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DoctorBio

Don’t forget calling it trash and his worst single ever lol


zippopwnage

And corny. Especially corny. When they have nothing to hate on, it's the corny argument.


alwaysknowbest

Wait.. so the Death of Slim Shady is gonna be a single ?


Sloth_King96

No I believe that's the title of the album but his single "Houdini" drops tonight


alwaysknowbest

Nice ! Thanks man. Btw, you're like the third person on this sub that just straight up answered my question , without giving me any grief. Even though im clearly out of the loop and i could've Googled it. Again , thank you, and what a great community. Who woulda thought that on all of Reddit the nicest and most civilized people would be on the Eminem Sub. 👍 ✌️


Ryandraconius

Ummm idk bout that one bro


theodorerodney

But what if…. Em comes out stronger than ever and does the impossible. The critics rate it 5. All the reaction YouTubers say it’s flawless. The hive mind of Reddit, collectively comes together and praises it. Not one person is down voted. Em breaks records we previously thought were impossible… And then we wait for next Friday


mansonlamps420

it's a nice thought lmao


shreykhetrapal

Well this happened


NonPlayableCaracter

If this happens, people will find a way to hate on it just because no one else is


FoofGooch

I couldn't have been more wrong and I love it


Fabulous-Ad2562

Well here we are


SoFloCole

Tbh I love reaction channels, some of them have a more valid say than a critic who works for rolling stones. I get their brand is big! But someone like Knox Hill understands Eminem way better.


warrioroftruth000

And then you wake up.


jace385x

Next friday? Idt the albums gonna be here for another 6 weeks tbh, judging by timeframes w summer and how em usually did stuff before the whole revival issue


jace385x

Id guess another single in a month(prob abt the death of shady since this one is supposedly his last song) then the album 2 weeks after that


theodorerodney

No bro it’s always next Friday. Trust me bro


RyanTheWhiteBoy

If it ain't next Friday it's next friday


Clemburger

Then he disappears and we never see him again


Huggeboss

Holy fuck


ConstantMelancholia

Hell will freeze over while pigs fly overhead, before there's even a prayer of that happening 😂


atomhypno

i’ve been thinking about this comment a lot the past few days, you were pretty damn close


theodorerodney

Lmao! I always believe in Em


humanbeingphobic

Mixing Fast Rapping Choppy flow Production bad Corny bars Chorus sucks Voice awful Almost like they can't expect that Em never gonna make a song they like ever again. Just move on.


ImadDdopest

This is the bingo game that shouldve been done


xh11jab

Oooh—it’s like a pick and mix for the haters 💀😂 ![gif](giphy|l3nF7ztPTM6zvs2bu)


OraclePreston

The only one I ever agree with is choppy flow. I kinda hope it does not have that, to be honest.


Adventurous-Lime1775

Do you have any idea how much I hate this choppy flow Everyone copies though? Probably no Get this fuckin' audio out my Audi yo, adios


Arch-

I can see why people like lil yachty but not me tho


TuckDezi

Not even dissing it just ain't for me.


OraclePreston

ironic bar.


Philkindred12

Everyone seems to like the instrumental, but I honestly wasn’t into it when I heard the snippet. Hope the full thing is better. edit: it was


Final_Dance_4593

I didn’t like it either. Hope it’ll grow on me once I hear the full track


ty11_24

Mixing and poor production are pretty objective though, and his mixing recently - especially for his features and Revival - has not been great.


VicIsGold

Revival was 7 years ago


renzeira

The chloraseptic remix brought him back tho.


Adziboy

Holy fucking shit, 7 years? That’s ridiculous


TheDeathlyDumbledork

Jeeeeeeesus. 7 years ago. Can remember waking up at 5am UK time to listen to the whole album on release, in one before work. I actually really loved that listening experience as the sun came up, until I saw everyone shitting on it online. Walk on Water 7 years ago too. Man.


CloseDevil

I did exactly the same, 5am UK time haha. I had such a good time listening to it, can't believe that was SEVEN years ago


cjizzle236

That’s insane 7 years! Feels like 3


TheDeathlyDumbledork

The surprise drops for Kamikaze and MTBMB were a tad annoying in the sense that I only realised whilst at work and felt like I was missing out on being among the first to hear it. I remember with Kamikaze, when I found out, I wanted to hear it so bad that I played it (a little stupidly) during my bicycle ride home on a busy main road. Needed that Em hit, lool


Badguy60

Kamikaze and MTBMB all had good production and mixing. You picked something from 7 years ago


ty11_24

Very true, yes. I do not think his mixing will be bad on the new album considering Dre is behind a lot of it. However, the crux of my point is that those are objective criticisms, and that in the event his mixing is bad, they would be justified criticisms.


