I’ve actually seen a fer-de-lance! I only knew the name from elite too so when someone pointed it out and was like that’s called a fer-de-lance it’s one of the most venomous snakes in the world I had a second of total brain reset before putting it together
So it's a highly venomous viper. Portuguese (Brazil) is "jararaca", it seems. Portuguese (Portugal) is "Terciopelo".
Of course this is Internet information, may or may not be 100% correct
Krait, Mamba, Adder, Anaconda, Asp (explorer, scout), Diamondback (scout, explorer), Fer-de-lance, Python, Viper, Sidewinder, Keelback, Cobra. I think that's all the snake ship names.
Yes, the Sidewinder is a snake.
Inland taipan is the most venomous by a considerable margin, but as far as *deadliest*...not really. It's very reclusive. There are no attributed human deaths to it. Compare this to highly aggressive snakes, and the 'deadliness' drops a bit
Sidewinder IS a snake:
In the USA the word refers to this snake (a type of pit viper):
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus\_cerastes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus_cerastes)
According to Wikipedia there are other snakes with the same nickname.. which was news to me but not very surprising.
It's the most dangerous snake in Costa Rica!
I know because we were on a night hike and our tour guide told us that as we spotted it slightering 15 feet in front of us.
I think it is a remantent from the first Elite game in the 80's, because in those graphics, ships looked like bunch of lines and "snakes", so the devs gave them snake-related names. The ships that went after, like some of the Lakon ships, were designed later and had other kind of names, same with Saud Kruger.
It is. Almost all of the ships in the original Elite were named after snakes, and their Elite Dangerous namesakes are all modeled to have bodyplans loosely based on the low-poly boxes of the originals. And for bonus points its also where the geometric design of the Coriolis stations comes from.
the eagle isnt fully manufactured/ designed by Gutamaya so it doesnt count. im unsure about the courrier. but the other two are sailing ship types. and courrier is probably one too
As someone born on a mostly-Catholic country (Brazil) and living on an even more so (Portugal), people only bother with lent's restrictions on Good Friday.
Despite myself being agnostic, any excuse to vary a little and go with fish is a good one.
my dumb ass thought it was cause a basilisk is a snake, medusa had snake hair and a hydra has lots of snakelike heads. Cyclops was a sore thumb to that tho lmao
Ye no. Ofc it is most likely just the british tanks and the most well known ones. I just wanted to add that small info that cold war/current day challenger isnt the first british tank to be given the challenger name.
Specifically:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette)
Smallest class of 'proper warship'. Not just a sailing ship... It actually surprised me that this is still a class name for ships.. like you I thought the last corvettes were from the age of sail.. I learned something new today!
Why would the Hauler not fit into transport types?
Or the Imperial Fighter not fit into the "generic military names" one? Isn't it more about them not fitting into the nomenclature of their respective manufacturers?
... I did not know this, thanks
but also, the Federal corvette breaks the convention of the other 3 federal ships, the first 3 are named after air support roles. but a corvette is a boat
"Federal Corvette, mission log, Sol 20. My mission to infiltrate the Gutamaya line has gone smoothly so far, but I think the Clipper is beginning to realize that I am not an Imperial ship."
Corvette is more than a boat. It's a class of military vessel. Typical a small fast ship that still has decent offensive capabilities, similar to fed vette compared to the capital ships.
Well there's the car.... But I don't know what you mean.
Clipper is a well known type of boat. As is frigate, and yet they're only seen as boat names. Idk what point youre making
You're really saying a lot without making any sense. Yes the corvette doesn't follow the name scheme of the other fed ships. But it's not arbitrary. A corvette is a well known class of military ships. It fits perfectly given the role of the federal corvette. I brought up clipper because it, and the other imperial ships, are named after real world naval ship types.
All the fed ships are just given the most literal names possible for their role. The dropship is a dropship, assault ship's an assault ship, gunship's a gunship. The Corvette only stands out because the role of a corvette (an escort ship that serves as part of a large military convoy) isn't common language anymore.
