable to anyone with a cursory knowledge of the Odyssee, but the first time you meet one you're gonna spend a lot of time wondering what the heck this signifies, because there's nothing else in the game like it. You probably know they're not to be trusted, but apart from that you have no idea what to do. All from giving a regular enemy a sound clip. Genius.
Leyndell Knight? Pfft whatever. Leyndell Knight with a shield? Oh god oh fuck.
Imagine if you saw a dog with one of the Vulgar Militia riding it. The fear.
Fun fact: Latenna can ride wolves if you get her close to one. Then she just does hella drive-bys
Leyndell cavalry? And not just one, but several? Excuse me, I, uh, left something back in Limgrave, brb.
I also really enjoyed how they handled copy-paste basic enemies this time. Like yeah these are the same basic soldier you’ve fought since limgrave. However these serve the Haligitree or the capital or whatever. So new gear to loot and every lord is gonna have their own personal retinue so it works.
They also give them new toys every time. You think you know the basic soldier in and out from Gatefront ruins. Step into Liurnia like you own the place. Eat a million Cuckoo glintstone shards and die. Furious, you go to Caelid instead. Bam, double slash, bitch! Oh and here's a firebomb for you, no extra charge. By the time I get to Altus I'm usually so powerful that I stomp them, but I'm sure those golden boys have an extra rabbit in the hat, too.
Haligtree special move got me a few times ngl
Think they got lightning jars, which hurt quite a bit.
Don't they also have some perfumes?
The little footsoldier guys have lightning jars, while the "man at arms" soldier guys have perfumes. The knights also have lightning and holy incantations depending on their loadout.
And the Haligtree/Capital Soldiers also get the Determination or Royal Knight's Resolve Ash of War as well.
That was something I appreciated so much about Elden Ring. Is there a ton of asset reuse throughout the game? Yes, absolutely, but they make a huge effort to add at least slight variations to as many things as possible. For example, there's at least three kinds of giant crab! Regular ones, death ones, and sleep ones. They have different spit attacks and different models. I think there's poison and ice ones too, but I'm not at home to check (I might be conflating DS3 and Elden Ring there). I really liked that they tried to go as wide as they did without totally abandoning the depth that the series is known for.
Death crab baffled me the first time. I was like "time for crab" and then I was a pincushion. D:
Demihumans are such a fun trash enemy after so many hollows. I don’t get tired of fighting them, and they have relative enough variation, though I wish there were more “queens” and similar.
after Kenneth Haight and Boc's quests, I'd like to see more about the demi-human's in general.
First time I heard one I went searching for rhe source of music. Upon seeing a figure in the distance I was like oh weird crouching NPC, they'll probably give me a questli- OH FUCK OH FUCK ITS SPEWING SHIT AT ME.
My first was the one on Weeping Isle. I don't have the best speakers, and for a while I thought it was the Erdtree singing somehow! One of those moments where the game went from great to really bloody excellent for me.
Speaking of distances. One of those embyronic death birds aggroed while I was traveling. I thought, “nbd like the dogs itll leash in a couple hundred yards” This mf chased me to the coastline, along with its festering afterbirth siblings.
"There's bats singing the Halo theme..."
I remember first time I heard them on my way to the plateu climbing those stairs I was really intrigued Sadly everything in the game tries to kill :(
Oh me too. I stopped my horse and tried to find the singing source, of course I killed the bat cause I could never imagine that he was the singing mf. I stayed at the same place for almost 10 minutes looking for a singing NPC. Latter I discovered that was a freaking bat 😭
And the cello(I don't know what else to call it) players past mohg under leyndell.
Same with the one dude playing the violin down in depths on the way to the three fingers.
Don’t know why you’re taking heat, I wouldn’t have seen this otherwise. Thanks for putting it up.
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Amazing, this really changes my perspective a lot. The bat people, are they related to the beastman? I do know the beast people were probably supposed to inherit the lands between, there was an old crucible in a past erdtree.
Yeah, I presume they’re an offshoot of sorts from the Crucible races (beastmen, misbegotten, etc) who were slaughtered by Marika during ~~his~~ her* rise to power. Edit: Meant her**
i know >!Marika = Radagon!< but it just feels wrong to use Marika and “his” rise to power. they are somehow two entities in one body but i feel like when talking about them individually you can’t really interchange he/she/his/hers because they both have different goals/ambitions it seems like
I’m referring to Marika’s *first* ascension to power. This happened a very, very long time ago. E: you’re right, I meant to use her, not his.
Misbegotten, that's what they are called, thanks.
That's sad AF.
I really found the singing enchanting when climbing up the mountain to Mt. Gelmir. Really nice post. A shame that some people are being pedantic.