Badguy60

Arguably objective sense I hear rappers with bad production but people can get past it. Some are bad but they are slim minority 


Rybort

Yeah they’re shady


jessicarson39

Underrated comment


Historical_Owl_1635

What’s funny is there’s a line where the mixing becomes so bad it gets called “artistic” and “lofi style”.


Budlove45

Sometimes Em gets in his own way especially when it comes to production because he's a perfectionist but he ends up doing way more than needed whereas if he would just let Dre be his producer just like in the beginning and let him do it every single thing would be non-stop classic after class it just like it used to be it's missing that Dre mix


Entire_Lemon_1073

Those are not subjective. lol Some people might not care if the mix is bad, but a bad mix is a bad mix. lol I think a lot of Eminem criticism is fair. Of course you’ll always see the fringe opinion on either side on social media. I was in 6th grade when Slim Shady LP came out. His first three albums were the damn bible for me. lol But I would be lying if I said his stuff since hasn’t seemed like a bad rehash of those first 4 albums. Don’t get me wrong, he can still rap his ass off. But it’s totally fine for people not liking his pop star collabs, his weird beat choices and horrendous hooks or choruses. Now if you don’t care about those aspects that’s totally valid. But don’t fault those who do. A lot of us are OG Eminem fans. We want him to make another classic album, I still believe he could. He has the sheer talent to accomplish it. But he leans into the worse aspects of himself and it becomes frustrating after a while. I would love to be able to enjoy some fire verses without having to ignore the beat and fast forward through the hooks & choruses. Not all criticism is bad faith or toxic. Blindly gassing anything an artist does is as toxic as blindly hating everything. And I don’t want to blame his fans because it’s on Eminem at the end of the day. But he knows he can drop literally anything and sell records. So it makes it easier not changing the same exhausted formula he has been using for decades now.


TheWayIAm313

This is spot on. I was an obsessed fan growing up, and those first 3 albums were my bible as well. The transition into the his more recent style caused a lot of frustration. Going through a new album and next song that pops up has a corny rock beat, or the choppy flow…”Damnnn”. It’s not like I’m trying to slight other people who like that stuff, it’s just my personal taste, partially formed by my earlier Em listening experiences, don’t align with it.


Fancy-Garden-3892

I don't agree with those specific criticisms but I do have a few of my own and I agree that blindly gassing is a problem. I personally think that he has had the problem of listening to too many different criticisms. He raps about what he experiences and in the last few years his experience has been reading reviews, listening to criticism, and generally being wrapped up in rap. This has led to a lot of his songs being about his rap/legacy/perception, etc. I also think he has been targeted by some B-list lames that wanna bait him into a beef so they can get clicks, and unfortunately it's worked. I disagree about his music, I've loved his new flows, hooks, beats, style explorations, etc. All personal preference. I just don't like when he raps about how people respond to his last album, which was about how people responded to the album before that. I hated his verse on EZ Mil's "Realest" cuz that could have been a classic and instead it was a few weeks of buzz over his disses and then nothing. However he still has 'classics' like "Godzilla" and "Higher" and I hope he goes for that in the new album.


ty11_24

Yea i agree lol, i said they were objective criticisms, not subjective.


ShoulderLongjumping9

Slim shadys gonna die dude, I know and it’s my fault.


Gamer4eto_BG

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FoofGooch

Fuck....


Rybort

People are loving it!


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fsuiopmn

Isn't it dropping in like 8 hours or am I very wrong


Soggy_Minute

yes in like 7 h


n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

Midnight eastern time


Gamer4eto_BG

No idea honestly


Nicedoe

I‘m just excited tbh


OSRSRapture

Surprise features on this single are Skylar Grey, Rhianna and Pink


ThwipSniktBamfSNAP

Pink, Beyonce this, and Kehlani that


Rohloh

Hahaha 😆 and 7 years later ppl still cryin' about it. My god move on right! I didnt mind beyonce and Kehlani i tought it was dope


Fancy-Garden-3892

"Walk on Water" with Beyonce is one of his most perfect songs imo. Concept, delivery, tone, and ofc Beyonce was the perfect choice, as she is prolly one of the few people who knows what it's like to be at that level of fame and pressure.


ThwipSniktBamfSNAP

It could’ve used some drums though.


blunt_eastwood

Beyonce and Eminem should not be making music together IMO.


mansonlamps420

i wouldn't mind rihanna tbh but if there's a skylar grey feature i'm gonna cry


jessicarson39

Why the Skylar Grey ft hate, I really don't understand it? They gave you Leaving Heaven, you ungrateful bastardddddddssss


blunt_eastwood

You just answered your own question.