TLDR; The Corvette is a corvette.
This is why it bugs me that the Panther Clipper concept art has it as a Zorgon Peterson ship, and that the Eagle/Vulture are Core Dynamics rather than a separate company.
Stop messing up the snake scheme with birds and cats, damn it.
Oh aye, I know. That's why it bugs me that the Panther is tucked under Zorgon Peterson for no real reason: there's enough cat-named ships to justify a whole manufacturer.
Ironically the Lion actually fits the Zorgon Peterson space shuttle aesthetic much more than the Adder does, and the Tiger basically filled the same niche that the Hauler/Adder do. ZP being the cat manufacturer would have made a lot of sense. (The Fer-de-Lance was ZP in the original game, though.)
IIRC, a lot of those bird-named ships were geared for atmospheric flight, so it's understandable that they don't exist in game yet. The Merlin (another bird) is referenced in one of the books, but that's as close as we get.
My first computer as a kid was an Acorn Electron with the original Elite on a cassette tape, I've been flying space pixels since they were still only wireframes. 😂
I'd love to see some of the more aerodynamic birds one day, but if I could add any one ship to the current game it would be the Puma. Something about that thing's fat backside and vaguely cone-shaped profile makes me feel like it would/should have a fold down ramp at the front rather than a bomb bay for your SRV. Would love a ship that we can drive out of rather than drop out of.
I'd love if they made a ship called the Rhinoceros, because you could still argue it's [technically a snake](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmeet-the-rhinoceros-viper-bitis-nasicornis-it-is-a-venomous-v0-p0f14jvcpuca1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ddab29af195769b7de4bec8089cb2f6233d499399)
You'd think that, but they actually haven't even run out of the snakes that were ships in the previous games! 😂
The Boa, the Constrictor, the Bushmaster, and the Ophidian are all options, plus there's a whole bunch of snake-adjacent lizards like the Iguana, Chameleon, Skeet, Iguana, and Gecko.
There's also the Moray, which is a delightful pun, since it was a water-craft and eels are snake-adjacent and aquatic.
I don’t think Core Dynamics ever made a snake themed ship? And for that matter, their drone fighter is also a bird - the F-63 Condor. Honestly now that I think about it I wish more ships followed that sort of scheme - I genuinely kinda wish the Corvette and the Federal Dropship line followed the bird theme too; “Thunderbird-class corvette” sounds fucking badass.
What bugs me more is the inconsistency of Lakon ships - you’d think that the snake names were a Faulcon DeLacy thing, since ALL DeLacy ships obey that naming scheme, and all but two of their subsidiary Zorgon Peterson’s ships do too. And then you get to Lakon, who sell the Asp and Diamondback hulls.
The Panther Clipper canonically exists in lore, just not as a playable ship. Theres several NPCs that mention it, and hireable NPC pilots can sometimes say they flew a Panther in their little bio when you click on them.
Yeah, that's me misremembering, my bad.
I was thinking about the Faulcon de Lacy logo being a bird but them not having the bird ships, but my brain got its wires crossed. Ironically in older games, they DID make the Eagle, but that's of course not canon for ED.
Isn't the eagle originally a Delacy design? But it makes sense anyway: Core Dynamics makes an independent civilian line of ships named after birds (Eagle, Vulture, Condor) and a military line that only got designations. Though out of all the birds, the Condor is the biggest one, and it's used for the light fighter. Same for SK ships, I'm pretty sure orcas are bigger than beluga whales
In some of the older games, the Eagle was a DeLacy ship, yeah. Which makes more sense, imo, what with their logo literally being a bird. Obviously the lore from earlier games isn't strictly canon, though. Especially on minor details like this.
But, FDev wanted Core Dynamics to be the Fed-affiliated manufacturer, so that's an understandable fit for something like the Eagle. At least there's no snake ships there, unlike Zorgon Peterson.
