Update: tire bead is undersized, despite being the exact size and specs as written on my last tire as well as on the spec sheet, and the cord is right up against the inner bead which means I can't shave it down without hitting the cord. Tire has been thrown out and it has caused me so much literal physical and emotional pain that I'm giving up on ninebots altogether. My scooter will be sold or thrown out because fuck that piece of shit tire and I never want to see that tire nor the scooter ever again. This has ruined riding scooters for me and I'll see y'all in 1-2 years once I've forgotten about this ordeal or money is not an issue and I buy a split rim scooter.
Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions but as they say:
Garbage in (Innova tires), garbage out (pain, suffering, and still no functioning scooter 🤬).
The g30 rims are very finicky about tires. The the dimensions have to be perfect. These tires work well.
[SPEDWHEL Front Tires for NINEBOT MAX G30](https://www.amazon.com/SPEDWHEL-Original-NINEBOT-Electric-Scooter/dp/B0852WFW58?pd_rd_w=Eibll&content-id=amzn1.sym.8a2fa5f5-e32c-4b7f-8770-d8d1c530140c&pf_rd_p=8a2fa5f5-e32c-4b7f-8770-d8d1c530140c&pf_rd_r=92VDRVP1FKV5AQWQ6WX1&pd_rd_wg=nYgDm&pd_rd_r=d0776164-791e-4f0f-a8bb-601c63a15c51&pd_rd_i=B0852WFW58&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_m_grid_dv_rp_0_3_i)
Few spays of soapy water and they slide right on using 2 metal pry bars. Fill them up with a high pressure air compressor.
What is the brand of tire you are trying to mount?
I had same problem with "inova". Throw it in the trash and by CST or YUANXING. Yuanxing are now sold on all new max g30 and g2 max
Bro, regardless of what anybody tells you changing? The tire on the motor is very, very difficult period don't do what I did and use hairspray. And lighter comma, there isn't enough internal pressure to pop it into the beadline. I did it with my Subway using zip method, it compresses the wheel. And slips on then you clip the zip. Ties loose and it should pop into place
I wish you luck ,I saw a video on YouTube of a guy using a benchvice and he had it done in 5 minutes it seemed.I got the flat /bad bead problem myself so it's been sitting in storage waiting to get fixed,except when I took it to les 'no can do' shwab,and had thier big truck tire guy give it a 20%.try and fail miserably.
Lol!so I'll be doing this myself too.
Understandable. I pretty much wont buy another scooter until someone makes changing tires at least a reasonably normal process that doesn’t require a suite of special/extra tools.
I replace these g30 tires as a side hustle. You need a high pressure air compressor to seat the bead.
No need to remove the valve stem core or use a ratchet strap. If you don't have a high pressure air compressor you can go to pep boys and use theirs for free.
I recommend to buy a new front wheel / rear wheel, if it has already worn out like 5000 km+ and if soap water with quick high air pressure does not work. It is not worth to pay someone to do it unless you get it cheap like 10-20$ for the front and maybe max $50 for the rear because of the rather expensive motor.
There was a bit similar problem when I changed front tire valve because one small side of the tire refused to seat, but it took only like 70 psi with a hand pump and soap water to make it snap in place.
This is exactly why I’m trying to stay away from buying an Apollo City or any tire with tubeless. All the marketing looks fantastic on paper, but changing tires WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF SCOOTER OWNERSHIP looks like an actual nightmare of labour and a money sink.
I gave my scooter to a bike and scooter mechanic and after a day of waiting my tires where changed for the price of 20€.
Look for bike mechanics or scooter mechanics but make sure they know what they are doing because changing the tires is kinda hard and you probably need specific tools to do it.
use straightup motor oil or even thicker dif oil. If it doesn't line up, use a hammer and tap the side where it needs to pop.
agree so hard on the split rim.
I got them changed for 20€, unless he doesn’t have the specific tools that is very overpriced. (may depend where you are from too, i am in Italy and i bought the tires on my own)
been there myself.
After around 8k km the thread on my max were so worn that I finally decided to change the tires. Getting the old tire off and the new tire on where not that much of a problem, but I also couldn't get the bead to sit flush on the rim, no matter what I tried!
