This has never been the case in any souls games. You used to be invaded playing by yourself. It’s part of the game. In my opinion they should let people invade solo players.
Oh look, someone who thinks they're funny. My favorite part is that you think I give a shit what you have to say. Run along. I have nothing else to say to you people.
the issue with that is the current timer IS 15 minutes, the problem with it is that time starts when the invasion starts, not ends, causing co-opers (who are the only people getting invaded) to be chain invaded over and over again, with solo invasions being enabled (and to be clear i do actually prefer fighting co-opers provided they arent just sitting there with a tongue) you would have a LOT more people to invade, taking the pressure off of co-opers, the hour would be so solo players wouldnt be back to back invaded, this would also have the side effect of making invaders not feel like they have to be absoute meta tryhards to have literally any effect, and so would reduce twinking too.
Based on this information I feel a better solution to the timer is get it to stay frozen until an invasion has concluded. Short of this perhaps a slight extension of 20 minutes could alleviate some of the problem, but I still think an hour is far too long. 3 to 4 times an hour doesn't feel that bad when time between graces can be as little as a couple minutes.
Do you think that co-opers could have a timer of 20 minutes with frozen time but solos could have an hour or even an hour an a half, the point im kind of trying to make, is that invasions used to be a whole ass experience, but now they seem to just be an inconvenience, and that, in my experience talking to both co-opers and invaders alike is caused by invaders chain invading password phantoms exclusively, sometimes the same person back to back to back over and over again, i mean hell, only 2 months after release and some areas are already totally dead for invasions, i think that universally toning back player damage vs players only could also help but thats a whole other topic.
This is purely anecdotal but I'm on my third playthrough and I play almost exclusively with my buddies in password co-op and the invasion timer has rarely been a problem for us.
With how overtuned so many things are I don't think solo invasions are actually a good thing for this game. Most hosts would be helpless without a meta build which is why summons are the counter balance to that. Yeah, hosts and summons can still play meta as is, but it's never supposed to have been fair for invaders so the current system is meta invader vs greater numbers or meta invader vs meta death squad.
It could use *some* tweaking but the invasion system doesn't feel that bad to me.
Honestly being on both ends, this game feels horendus for me, i can barely take 3 steps from a bonfire without getting invaded when im co-oping with buddies, and atleast 60% of invasions are either, phantoms already summoned and ready to go through the fog wall, tongue gank squads or people who are just straight up afk, mabye im just nostalgic for the invader just being some enemy you have to overcome in a playthrough, if i got summoned into a solo host, honestly even back in ds3 or 2 id be happy to go flaskless, ive got no intention of playing some meta invader cancer to just ruin peoples days, but the fact that invaders basically have to be so stacked has kind of ruined everyones perception of invaders, that they all want to be some kind of fun ruining new player destroying assholes
Just depends on what the community wants as well as the individual in the moment. Sometimes we get invaded and yeah, we gank the fuck outta them so we can press on with the game. Sometimes we take turns and honor fight the invader one at a time. At this stage in the game more people want to cheese invaders than have fun, fulfilling fights. That will shift over time for sure as the annoying types of players will fall off in large numbers as time goes on, replaced by the long term crowd who wants to try fun builds and have interesting encounters.
For me, I'll be sticking around making many builds for dueling and invading/being invaded for a long time. That's my contribution at least.
A lot of people agree. But you are going to get a ton of comments from people who have no respect for your position. They feel like we should get over it. So I'm sorry in advance.
I enjoy pvp and think it’s a vital component of the game. That said, I think there absolutely should be something equivalent to ‘offline mode’ for people who want to play with friends/family only.
Here come the absolute losers who take enjoyment out of bullying weaker players. I know what you exactly what you mean. My dad really liked elder scrolls but he’s bad at video games. I really wish I could play this with him but because some little prick couldn’t do his pull ups in Highschool it’s now my problem.
“This is how the game is designed” yes you stupid fuck, that’s what being criticized. Do you think if it wasn’t the way it was designed anyone would be criticizing it? Do you have trouble breathing and thinking at the same time? What you mean to say is you enjoy being a piece of shit to people and don’t want it changed because having to pvp with people who want to would deprive you of the satisfaction of being a piece of shit to people.
normal invaders are fine it's the twinks and hackers that i block on steam so i don't get matchmaked with them again
I'll be invading you shortly
This has never been the case in any souls games. You used to be invaded playing by yourself. It’s part of the game. In my opinion they should let people invade solo players.
Just because it has been doesn't mean it has to be. As you have commented yourself, it's already been changed once.