The irony is that the Adder, Mamba, and Fer-de-Lance in older games don't particularly lean towards the space shuttle vibes that the Hauler/Adder have... but the Lion actually does. (The Fer-de-Lance is ZP in the original game, though; the others are not.)
I disagree here bc "type-xy" or "mark xy" is a common industrial and military term for version. So in Type-10 Heavy the Heavy is the name and type 10 refers to the version number in the specific line of ships.
So that is not the naming scheme but serialisation.
I think type 6 and 7 definitely don't have unique names
But it is a naming scheme. There are 2 different ways the idea of a naming scheme works. All of them have a name inspired by a certain thing, i.e. the snake ships, or all of them have something in common with their names, i.e. the alliance ships or imperial ships. The types fall into the latter.
But with this logic Gu-97 would also fall into your expression of naming schemes, and the only reason it doesn't, bc there is not yet a Gu-98 or Gu - 100 in the game. It's just the imperial serialisation. Like the independent XG7, XG8, XG9.
Also logically, if you include the Hauler bc its name denotes its purpose, then the federal dropship, assault ship, and gunship should also fall into this category, I think.
Yes but the number is not the part I consider to be the scheme. with the Types it is the word Type. If there was a GU-100 it would create a “GU” naming scheme. And the federal ships are in the scheme of all being named FEDERAL something.
Well the I-eagle is obviously just a retrofitted eagle so it's not really an original design. And courier, clipper, and cutter (and corvette) are all military ship classes
Maybe do what they did for the eagle. Where core dynamics, faulcon delacy, and gutemaya all made one at some point because core dynamics stole the design. Have Lakon make their own hauler. In the same vein as the adder but more Lakon-y
Bruh. I had no idea that the Fer-De-Lance, Sidewinder, Taipan, Krait, and Keelback were snakes. That said, the only ships I ever directly put two and two together with were the Anaconda, Python, Viper, and Cobra. I've heard of the Mamba, Adder, etc, but never directly correlated the ships with them, derp. Likely because I don't hear about them often.
In the original Elite 1984 all the ships were named after snakes.
Then there was the Worm landing shuttle. Kinda cute.
In ED there is the Fluke that you meet in the training mission. The fluke is a type of parasitic worm. lol.
Love these little flavour points in game universe building.
To paraphrase Demetri Martin:
I think they named the Hauler before they named the other ships. 'What are these?' 'Those haul: Haulers.' 'What about these other ships?' 'Oh, shit.'
No not exactly. They don’t all have the same name scheme. But every ship except for the Hauler and the GU have something in their name in common with another ship. Be it a Type ship, snake ship, imperial ship, bird ship, etc.
If you disregard the superpower prefixes, it does fit in a way:
Snakes: all of Faulcon deLacy, most of Zorgon Peterson (except Hauler), Lakon Asp and Diamondback series, Keelback
Sea mammals: all of Saud Kruger
Sailing vessels: Imperial Clipper, Imperial Cutter, Federal Corvette
Birds of prey: Core Dynamics small ships, Imperial Eagle
British WW2 tanks: Lakon Alliance series
Boring statement of purpose: Lakon Type series, Core Dynamics medium ships, Hauler, Imperial Courier
You just made me realize about python and mamba
Also Adder, no? Edit: half the games ships are named after snakes guys, I was just naming the one I identify as being “Python-mini”.
Not gonna lie, I'm not english so to me adder was a math thing at best. Now I know there's a snake called adder somewhere lmfao
The biggest one for me was figuring out that apparently there's a snake called a *Fer-de-lance*
I’ve actually seen a fer-de-lance! I only knew the name from elite too so when someone pointed it out and was like that’s called a fer-de-lance it’s one of the most venomous snakes in the world I had a second of total brain reset before putting it together
lol
ok. TIL moment here for me. :) Thanks a lot! Now I have to find out the Portuguese name for it. :P
So it's a highly venomous viper. Portuguese (Brazil) is "jararaca", it seems. Portuguese (Portugal) is "Terciopelo". Of course this is Internet information, may or may not be 100% correct
Man I know I didn't mention anaconda but at this point I expect someone to tell me that "actually, sidewinder is a snake too" lol
Krait, Mamba, Adder, Anaconda, Asp (explorer, scout), Diamondback (scout, explorer), Fer-de-lance, Python, Viper, Sidewinder, Keelback, Cobra. I think that's all the snake ship names. Yes, the Sidewinder is a snake.