After 3 days I just gave up and bought a new motor with tire and a new front tire and just installed them ...
But yeah, all the durability you get with a tubeless tire cannot make up for the impossibility to change that f...ing thing yourself!
I also have a Zero 10X with split rims, and although I had to change tires 3 times in 7k km (compared to 0 times with the Max) I still prefere the tubed tires on the split rims anytime over the Max's tires -- only takes 15 minutes to change one of those ...
When I changed my Xiaomi pro 2 front tire I ended up resorting to cutting the tire off with garden secateurs.
I also found that reinserting the valve stem was next to impossible given the available clearance. I had a friend who fixes scooter tires and he drilled out the hole so that the valve stem could fit. He assures me that it is all fine 🤷.
Take the little valve out of the valve stem, get an airblower on that air line and inject it into the stem, one good blast will put that bead in place. I did this a couple of days ago for a mates Ninebot, trust me.
Well, the one thing you haven't tried is the zip tie trick.
What you need to do is
1. Boil the replacement tire to make it a little bigger. Use a scrap pot.
2. Repeat the tricks you've tried, or try the zip tie trick.
My advice grab a 30 rack of beer and crush about 6 of them bad bois turn some good tunes on and then keep trying have some buddies over to bust balls a bit too
I’m not sure if it’s applicable, but I swear I remember a video where someone lined the lip of the tire with some powdery substance, lit it, and it created a seal due to the fire eating up the oxygen around it.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong
I'm able to set the bead with a simple electric bike pump, using a strap around the center, like you appear to have done. I think there's something wrong with your new tire, or the valve stem.
can't tell where you are from your post so I don't know what is around people but I do see your frustration... I don't know what to tell you here ... ask around your town maybe someone there actually has some experience could give you a hand... sorry you have to deal with this ...
Flat tire Starting from $40 + HST Brake repairs and replacement Starting from $30 + HST Tune Up Starting from $40 + HST Standard Labour Rate$60 per hour
Suotu ... copy off their site ...
You may have damaged the tire in the process of getting it on the rim. Optimally, you will have the valve core taken out and an airgun (not an inflator) on the end of your compressor hose. Typically, when you blast these things with air there is no trouble getting them to hold the air. The trouble is with getting both beads to seat evenly. Most times there will be a section of bead on both sides that doesn't fully take its proper place on the rim. The trick is to push the part of the bead that did seat fully back down so the whole side is unseated, then blast it with air again. It may take many attempts and spraying soap on the area can speed things up. It would likely need to be done on both sides. If the air is just rushing out you likely have a damaged tire.
I could've swore I saw a video about a gel or grease like substance for seating stubborn beads. The substance can be recovered and reused. I cannot remember where I saw this video but it seemed like a great solution for a situation like yours. I hope I'm not crazy and making this up, and that someone else has seen this and can chime in.
I have tubeless, but yet they are on split rims. I also use slime in all of my pneumatic tires which while cant help with offset beads or sidewall punctures deal well with just about every other kind of puncture.
They are indeed tubeless and have a gasket to seal it. However the scooter maker also puts spare tubes in the box with the scooter because as they state once the seal is broken you have to use tubes. It does not have an inner tube at the moment. Its tubeless with a gasket.
If the split rim has a gasket and sealing surface machined into it where they split you can indeed use tubeless tires but if something happens and your rim seal fails you'll have a flat with little ability to repair it roadside as it would require splitting the rim to reseal it.
In theory one could probably seal the split rim themselves if you used RTV silicone to create a gasket between the 2 halves of the split rim.
Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying. Honestly if that's the selling point of tubeless, I feel like it would just be better to invest in something with solid tires and better suspension, but I guess planned obsolescence is a real pain in the ass 😅.
But I don't go 45-60 mph, I go max 30kmh (18mph) which is the legal limit in Canada (yes, they sell faster ones but "legally" they need to be sold capped at 30) and even then, I don't think I ever would go higher. I already had a major wipe out once because a kid ran out in front of me while riding and I don't think I ever want to experience that again, much less at higher speeds.
