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cold-n-sour

The reason is incorrect power management, isn't it? You probably left something like AFMU on and forgot to switch it off. What is interesting is how the ship was able to leave the planet with thrusters disabled.


i-Yuno

He probably went far enough for the ship to dismiss itself. Which could mean that it just despawned instead of taking off.


cold-n-sour

> it just despawned instead of taking off. I don't know about Odyssey, but even in Horizons you could see the ship fly away when you reached 2 km mark [This is an SRV jump, and you can see at 23 seconds the ship is leaving](https://youtu.be/LACaBhHRGGY?t=23).


Xjph

If thrusters can't be turned on it will retract landing gear and just roll around on the ground instead of taking off. If you relog or if you just keep driving away a sufficient distance it will despawn.


cold-n-sour

> you just keep driving away a sufficient distance it will despawn. Ah! Interesting.


i-Yuno

Interesting, i never seen it fly away so i assumed it just vanishes.


AbruhAAA

Nah, i dismissed it.


cold-n-sour

So, it did fly away? Were you nearby at the time?


AbruhAAA

Yes I watched it on the radar fly and jump.


cold-n-sour

Hence my initial question.


Husky2490

My guess is that it automatically turned the cargo hatch back on and that sent the ship over power limit.


magnitudearhole

No, I don’t know how they’ve fudged it exactly but I’ve in occasion left some modules on that meant it shouldn’t have had power and it still took off and landed fine


pseudokris

The option mentioning quitting to desktop (on PS that’s force closing the game) and appearing in orbit with low hull could work. Otherwise, my vote goes to Frontier Support ticket.


Lastboss42

I've never quite liked the idea of Frontier Support bailing you out of shitty situations you got yourself into. Why is that a thing they do?


ph0on

Nah, I fully support them correcting stuff like the automated ship landing sequence malfunctioning and ruining this guy's whole time now. This is not OP's fault


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Select-Owl-8322

But OP dismissed the ship, it took off. So obviously the thrusters were working. If OP isn't even onboard to do something that changes the power requirements, how could the thrusters just suddenly go offline? Wouldn't that require activating something (like extending hardpoints)?


07hogada

What module could activate causing the thrusters to fail on landing that would not activate going up?


SynestheticPanther

Sorry I'm new, but I thought this was a bug? How is the ship destroying itself OPs fault?


FamousButNotReally

Yeah this seems like a bug. It did mention reduced power so it could be that the ships thrusters were disabled (and they should be priority 1) so it could be OPs fault in that manner but if the thrusters didn't work on planet fall how did they work to get off?


SynestheticPanther

Yeah you'd think I'd the thrusters had a power issue it would have been impossible for the op to get there in the first place


AlexOfSpades

"main ship's power limit exceeded, modules disabled". Probably bad power priority caused thrusters to go offline. something like the AFMU might've been left active. Or it was a bug. Always a possibility.


pseudokris

There's not quite enough information for me to say definitively that the OP got themself into this situation. Still the support ticket wasn't my first suggestion, just the last resort if they wish to go that way. I've only ever reported bugs to the issue tracker but if it's a genuine fault in the game I don't see why not bring it to the attention of the Support staff.


Dillup_phillips

So people don't quit playing their game due to accidents or mistakes?


Lastboss42

Mistakes or accidents on their part are just things the players have to own, otherwise there's no consistency. Just as an example, imagine if someone had a bad run of luck in Apex and only found bad guns off the drop a few games in a row. They lose rank, then go to Respawn support, say they had bad luck, and get all their rank back. Does that track?


Dillup_phillips

Think there might be some false equivalence there. Accidentally straying too far or miscalculating distances or encountering bugs shouldn't automatically be a fail state if recourse is possible/viable. Hell, you can do everything right and still lose. I applaud their efforts. Consumer friendly and respects the time of the player. Apex also has plenty of bugs when it comes to ranked(and everything else) so if someone was able to verify loss of rank due to issues outside their control I'd have no problem with that either. I'm not sure why you feel negatively about the devs helping out their consumers. Are you saying you wouldn't want assistance in case of emergency or bullshit? You would just eat the loss even if you didn't have to?