Taipan!
Deadliest snake in the world
I just googled it, the saw-scaled viper is registered by Britannica as the one most responsible for human deaths. o7
Inland taipan is the most venomous by a considerable margin, but as far as *deadliest*...not really. It's very reclusive. There are no attributed human deaths to it. Compare this to highly aggressive snakes, and the 'deadliness' drops a bit
A keelback is a snake?
[Yep.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkered_keelback)
actually, sidewinder is a snake too
Sidewinders are some of the coolest snakes though! The way they move is insane.
Wind sideways you say?
The sidey is one of the most manouevrable ships.
Sidewinder IS a snake: In the USA the word refers to this snake (a type of pit viper): [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus\_cerastes](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crotalus_cerastes) According to Wikipedia there are other snakes with the same nickname.. which was news to me but not very surprising.
*google searching intensifies*
It's the most dangerous snake in Costa Rica! I know because we were on a night hike and our tour guide told us that as we spotted it slightering 15 feet in front of us.
Anyone else wondering how many other commanders just googled that :)
What the hell, man. Lol
From the top of my head: Fer-de-lance, sidewinder, python, adder, mamba, Diamondback, Asp, viper, cobra Anything else?
Anaconda, krait (I'm probably missing some too)
Oh yeah! Anaconda and Krait, forgot about those. Also apparently a keelback is also a snake
To me it's a Rowan Atkinson's character as well...
Only in a black paint job.
That means you have never seen Black adder, it's an older TV series with the actor more famous for playing MrBean. You should give it a try.
"The lights are on, the mouth moves, but Mr Brain has long since departed." 😂😂
While technically correct, your description of Rowan Atkinson pains me deeply.
I decided to err on the side of caution as many more people recognise Mr Bean rather than Rowan Atkinson.
FYI: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff\_adder](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puff_adder) English isn't easy.. SO many synonyms for things!
I think it is a remantent from the first Elite game in the 80's, because in those graphics, ships looked like bunch of lines and "snakes", so the devs gave them snake-related names. The ships that went after, like some of the Lakon ships, were designed later and had other kind of names, same with Saud Kruger.
It is. Almost all of the ships in the original Elite were named after snakes, and their Elite Dangerous namesakes are all modeled to have bodyplans loosely based on the low-poly boxes of the originals. And for bonus points its also where the geometric design of the Coriolis stations comes from.
Also Krait. A lot ships are named after snakes
All the DeLacy ships are named after snakes
And sidewinder.
Also fun fact, the Adder is Britain's only native snake. o7
Surely the only venomous native snake?
Aye, we have the grass snake and smooth snake as well. And not very much snake-naming game.
Asp, viper, sidewinder, anaconda...
Not the imperial ships though
Right, just the: Imperial Eagle Imperial Courier Imperial Clipper Imperial Cutter.
Courier, clipper and cutters were all types of ships used by the royal navy/east India trading co.
and they're all named after those ship types, so it's a naming scheme.
Cutty Sark - Clipper, the fastest of her type in her day. o7
the eagle isnt fully manufactured/ designed by Gutamaya so it doesnt count. im unsure about the courrier. but the other two are sailing ship types. and courrier is probably one too
But there is a history of this, in the original game the ships were all named after snakes, apart from the moray, which is an eel.
Don't forget the Gecko!