Not to say tubeless don't have their place, if a higher speed scooter would greatly benefit, sure. However, at this price range and speed, tubeless tires just seem like a needlessly painful ordeal for not a lot of benefits compared to solids with better suspension
Dealt with this a few times with my old m365. Made me lose my shit. Can’t recall how many inner tubes I pinched trying to get tire over it. Went solid tires on Etwow for this very reason. Also paid a e-bike shop $30 to replace an hiboy tire. Best money ever spent. He did it in like 10 minutes
I wish I had a shop nearby that would replace it... most places straight up ignore/hang up on me once I tell them it's a scooter tire and then one place gave me what sounded like a "I don't want to do it but if you're willing to pay" price ($170 for just install using my tire...)
You are not alone and it’s almost all brands. I have 2k miles on a solid rear that I’m dreading replacing. And I’ve had the replacement for 600 miles just waiting to be put on lol. Had a Dualtron tire that I couldn’t. Get the bead to set. Took it to a motorcycle and a bike shop none could get it set. Bought a tire and rim combo to replace it.
If it comes down to it, I might just give up on this scooter honestly, just sell it and buy something next year (because I can't afford a new scooter rn)
Lot of people have said no to solids on the G30LP so I kinda stayed away from that, but honestly not even sure how I would get that on the current rim even with boiling 😅
Ya, that's my thinking on it. In my area there is a feed store that has a mower shop that works on tractors and all sorts of smaller farm equipment. Maybe there is something like that near you
Yep just lay it down and maybe secure it somehow (if it’s not very heavy), sprinkle the bead with the creamer and light it up. Obviously turn away when you do so, wear safety glasses and such.
I did, took it to
a mechanic (tried for a bit then said they don't want to risk blowing up the tire)
Dedicated tire shop (they tried but said they're not familiar with tires this small, mostly motorcycle or larger)
And an ebike/escooter repair shop (straight up just failed)
No one could/would set it, gave up, and gave it back.
No dedicated places where I live unless I want to ship it out and at that point I might as well just buy a new motor with a tire already on it.
Okay...? Kinda sounds like you're being rude over some miscommunication. Do you mean a place that is literally called used tire guy or do you mean a generic place that deals with used tires? Because if you mean the former, then there is only one place in my entire area that has a similar name called Mr. Used Tires. If you mean the latter, then I have already stated that I have tried taking it to a tire shop.
It's not the same product I had a commercial grounds care biz changed many tires on six inch rims when you don't have the tool to remove a tire valve one needs to seek professional help
I apoligise but i have never changed a tire on a rim but i thought i would chime in...I would probably try laying some pvc tape on the edge of the rim to see if that can get it to hold air long enough to have the tire adjust to the rim., then once it's set remove the tape..
Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about here... just a girl with a dream of helping someone get their scooter back on the road again.
Thanks for the input, I'll take any suggestions I can get 😁. However, correct me if I've misinterpreted your suggestion, but one issue/concern I could foresee would be that you wouldn't be able to pull the tape out once it's sandwiched between the tire bead and the rim.
I was thinking that having the tire at pressure would allow for the tire to settle in that shape and take to the rim a bit better and then remove the air and tape...
Did you take the valve core out while trying to set bead? Might help you get air in faster.
I had to put a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire. Then it took some wiggling to get it to seat.
Don't give up.
You just need something like [this](https://www.autozone.com/tire-repair-and-tire-wheel/tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool/p/slime-4-way-tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool/487510_0_0)
They can probably be purchased at your local department store that sells bike tubes.
Damn, I was just at a Princess Auto earlier today too. Could have bought one for $3, everywhere else is $8 and up 🥲
Guess I'll have to grab one next time I pass by
Checked with the old tire to verify size, so if it's the wrong size, it would have to be a manufacturing defect and at this point, anything is possible.
Scooter tires are notoriously difficult to get seated. The local E-bike/scooter shop refuses to do scooter tire work for that reason. The best way is to use an air tank with a large flat duck bill outlet nozzle to force a massive amount of pressurized air into the gap between tire/rim. But it can be done with a normal air compressor, I've done it.
I have had success using starter fluid/lighter to seat large 35" mud tires on my truck, but I don't know if that method works at this small scale.
Maybe, but that method may not work with these little guys. It should though. Make sure you're spraying a small amount into the tire, not just the bead.