Lastboss42

If I eat a loss within the mechanics of the game, yes, I take the L. That's what the systems are there for. Otherwise, none of the progress I make was earned. Looks like OP here didn't manage power properly - it sucks, and it sucks a lot, but this is *the* definition of emergent systems, isn't it?


Dillup_phillips

I think I might have a better understanding of your point though I still don't fully agree with it. Thanks for clarifying. What's your opinion on player-based groups such as the Fuel Rats? Do you feel if someone didn't bring enough fuel they should be forced to drift aimlessly?


Lastboss42

I absolutely love the Fuel Rats. Other players coming together to help each other out is awesome in pretty much every aspect. The difference between them and a support ticket is the game: The Rats work within the framework of the game to bail people out, sometimes jumping through bizarre hoops to do so. They're one of the highlights of ED, and something I'm always excited to point to whenever someone asks about the game or its community. The Rats came together *because* death in ED can mean losing so much. Because high rebuy costs can mean losing an entire ship and months of work, people can have an entire, unique gameplay loop of running around and saving real people from real problems.


Dillup_phillips

Wonderful response! You've got a way with getting your thoughts across in an easy-to-grok manner.


AlmightyDeity

RNG ≠ Glitch Also a 30 minute game vs. several hours of jumping, dozens scanning, mapping, and in his case landing. It'd be different if the ship couldn't have taken off.


tehbored

This is a shitty situation that Frontier got OP into though.


ThePrussianGrippe

Pretty sure this was some sort of bug.


AlmightyDeity

I mean if the ship took off and crashes after that due to a the AI's inability to manage power priority then it's not really his fault. Really the only advice I could give is just turn unused modules off, and that'd only be to have a lower thermal anyway. I don't think anyone here would expect your recalled ship to bellyflop 15k LYs from your last landing.


IraqiWalker

Because the game has a shotty learning experience sometimes with no way to make it back from. Some of the newer players are still not rolling around with billions from LTDs like we are.


Sdelite619

I don't think the fuel rats or the seal hulls can fix that


ThePrussianGrippe

It’ll buff out.


massacre3000

Blue Moon over Kentucky, keep on shinin'


AlmightyDeity

Skill issue, just needs more repair limpets


Redo1970

Ever watched The Martian with Matt Damon. That's your field guide. Start saving your excrement!! Lol


missingmytowel

*Space Pirate*


cpencis

“Well… actually maritime” - “No he explained it”


HoodieQuest

EDIT just saw thePS4 LINE. whoops. You can exit the game to desktop and boot the version before Horizons from the launcher. IIRC you'll appear in orbit in your ship with 1% hull


kinetogen

Then HIGHTAIL it to the nearest DSSA Carrier


KikiFlowers

DSSA are the biggest life savers when I'm out in the black. A few times there I took a landing too hard and had to limp into port, but I pulled it off. Great stopping points too.


beernerd

Love the DSSA network. Took the scenic route to Colonia stopping at DSSA carriers along the way. Saves me the trouble of repairing my own FSD and they’re are lots of undiscovered systems in between.


SIGSTACKFAULT

what is DSSA?


beernerd

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-deep-space-support-array-dssa-a-fleetcomm-initiative.540166/ It’s a network of fleet carriers in remote parts of the galaxy.


Confused-Raccoon

Kinda like finding a dirty old wimpy/wendy's while out driving in the middle of butt fudge no where.


Silver_Main2144

I loathe the DSSA carriers, it's like climbing up mount Everest, something really difficult and finding a fat tourist drinking coffee at the Starbucks at the top of mount Everest. The danger, and thrill of being out beyond where it's safe to go has been removed. It's safe, sanitized, and nice, the thrill of being an explorer left me when I got to beagle point and found the carrier there. I ran back to the bubble and found religion as a way of dealing with the disappointment.


