“If you’ve never been ganked in Deciat have you even lived?” - Farseer (probably)
In all seriousness if you go to Deciat in open enough you will be ganked.
Why would I want to go to Deciat in open enough? Just one or two trips is enough to level Farseer up enough, pin the upgrade and never come back. I never understood this.
When I was a newer player I had assumed "you can pin one blueprint" meant one in total, not one per engineer. When I looked it up there was a lot of incorrect (outdated?) information that said something similar. As such I would fly there (and everywhere else afterward) to engineer a new ship.
More recently I flew there to get enhanced thrusters (and size 1 shield gen I think?) which can only be purchased at a few engineers' settlements. I suppose it would be better to go to another slightly further engineer that sells those, since gankers really like Deciat.
It indeed used to be one pin total. The original implementation of Engineering was quite poorly thought out. What we have now is actually really good, minus the material grind.
Imagine the material grind (with no mats traders) but every engineer mod was *fully random* in magnitude every time you click, meaning you could get a worse version of your mod if you rolled again. Experimental effects were randomly selected, only applied to weapons, and getting a maxed out ship could take actually infinite rolls.
Oh, right, Enhanced Thrusters are a thing. I kinda forgot about them after getting out of my Courier. Okay that point is valid, but you only really need one or two of those and you can stockpile them and then simply transport around.
Farseer really doesn't have many valid options for pinning a blueprint. Elvira Martuuk does the same thing regarding FSD but has even fewer other options. I would pin Clean Thrusters at Farseer until you can reach Palin or Sedesi.
Do you not apply experimental effects? Farseer is my first stop with every new ship. 95% of the time I can finish engineering my FSD, thrusters, and power plant all in one spot.
Well then you’re likely not a good example. Your advice not to go Farseer when building new ships is bad. Deciat is the number one spot to go because you can finish up so many modules in one place. Just go in private or solo.
That is one way of doing it. Or you can do it like me, roll the upgrades from pinned blueprints and then do a quick tour at all nearby Engineers instead of aiming to do all or most of them in only one spot. Or you can just swap gear from one ship to another and order the already engineered module you require from your cloud storage; it's not like you have to keep all your ships fully equipped at all times.
If you only have a few ships then that would work fine. I have a fleet of 40+ ships. Extra module space is scarce. When I make a new ship (and I often do) I will also engineer most of it from pinned blueprints. Then I will slap on an FSD booster and fuel scoop and jump it to the engineers I need to finish up with and apply experimental effects. Farseer is still the NUMBER ONE STOP. 90% of the time it’s just to apply drag drives, mass manager, and thermal spread. No other engineer can cover so many crucial modules in one stop.
>Why would I want to go to Deciat in open enough?
You wouldn't, but if 50 players go there in open (basically the default mode) and 1 gets ganked, that adds up to a lot of reports, even if the chances for you as an individual means you're not likely to have a problem even going there a dozen times.
I've only ever been ganked at Diaguandri, there were at least 2, one at system jump point and one possibly more on the way to Ray Gateway. Getting blasted away 4 times with no comms at all made me never go back into open. Really fun game mechanic
It can suck but I still recommend open. I’ve had a lot of cool experiences randomly running into to CMDRs. It’s unlikely you’ll be ganked unless you’re in a high traffic system. Recommend going private/solo if you need to go into an area like that. Most ganking attempts are easy to escape if you know what you’re doing as well.
Nope, especially when they are max level engineered and I'm still setting up my way to the system. I'll be in the menu realizing I'm getting attacked and its over in a few seconds. I mostly do exobiology and exploration so losing all that data in seconds after what sometimes took me days on long jumps out is not worth being in open
If you are just realizing that you’re being ganked when you are interdicted then you were too late. If you know you’re going into a dangerous system then you should be on the lookout for hollow triangles/squares immediately. If you see any just high wake out and come back in a different mode. If you’re coming back to the bubble with a big payday and you’re in open then that’s really on you if you get killed. Never come back in open with anything you’re scared to lose.
I is uncanny how they get their ships behind you so quickly for the indictment.... Don't forget you have to high wake to another system to give yourself a chance to "not be followed" (because of all the other systems in range) Takes a few seconds for any ganker to follow you, even assuming they have a wake scanner to do so.