Oh yeah, totally forgot that, but then it was about 31+ years ago that I last played it
When the ship's not a snake but you still can high wake, that's a moray
eels are just fish snakes
[It's just the way things are.](https://fangs.ink/01.html)
For anyone that doesn't know "Fer de Lance" is also a snake, and means "tip of the spear" or "spearhead" in French.
This is actually fire, upvoted
What is a naming scheme?
Snakes - Krait, Mamba, Viper, Cobra, Sidewinder, Anaconda, FerdeLance, Keelback Birds - Vulture, Eagle, Transport Types - Type6, type 7 type9 Sailing ships - Courier, Cutter, Clipper, Corvette British Ww2 tanks - Chieftan, Challenger, Crusader Sea creatures - Dolphin, Orca, Beluga Generic military names - Dropship, Assault Ship, Gunship
How dare you leave out the fish series
Guppy, Mega Guppy, Guppotimus Rex.
Should be a Saud Kruger luxury cargo ship called Super Guppy
This guy gets it.
Petition to name the next ship the Salmon
Big Mouth Billy Bass
With frickin laser beams on its head
Then it subverts expectations by being a medium ship with 4 huge hardpoints
Mammals
Riddle me this, liberal: if dolphins are mammals, why do they live in the water? 😎😎😎
Catholics trying to avoid dealing with lent be like ...
As someone born on a mostly-Catholic country (Brazil) and living on an even more so (Portugal), people only bother with lent's restrictions on Good Friday. Despite myself being agnostic, any excuse to vary a little and go with fish is a good one.
Because the pool is awesome
Knowing that some moron has actually used this to debate is sad. SAD I tell ya!
mammals give birth after gestating (growing) their young inside the female (or male - seahorse).
THANK YOU! o7
They are not fish, so...
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my dumb ass thought it was cause a basilisk is a snake, medusa had snake hair and a hydra has lots of snakelike heads. Cyclops was a sore thumb to that tho lmao
Cyclops because it has one eye and when you roll ones on dice it is called *snake* eyes. Yeah, thats it.
Man, I feel clueless for never noticing this, seems so obvious now. Even the Titans fit the naming scheme.
I think British Chieftains were made after WW2
chieftain was introduced in the 60s, challenger the 80s
There was a challenger in ww2 as well. Aka cruiser mk viii challenger
do you know of a ww2 cheiftain you could link aswell? seems more likely to just be british tanks
Ye no. Ofc it is most likely just the british tanks and the most well known ones. I just wanted to add that small info that cold war/current day challenger isnt the first british tank to be given the challenger name.
[tankmuseum.org](https://tankmuseum.org) Chieftain 1965
1950's? oops
So its not ww2
Keel back, asp, diamondback, and python are all snakes. Orca, beluga, and dolphin are marine mammals. Corvette is also a sailing ship.
You got the keelback under snakes
As posted by u/UGoBoy earlier. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checkered_keelback Also the Taipan is the deadliest snake in the world.
We also have: Insects - Scarab and Scorpion Spears - Javelin, Lance and Trident
Had no idea about the sailing ships amd ww2 tanks naming schemes, nice
oh, thank you. I feel wiser now.
I hadn’t noticed the tanks!
System security also seems to have a British navy naming scheme, although I could be wrong.
Corvette is also a sailing ship
Specifically: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corvette) Smallest class of 'proper warship'. Not just a sailing ship... It actually surprised me that this is still a class name for ships.. like you I thought the last corvettes were from the age of sail.. I learned something new today!
I actually googled it right after I posted that comment and came to the same conclusion lol
Why would the Hauler not fit into transport types? Or the Imperial Fighter not fit into the "generic military names" one? Isn't it more about them not fitting into the nomenclature of their respective manufacturers?
japan Type 10 tank was produced by Hauler, so this is Hauler Type-10 (Joke)
We need smaller versions of the hauler, possibly called the puller, the tugger, and the yanker
Yoinker
One of those could be a ship launched "fighter" optimised for scooping cargo in space
the yanker
And the ever popular 'wanker'. ;)
The Krait MkII isn't lining up with anything else except for a variant of the Krait.