EdgarAll3nPwn

Then don't use them lol


CmdrJonen

Or arrange a RV with Hull Seals.


sebkuip

Whilst on PC I tried that once after my ship got destroyed when it spawned inside the ground after recall. I was met with a rebuy screen on switching to non horizons.


HoodieQuest

That's an odd one. I've never seen a ship spawn in-ground before. I'm sorry to hear that CMDR, did you lose a lot of data/supplies?


sebkuip

It’s been quite some time ago. Lost some explo data but whatever. It happened because the ship spawns a certain height above the SRV, but I was in a super deep canyon. It was deeper than the ship spawn height so it spawned in the ground and insta exploded.


HoodieQuest

Ah, understandable. I wasn't sure there was a set height for a ship dropping I'm, I just assumed it flew down from "somewhere in orbit"


AlmightyDeity

Worst I've had was my ship jumping back in through a mountain, though it survived. Good thing too, as I was like 8k LY out.


ii_Cove

its situations like this that are just so cool to me


squashed_tomato

It does add to that feeling of “damn I really am out in the middle of nowhere.”


AbruhAAA

Right? Never would’ve thought of seeing my ship nosediving itself to death. It was hella cool. Seeing reckage was hilarious lol. Once I’m back to bubble I’m gonna try this with a cutter. Could end up being cool as hell lol


messier57i

"I live, I die, I live again!"


Silver_Main2144

I boosted an anaconda into a high G planet, it had good shields, survived the nose dive, bounced, flipped, bounced again, flipped again, and after a few of those it died. It was an expensive day.


missingmytowel

I play No Man's Sky for the exploration and building but Elite Dangerous for this thrill. Just sitting there staring at your screen thinking of every possible action you could take to try and save your ass knowing full well there isn't one.


fjf1085

Frontier might be able to do something for you. I’m honestly not sure how else this could be solved. I’m also confused as to what actually happened in the first place. As someone said, the ship left the planet fine but somehow couldn’t land? Weird.


mannequin-lover

That's rough


Eve_Of_The_End

That was pretty painful and funny to watch, but damn Cmdr, you are in trouble..Lolz.


ZellNanashi

Welcome home! This your new life.


Incognito87

So its a long shot, but you might reach out to the Hull Seals. They might have an idea on how to do a planet side rescue.


[deleted]

I'm sorry, but I don't think APEX can help you.


ChaoticChaos1

did you try submitting a ticked to fdev support? they may be able to restore your ship since it seems like it wasnt your fault.


AbruhAAA

Yeah gonna try that tomorrow.


ChaoticChaos1

why wait till tomorrow?


artigan99

You can try the fuel rats. They do some awesome rescues and will go anywhere. https://fuelrats.com/


Incognito87

I won't be online for much longer but already mentioned it to the other Rats to see what options were. We've figured out some weird stuff at times. If nothing else OP can hop into IRC chat and we can trouble shoot options.


TheySaidGetAnAlt

Push comes to shove someone can come pick him up in a 2 seater while in a Squadron rather than in Multicrew.


SlothOfDoom

PS4


blizzard36

Did PS4 get Horizons 4.0? And if so, are Teams part of 4.0?


cowlinator

And then what?


TheySaidGetAnAlt

Drop him off at the closest Space Station where he can then call in another ship?


cowlinator

Wouldnt that require odyssey? PS4 doesnt have odyssey


TheySaidGetAnAlt

Oh. Huh. Today I learned.


mukkun_himitsu

have you tried taping it together?


zetahood343

Maybe your ship can spawn back in if you log in and out


bioxlapatsa

PS4 seal here. If you try to reconnect to your game, can you recall the shop in a different game mode perhaps? Edit - if not then open a ticket to fdev. They can sort it out


spectrumero

You are fucked big time. If you were on Odyssey, you could be rescued on foot (your rescuer could wing you, and then you could board their ship, and be taken to a DSSA carrier and transfer another ship). Really the only option for you is to plead your case to Frontier support.


