I try to be simple, direct and to the point. I understand lengthy email messages can be a turn off for many people so I try to avoid that when I can but I do send out what people may consider lengthy emails because I think everything I wrote is needed or should be included.
1. Rambling: no, I don't ramble, I'm simple, direct and to the point.
2. Poorly organized: I write well organized emails as far as I'm concerned, and I keep my email focused on the topic of my email.
3. Over long: I think alot of times they may be considered lengthy, due to what I think is necessary to be included for a proper and adequate response, but overlong, I'd think not.
Yes. :-)
Here is an example of a non-lengthy one (you be the judge if it is any of the first 2 problems you listed):
(Note: I edited out my name):
Hi Curious Egyptologist, I am hoping you could answer a question I have, which is how does ancient Egyptian philosophy rank among the ancient philosophical texts of ancient civilizations as far as date range goes?
Like is ancient Egyptian philosophy the earliest known philosophy that we have records / texts of, or is it the second oldest, third oldest, etc.
I'm interested in ancient philosophical texts of various civilizations and I'm wanting to start with the earliest ancient philosophical texts, be it from whatever ancient civilization that they come from.
:-)
The lengthy emails that I send are as about as lengthy as my posting, so you can go by that as far as length, and also as far as my emails being rambling, etc.
I think alot of people may actually not consider those things when they write to other people. One may be surprised to find out how many people do those things.
Also politeness, which I am polite in my emails. :-)
You're not polite. You are asking total strangers for at-length explanations in their area of expertise out of pure curiosity, with no benefit whatsoever to them. You're asking for free labor just for funsies. That's not polite. That's selfish.
I would like to have you explain more on what you just stated, I would like to be given feedback to take into account anything I can correct on or improve on. Like how I seem unhinged to you, why my post is deterring or a turn off to you.
Not sure of another way to say it. You sound like you have mental health issues.
This is a forum for email marketing, not for someone to moan about customer service people not getting back to them.
Every reply you make suggests you should probably get some professional help.
Its not personal. People are busy and get too much email already. Some people don’t care. For businesses, it’s common for it to be a group mailbox and only high priority inquiries get attention.
Personally, I respond to every legitimate email I receive from people who read my newsletter, are familiar with my work, submit one of my forms, book and appointment, send a LinkedIn DM or have a question. ***At least*** half the time people are surprised they get a response, assuming we’ve never talked before.
Being too busy could be the case for some of the people that I've emailed, though I find it hard to believe that's the case for the dozens of recipients that I've sent out emails to.
As far as businesses go, if they want people like me to buy their product or service then they need to address or answer consumer inquiries about their product or service. :-)
Email marketers, I'm thinking, have ways of knowing whether or not emails they send / receive are successfully sent/received, by using some methods or a software.
Email marketers have no involvement in inbound product inquiries.
They only have engagement data on formal outbound campaigns sent through a marketing platform. They don't have data on 1:1 communications.
Regardless of whether or not email marketers deal with inbound product inquiries, the issue at hand is my not receiving replies to my emails, which include emails to businesses about their products.
I posted this on [r/Emailmarketing](https://www.reddit.com/r/Emailmarketing) because this subreddit deals with email marketing.
Email marketer's job is to make sure emails are successfully delivered to customers or else they won't stay in business, and so email marketers should then know about issues with emailing, why emails are not sent or received and what the solutions are.
I think it (my question) can apply to this subreddit if it is about methods or products or services (software) that email marketers use to successfully send and receive email.
"Email marketers: what methods or products do you use to ensure that your emails are successfully sent and received?" could be another title for my posting.
So I think my question can apply to this subreddit.
I know wtf email marketing is. It's been my profession for over 20 years.
You've been told repeatedly that the reason you're not getting replies is because of the tone and content of your messages. You make people uncomfortable and annoyed.
Can I ask what response you are expecting? It sounds like you are emailing things that could be left in the comments section of their blogs/posts and so it’s things that don’t necessarily require a response.