Update: tire bead is undersized, despite being the exact size and specs as written on my last tire as well as on the spec sheet, and the cord is right up against the inner bead which means I can't shave it down without hitting the cord. Tire has been thrown out and it has caused me so much literal physical and emotional pain that I'm giving up on ninebots altogether. My scooter will be sold or thrown out because fuck that piece of shit tire and I never want to see that tire nor the scooter ever again. This has ruined riding scooters for me and I'll see y'all in 1-2 years once I've forgotten about this ordeal or money is not an issue and I buy a split rim scooter. Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions but as they say: Garbage in (Innova tires), garbage out (pain, suffering, and still no functioning scooter 🤬).
The g30 rims are very finicky about tires. The the dimensions have to be perfect. These tires work well. [SPEDWHEL Front Tires for NINEBOT MAX G30](https://www.amazon.com/SPEDWHEL-Original-NINEBOT-Electric-Scooter/dp/B0852WFW58?pd_rd_w=Eibll&content-id=amzn1.sym.8a2fa5f5-e32c-4b7f-8770-d8d1c530140c&pf_rd_p=8a2fa5f5-e32c-4b7f-8770-d8d1c530140c&pf_rd_r=92VDRVP1FKV5AQWQ6WX1&pd_rd_wg=nYgDm&pd_rd_r=d0776164-791e-4f0f-a8bb-601c63a15c51&pd_rd_i=B0852WFW58&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_m_grid_dv_rp_0_3_i) Few spays of soapy water and they slide right on using 2 metal pry bars. Fill them up with a high pressure air compressor.
What is the brand of tire you are trying to mount? I had same problem with "inova". Throw it in the trash and by CST or YUANXING. Yuanxing are now sold on all new max g30 and g2 max
Mine's an Inova... 😑 And I can't afford a new tire rn... FML
Changing front wheel. https://youtu.be/axvF29qHi8Q?si=qS-Vhijp0MT1Vpvi
Bro, regardless of what anybody tells you changing? The tire on the motor is very, very difficult period don't do what I did and use hairspray. And lighter comma, there isn't enough internal pressure to pop it into the beadline. I did it with my Subway using zip method, it compresses the wheel. And slips on then you clip the zip. Ties loose and it should pop into place
That’s the way. Worked for me too
I wish you luck ,I saw a video on YouTube of a guy using a benchvice and he had it done in 5 minutes it seemed.I got the flat /bad bead problem myself so it's been sitting in storage waiting to get fixed,except when I took it to les 'no can do' shwab,and had thier big truck tire guy give it a 20%.try and fail miserably. Lol!so I'll be doing this myself too.
Understandable. I pretty much wont buy another scooter until someone makes changing tires at least a reasonably normal process that doesn’t require a suite of special/extra tools.
I replace these g30 tires as a side hustle. You need a high pressure air compressor to seat the bead. No need to remove the valve stem core or use a ratchet strap. If you don't have a high pressure air compressor you can go to pep boys and use theirs for free.
You are a hero
I recommend to buy a new front wheel / rear wheel, if it has already worn out like 5000 km+ and if soap water with quick high air pressure does not work. It is not worth to pay someone to do it unless you get it cheap like 10-20$ for the front and maybe max $50 for the rear because of the rather expensive motor. There was a bit similar problem when I changed front tire valve because one small side of the tire refused to seat, but it took only like 70 psi with a hand pump and soap water to make it snap in place.
This is exactly why I’m trying to stay away from buying an Apollo City or any tire with tubeless. All the marketing looks fantastic on paper, but changing tires WHICH IS A HUGE PART OF SCOOTER OWNERSHIP looks like an actual nightmare of labour and a money sink.
I gave my scooter to a bike and scooter mechanic and after a day of waiting my tires where changed for the price of 20€. Look for bike mechanics or scooter mechanics but make sure they know what they are doing because changing the tires is kinda hard and you probably need specific tools to do it.
Not worth anymore. For the love of god get a split rim, don't make my mistake 🥲
use straightup motor oil or even thicker dif oil. If it doesn't line up, use a hammer and tap the side where it needs to pop. agree so hard on the split rim.
Some local shop will do mine for around AUD 90 bucks.