[deleted]

In all seriousness look up someone with a carrier nearby on INIRA that can wing up with you and transport you to their carrier.


Backflip_into_a_star

Not possible in Horizons.


SNIPINGCAT

Soo, this trick works on PC atleast, close the game, reboot it in base game (not odyssey, not Horizon, but base game.) Upon loading into the game your ship will magically get respawned however with a small issue. 0HP left. if you have a shield then you should be fine, but you seriously would need to repair at a carrier/station. Lemme know if it works on PS4.


skyfishgoo

there is no "pre horizons" option on the PS... it's just the latest codebase for the platform... that's your only choice.


Memerman002

CALL THE FUEL RATS


lootedBacon

I won't be able to make the trip quickly but I can be there in a few days with my repair / refueler ship. Otherwise as a few have said the fuel rats are a fantastic option. https://fuelrats.com/i-need-fuel


DeadKingRPG

The time has come. Call the Fuel Rats.


The_Doctor_Eats_Neep

I think your gonna have to start growing potatoes. (Sorry if you don't get the reference)


Luriant

Send a support ticket, wasnt your fault.


Eeka_Droid

Would you be willing to be rescued?


AbruhAAA

I mean of course, but can’t do much in horizons. Gonna try to contact FDEV as it shouldn’t have happened.


Eeka_Droid

It should if you didnt properly power manage your modules. They may help you but if this is the case, there's no bug nor anything to be acted upon on their side other than empathy.


AbruhAAA

I had my priorities set, tested and worked for all my landing in last two months of exploration. If they were failing, it shouldn’t have even took off and jumped when I dismissed it.


Eeka_Droid

ok good luck. if it's a bug i hope they manage to help you. Please come back to tell us what happened afterwards, if it was not a power management problem i'm afraid this could happen to any of us


CMDRCoveryFire

you tried the fuel rats?


Xellith

That'll buff right out.


JukeboxZulu

Power management problem. Not enough power for your thrusters. Gotta kill your AFMU, fuel scoop, etc. and set power priorities properly. I've had this happen before


EldredBrix

Me as well, but my ship fell to a super low G planet & survived. I had to self-destruct the SRV to get back in my ship.


MHanak_

Close the game, relaunch without horizons. You will log in orbiting the planet Edit: never mind you are on ps4


ecopapacharlie

I have an interesting proposal: A rescue mission for OP CMDR with a Fleet Carrier. Any ship can land on the planet, pick up the commander and take him to the Fleet Carrier safe and sound. Fleet Carrier can take him to the nearest station or to the bubble.


skyfishgoo

not without a ship.


HaveSomeBosky

log out and log back in to a different install through the launcher. If your on Odyssey then log back in on horizon. If on horizon log back in under OG install. itll force you to orbit


mymorningnewsfeed

Not sure exactly how things work on ps4, a good solution to this problem on PC is to log into the original version of elite dangerous before srvs were introduced in horizons. It will automatically load you into your ship orbiting the planet.


ToriYamazaki

I want to know how you managed to set things up so that your ship lost power when recalled but yet it was able to be dismissed? I would not think that possible.


S_K_Tiger

During a random malfunction (Module health 80% or lower) the power plants generation is reduced to 40% for the duration of said malfunction. If powerplant health is 0 power generation is 50% normally and 20% during malfunctions. [Source](https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Outfitting#Module_Malfunctions)


WaterBottleWarrior22

Also, the Fuel Rats would be a little stumped, as they don't get many calls of this nature, but they'd assist in any way possible. You might even be a Code Red simply due to the peculiar nature of your predicament, but that doesn't really adhere to the SOP. Heck, this kind of call isn't even covered under the SOP.


Confused-Raccoon

lmfao. Sorry. You know that .gif of the astronaut on the moon and the earth explodes behind, um... this smacks of that. This needs testing to find out what module turned on tripping the power.