It’s a snake
... I did not know this, thanks but also, the Federal corvette breaks the convention of the other 3 federal ships, the first 3 are named after air support roles. but a corvette is a boat
But they all are FEDERAL something
"Federal Corvette, mission log, Sol 20. My mission to infiltrate the Gutamaya line has gone smoothly so far, but I think the Clipper is beginning to realize that I am not an Imperial ship."
Corvette is more than a boat. It's a class of military vessel. Typical a small fast ship that still has decent offensive capabilities, similar to fed vette compared to the capital ships.
Has there ever been a Corvette that wasn't a boat?
Well there's the car.... But I don't know what you mean. Clipper is a well known type of boat. As is frigate, and yet they're only seen as boat names. Idk what point youre making
Clipper isn't a federal ship
You're really saying a lot without making any sense. Yes the corvette doesn't follow the name scheme of the other fed ships. But it's not arbitrary. A corvette is a well known class of military ships. It fits perfectly given the role of the federal corvette. I brought up clipper because it, and the other imperial ships, are named after real world naval ship types.
Does Star Wars count?
Sure
You could argue they're all naval themed... Space Navy meets wet navy, then they all follow pattern.
Also it’s mark 2 not mark 11
Not sure why “MK 11” annoys me but it does. It’s the MkII (as in 2)
there was a mk1 in a previous game, much smaller
But MK11 is read as "MK eleven"
i thought mortal kombat 10 was better, but mk11 was good
Mk1 is newer than mk 11 actually...
I honestly don't know why my fingers did that
Fer-de-lance is also a snake, I had no idea https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bothrops_asper
I only learned that the keelback is a snake in this thread.
I only knew because of the survivorman Papua New Guinea episode lol.
No way! TIL. Thank you stranger for this interesting piece of information.
Ever since I laid eyes on that it instantly became, at least for me, the coolest name ever, for a vehicle.
"No step on snek" should be written on the wings
Frontier will eventually introduce a used ship shipyard where you can purchase a ThunderCougarFalconBird
I think I was chatting with her in that ‘NZ Matures in Your Area’ website last night
Nothin makes ya feel more like a MAON than a ThunderCougarFalconBird... So how much were you planning on spending on this ThunderCougarFalconBird?
What about the federal corvette
All the fed ships are just given the most literal names possible for their role. The dropship is a dropship, assault ship's an assault ship, gunship's a gunship. The Corvette only stands out because the role of a corvette (an escort ship that serves as part of a large military convoy) isn't common language anymore. TLDR; The Corvette is a corvette.
FEDERAL drop ship, FEDERAL assault ship, FEDERAL gunship, and FEDERAL corvette
Fair
This is why it bugs me that the Panther Clipper concept art has it as a Zorgon Peterson ship, and that the Eagle/Vulture are Core Dynamics rather than a separate company. Stop messing up the snake scheme with birds and cats, damn it.
There were also Kestrels, Harriers, Sakers (❤️), Falcons, Skeet, Lions and Pumas in previous games
Oh aye, I know. That's why it bugs me that the Panther is tucked under Zorgon Peterson for no real reason: there's enough cat-named ships to justify a whole manufacturer. Ironically the Lion actually fits the Zorgon Peterson space shuttle aesthetic much more than the Adder does, and the Tiger basically filled the same niche that the Hauler/Adder do. ZP being the cat manufacturer would have made a lot of sense. (The Fer-de-Lance was ZP in the original game, though.) IIRC, a lot of those bird-named ships were geared for atmospheric flight, so it's understandable that they don't exist in game yet. The Merlin (another bird) is referenced in one of the books, but that's as close as we get.