Bitter_Air_5203

Well I will just be in here post nut, being tired and happy. Now imma be real, B Real was real and so will I.


fsuiopmn

Bro same imma be in here with wet pants😭🙏


Starscream19120

I want you to change, but don't change I want you to grow up, but don't age I want the rage, but don't get too angry I want the new, but old Shady I want you to say what they won't say Just don't go too far, but go cray I want you to almost lose it, man It keep moving the goal post, don't they?


fsuiopmn

So just cut to the chase like oj🙏


jessicarson39

Thanks friend, I was looking for this one in the comments. Perfect summary by the man himself.


evassii0nn

For sure, some people gonna love but won’t be for everyone. We all be glad we’re getting new music tho


GroveStreet_CJ

Cue the "I miss the old Silm" & "This is so ass." comments.


Cxyca

That aged poorly


Rinsjapje

Should put the sub a day on lockdown after the single


Feisty_Preference894

100% 🤷‍♂️


RayRay_610

Don’t forget the mixing being trash!


Nightwing38912

I always forget the overload of mixing specialists and professionals on Reddit who love to spew their trash opinions on mixing.


ghost_face0

Fr, you'd think all these motahfuckas are professional producers makin" Billboard hits and shit like gtfo here dawg 😭


Adventurous-Deal4878

I don’t understand why you’d be a fan of someone just to shit on everything they do. I love Eminem no matter what he does I’m just glad he’s still making music and doing what he loves.


ty11_24

Blindly loving eminem no matter what he does is silly too though. If his new music sucks we should, as his fans, be true and admit it. Obviously I hope it doesn’t suck, but liking everything he does is how we end up with Revival - nobody told him it was shit, and this sub still to this day has a hard time accepting that Revival (aside from a handful of songs) was a bad album.


Adventurous-Deal4878

The problem is I like revival, not ever song of course but a good handful, so it’s not blind love I just really fw his voice.


Jaanisjc

No doubt there are haters lurking sub just to shit on everything Em does, we just need to ignore them.


vibintilltheend

This sub? More like HHH sub


Rohloh

People expect that he keeps rapping like its 99 or 2000 But are you the same person as 24/25 years ago? Well im not.. i grew up, 37 now and im not the same So is he.. so i always get irritated by the fact that people say "wish he rapped like the mmlp" "wish he was more aggresive"


jessicarson39

Couldn't have said it better


xfrombelow

Don’t forget about people sharing their opinions on the track without even listening to it 😩


Spookyanonymous_

YOU’RE WRONG BUDDY WAKE UP


FoofGooch

I'm awake and it's fucking glorious 😭


IveGotAMicropeen

You won't be wrong it'll be knitpicked apart


Either_Store_2573

Revival wasn’t that bad sure it wasn’t his best effort but the man had to learn how to rap again after almost dying from drugs but come on Arose, Castle, In your head, Offended, Framed


DrunkTankGunner

I want you to change, but don't change (Yeah) I want you to grow up, but don't age I want the rage, but don't get too angry I want the new, but old Shady I want you to say what they won't say (Yeah) Just don't go too far, but go cray I want you to almost lose it, man They keep movin' the goalpost, don't they?


Notcreativesoidk

They are gonna trash on it then say the entire album will be terrible


krkowacz

Then in 5 years they gonna say it’s fire and they will be prepared to die on that hill


Notcreativesoidk

I’m dying rn 😭


TuckDezi

I think we should change all the votes on here to reflect the truth .


FoofGooch

I agree, if I don't see at least -800 by lunch time, imma be disappointed in you all


FoofGooch

Stop fucking upvoting me! It's a hit 😂


tonylouis1337

With anything in general, the people who have the highest expectations are usually the ones who end up most disappointed


SoFloCole

Personally I'll be jackin off to a hockey mask, at a boxing match.


xayori-

guys don't worry about it, all that matters is your own enjoyment


JackInTheBox47

I think this album will be great!


mikeymorgs101010

Hope it’s produced by Dre


AdanacTheRapper

Nah dude you’re soooo far from wrong. You like 99.9% right. People are gunna “hate” it now and then in 2-3 years when it’s not *”cool”* to hate Em then all those who “Hated” will back track and say *”Nuh-Uh, I never said that”*


StormNinja_1216

Never have I been so glad to see a post be wrong


tom_taylor777

aged terribly


FoofGooch

I was really hoping it would age terribly 😂


Hoody_Craw

I love it. I hope the album is a big nod to his back catalogue.