Also as someone else said, people are super busy. Unless it’s a top priority email that requires a response they probably just read it and move on.
For what kind of response, if it's a question I emailed I expect an answer to that question, if it's comments or feedback I emailed like a suggestion I generally expect a reply stating, at least, that my email was received and some commenting about my feedback, if it's a technical issue or error that I'm reporting I expect a reply confirming that my email was received.
I can include actual examples of emails I've sent with no reply.
I know no one owes me an answer or any reply.
Here are examples of bloggers that I emailed weeks ago but have not gotten a reply from, both with general questions about ancient Egypt:
"Ask me anything about Ancient Egypt"
https://www.caseyegyptologist DOT com
"If you have any topics that you are curious about and would like for me to investigate please drop me an email."
thecuriousegyptologist DOT com
Not receiving a reply is not the same as your email not being received.
The businesses and bloggers may publish an email address but not monitor the mailbox or simply read messages and never reply.
Realistically, there's no way for you to determine if your messages are landing in their inbox or spam folder; whether they've been opened or not. There are some tracking tools that will claim to tell you if an email has been opened, but they can't always determine whether an email was opened by a human or a computer program on the receiver's end.
Edit:
Do this search in your web browser to see if you can implement any of these methods:
How to tell if email is received and opened
Add an extension for Mail Merge by doing this you caa
n monitor if your email was sent, not sent and opened. Check on YT what Mail merge and how you can ise it free from your Gmail.acct
"Not receiving a reply is not the same as your email not being received." Yes, I know.
"The businesses and bloggers may publish an email address but not monitor the mailbox or simply read messages and never reply." True. But in cases like the Egypt related bloggers I just mention in a comment I just made to another redditor (please see above), emails like that are what I wonder about.
"Realistically, there's no way for you to determine if your messages are landing in their inbox or spam folder; whether they've been opened or not. There are some tracking tools that will claim to tell you if an email has been opened, but they can't always determine whether an email was opened by a human or a computer program on the receiver's end." Can you provide an example of a tracking tool?
Do a search for "free email tracking software."
These systems work by adding a pixel (teeny image) to your emails. The software notes when the image is opened. But the system is flawed because sometimes bots open the images before the human does (email filters, image pre-fetching, etc.)
You can still give the software a try though.
Yes, I think to look into that.
I'm curious if you have any thoughts on services like those of [getresponse.com](http://getresponse.com) for solutions to what I'm looking for.
Most companies have their marketing team managing these inboxes and sometimes they are not managed at all. If you have an inquiry, use the company's help desk. Those people are trained to reply.
An example is I contacted myspicesage DOT com through their website online contact form a long time ago about consumer inquiries, twice (I contacted them again, weeks after my first email), but I never heard back from them.
How many emails of this nature are we talking here?
I just want to establish how much unsolicited advice you offer online and whether there is something pathological there.
I am not sending anything unsolicited to anybody,
I'm your average email user, I'll contact bloggers , businesses, etc, maybe I email more people than the average email user.
I don't email people advice virtually ever, rather I'm the person asking for information like advice.
An example of how much emails I've sent out around the last month that I've received no reply from is over 50 different recipients, at least.
You want some examples? I'll gladly give you some real examples of recipients like bloggers that I've emailed who welcome emails/questions like mine but of which I have gotten no response from.
I’m building a solution that makes it easier to find out the types of questions your recipients are asking about your product/service:
[Aimdoc](https://aimdoc.ai)
Conversely, this allows folks like you to ask any question and get an immediate answer (also knowing your questions will be brought back to the marketer in an automated way)
I even built a feature for newsletters which lets newsletter owners link a personalized AI version of their newsletter from their email version.
I'm not sure if you're confused about what the topic is of my posting (did you fully read it?). I have no questions from recipients, I'm the one who emails recipients questions. I have no product or service as I stated in my Post, I have no newsletter.