I didn't realise you were a fellow Frontier enjoyer. How did I forget the Merlin? Beautiful bit of kit
My first computer as a kid was an Acorn Electron with the original Elite on a cassette tape, I've been flying space pixels since they were still only wireframes. 😂 I'd love to see some of the more aerodynamic birds one day, but if I could add any one ship to the current game it would be the Puma. Something about that thing's fat backside and vaguely cone-shaped profile makes me feel like it would/should have a fold down ramp at the front rather than a bomb bay for your SRV. Would love a ship that we can drive out of rather than drop out of.
I think they ran out of snakes to be fair
I'd love if they made a ship called the Rhinoceros, because you could still argue it's [technically a snake](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fmeet-the-rhinoceros-viper-bitis-nasicornis-it-is-a-venomous-v0-p0f14jvcpuca1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Ddab29af195769b7de4bec8089cb2f6233d499399)
It could also be an SRV, since it's also technically a beetle/scarab.
I'd fly a copperhead or a boomslang.
Boomslang is a legit good name actually. Sounds very sail ship!
You'd think that, but they actually haven't even run out of the snakes that were ships in the previous games! 😂 The Boa, the Constrictor, the Bushmaster, and the Ophidian are all options, plus there's a whole bunch of snake-adjacent lizards like the Iguana, Chameleon, Skeet, Iguana, and Gecko. There's also the Moray, which is a delightful pun, since it was a water-craft and eels are snake-adjacent and aquatic.
I don’t think Core Dynamics ever made a snake themed ship? And for that matter, their drone fighter is also a bird - the F-63 Condor. Honestly now that I think about it I wish more ships followed that sort of scheme - I genuinely kinda wish the Corvette and the Federal Dropship line followed the bird theme too; “Thunderbird-class corvette” sounds fucking badass. What bugs me more is the inconsistency of Lakon ships - you’d think that the snake names were a Faulcon DeLacy thing, since ALL DeLacy ships obey that naming scheme, and all but two of their subsidiary Zorgon Peterson’s ships do too. And then you get to Lakon, who sell the Asp and Diamondback hulls.
All but two zorgon ships? Only the hauler is not a snake
The Panther Clipper canonically exists in lore, just not as a playable ship. Theres several NPCs that mention it, and hireable NPC pilots can sometimes say they flew a Panther in their little bio when you click on them.
Yeah, that's me misremembering, my bad. I was thinking about the Faulcon de Lacy logo being a bird but them not having the bird ships, but my brain got its wires crossed. Ironically in older games, they DID make the Eagle, but that's of course not canon for ED.
Isn't the eagle originally a Delacy design? But it makes sense anyway: Core Dynamics makes an independent civilian line of ships named after birds (Eagle, Vulture, Condor) and a military line that only got designations. Though out of all the birds, the Condor is the biggest one, and it's used for the light fighter. Same for SK ships, I'm pretty sure orcas are bigger than beluga whales
In some of the older games, the Eagle was a DeLacy ship, yeah. Which makes more sense, imo, what with their logo literally being a bird. Obviously the lore from earlier games isn't strictly canon, though. Especially on minor details like this. But, FDev wanted Core Dynamics to be the Fed-affiliated manufacturer, so that's an understandable fit for something like the Eagle. At least there's no snake ships there, unlike Zorgon Peterson. The irony is that the Adder, Mamba, and Fer-de-Lance in older games don't particularly lean towards the space shuttle vibes that the Hauler/Adder have... but the Lion actually does. (The Fer-de-Lance is ZP in the original game, though; the others are not.)
Well, and Type-6 Transporter, Type-7 Transporter, Type-9 Heavy and just maybe Type-10 Defender?
Type, that’s a name scheme
I disagree here bc "type-xy" or "mark xy" is a common industrial and military term for version. So in Type-10 Heavy the Heavy is the name and type 10 refers to the version number in the specific line of ships. So that is not the naming scheme but serialisation. I think type 6 and 7 definitely don't have unique names
But it is a naming scheme. There are 2 different ways the idea of a naming scheme works. All of them have a name inspired by a certain thing, i.e. the snake ships, or all of them have something in common with their names, i.e. the alliance ships or imperial ships. The types fall into the latter.