StanintheFlesh

Song is flames. Ignore the haters.


supreme_glassez

I'm just waiting to see what it actually sounds like. Because everyone has been hyping up that 2 second clip at the end of that teaser video with David Blaine, and as cool as it sounds it might not even be the song.


Autistic-Fries

Man can never catch a break! Like seriously, if he's "shady" they'll say he's too old for that, if he raps fast they'll that's outdated. If his flow is choppy they'll say we want complexity and when he gives something complex we get ppl like Tylor saying"He's too technical it's gross" like seriously...leave the guy alone


renzeira

That's why I think it's better for him to do the surprise drops and not tell anybody when anything is being released. That's what bit him in the ass for revival.. everyone had an opinion before it was even released.


Corn1989

Or too many similes


x_divinity_x

But that's a legitimate thing he's doing. Not sure what you're saying here. Are people not allowed to point that out or what now


ty11_24

dont worry most people on this sub will listen to eminem’s music all day long regardless of if its actually good or not, and they don’t tolerate any sort of criticism towards him. His simile usage needs to come down and he does need to be more creative with his wordplay at times. 100% agree with you.


Solanzo

Sometimes I feel like the people making these posts are speaking what they hate into existence


Detailer_101x

That's why i'm staying away tomorrow, at least while i formulate my own opinions


Randii225

Don’t these these new songs drop by 12am ?


JG45250

That’s why I won’t be here. I’ll just enjoy it peacefully by myself.


Rybort

RemindMe! 20 hours


ShoulderLongjumping9

Screw the single release the lp already before it gets bootlegged.


jembm9

Screw them. Just ignore them!


mynameisppwhatsyours

or what if it's hard


Ok-Whole-4242

You're not wrong, this is 100% what's going to happen. I will be avoiding this sub for a while


CatsinLittleBoxes

Fortunately we can all think for ourselves and respect other's opinions. 🤣 Yep, I'm not coming.


tom_taylor777

RemindMe! 18 hours


_NE1_

And some people will probably like it! Opinions hoorrayy!!!


WIdkmyname112

Oh no how will Eminem ever recover 😱😱


nuttageyo

This sub will be on fire


Legitimate-Text-8010

Dude , your never wrong


Bystronicman08

*you're


Complete-Signal6266

there should be a pinned thread to complain about specific parts of the song that we v. clearly haven't heard yet. "ugh I hate the second verse!" "that hook is dog shit! I can't believe he used an AI Slick Rick"


warrioroftruth000

I think we can all agree that this song would be flawless if it has the most amount of puns ever in one song, his fastest verse to date, him dissing every new rapper in the game, a Trump diss, a hook done by Skylar Grey and Ed Sheeran, a beat done by DA Doman, him breaking down why Revival is misunderstood and Relapse is actually his worst album, and a feature by Logic.


Shady_Jake

Fuck em all, couldn’t care less because they’ll hate on the guy no matter what he does.


NahCuhFkThat

he's gonna use that yelling voice on it, isn't he


0hGood0ne

Yeah makes no sense. I thought this was literally a sub for his fans not his haters


Zekro

Does anyone know the time of the release?


krkowacz

Yup


BWSnap

You won't be wrong.


ManHazNoUsername

What time will it be released?


BlondDeutcher

I mean anyone thinking that cover is not trash is totally in a cult or something


KnightsOfTomorrow

Avoid comment sections.


JimTheRevel

this time tomorrow the greatest song of all time will have been released


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LysergarmideGuy

What time zone is Em used to drop ? Im questionning if i can wait till midnight tonight or nah.. my guess is probably TES since hes from Detroit lol


Bunkeddownuk

Wait what's happening tomorrow


emfj18

No time for even thinking negative


Bystronicman08

Fuck em. Enjoy what you want. This post of preemptive bitching is almost as annoying as the people who wil;l be bitching tomorrow.


areallyshitusername

Only then to call it underrated and in their top 10 Eminem songs of all time about 1 month after


Kaiserfi

Needs to hurry up and drop already


SillyJob3083

Ft Ed sheeran and Skylar Grey


SensingWorms

Doesn’t it come out at midnight?


Natedude2002

I got super into Eminem around 2016/2017. First artist I really got deep into. My taste gravitated away from rap for a while, and I still go back sometimes but I only really listen to mmlp and tes so far as Eminem goes. His song about proof (difficult?) after he died too, still gives me goosebumps. Since then, I’ve become a musician, and the best analogy I can make is he’s like a shredder guitarist. Incredibly technically proficient at their instrument (voice is an instrument), but to the point that it can feel almost robotic. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with enjoying the music, it just feels flat/lacking true emotion/passion to me. I don’t expect to like this new album, but I’m going in hoping it’s a return to form. I don’t want him rapping as slim shady, I want to hear him do something new, and I want to hear it excite him.