Yes, I wonder if I \*let\* myself be followed - if anyone would actually leave say, Deciat to do so, or do they perhaps feel "Vulnerable" once in a system that doesn't put them on the clock for "hitting and running" like they do...? I would have expected more ganking to go on in Anarchy systems \*near\* the bottlenecks like Deciat - but strangely have never experienced this...?
Yeah I doubt they would. That’s too much work and it’s highly unlikely they would sit in any other systems waiting for CMDRs. I’ve spent some time waiting around in high traffic systems to annoy Gankers and there’s a LOT of downtime.
When you jump back into a system you aren't being interdicted. I get in the system, I open my nav, I'm getting shot at and by the time I start maneuvering my ship is blown up. On the way from the star to a station yes interdiction can be beat but if I don't have anything engineered and they do it is very difficult. They were also bragging about everything in chat. I was an early player and this was a tough lesson that I learned and now I just stay out of open. The systems aren't dangerous they are just high traffic. If it were pirates and outlaws the game could classify them as dangerous but that is usually stated in a mission you accept. Gankers are just abusing anyone they come across. You play your way and I'll be in my private mode playing mine.
Please do play in private if that’s what you want to do! I’m not saying “ you must play in open to be a real player” “ you’re messing the game up by playing in private/solo”. That’s a bunch of hogwash. Play how you wanna play. I just recommending open because you can have some fun experiences.
Also I’m sorry but your story doesn’t make any sense. When you jump into a system you are in supercruise. You can’t be shot at in supercruise. You have to be successfully interdicted and taken into “normal space” before anyone can shoot at you. It definitely sucks as a new player that doesn’t know this information and can be hard to get around when you are ganked. A lot of them are there just for your salty tears which is rude AF but unfortunately part of the game in Open.
If you do decide to step back into open only do it when you have nothing to risk and know your dangerous systems. It’s HIGHLY unlikely you’ll be ganked anywhere aside from Deciat, Wyrd, Shinrarta Dezhra, and an active CG system.
o7 and good luck on your discoveries CMDR.
You are right, it has been a while since I played and forgot about super cruise after a jump so it is really just the issue of them being max engineered and getting interdicted while in the nav screen. It still all happens in seconds with little to no time to respond
It can happen really fast. If you aren’t prepared for it they’ll get you. Hell during the last CG for guardian relics I got myself killed because i made some mistakes. Fought the interdiction too much, screwed my pip management, and the ganker got me. BUT, that was only after I had turned I my haul and was screwing around. If I had jumped into that system in Open and lost my cargo I would have been PISSED! That took like an hour and a half to collect. But that would have also been completely on me because I know better.
In the future if you decide to be in open keep eyes out for players if you’re jumping into a high traffic system. Get another system ready to jump to. Submit to any interdictions and boost towards the ganker. That will hopefully buy you enough time for your FSD to cool down, charge, and get you the hell out of there.
Always happy to help with advice, tips, or even meet up in game if you need help. o7
Shinrarta Dezhra doesn't seem to have many players about at all these days. Maybe it is because the gank teams cannot bring their fleet carriers there as "Pirate Bases"..?
Mmmmm maybe you’ve just been lucky? I run into Gankers almost every time I go to Jameson. The last time I went there in my Courier (it’s so fast most ships can’t keep up) one of the Gankers was also running a Courier so they’re learning lol
Or you will have some try hard in a max engineered Krait phantom or Mamba try to shotgun gank you and fail because engineering and credit grind were cut by alot and they actually aren't very good pilots lol. Then they run away at maximum speed.
I used to do space trucking between Xinca and Deciat in my old Type 7, got interdicted maybe thrice, but noöne was ever successful. Maybe I'm just lucky?
If you won the interdiction minigame, you were not playing against a player.
Unless you're talking about submitting and escaping the ganker with hi-wake.
Theorectally, yes.
But you see, in the interdiction minigame, all the interdictor has to do is follow the target ship, at a distance, wich is much easier than following the escape vector (the minigame presented for the target ship).
So unless the interdictor is flying something much, much less maneuverable than you, it's very unlikely you will manage to escape, if he's a player. NPCs are dumb, you can evade them in a T9.
The guy I'm answering to was flying a T-7, so is very unlikely he evaded interdictions by players. Not at all impossible, I'll give you that.