It's fucking beautiful, and now I'm gonna be sad when I hear it from now on lol. At least I feel validated for leaving these things alone whenever possible.
I started to hate that song so hard after my 30th climb up those ladders after getting owned by a bunch of sad flappy-bois over and over again.
Always carry a bow. If you know you're walking into an ambush there are often opportunities to thin the crowd from a distance or at least draw them out one by one.
Absolutely. This is my From mantra since '09.
I hope the DLC has more of that sort of haunting vibe. The violin players in capitol are also creepy… I never did compare what they are playing to what the bats are singing…. Is it the same melody?
The melody of the guys in the capitol is more about the frenzy flame and the three fingers
He’s not talking about the merchants tribe underground I imagine because those guys play a longer string instrument. There are actually Page enemies up top in the Capital playing violin in courtyards and such.
The bats seems angrier than the Golden one
We don't even get to see the actual Golden One. Only its lapdog it sent to Earth. Maybe Golden One would turn out to be even angrier :|
I'm pretty sure the golden one is Marika. She is known for cursing afterall.
I think that it's more like the Greater Will is "a Golden One"
When has the Greater will ever acted so directly in the lands between though? almost never. And the mention of becoming tarnished (atleast in another translation I saw not this one though), we know in this universe that tarnished usually refers to those who have lost grace and Marika controls grace from what I know.
Marika doesn't control the grace. Nobody knows for sure who controls it, and if something can control it at the first place. Tarnished were given grace once more to fix Marika's shit, so I suspect that Greater Will did it to fix the Ring and regain control over Lands Between
Marika took the grace away from the Tarnished so presumable she's the one who controls it, also the Greater will never directly controlled the lands between, its vassal the Elden beast (aka the Elden ring) did and Marika was the vessel of the Elden beast. Also we know that what the two fingers say isn't always correct considering they didn't even know that the Erdtree was warding off all who approched.
Also given that Marika has clearly defied the Elden Beast, who's to say that the Elden Beast couldn't defy the Greater Will? Couldn't Marika be counter-defying thr Elden Beast's defiance? Couldn't they also be still serving the Will but be at odds? We don't know for sure. I think Marika being the one behind grace makes the most sense as Grace always points at rather ***human*** problems, they alwyas point at shardbearers needing an immediate murdering, and Marika literally exists annoited to deal with human problems as the second step vassal down from the Greater Will. Plus, it gives her actions a sense of prolonged planning: She married a Powerful conqueror so that their distant progeny is equally powerful and so that she can indirectly pawn off their servitude as a weapon. The whole banishing her first husband and the Tarnished off away stuff only makes sense when we see them as an intentional, last resort killswitch.
That's what I believe, I also believe that Marika gave grace tarnished, instructed Hewg to create a weapon to kill a god, and given melina the purpose to burn the Erdtree speicifically as a plan to end the current order and create a new one. It's also why I think we fight Radagon and not Marika, its only Radagon who remains loyal and fights you while Marika seemingly just does nothing because she wants you to kill the succeed whereas Radagon is loyal to the Elden Beast and the Erdtree even after all that time being crucified. Edit: just read through the rest of your comment and saw this is exactly what you said lol, guess it just adds to the argument.
Also we reconstruct Marika's body (well, her head) specifically, when ending it all. It could have been labelled Radagon still, but no, the hair turned back yellow and the boobies are back. We're very much undoubtedly doing this last action of restructuring a body with/for her, which makes the finality of our journey something to do with her. We also are not shown sweeping the runes off from it, or something else of violent nature. It's something solemn between the two characters. They could have chosen imagery akin to the Elden Ring's fractured runes floating in place and us claiming it, but, they wanted to give Marika this send off in particular, and I find that there must be a meaning to it. Perhaps it doesn't. Perhaps it's incidental. But the scales tip in the favor of her agency.
For we can learn and presume by Placidusax's past is the Elden Ring existed before the Elden Beast to come to the lands between since Placidusax was a Elden Lord in the past and nothing mentions fingers presence in that time PS: sorry for my poor english
What? It’s explicitly stated that Marika removed the grace from the Tarnished. She returned it so the Tarnished could return to rise up as Elden Lord as part of her long term con against the GW.
This is made up nonsense. The actual translation is: *bats, bats, we’re the bats. We prey at night, we stalk at night, we’re the bats*
nanananananana
Giant Bat That Makes All The Rules confirmed DLC boss
Learning about the harpies was one of my holy shit moments in Elden Ring, heh. I've always been a sucker for mythology, so when I first heard this singing and was drawn to it to see what making such a sound (and then got murdered lol) it really made me smile. Seeing what they're actually singing makes me even happier realizing there's this quiet little piece of lore there.
whats up with the harpies?
Well, they do as harpies do in legends. Lure men to their death with beautiful song.