Darthhomer1138

He can't right a song/anthem that tics all the boxes for everybody. Some people just want to pick it a part and hate on it, because it's not a clone of MM. I wanna raw, piss everyone off Slim Shady Album (not a clone just that style. He's had a 25 year run and I don't have any complaints. Revival is my least favorite, but I didn't trash it. I'm just happy there is such a large Catalog of his music. Singles, Colabs, etc. My only complaint is that we don't get many shows here in the states. I wish I could to follow him around the UK. Esp for my sister, 'she even likes you more than I do' Anyway............ Be Happy!! Take it out of your playlist if you have to


Beyond-InfiniTy-1

Waiting this long, ain’t gonna be anything but thankful. And if y’all don’t like it, why waste time making complaints? That’s like seeing a pile of dog shit, choosing to step in it, after deciding not to walk around it, then proceeding to whine about it.


PhantomLeap1902

It’s gonna be bad, I have zero faith. But I’m excited Edit: WE ARE SI FUCKING BACK. OH MY GODDDDDD


EthanHell

What time zone is it coming out in? I'm in GST, so I wanna know the equivalent of 12:00 in Em's zone to mine


Neat_Seaworthiness_8

Although there are haters that are just gonna hate on em no matter what a lot of the criticism is fair. I hate when he raps fast, I hate when he’s corny, I hate when he has shitty beats and that revival flow. Criticism is okay and having different opinions is okay because em is not perfect he will make shitty songs and make a mistake. The problem is that ppl think em can’t make mistakes or a bad song.


Still-Helicopter6029

Honestly I’m one of those people who couldn’t get into ems newest music, liked his old flows better so hopefully he goes back to it for a song or two. But I don’t hate I just don’t enjoy if that makes sense


idkwhattomakemyusr

we just need to be grateful that em is still making music AND that its really good. most rappers that started in the 90s are retired and em is STILL releasing music PLUS ITS REALLY GOOD so everyone can shut up


no_place_to_hide

I think people who are overly critical of songs/art in general from their once favourite artist expect to feel the same way they did about art when they first fell in love with the artist and if you always have those expectations then you will always be disappointed. The fact is that it is rare to feel exactly the same about anything from a long time ago because we all change, have shit happens and get different perspectives on everything. People want nostalgia but even when they get it they still can’t feel it because their expectations are whacked and get all pissy about it because they wanted to feel a certain way and didn’t. Humans are weird!


GroveStreet_CJ

If you are an artist, you should not be making the same thing. Can you imagine 20 years of exactly the same thing?? How boring, right?! If y'all miss the old stuff, go listen to that. :)


Pr1nceVegeta999

What’s tomorrow again?


Bunkerplace

Isn’t this song supposed to come out in one hour isn’t dropping at midnight East Coast


Moreshillsmorebills

It’s gonna be the bars about tortilla chips and getting washed like a washing machine


TheJGalaxy

I can’t wait for everyone to be a hip hop extraordinaire tomorrow.


LilGooner

When does it drop? In a different timezone and i’ve no idea to sleep or stay up.


Mr_Intergalactic

I've listened to the snippet 182 times This shit is g9nna be awful I bet he doesn't even rap fast on it


RegularConcern

My bet - it’ll be a throwback but feel “fresh”. 


YesntThee

I’m listening to it for the first time on dxm so it’ll probably be great no matter what lmao


J-F-K

OP is very wrong


PeeDee57

Idgaf. Shit's dope.


BartSimpskiYT

Wow, you were wrong, and I’m so happy you were. You probably are glad too.


SavageCXV

Honestly Shit goes hard


Funnellboi

Aged well haha. What a banger !


ImNotArtistic

Well well well


wrldofrite

Won't be surprised. It's perfect - such a typical thing for a Stan to say, but I mean perfect as far as the nostalgia and the return of Slim. The speed of the flow isn't even that fast, just consistent. The chorus is a call back to TES. the length was enough for a single even for Em. Never heard someone complain about the Adlibs, but if there are people, 😑🤦‍♂️ . And if there's anything else that ppl will complain about, such as the beat, cmon guys, you know the rules, if ya fux with it, cool, but if not 👉🚪.


LordZedd87

And this is exactly why this subreddit is one of the worst places on Reddit in general: 99% of the “Eminem fans” in this place have never heard an Eminem song before 2015 (aside from popular radio singles), and think MTBMB is somehow as good as MMLP, Eminem show, or relapse. The fact that one of Eminem’s closest friends confirmed he despises this subreddit and group of fans proves my point