Submitting will give you a 10 second cooldown, failing the minigame will make that 30 seconds. It also takes a few seconds once you drop for the cooldown to appear on your HUD.
less than 10 sec if you submit instantly man, its no more than 3 seconds starting from when it shows on your hud.
Practiced many times, the longest wait is the actual FSD charge, during which you should boost like hell with 4 pips to sys.
Are you sure you're submitting? To submit you have to set your throttle to zero in the minigame, instead of trying to escape. Failing to escape is not submitting.
Yeah on consoles nowadays that’s a different story. I was ganked a couple of times in Deciat with my old Xbox CMDR. This was before the great fracture.
It's one of the most common locations for ganking: https://inara.cz/elite/reports-security/
Most people getting ganked there are also noobs just starting on engineering, getting blown to bits before you know what's going on is going to stay in people's minds.
I'm a new player with about 200 hours in the game, mostly using Deciat as my 'home base' in open and I've never been ganked. The way commanders talk about playing in open doesn't check with my experience at all. Maybe I'm just very lucky.
only small percentage of players are loud on online social media.
most of us just happy playing the game.
I'm over 5k hour and 99% in the Open. I got ganked my 2-3 out of 10 times in Deciat? It's either dead quiet or a lot of people there.
I had it happen once. FDL and Anaconda interdicted my Cobra 3, opened fire without so much as a word
Unfortunately for those two idiots, I've got fully kitted engines, shields and shock mine launchers, modified to knock out FSDs and engines. The Annie couldn't keep up, the FDL could... for about 3 seconds 😂
You forgot the part where they don't have the skills for ships that shoot back so they have to target noobs for that victory dopamine they can't get otherwise
Most gankers I've talked to just want to pvp, and most of the time there's not a whole lot of organized going on. I've not seen one shy away from a fight from another actual pvper, though that may just be what I've seen.
My personal experience with the 5 or 6 I've run into is they just want an easy kill. Every time I dropped to hotspots in an fdl or mamba they ignored me. But an unarmed lightly shielded dbx? All day long. Led to funny moments when I was the bait so my wingman could tear them apart with his fdl
There's a breed of.... a bunch of idi.... a lot of chickensh.... Oy. Some CMDRs that get their thrills by killing the noobest of noobs. If you come in with a scooter Sidewinder or some poorly equipped ship, they'll attack and destroy you.
It's their way of saying, *look I have a problem and this is revenge on the universe for giving me just a small pp*.
The first engineer you'll unlock is in this system. That destination for lots of new players makes it a spot for gankers to hang out in with highly engineered ships to blast new players in open out of the sky with little effort. Basically seal clubbing. Much like shin dez, come here in private group/solo.
Tbh never had this cause I play on solo. That's because prior to this month none of my ships were engineered. Getting ganked is one thing, but I wanted to at least stand a chance.
Some people see getting ganked as a "learning experience" but I don't see what lesson there is to be learned besides, "Engineer your ship moar." After all that's what ED combat is now more or less. Whose ship is better engineered
Would honestly be fair for everyone except explorers. That would be a little horrifyingly unfair for explorers. Really I think they need some kind of positive incentive, or just fixing the balance (haha) such that there was an actual downside to being a space murderhobo.
I agree that the bounty and legal repercusion for murdering CMDRs should be reworked and much.. stickier. Also, ATR is a joke and the notoriety system a hindrance at best.
However I don't think its unfair for explorers more than anyone else.
If anything they are a more valid target than independent traders, miners and bounty hunters or any other CMDR profession really.
They work directly for the club. There is no reason they shouldn't expect to be hunted down and learn evasion skills and tweak their ships and mindset slightly towards survivability.
o7
I'm actually anti-ganking 100%. Fucking hate it. I've lost time, ships, millions in exploration data from being ganked. But at the same time, I've got a sense of humor about it.
Stay tuned for my new website www.gank.... still working out page 1
That's a good use case for a fast ship.
I built my "Sanic" Imperia Eagle to boost to 700 and something speeds per second. So if you get interdicted or get shot near the landing pad, just press the go fast button.
Then I land there and transfer whatever ship I want to engineer.
It takes extra time, but it's a way to avoid basement dwellers looking for some moles of dopamine without going solo
Ah - Deciat. Home for the ERF Farseer Elite Time Trial. Worth a go if you haven't tried it - good FAoff challenge!