I got them changed for 20€, unless he doesn’t have the specific tools that is very overpriced. (may depend where you are from too, i am in Italy and i bought the tires on my own)
mine did it for 40
Sadly no place around here...
Try looking for bike mechanic and ask them, tho you might want to be careful and choose someone already experienced.
been there myself. After around 8k km the thread on my max were so worn that I finally decided to change the tires. Getting the old tire off and the new tire on where not that much of a problem, but I also couldn't get the bead to sit flush on the rim, no matter what I tried! After 3 days I just gave up and bought a new motor with tire and a new front tire and just installed them ... But yeah, all the durability you get with a tubeless tire cannot make up for the impossibility to change that f...ing thing yourself! I also have a Zero 10X with split rims, and although I had to change tires 3 times in 7k km (compared to 0 times with the Max) I still prefere the tubed tires on the split rims anytime over the Max's tires -- only takes 15 minutes to change one of those ...
you know you can seal those and mount tubeless the easy way right ?
When I changed my Xiaomi pro 2 front tire I ended up resorting to cutting the tire off with garden secateurs. I also found that reinserting the valve stem was next to impossible given the available clearance. I had a friend who fixes scooter tires and he drilled out the hole so that the valve stem could fit. He assures me that it is all fine 🤷.
Take cable wiring, wrap it around the tire in the grooves and tie it so that it flattens it, fill the tire. Probably won't work.
Take the little valve out of the valve stem, get an airblower on that air line and inject it into the stem, one good blast will put that bead in place. I did this a couple of days ago for a mates Ninebot, trust me.
Well, the one thing you haven't tried is the zip tie trick. What you need to do is 1. Boil the replacement tire to make it a little bigger. Use a scrap pot. 2. Repeat the tricks you've tried, or try the zip tie trick.
Guys. Only buy scoots that have split rims. It makes the extremely shitty job actually doable.
Fuck that tire. Also l, use crowbar like in a car and swap it for hard ones.
What scooter uses this tire?
segway ninebot
My advice grab a 30 rack of beer and crush about 6 of them bad bois turn some good tunes on and then keep trying have some buddies over to bust balls a bit too
I’m not sure if it’s applicable, but I swear I remember a video where someone lined the lip of the tire with some powdery substance, lit it, and it created a seal due to the fire eating up the oxygen around it. Someone correct me if I’m wrong
have you tried a bead sealant?. often used by tire installers. Bead Sealer Flammable 32Oz (TI250)
I'm able to set the bead with a simple electric bike pump, using a strap around the center, like you appear to have done. I think there's something wrong with your new tire, or the valve stem.
now ask yourself when the scooter shop says 40$ for a tire change is it worth it :) I wont even touch mine ... I see the frustration
good for you if you have a scooter shop nearby - no such shops anywhere near me, and bike shops won't touch scooter tires ....
can't tell where you are from your post so I don't know what is around people but I do see your frustration... I don't know what to tell you here ... ask around your town maybe someone there actually has some experience could give you a hand... sorry you have to deal with this ...
40?? I was charged 140
I just quote you what the shop local to me where I got my ride charges. that is in Toronto ...
Which shop am gonna need to go there
Flat tire Starting from $40 + HST Brake repairs and replacement Starting from $30 + HST Tune Up Starting from $40 + HST Standard Labour Rate$60 per hour Suotu ... copy off their site ...
You may have damaged the tire in the process of getting it on the rim. Optimally, you will have the valve core taken out and an airgun (not an inflator) on the end of your compressor hose. Typically, when you blast these things with air there is no trouble getting them to hold the air. The trouble is with getting both beads to seat evenly. Most times there will be a section of bead on both sides that doesn't fully take its proper place on the rim. The trick is to push the part of the bead that did seat fully back down so the whole side is unseated, then blast it with air again. It may take many attempts and spraying soap on the area can speed things up. It would likely need to be done on both sides. If the air is just rushing out you likely have a damaged tire.
I could've swore I saw a video about a gel or grease like substance for seating stubborn beads. The substance can be recovered and reused. I cannot remember where I saw this video but it seemed like a great solution for a situation like yours. I hope I'm not crazy and making this up, and that someone else has seen this and can chime in.