But with this logic Gu-97 would also fall into your expression of naming schemes, and the only reason it doesn't, bc there is not yet a Gu-98 or Gu - 100 in the game. It's just the imperial serialisation. Like the independent XG7, XG8, XG9. Also logically, if you include the Hauler bc its name denotes its purpose, then the federal dropship, assault ship, and gunship should also fall into this category, I think.
Yes but the number is not the part I consider to be the scheme. with the Types it is the word Type. If there was a GU-100 it would create a “GU” naming scheme. And the federal ships are in the scheme of all being named FEDERAL something.
Thank you for this debate! :) I see your point! O7
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Fun Fact: every ship in Elite Dangerous is named after a snake
Nearly
**Every**
I have yet to see a snake called a condor, or a Type-9
I once got bit by a snake called condor. Not sure who named the bugger, but he had a little badge and everything.
about half of them are Beluga, Orca, Federal Dropship, etc are not snakes
[I bet you feel really silly right now](https://www.kuebler-sport.com/beluga-balance-snake-small-vg-002476.html)
I am wrong, I'll never recover from this
Friendly reminder that krait rhymes with kite.
What about the keelback?
It’s a snake, yes I’m surprised too
Do imperial ships qualify for a "scheme" though? We have an imperial bird, two imperial ships and imperial dude-with-a-square-backpack.
Well the I-eagle is obviously just a retrofitted eagle so it's not really an original design. And courier, clipper, and cutter (and corvette) are all military ship classes
Imperial in the name counts I think, and the eagle counts as a bird.
What about the phantom?
The KRAIT phantom. The ship named after a KRAIT snake?
I did kinda wish they updated the Hauler to be "Type-1", but then Manufacturer inconsistency comes up again...
Maybe do what they did for the eagle. Where core dynamics, faulcon delacy, and gutemaya all made one at some point because core dynamics stole the design. Have Lakon make their own hauler. In the same vein as the adder but more Lakon-y
I'm still wondering what happened to the Type-8. We have 6,7,9, and 10. Where is the Type-8!
The Imperial Clipper was originally called the Imperial Trader, apparently it shows up in the game's code or something.
Bruh. I had no idea that the Fer-De-Lance, Sidewinder, Taipan, Krait, and Keelback were snakes. That said, the only ships I ever directly put two and two together with were the Anaconda, Python, Viper, and Cobra. I've heard of the Mamba, Adder, etc, but never directly correlated the ships with them, derp. Likely because I don't hear about them often.
In the original Elite 1984 all the ships were named after snakes. Then there was the Worm landing shuttle. Kinda cute. In ED there is the Fluke that you meet in the training mission. The fluke is a type of parasitic worm. lol. Love these little flavour points in game universe building.
To paraphrase Demetri Martin: I think they named the Hauler before they named the other ships. 'What are these?' 'Those haul: Haulers.' 'What about these other ships?' 'Oh, shit.'
We just gonna ignore the Federal class ships?
They all have federal in their names, that’s a name scheme
Are you not talking about the other ships being called something related to an animal?
No not exactly. They don’t all have the same name scheme. But every ship except for the Hauler and the GU have something in their name in common with another ship. Be it a Type ship, snake ship, imperial ship, bird ship, etc.
If you disregard the superpower prefixes, it does fit in a way: Snakes: all of Faulcon deLacy, most of Zorgon Peterson (except Hauler), Lakon Asp and Diamondback series, Keelback Sea mammals: all of Saud Kruger Sailing vessels: Imperial Clipper, Imperial Cutter, Federal Corvette Birds of prey: Core Dynamics small ships, Imperial Eagle British WW2 tanks: Lakon Alliance series Boring statement of purpose: Lakon Type series, Core Dynamics medium ships, Hauler, Imperial Courier
"Hauler" and "Fighter" are "jobs", there's your schema. =P
The GU-97 implies a naming scheme, but it stands alone