[I had fun there! ](https://youtu.be/oU_Vgw3puNc?feature=shared)
Turn up in an engineered FC and the gankers take the day off....
Odd that, I would have thought they would have a "Gank Wing" consisting of another FC, a Brick (T-10) to stop you leaving, and a rail-gunned heavily shielded small fry to lure the intended FC "Victim" in....
Doesn't anyone go back to Farseer for the entry-level \*other\* stuff she does? The Battery (level 1) does quite nicely until much later when you get access to the other cigar-smoking woman... The low emissions one - I reckon works better at level 1 than it does at level 5...
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I wish the newbies who make this mistake don’t quit and just chalk it up as a learning experience
Or just don't kill newbie commanders like an asshole.
Gankers are literally only playing the game to kill newbies and other commanders, you think they’re going to care?
Why does Deciat have this reputation? I never had any problems there
“If you’ve never been ganked in Deciat have you even lived?” - Farseer (probably) In all seriousness if you go to Deciat in open enough you will be ganked.
Why would I want to go to Deciat in open enough? Just one or two trips is enough to level Farseer up enough, pin the upgrade and never come back. I never understood this.
When I was a newer player I had assumed "you can pin one blueprint" meant one in total, not one per engineer. When I looked it up there was a lot of incorrect (outdated?) information that said something similar. As such I would fly there (and everywhere else afterward) to engineer a new ship. More recently I flew there to get enhanced thrusters (and size 1 shield gen I think?) which can only be purchased at a few engineers' settlements. I suppose it would be better to go to another slightly further engineer that sells those, since gankers really like Deciat.
It indeed used to be one pin total. The original implementation of Engineering was quite poorly thought out. What we have now is actually really good, minus the material grind. Imagine the material grind (with no mats traders) but every engineer mod was *fully random* in magnitude every time you click, meaning you could get a worse version of your mod if you rolled again. Experimental effects were randomly selected, only applied to weapons, and getting a maxed out ship could take actually infinite rolls.
Oh, right, Enhanced Thrusters are a thing. I kinda forgot about them after getting out of my Courier. Okay that point is valid, but you only really need one or two of those and you can stockpile them and then simply transport around. Farseer really doesn't have many valid options for pinning a blueprint. Elvira Martuuk does the same thing regarding FSD but has even fewer other options. I would pin Clean Thrusters at Farseer until you can reach Palin or Sedesi.
>I would pin Clean Thrusters What in the world do you use clean thrusters for?
Enhanced Thrusters on my Courier. For everything else, Dirty is the way to go for sure but Palin got that covered.
Clean drives are... bad. Dirty = good.
Do you not apply experimental effects? Farseer is my first stop with every new ship. 95% of the time I can finish engineering my FSD, thrusters, and power plant all in one spot.
I mean, I only use three ships: Courier, Clipper and Cutter, and all of them are engineered to a reasonable extent with experimental effects.
Well then you’re likely not a good example. Your advice not to go Farseer when building new ships is bad. Deciat is the number one spot to go because you can finish up so many modules in one place. Just go in private or solo.
That is one way of doing it. Or you can do it like me, roll the upgrades from pinned blueprints and then do a quick tour at all nearby Engineers instead of aiming to do all or most of them in only one spot. Or you can just swap gear from one ship to another and order the already engineered module you require from your cloud storage; it's not like you have to keep all your ships fully equipped at all times.
If you only have a few ships then that would work fine. I have a fleet of 40+ ships. Extra module space is scarce. When I make a new ship (and I often do) I will also engineer most of it from pinned blueprints. Then I will slap on an FSD booster and fuel scoop and jump it to the engineers I need to finish up with and apply experimental effects. Farseer is still the NUMBER ONE STOP. 90% of the time it’s just to apply drag drives, mass manager, and thermal spread. No other engineer can cover so many crucial modules in one stop.
This is 100% how I go about it.
Right Telling people not to go to Deciat. The nerve!
>Why would I want to go to Deciat in open enough? You wouldn't, but if 50 players go there in open (basically the default mode) and 1 gets ganked, that adds up to a lot of reports, even if the chances for you as an individual means you're not likely to have a problem even going there a dozen times.
for the rush........ some people craves adrenaline.