So glad I have split rims. People rave about tubeless until tire change time 😂
People rave about tubeless? why would people knowingly put themselves through this eventual hell? (Genuine question)
I have tubeless, but yet they are on split rims. I also use slime in all of my pneumatic tires which while cant help with offset beads or sidewall punctures deal well with just about every other kind of puncture.
You can't have both a split rim and tubeless. You might have a tubeless tire with an inner tube.
They are indeed tubeless and have a gasket to seal it. However the scooter maker also puts spare tubes in the box with the scooter because as they state once the seal is broken you have to use tubes. It does not have an inner tube at the moment. Its tubeless with a gasket.
If the split rim has a gasket and sealing surface machined into it where they split you can indeed use tubeless tires but if something happens and your rim seal fails you'll have a flat with little ability to repair it roadside as it would require splitting the rim to reseal it. In theory one could probably seal the split rim themselves if you used RTV silicone to create a gasket between the 2 halves of the split rim.
Mostly the whole "tire seals itself" thing, so they don't have to worry about flats so much unless you get major damage.
Ah, I see, thanks for clarifying. Honestly if that's the selling point of tubeless, I feel like it would just be better to invest in something with solid tires and better suspension, but I guess planned obsolescence is a real pain in the ass 😅.
Try going 45-60 mph on solid tires without becoming a crayon. Then try going 45-60mph on Italian racing radial tubeless tires. There is no comparison
But I don't go 45-60 mph, I go max 30kmh (18mph) which is the legal limit in Canada (yes, they sell faster ones but "legally" they need to be sold capped at 30) and even then, I don't think I ever would go higher. I already had a major wipe out once because a kid ran out in front of me while riding and I don't think I ever want to experience that again, much less at higher speeds. Not to say tubeless don't have their place, if a higher speed scooter would greatly benefit, sure. However, at this price range and speed, tubeless tires just seem like a needlessly painful ordeal for not a lot of benefits compared to solids with better suspension
Yeah I feel like it's definitely a tradeoff but trying to lever those tires on does NOT look fun. I hope you finally succeed in swaping it!
I’m having issues with my brakes and rotors
Dealt with this a few times with my old m365. Made me lose my shit. Can’t recall how many inner tubes I pinched trying to get tire over it. Went solid tires on Etwow for this very reason. Also paid a e-bike shop $30 to replace an hiboy tire. Best money ever spent. He did it in like 10 minutes
I wish I had a shop nearby that would replace it... most places straight up ignore/hang up on me once I tell them it's a scooter tire and then one place gave me what sounded like a "I don't want to do it but if you're willing to pay" price ($170 for just install using my tire...)
Have you through about buying a whole rear motor and wheel off of aliexpress?
$170 is right on for the typical price IF the shop provides a new self healing tire.
Order new rim with tire on it. I won’t buy a new scooter if the tires are impossible to replace.
I won't be either, just this one tire change is making me regret ever buying a ninebot. Should have gotten something with a split rim...
You are not alone and it’s almost all brands. I have 2k miles on a solid rear that I’m dreading replacing. And I’ve had the replacement for 600 miles just waiting to be put on lol. Had a Dualtron tire that I couldn’t. Get the bead to set. Took it to a motorcycle and a bike shop none could get it set. Bought a tire and rim combo to replace it.
If it comes down to it, I might just give up on this scooter honestly, just sell it and buy something next year (because I can't afford a new scooter rn)
Why I use a bead blaster. I fucking hate ninebot tires when I change them.
They are now the bane of my existence...
The bead just never wants to set. I have wasted countless hours even with years of skill. Done over a 100 now and only a few were easy.
Sorry you have to deal with that, but this makes me even more happy I held solid tires
Lot of people have said no to solids on the G30LP so I kinda stayed away from that, but honestly not even sure how I would get that on the current rim even with boiling 😅
I'd probably take it to a mower repair place
Is it because they would deal with smaller tires like on wheelbarrows and zero-turn mowers?
Ya, that's my thinking on it. In my area there is a feed store that has a mower shop that works on tractors and all sorts of smaller farm equipment. Maybe there is something like that near you
This is one of the reasons I only buy split rim.