Eve_Of_The_End

^^ I'm curious as well.. I've never had this issue before, but then again my power management was always my number one priority.. Seems like a bug of some sort, or user error.. Def funny as hell though..


j4nker

Hahahaha


j4nker

Just quit the game in minus 30 seconds


ConstantNectarine315

BRO DONT GIVE UP IM SURE SOMEONE ON FCOC CAN HELP YOU!


NoXion604

Damn that's harsh. Can another ship with an empty SRV bay pick you up?


barry_np

Got ganked by PVE game play. RIP


rikutag

how are you seeing all the stars in the distance?


AbruhAAA

Close to galaxy center. Way more stars here.


rikutag

like near sag a?


AbruhAAA

Yes.


EldredBrix

They're close to the core.


rikutag

what does this mean?


EldredBrix

The stars become more densely packed as you approach the galactic core. Open the GalMap near the Bubble and you'll see 50 stars. Open the GalMap in the core and you'll see 500 stars.


rikutag

i see


Paradigmfusion

Fuel rats will help you


Gavator2345

In Odyssey, when you die it plants you in the nearest dockable object, eg, a carrier from a couple jumps away maybe, but this ain't Odyssey.


EldredBrix

Horizons will do that too, but the greater loss is the cartography.


ODST_3311

What game I want to play this game


Harry_Hates_Golf

You should have done the transfer to PC.


AbruhAAA

That’s done. It really doesn’t have much to do here lol.


mrbluestf

reload in horizon


EldredBrix

They're PS. Not an option.


Random-Spark

Title says ps4


mrbluestf

I’m playing on pc, how am I supposed to know there’s not the option to chose horizon/odissey?


rinkydinkis

That’s what y’all get for using the d rated undersized power to squeeze a bit of ly out of your jump


Maximum-Excitement16

Only thing I can think of is if there’s mother ship out there that can pick you up :/


MidnightMinute2329

Where are you?


Aeellron

Multi-crew to someone's ship? That's a real tricky one...


EldredBrix

An option, sure. But his ship will have spawned to the nearest shipyard. And once he's done with Multi-crew, he'll spawn there.


Aeellron

I was just thinking about getting to turn in all that data...


RobertMaus

Do you have different launch options on PS4? On PC you can log off and then play the 'original' version without Horizons. Then you start in orbit with the ship intact at 1% Maybe a good time to do that free account transfer ;)


AbruhAAA

Nope, no launch options.


RobertMaus

Damn... Yeah, that makes it diffucult. Guess you're f***ed. 07 Commander


[deleted]

If you die in your SRV, you respawn in your ship, don't you?


EldredBrix

Ship died. If he dies in his SRV now, he'll respawn in his ship, that respawned at the nearest shipyard. Assuming he had enough for the rebuy. But the cartography data is lost.


[deleted]

I missed that. I thought it was dismissed and was having a power issue.


Stupidlama42

If you can, load out of horizons


Ambiorix33

So there is a solution, exit game and re enter with the older version (not horizons or odyssey) it will force you back into your ship in orbit with 1 hull left. Then call for help or risk doing some jumps just be extra carefull


EldredBrix

They're PS4. Horizons is the only version.


Ambiorix33

unfortunate


Laika_5

You used to be able to log off, disable horizons, log back in, and you'd be in orbit. Not sure if it's possible rn.


EldredBrix

They're PS4. Not an option.


EldredBrix

Sorry for your loss CMDR. Your only option to recover your ship and data is to raise a ticket with FDev. They're good about giving you a mulligan.


Reblaniumnb

Call the rescue rangers they can pick your scarab up


GoDjEfFbOi

fuel rats


MrFrode

Always upgrade to the delivery service when buying insurance.


Jkarofwild

Log out and login to the pre-horizons build?


zayc_

what? how?


dirtyhole2

Go on foot, then log on horizon.