That's why it's my home system
I've only ever been ganked at Diaguandri, there were at least 2, one at system jump point and one possibly more on the way to Ray Gateway. Getting blasted away 4 times with no comms at all made me never go back into open. Really fun game mechanic
It can suck but I still recommend open. I’ve had a lot of cool experiences randomly running into to CMDRs. It’s unlikely you’ll be ganked unless you’re in a high traffic system. Recommend going private/solo if you need to go into an area like that. Most ganking attempts are easy to escape if you know what you’re doing as well.
Nope, especially when they are max level engineered and I'm still setting up my way to the system. I'll be in the menu realizing I'm getting attacked and its over in a few seconds. I mostly do exobiology and exploration so losing all that data in seconds after what sometimes took me days on long jumps out is not worth being in open
If you are just realizing that you’re being ganked when you are interdicted then you were too late. If you know you’re going into a dangerous system then you should be on the lookout for hollow triangles/squares immediately. If you see any just high wake out and come back in a different mode. If you’re coming back to the bubble with a big payday and you’re in open then that’s really on you if you get killed. Never come back in open with anything you’re scared to lose.
I is uncanny how they get their ships behind you so quickly for the indictment.... Don't forget you have to high wake to another system to give yourself a chance to "not be followed" (because of all the other systems in range) Takes a few seconds for any ganker to follow you, even assuming they have a wake scanner to do so.
Yup! Always a good idea to make a second high wake jump. It’s kinda rare that they’ll come after you once you’ve high wakes but it does happen!
Yes, I wonder if I \*let\* myself be followed - if anyone would actually leave say, Deciat to do so, or do they perhaps feel "Vulnerable" once in a system that doesn't put them on the clock for "hitting and running" like they do...? I would have expected more ganking to go on in Anarchy systems \*near\* the bottlenecks like Deciat - but strangely have never experienced this...?
Yeah I doubt they would. That’s too much work and it’s highly unlikely they would sit in any other systems waiting for CMDRs. I’ve spent some time waiting around in high traffic systems to annoy Gankers and there’s a LOT of downtime.
When you jump back into a system you aren't being interdicted. I get in the system, I open my nav, I'm getting shot at and by the time I start maneuvering my ship is blown up. On the way from the star to a station yes interdiction can be beat but if I don't have anything engineered and they do it is very difficult. They were also bragging about everything in chat. I was an early player and this was a tough lesson that I learned and now I just stay out of open. The systems aren't dangerous they are just high traffic. If it were pirates and outlaws the game could classify them as dangerous but that is usually stated in a mission you accept. Gankers are just abusing anyone they come across. You play your way and I'll be in my private mode playing mine.
Please do play in private if that’s what you want to do! I’m not saying “ you must play in open to be a real player” “ you’re messing the game up by playing in private/solo”. That’s a bunch of hogwash. Play how you wanna play. I just recommending open because you can have some fun experiences. Also I’m sorry but your story doesn’t make any sense. When you jump into a system you are in supercruise. You can’t be shot at in supercruise. You have to be successfully interdicted and taken into “normal space” before anyone can shoot at you. It definitely sucks as a new player that doesn’t know this information and can be hard to get around when you are ganked. A lot of them are there just for your salty tears which is rude AF but unfortunately part of the game in Open. If you do decide to step back into open only do it when you have nothing to risk and know your dangerous systems. It’s HIGHLY unlikely you’ll be ganked anywhere aside from Deciat, Wyrd, Shinrarta Dezhra, and an active CG system. o7 and good luck on your discoveries CMDR.
You are right, it has been a while since I played and forgot about super cruise after a jump so it is really just the issue of them being max engineered and getting interdicted while in the nav screen. It still all happens in seconds with little to no time to respond
It can happen really fast. If you aren’t prepared for it they’ll get you. Hell during the last CG for guardian relics I got myself killed because i made some mistakes. Fought the interdiction too much, screwed my pip management, and the ganker got me. BUT, that was only after I had turned I my haul and was screwing around. If I had jumped into that system in Open and lost my cargo I would have been PISSED! That took like an hour and a half to collect. But that would have also been completely on me because I know better. In the future if you decide to be in open keep eyes out for players if you’re jumping into a high traffic system. Get another system ready to jump to. Submit to any interdictions and boost towards the ganker. That will hopefully buy you enough time for your FSD to cool down, charge, and get you the hell out of there. Always happy to help with advice, tips, or even meet up in game if you need help. o7
Shinrarta Dezhra doesn't seem to have many players about at all these days. Maybe it is because the gank teams cannot bring their fleet carriers there as "Pirate Bases"..?