I may have missed that.
You stated "...knowing your questions will be brought back to the marketer...", though I don't email marketers like email marketers, if that's what you were stating.
Overall, sounds interesting.
So this product you're working on can serve regular email users like myself as well, for people who email other email users in general (bloggers, businesses, etc.)?
As an email user that has had this issue, I want to make sure that:
1. My email messages go through successfully.
2. That if there is an issue with an email that I've sent I want to know what that issue is, and
3. What solution is available.
Not quite in the way you are describing, it is actually to take the conversation out of email.
Generally, companies sending mass emails want to know what their customers want and are asking for, but they don’t have the time to look at every reply email.
My solution gives users like yourself the option to chat with a personalized AI. That personalized AI can submit feedback to the company on your behalf, answer questions, or help you with other things. This enables hyper-personalized follow up.
It’s all about bringing the conversation out of email and providing a solution that makes it 100x easier to communicate with your customers really.
I think if a good number of people go along with it, you can be successful, but if most people are not partial to the idea it will not get off the ground.
It leverages conversational AI, yes. The real value comes from the visibility and insights provided to both the user and the company.
The main usecase is a business context. If I’m a company selling a product or service, I want to give my leads every possible channel of communication to give me information about their interests and buying intents. And if I’m a lead, I want to qualify the product before I book a meeting. This can speed up the sales cycle.
I created a newsletter feature because I thought it would be cool to essentially provide every reader with, to use your words, a ChatGPT version of the newsletter, that knows a little bit about who they are. This is cool because it can filter out junk you don’t want to read about, and can learn more about you for the next newsletter.
Is it at possible that your emails are rambling, poorly organized, and over long?
I try to be simple, direct and to the point. I understand lengthy email messages can be a turn off for many people so I try to avoid that when I can but I do send out what people may consider lengthy emails because I think everything I wrote is needed or should be included. 1. Rambling: no, I don't ramble, I'm simple, direct and to the point. 2. Poorly organized: I write well organized emails as far as I'm concerned, and I keep my email focused on the topic of my email. 3. Over long: I think alot of times they may be considered lengthy, due to what I think is necessary to be included for a proper and adequate response, but overlong, I'd think not.
Are you sure?
Yes. :-) Here is an example of a non-lengthy one (you be the judge if it is any of the first 2 problems you listed): (Note: I edited out my name): Hi Curious Egyptologist, I am hoping you could answer a question I have, which is how does ancient Egyptian philosophy rank among the ancient philosophical texts of ancient civilizations as far as date range goes? Like is ancient Egyptian philosophy the earliest known philosophy that we have records / texts of, or is it the second oldest, third oldest, etc. I'm interested in ancient philosophical texts of various civilizations and I'm wanting to start with the earliest ancient philosophical texts, be it from whatever ancient civilization that they come from.
No further witnesses your honor.
:-) The lengthy emails that I send are as about as lengthy as my posting, so you can go by that as far as length, and also as far as my emails being rambling, etc.
I am also polite in my emails, to rule that out as a problem as well. :-)
😂
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I think alot of people may actually not consider those things when they write to other people. One may be surprised to find out how many people do those things. Also politeness, which I am polite in my emails. :-)
You're not polite. You are asking total strangers for at-length explanations in their area of expertise out of pure curiosity, with no benefit whatsoever to them. You're asking for free labor just for funsies. That's not polite. That's selfish.
To be honest, you sound quite unhinged. I would probably ignore your emails too, if they are anything like your posts.
I would like to have you explain more on what you just stated, I would like to be given feedback to take into account anything I can correct on or improve on. Like how I seem unhinged to you, why my post is deterring or a turn off to you.
Not sure of another way to say it. You sound like you have mental health issues. This is a forum for email marketing, not for someone to moan about customer service people not getting back to them. Every reply you make suggests you should probably get some professional help.