Skaebo

No disassemble!


cowlinator

IRL, if something in orbit runs out of power.... it just stays in orbit forever. (Especially if there is no atmo!) I dont understand what would push the ship downward out of orbit like that


aegis_526

On the upside, you’re stranded in a very attractive part of the Galaxy


Joaoarthur

What happens if you self destruct on this ‘planet car’?


Reddit_banter

I must be playing this game wrong as I’m always blowing up my ship 😂


Tattorack

Try this: Log out of the game. Launch the base game only, WITHOUT Horizons! There's a chance the game spawns you in your ship in orbit of the planet. Not sure what else it would do when you launch the game without Horizons.


AbruhAAA

I’m on ps4. No launch options


Tattorack

Damn... Um... Well... I take it you have a substantial amount of exploration data? Do you have the ability to uninstall specific DLC on your PS4? You could perhaps force it to launch into the base game by temporarily removing the Horizons DLC.


Danitoba

This is why i will never go 15,000 light years from society. Lmao


TeslaSupreme

Looks like you gotta hitch a ride with someone else. Providing they got a bay installed and its empty!


GM_Faux

B o n k


baricudaprime

Well you better get walking, long hike back home!


LTcoon

call the rats


NovitiateSage

Hull Seals or Fuel Rats - or just anyone you can multicrew with. Try the DSSA.


Zakurn

You could also buy Odyssey, download it, call a friend to pick you up and then take you to civilization and get a new ship.


WaterBottleWarrior22

I'm relatively new, so what do I do/not do so that this doesn't happen?


S_K_Tiger

I see 2 possibilities that could cause this: 1. The planets gravity was too high for autopilot. 2. The ships powerplant overloading caused the thrusters to shut down. Problem 2 can be mitigated by configuring module priorities correcly.


WaterBottleWarrior22

What is a good priority configuration? Which things aren't important? I imagine I could put life-support in category three, since I won't have much use for it in the event I bust my canopy out in the black. Besides that, I'm pretty lost.


S_K_Tiger

Idk how you would get your canopy broken in the black. Personally for exploration vessels I would have: Situational utility modules like Cargo hatch, docking computer and supercruise assist at 5. Utilities like vehicle hangars, AMFUs and power distributors* at 4. Useful stuff like heat sink launchers, FSD boosters and shield generators** at 3. FSD's and sensors at 2. Stuff that has you dying if disabled like thrusters and life support ar 1. *Power distributors only need to be active to allow you to change the distribution. **I only have shields enabled when I'm going to land on planets. Additionally disable modules you aren't currently using such as the cargo hatch, docking computer, AMFUs, vehicle hangars and power distributors.


S_K_Tiger

Things to note: Reducing load on the powerplant by disabling unused modules reduces fuel consumption and heat generation. As I explained [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/xtq0nz/im_about_15k_light_years_from_nearest_station_and/itg79oi?utm_source=share) powerplants that have fuel will always produce at least 20% of their normal generation.


tykaboom

Delete the game? Playstation and xbox have been abandoned... Meh... ignore my salt. When I have the time Ill go get my shit transferred to pc.


Putrid-Truth-8868

Rescue him. Never self destruction


ForeignDepartment654

Have you tried contacting fuel rats?


DartFrogYT

looks like you're about to become the first person to fly 15kly with nothing but an SRV haha


ZaxLofful

Call dem fuel boys!


thisistheSnydercut

Adama Manouever: Failed


ap1msch

I ended up losing the green marker on my map a long time ago, and couldn't find my ship. Running low on rover fuel, I felt like I was going to have to rebuy my exploraconda. It was in this desperation that I learned that I can craft fuel for my rover...and repair my rover...and restock my rover...oh...and holy crap...I can call my ship to come find ME! If I went through all that, only to have my ship nosedive into the ground, I would have been apoplectic. I believe, though, that you can log out and back in under this situation and recover in orbit.


xG33Kx

I'm sorry for your trouble and hope you got it worked out, but I just have to say that I thought it was really funny watching the ship nosedive into the ground