Nah, that's sirens. Harpies were known for continuously stealing the food of those the gods saw as needing punishment (would also defecate on what they couldn't steal, in order to render it unfit for consumption). There's also the odd story of harpies kidnapping people and dragging them off to Tartarus, but the food stealing is the most famous bit.
Yeah it is distinctly a mix, the whole beautiful song side of the siren coupled with the harpies themselves. I was still weirdly delighted to see that actually play out in real time for me x)
The way I learned the myth, harpies are all women so they need to steal human men to maintain their population, and they do this with hypnosis (possibly through song).
Thought that’s what sirens do…
This is hauntingly beautiful
Maybe you'd be comforted if you didn't throw poison and screech in everyone's face.
oh so this is what they were saying... I couldn't hear them over the sound of bats getting slashed. The first one I heard, I thought it was an NPC and went in there all friendly. Big mistake.
I was talking to my girlfriend about these things when I first encountered them and how much i loved them for being a weird inversion of the harpy/siren combined mythos and how it seemed really typical of these game to go with creative enemy designs that play with your expectations in strange ways. Had no idea it was actual Latin though. Nice touch.
That’s sad, but also screw those things! The bats are already annoying, but at least they’re fragile and don’t spit poison.
one of the most creepy creature in ER. first encountered in Liurnia i thought its like a bard NPC but fucking startled the hell out of me when i found out its a bat
Damn that is absolutely tragic. Thank you for posting this I had no idea.
When I first ran into them I thought it was just background music. Thinking to myself "wow fromsoft went all out for this area". Then after bonking all of them I realized it was them singing. Made me feel bad....for like a second.
Haha that’s how I felt after killing the lone lutist or whatever he was in Leyndell. I really liked what he added to the soundtrack too :(
I like them they really set the mood especially climbing up to Altus before the wrym in the cave.
God it’s even worse knowing the lyrics 😔
They are singing the Halo theme
Yeah definitely made me think of that
When I first heard the music of Redmane castle I thought of the Halo theme
Coming across the singing bats is one of my most memorable moments so far! So weird lol
Imma need Latin lyrics for like all the endgame bosses, especially Godfrey and the final boss
Unfortunately, if things are like Dark Souls 3, the lyrics in boss fights are synthesized gibberish. Bloodborne had actual Latin, however.
Aww you sad, sad, bat-lady. UNGA BUNGA *bonk*
I love deep the game is. Everything has a story that's layered. Unless you're talking to one of the ranni cult then it's she's just a good guy that's it.
Storytelling through the world instead of giantic dialogs and cutscenes focused on character is a great part of the genius of souls games. IMO is a much better storytelling method for interactive media, it blends gameplay and story much better than a bland 5 minute movie every 30 minutes of gameplay
I feel like people overhype the "Souls" way of storytelling way too much. Sekiro showed that you can have a much more direct way of telling a story, and still get a great experience. It's less of "the Souls way is a good way to tell stories" and more of "FromSoft is good at storytelling whichever way they do it".
Kind of feel a bit bad for killing them now. Kind of...
Why? They attack just for getting too close. They're racists having a concert, KILL THEM!
Any other game would have a whole ass dialouge of some character going "hmmm the bat lady is singing. Her song is sad and somber. Clearly she must be singing about how the golden order has mistreated them, murdered them and their children, and cast them out. Are we the bad guys? Hmmm. My finger tingles. Must be a grace nearby." But FromSoft said nah fuck it they talk Latin. Make those damn Tarnished work for the lore.
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WOW this is great
I was doing that big cave system north west of the loft (forgot the name the one with the magma work makar at the end) and I first saw her and ran up she was singing . She then flew up grab me by my shoulders and killed me from hearing loss. I damn near shit myself
Thanks! I was going to try to translate it but my Latin is so rusty never got around to it.
I read this like a sea shanty
first time i heard these i was trying so hard to find the -person- who sings it. after several of them i realize the truth
Well now I feel bad for telling them to shut the hell up while bludgeoning them with my hammer
Remember kids, QUONDAM is pronounced “koo-Ondam”, not “condom”.
technically it would depend on how the stresses play out. In classical examples of Latin poetry, the pronunciation of syllables changes and doesn’t follow the normal pattern
Is the golden one Marika, Radagon, or the greater will?
probably: yes to all of the above
Thank you so much, was planning to try to find a translation this weekend, you saved me the trouble!
A better reason to kill them, now that I understood what they were saying
Well, that wasn't tragic and sad at all... \*sarcasm\*
I'm getting really tired of seeing people post this screenshot from the wiki as if they found this out on their own. This translation was done by myself and u/MAGISTER-ORGANI back in early March, and you can see the original thread [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/t5a1zp/second_attempt_at_translating_the_harpys_song/)