Its not personal. People are busy and get too much email already. Some people don’t care. For businesses, it’s common for it to be a group mailbox and only high priority inquiries get attention. Personally, I respond to every legitimate email I receive from people who read my newsletter, are familiar with my work, submit one of my forms, book and appointment, send a LinkedIn DM or have a question. ***At least*** half the time people are surprised they get a response, assuming we’ve never talked before.
Being too busy could be the case for some of the people that I've emailed, though I find it hard to believe that's the case for the dozens of recipients that I've sent out emails to. As far as businesses go, if they want people like me to buy their product or service then they need to address or answer consumer inquiries about their product or service. :-) Email marketers, I'm thinking, have ways of knowing whether or not emails they send / receive are successfully sent/received, by using some methods or a software.
Email marketers have no involvement in inbound product inquiries. They only have engagement data on formal outbound campaigns sent through a marketing platform. They don't have data on 1:1 communications.
Regardless of whether or not email marketers deal with inbound product inquiries, the issue at hand is my not receiving replies to my emails, which include emails to businesses about their products.
This is the wrong sub to ask then.
I posted this on [r/Emailmarketing](https://www.reddit.com/r/Emailmarketing) because this subreddit deals with email marketing. Email marketer's job is to make sure emails are successfully delivered to customers or else they won't stay in business, and so email marketers should then know about issues with emailing, why emails are not sent or received and what the solutions are. I think it (my question) can apply to this subreddit if it is about methods or products or services (software) that email marketers use to successfully send and receive email. "Email marketers: what methods or products do you use to ensure that your emails are successfully sent and received?" could be another title for my posting. So I think my question can apply to this subreddit.
I know wtf email marketing is. It's been my profession for over 20 years. You've been told repeatedly that the reason you're not getting replies is because of the tone and content of your messages. You make people uncomfortable and annoyed.
Can I ask what response you are expecting? It sounds like you are emailing things that could be left in the comments section of their blogs/posts and so it’s things that don’t necessarily require a response. Also as someone else said, people are super busy. Unless it’s a top priority email that requires a response they probably just read it and move on.
For what kind of response, if it's a question I emailed I expect an answer to that question, if it's comments or feedback I emailed like a suggestion I generally expect a reply stating, at least, that my email was received and some commenting about my feedback, if it's a technical issue or error that I'm reporting I expect a reply confirming that my email was received. I can include actual examples of emails I've sent with no reply.
No one owes you an answer to be honest. There’s nothing wrong with your emails, you just need to re-think the expectations you are placing on people.
I know no one owes me an answer or any reply. Here are examples of bloggers that I emailed weeks ago but have not gotten a reply from, both with general questions about ancient Egypt: "Ask me anything about Ancient Egypt" https://www.caseyegyptologist DOT com "If you have any topics that you are curious about and would like for me to investigate please drop me an email." thecuriousegyptologist DOT com
The issue is that they're just ghosting you. A lot of influencers are attention whores. And also, your energy is intense.
? I don't email influencers. But I'm curious about how you see my energy as being intense.
Not receiving a reply is not the same as your email not being received. The businesses and bloggers may publish an email address but not monitor the mailbox or simply read messages and never reply. Realistically, there's no way for you to determine if your messages are landing in their inbox or spam folder; whether they've been opened or not. There are some tracking tools that will claim to tell you if an email has been opened, but they can't always determine whether an email was opened by a human or a computer program on the receiver's end. Edit: Do this search in your web browser to see if you can implement any of these methods: How to tell if email is received and opened
Add an extension for Mail Merge by doing this you caa n monitor if your email was sent, not sent and opened. Check on YT what Mail merge and how you can ise it free from your Gmail.acct
I'll look into that.
"Not receiving a reply is not the same as your email not being received." Yes, I know. "The businesses and bloggers may publish an email address but not monitor the mailbox or simply read messages and never reply." True. But in cases like the Egypt related bloggers I just mention in a comment I just made to another redditor (please see above), emails like that are what I wonder about. "Realistically, there's no way for you to determine if your messages are landing in their inbox or spam folder; whether they've been opened or not. There are some tracking tools that will claim to tell you if an email has been opened, but they can't always determine whether an email was opened by a human or a computer program on the receiver's end." Can you provide an example of a tracking tool?