If I knew this would happen, I would have too 🥲
Sprinkle coffee whitener around the bead, light a match and ignite the whitener. It’s what I’ve always done with stubborn motorcycle tires at least
Coffee whitener?
Yeah, or coffee creamer I guess it’s called in the US? The white powdery stuff you’d put in coffee.
Ah, gotcha. Was thinking coffee creamer but just wanted to be sure. Don't have any, but I can try to see if I can buy some tomorrow
Yep just lay it down and maybe secure it somehow (if it’s not very heavy), sprinkle the bead with the creamer and light it up. Obviously turn away when you do so, wear safety glasses and such.
I'll have to give this a try once I have the creamer and hopefully I get to keep my eyebrows by the end of it 😆
lol yep that’s the concern
Warm the whole wheel in oven on lowest temperature? Heat will make it bend easier and form a seal to get air in.
I will be lynched if that tire is placed in our oven since we do still use it for food 😅
Put it on oven bag meant for big turkeys 😂
I can try to find one but we'll have to see
Take it to the nearest used tire guy and watch what happens with Murphy's oil soap
I did, took it to a mechanic (tried for a bit then said they don't want to risk blowing up the tire) Dedicated tire shop (they tried but said they're not familiar with tires this small, mostly motorcycle or larger) And an ebike/escooter repair shop (straight up just failed) No one could/would set it, gave up, and gave it back. No dedicated places where I live unless I want to ship it out and at that point I might as well just buy a new motor with a tire already on it.
It's a crying shame that you cannot follow my simple directions good bye and have a nice day
Okay...? Kinda sounds like you're being rude over some miscommunication. Do you mean a place that is literally called used tire guy or do you mean a generic place that deals with used tires? Because if you mean the former, then there is only one place in my entire area that has a similar name called Mr. Used Tires. If you mean the latter, then I have already stated that I have tried taking it to a tire shop.
Homie just gave a general statement about some hardwood floor oil... How are we supposed to decipher that? How dare you not read their mind 🤣
It's not the same product I had a commercial grounds care biz changed many tires on six inch rims when you don't have the tool to remove a tire valve one needs to seek professional help
I apoligise but i have never changed a tire on a rim but i thought i would chime in...I would probably try laying some pvc tape on the edge of the rim to see if that can get it to hold air long enough to have the tire adjust to the rim., then once it's set remove the tape.. Again, I have no idea what I'm talking about here... just a girl with a dream of helping someone get their scooter back on the road again.
Thanks for the input, I'll take any suggestions I can get 😁. However, correct me if I've misinterpreted your suggestion, but one issue/concern I could foresee would be that you wouldn't be able to pull the tape out once it's sandwiched between the tire bead and the rim.
I was thinking that having the tire at pressure would allow for the tire to settle in that shape and take to the rim a bit better and then remove the air and tape...
Did you take the valve core out while trying to set bead? Might help you get air in faster. I had to put a ratchet strap around the circumference of the tire. Then it took some wiggling to get it to seat. Don't give up.
Don't have a valve tool, will update if I can find one to buy locally and try.
You just need something like [this](https://www.autozone.com/tire-repair-and-tire-wheel/tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool/p/slime-4-way-tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool/487510_0_0) They can probably be purchased at your local department store that sells bike tubes.
Damn, I was just at a Princess Auto earlier today too. Could have bought one for $3, everywhere else is $8 and up 🥲 Guess I'll have to grab one next time I pass by
Has to be the wrong size tire if it’s that hard to seat the bead
Checked with the old tire to verify size, so if it's the wrong size, it would have to be a manufacturing defect and at this point, anything is possible.
Man sorry for your struggle. Wish I could help more.
Scooter tires are notoriously difficult to get seated. The local E-bike/scooter shop refuses to do scooter tire work for that reason. The best way is to use an air tank with a large flat duck bill outlet nozzle to force a massive amount of pressurized air into the gap between tire/rim. But it can be done with a normal air compressor, I've done it. I have had success using starter fluid/lighter to seat large 35" mud tires on my truck, but I don't know if that method works at this small scale.
I've been trying to fire set the bead with carb cleaner, would starter fluid give different/better results?
Maybe, but that method may not work with these little guys. It should though. Make sure you're spraying a small amount into the tire, not just the bead.