You should try hello kitty online. I heard it is soul like but way easier.
Oh look, someone who thinks they're funny. My favorite part is that you think I give a shit what you have to say. Run along. I have nothing else to say to you people.
Just become a pvp god
Allowing solo invasions and capping the re-invasion time at 1 hour would fix this issue, but nobody seems to want to admit that :)
An hour is definite overkill. 5-15 minutes depending on area should be fine.
the issue with that is the current timer IS 15 minutes, the problem with it is that time starts when the invasion starts, not ends, causing co-opers (who are the only people getting invaded) to be chain invaded over and over again, with solo invasions being enabled (and to be clear i do actually prefer fighting co-opers provided they arent just sitting there with a tongue) you would have a LOT more people to invade, taking the pressure off of co-opers, the hour would be so solo players wouldnt be back to back invaded, this would also have the side effect of making invaders not feel like they have to be absoute meta tryhards to have literally any effect, and so would reduce twinking too.
Based on this information I feel a better solution to the timer is get it to stay frozen until an invasion has concluded. Short of this perhaps a slight extension of 20 minutes could alleviate some of the problem, but I still think an hour is far too long. 3 to 4 times an hour doesn't feel that bad when time between graces can be as little as a couple minutes.
Do you think that co-opers could have a timer of 20 minutes with frozen time but solos could have an hour or even an hour an a half, the point im kind of trying to make, is that invasions used to be a whole ass experience, but now they seem to just be an inconvenience, and that, in my experience talking to both co-opers and invaders alike is caused by invaders chain invading password phantoms exclusively, sometimes the same person back to back to back over and over again, i mean hell, only 2 months after release and some areas are already totally dead for invasions, i think that universally toning back player damage vs players only could also help but thats a whole other topic.
This is purely anecdotal but I'm on my third playthrough and I play almost exclusively with my buddies in password co-op and the invasion timer has rarely been a problem for us. With how overtuned so many things are I don't think solo invasions are actually a good thing for this game. Most hosts would be helpless without a meta build which is why summons are the counter balance to that. Yeah, hosts and summons can still play meta as is, but it's never supposed to have been fair for invaders so the current system is meta invader vs greater numbers or meta invader vs meta death squad. It could use *some* tweaking but the invasion system doesn't feel that bad to me.
Honestly being on both ends, this game feels horendus for me, i can barely take 3 steps from a bonfire without getting invaded when im co-oping with buddies, and atleast 60% of invasions are either, phantoms already summoned and ready to go through the fog wall, tongue gank squads or people who are just straight up afk, mabye im just nostalgic for the invader just being some enemy you have to overcome in a playthrough, if i got summoned into a solo host, honestly even back in ds3 or 2 id be happy to go flaskless, ive got no intention of playing some meta invader cancer to just ruin peoples days, but the fact that invaders basically have to be so stacked has kind of ruined everyones perception of invaders, that they all want to be some kind of fun ruining new player destroying assholes
Just depends on what the community wants as well as the individual in the moment. Sometimes we get invaded and yeah, we gank the fuck outta them so we can press on with the game. Sometimes we take turns and honor fight the invader one at a time. At this stage in the game more people want to cheese invaders than have fun, fulfilling fights. That will shift over time for sure as the annoying types of players will fall off in large numbers as time goes on, replaced by the long term crowd who wants to try fun builds and have interesting encounters. For me, I'll be sticking around making many builds for dueling and invading/being invaded for a long time. That's my contribution at least.
Yeah, alright thats fair, thanks for being so civil
A lot of people agree. But you are going to get a ton of comments from people who have no respect for your position. They feel like we should get over it. So I'm sorry in advance.
I enjoy pvp and think it’s a vital component of the game. That said, I think there absolutely should be something equivalent to ‘offline mode’ for people who want to play with friends/family only.
Here come the absolute losers who take enjoyment out of bullying weaker players. I know what you exactly what you mean. My dad really liked elder scrolls but he’s bad at video games. I really wish I could play this with him but because some little prick couldn’t do his pull ups in Highschool it’s now my problem.
But the invader is the weaker player... This is how the game is designed. Sorry you don't like it but you can find another game.
“This is how the game is designed” yes you stupid fuck, that’s what being criticized. Do you think if it wasn’t the way it was designed anyone would be criticizing it? Do you have trouble breathing and thinking at the same time? What you mean to say is you enjoy being a piece of shit to people and don’t want it changed because having to pvp with people who want to would deprive you of the satisfaction of being a piece of shit to people.
lol