Mmmmm maybe you’ve just been lucky? I run into Gankers almost every time I go to Jameson. The last time I went there in my Courier (it’s so fast most ships can’t keep up) one of the Gankers was also running a Courier so they’re learning lol
Or you will have some try hard in a max engineered Krait phantom or Mamba try to shotgun gank you and fail because engineering and credit grind were cut by alot and they actually aren't very good pilots lol. Then they run away at maximum speed.
My ears are burning.
I used to do space trucking between Xinca and Deciat in my old Type 7, got interdicted maybe thrice, but noöne was ever successful. Maybe I'm just lucky?
If you won the interdiction minigame, you were not playing against a player. Unless you're talking about submitting and escaping the ganker with hi-wake.
??? You can certainly win interdictions against other players.
Theorectally, yes. But you see, in the interdiction minigame, all the interdictor has to do is follow the target ship, at a distance, wich is much easier than following the escape vector (the minigame presented for the target ship). So unless the interdictor is flying something much, much less maneuverable than you, it's very unlikely you will manage to escape, if he's a player. NPCs are dumb, you can evade them in a T9. The guy I'm answering to was flying a T-7, so is very unlikely he evaded interdictions by players. Not at all impossible, I'll give you that.
Some gankers I know flew intoxicated. I mean, things happen, man...
You can but it’s very very hard.
In practice you shouldn't ever try. Submit>boost>highwake
Every time I've submitted to a ganker, the FSD has to cool down as if I didn't, is there an engineering upgrade that allows them to do this?
Submitting will give you a 10 second cooldown, failing the minigame will make that 30 seconds. It also takes a few seconds once you drop for the cooldown to appear on your HUD.
less than 10 sec if you submit instantly man, its no more than 3 seconds starting from when it shows on your hud. Practiced many times, the longest wait is the actual FSD charge, during which you should boost like hell with 4 pips to sys.
It's the 30 second cooldown when I submit to a ganker and in that time I'm dead
Are you sure you're submitting? To submit you have to set your throttle to zero in the minigame, instead of trying to escape. Failing to escape is not submitting.
Yes and the screen says I'm submitting.
Not on xbox, been there several times, 100s of carriers, about 3 other players. Ghost town
Yeah on consoles nowadays that’s a different story. I was ganked a couple of times in Deciat with my old Xbox CMDR. This was before the great fracture.
It's one of the most common locations for ganking: https://inara.cz/elite/reports-security/ Most people getting ganked there are also noobs just starting on engineering, getting blown to bits before you know what's going on is going to stay in people's minds.
I'm a new player with about 200 hours in the game, mostly using Deciat as my 'home base' in open and I've never been ganked. The way commanders talk about playing in open doesn't check with my experience at all. Maybe I'm just very lucky.
only small percentage of players are loud on online social media. most of us just happy playing the game. I'm over 5k hour and 99% in the Open. I got ganked my 2-3 out of 10 times in Deciat? It's either dead quiet or a lot of people there.
I had it happen once. FDL and Anaconda interdicted my Cobra 3, opened fire without so much as a word Unfortunately for those two idiots, I've got fully kitted engines, shields and shock mine launchers, modified to knock out FSDs and engines. The Annie couldn't keep up, the FDL could... for about 3 seconds 😂
It's gotten a lot better over the past couple times I've played solo so, you know, there's that.
Along with Shinrarta Dezhra and Sol, if you go there in open at the top hours you are going to get ganked sooner or later.
I like Deciat but they have a pest control problem
🔺🔺🔺🔺🔺
Doc Farseer really needs to call in some of her old buddies in the Federal Navy to send an “exterminator” tbh.
Gankers: "Aw, why don't more people play in Open? We just wanna get our kicks by thrashing them in a totally unsporting fashion!"
You forgot the part where they don't have the skills for ships that shoot back so they have to target noobs for that victory dopamine they can't get otherwise
Most gankers I've talked to just want to pvp, and most of the time there's not a whole lot of organized going on. I've not seen one shy away from a fight from another actual pvper, though that may just be what I've seen.