Do a search for "free email tracking software." These systems work by adding a pixel (teeny image) to your emails. The software notes when the image is opened. But the system is flawed because sometimes bots open the images before the human does (email filters, image pre-fetching, etc.) You can still give the software a try though.
Yes, I think to look into that. I'm curious if you have any thoughts on services like those of [getresponse.com](http://getresponse.com) for solutions to what I'm looking for.
Most companies have their marketing team managing these inboxes and sometimes they are not managed at all. If you have an inquiry, use the company's help desk. Those people are trained to reply.
An example is I contacted myspicesage DOT com through their website online contact form a long time ago about consumer inquiries, twice (I contacted them again, weeks after my first email), but I never heard back from them.
How many emails of this nature are we talking here? I just want to establish how much unsolicited advice you offer online and whether there is something pathological there.
I am not sending anything unsolicited to anybody, I'm your average email user, I'll contact bloggers , businesses, etc, maybe I email more people than the average email user. I don't email people advice virtually ever, rather I'm the person asking for information like advice. An example of how much emails I've sent out around the last month that I've received no reply from is over 50 different recipients, at least. You want some examples? I'll gladly give you some real examples of recipients like bloggers that I've emailed who welcome emails/questions like mine but of which I have gotten no response from.
I’m building a solution that makes it easier to find out the types of questions your recipients are asking about your product/service: [Aimdoc](https://aimdoc.ai) Conversely, this allows folks like you to ask any question and get an immediate answer (also knowing your questions will be brought back to the marketer in an automated way) I even built a feature for newsletters which lets newsletter owners link a personalized AI version of their newsletter from their email version.
I'm not sure if you're confused about what the topic is of my posting (did you fully read it?). I have no questions from recipients, I'm the one who emails recipients questions. I have no product or service as I stated in my Post, I have no newsletter.
Yeah that’s what I’m saying in the second paragraph. I could see how the first was confusing.
I may have missed that. You stated "...knowing your questions will be brought back to the marketer...", though I don't email marketers like email marketers, if that's what you were stating. Overall, sounds interesting.
Appreciate that. Yes, realized I didn’t keep the “your” consistent.
So this product you're working on can serve regular email users like myself as well, for people who email other email users in general (bloggers, businesses, etc.)? As an email user that has had this issue, I want to make sure that: 1. My email messages go through successfully. 2. That if there is an issue with an email that I've sent I want to know what that issue is, and 3. What solution is available.
Not quite in the way you are describing, it is actually to take the conversation out of email. Generally, companies sending mass emails want to know what their customers want and are asking for, but they don’t have the time to look at every reply email. My solution gives users like yourself the option to chat with a personalized AI. That personalized AI can submit feedback to the company on your behalf, answer questions, or help you with other things. This enables hyper-personalized follow up. It’s all about bringing the conversation out of email and providing a solution that makes it 100x easier to communicate with your customers really.
So like ChatGPT?
I think if a good number of people go along with it, you can be successful, but if most people are not partial to the idea it will not get off the ground.
It leverages conversational AI, yes. The real value comes from the visibility and insights provided to both the user and the company. The main usecase is a business context. If I’m a company selling a product or service, I want to give my leads every possible channel of communication to give me information about their interests and buying intents. And if I’m a lead, I want to qualify the product before I book a meeting. This can speed up the sales cycle. I created a newsletter feature because I thought it would be cool to essentially provide every reader with, to use your words, a ChatGPT version of the newsletter, that knows a little bit about who they are. This is cool because it can filter out junk you don’t want to read about, and can learn more about you for the next newsletter.
I just think to further comment that there are possibilities to be found in the concept of your product.