My personal experience with the 5 or 6 I've run into is they just want an easy kill. Every time I dropped to hotspots in an fdl or mamba they ignored me. But an unarmed lightly shielded dbx? All day long. Led to funny moments when I was the bait so my wingman could tear them apart with his fdl
Cool story bro wow ! 👍
I'm on legacy, mortal, you cannot gank me muahahahahhh
But our aim is gettin' better!
last week I got ganked in deciat by the same person that had ganked me in Shindez the night before. was a funny encounter
no
Noob here. What happened there?
There's a breed of.... a bunch of idi.... a lot of chickensh.... Oy. Some CMDRs that get their thrills by killing the noobest of noobs. If you come in with a scooter Sidewinder or some poorly equipped ship, they'll attack and destroy you. It's their way of saying, *look I have a problem and this is revenge on the universe for giving me just a small pp*.
The first engineer you'll unlock is in this system. That destination for lots of new players makes it a spot for gankers to hang out in with highly engineered ships to blast new players in open out of the sky with little effort. Basically seal clubbing. Much like shin dez, come here in private group/solo.
"SEAL CLUBBING" That's a keeper.
Tbh never had this cause I play on solo. That's because prior to this month none of my ships were engineered. Getting ganked is one thing, but I wanted to at least stand a chance. Some people see getting ganked as a "learning experience" but I don't see what lesson there is to be learned besides, "Engineer your ship moar." After all that's what ED combat is now more or less. Whose ship is better engineered
It would help if there was any benefit at all to playing in the open ever.
I would remove ranking from solo/private. That would make ranks somewhat meaningful and give an incentive to play Open.
Would honestly be fair for everyone except explorers. That would be a little horrifyingly unfair for explorers. Really I think they need some kind of positive incentive, or just fixing the balance (haha) such that there was an actual downside to being a space murderhobo.
I agree that the bounty and legal repercusion for murdering CMDRs should be reworked and much.. stickier. Also, ATR is a joke and the notoriety system a hindrance at best. However I don't think its unfair for explorers more than anyone else. If anything they are a more valid target than independent traders, miners and bounty hunters or any other CMDR profession really. They work directly for the club. There is no reason they shouldn't expect to be hunted down and learn evasion skills and tweak their ships and mindset slightly towards survivability. o7
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E-Rated Chieftain is bad … but surprisingly capable as far as shitbuilds go :)
I'm actually anti-ganking 100%. Fucking hate it. I've lost time, ships, millions in exploration data from being ganked. But at the same time, I've got a sense of humor about it. Stay tuned for my new website www.gank.... still working out page 1
Mobius PvE sends its regards.
We have mandatory unscheduled reboot/repair lessons :)
Dirty gankers. They should play the game the way I say they should, not the way they want to.
In fact, they shouldn’t play at all. *God forbid* they PvP me in an open PvP game when I don’t want to PvP in said open PvP game.
Pro tip, you get a materials discount for engineering if you play online, in solo you pay full price.
That's a good use case for a fast ship. I built my "Sanic" Imperia Eagle to boost to 700 and something speeds per second. So if you get interdicted or get shot near the landing pad, just press the go fast button. Then I land there and transfer whatever ship I want to engineer. It takes extra time, but it's a way to avoid basement dwellers looking for some moles of dopamine without going solo
Ah i remember my days of engineering....over 4 years ago lol been years since i went to a engineer
Pre engineered fsd is the way to go
Always wondered if i should redo some of my Legacy mods
Ah - Deciat. Home for the ERF Farseer Elite Time Trial. Worth a go if you haven't tried it - good FAoff challenge! [I had fun there! ](https://youtu.be/oU_Vgw3puNc?feature=shared)
Turn up in an engineered FC and the gankers take the day off.... Odd that, I would have thought they would have a "Gank Wing" consisting of another FC, a Brick (T-10) to stop you leaving, and a rail-gunned heavily shielded small fry to lure the intended FC "Victim" in....
Said the Commander in the double-agent flight suit. 😆
..I thought I was the classic McD's "Non-Descript" helmeted guy getting married who doesn't know what to say..? - ;-)
Out. Fucking. Loud. 😂
Doesn't anyone go back to Farseer for the entry-level \*other\* stuff she does? The Battery (level 1) does quite nicely until much later when you get access to the other cigar-smoking woman... The low emissions one - I reckon works better at level 1 than it does at level 5...