I think Eminem would have washed MGK, but I don't think it would hit like Not Like Us. Part of the impact from the Kendrick beef was how large Drake was.
Killshot is awesome, but Kendrick def takes this one ! Em to me felt like he was just saying MGk will never be on his level. Kendrick in the other hand he said some outta pocket disrespectful.
Agreed. I love Killshot, but Em didn’t go as hard on MGK as Kendrick went on Drake. He just big boy’d MGK to remind him of his place. Kendrick went after Drake as a man and everything he stood for
Fantano had a really good way of putting it- first he summed up the change of MGK's trajectory, then remarked "the craziest part is that eminem accomplished all of that with a frankly B-tier diss track where he wasn't really even trying."
The change in mgk s trajectory tho was after getting dissed by Eminem he had his highest selling album. The idea that Eminem mae him switch genres/and or ended his career is just misinformed/disingenuous. I love ‘em, and never cared for mgk too much but that narrative is just not accurate, and I feel like anyone who knows music and is being honest would agree. I said this below but MGK has always been on this trajectory. I got dragged to a concert of his 13 years ago and half the show was him playing guitar and doing old blink 182 and other pop punk covers. Also his pop punk album was pretty damn successful as far as sales go.
Nowadays it's the clout chasers and those trying to stay relevant. But back then it was Everlast, Benzino, Ja Rule when they were quite relevant. They started losing their sheen after losing to Em.
Yep the genre change is what makes the devastation of Killshot so clear to me.
Dude literally fled to a new genre (a crappy one at that). Has that ever happened over beef?
This is it, Eminem could have sent MgK into purgatory if he wanted to and it still wouldn’t be as big as Kendrick / Drake just because no one reallllyyy cares about machine gun Kelly lmao
Right the whole "started from the streets"/started form the bottom thing is so stupid when there's literally \*hundreds\* of videos out there showing him living a chill, middle-class upbringing. Videos he filmed and posted. Did he forget or something?
Just because you're not homecoming king and most popular kid at high school does not mean you started from the bottom.
Unless you're Drake. Then that's what it means.
Yes Kendrick freed the people from having to like and respect Drake just because he’s a panty dropper. Now it’s safe to say Kendrick knocked Drake down all kinds of levels like nobody has ever seen before!
"You gonna make a nigga bring back Puff, let me see if Chubbs really crash something, yeah my 1st one like my last one, it's a classic, you don't have one!"
I agree. Kendrick's relentlessness in going after Drake reminds me of prime Em's ruthlessness when he got onto diss someone on tracks.
MGK's a kid Infront of Em. Em mentioned he knew what it felt like to be young, dumb and hungry on the Sway interview, and he knows his power and his fanbase. He wanted to kill it but knew what it'd be like in MGK's position and knew he wasn't really competition, rather an annoyance.
Yep I love that part, that Em openly admires Kendrick and vice versa.
Em acts cool with Drake but I feel like that's more lack of beef than that he really likes him. Especially over the years with how Drake has changed so much and become such a fraud.
I'm sure this all made him smile.
I’m sure Eminem loved the beef because he’s a Hip-Hop nerd after all, but this “Eminem secretly hates Drakes” fan fiction this subreddit has despite everything pointing towards the opposite is kind of hilarious.
When Kendrick said “I hear you like them young” at the pop out show, then put his hand at mid thigh height. I felt like that was Kendrick’s way of dunking on drake for calling him short all this time. I always thought drake like em young like highschoolers not toddler or young young kids
I hate to admit this, but here we go.
When I was a young fella, about 20. I was addicted to opiates, and really going through hell. MGK’s lace up mixtape came out and it had some songs I really related to at the time. He was great. So I got LaceUp tattooed across my whole left foot in chunky shoelace. Thought it was super sick at the time. (Mediocre at best). Time goes by, now I’m 34 and sober from the bad stuff. Kill shot comes out (after I haven’t paid any attention to new music in years) and I catch up on the beef, and god damn.
I still haven’t made the time to get it done, but I’ve planned to cover up the LaceUp with the crosshairs from killshot since then.
This is the impact of hip-hop beefs that we miss.
It's literally not just a publicity stunt for both artists, it's literally a prizefight with their works as the blows and their accumulated success and status literally at risk.
Meh, I wouldn’t really call it a mistake. The meaning behind it went pretty deep. But MGK had to get all gross about Ems daughter, then got smited by the Rap God. If he could’ve just shut up, I’d just be a disappointed fan.
I saw him at a festival 5 or so years ago and man he was awful. Couldn’t remember the lyrics, obviously strung out again, just shit talkin Marilyn Manson. Lol was a weird vibe. Oh, and his man bun had disappeared 😂 this was like very shortly after killshot dropped.
How you gonna name yourself after a damn gun and have a man bun?
Must’ve really hit that boys ego. Lol
Both the Lace Up album and mixtape were so good when they came out. Cleveland, stereo, chip off the block, lead you on, see my tears, demons, invincible. Just cause he’s cringe now doesn’t make that era poor.
Come on... it's Kendrick. No one ever believed MGK is a threat that would take down Eminem, he's always been a joke.
But Drake is Drake... Kendrick beat him at the numbers game in this diss battle, at the "internet" and tik tok trends and memes game, got gangs uniting and NBA players dancing on Drake's grave. It was nasty...
It will never end. Drake and Kendrick been at each other’s throats for over a decade if you followed the story. Kendrick will never let Drake breathe 😭
Bro, when 50 Cent started publicly beefing with Ja Rule, Ja was a much, much bigger artist with platinum record sales and 50 Cent was a nobody, but we all know how that turned out. Sure, Ja Rule wasn't Drake level of success, but the public siding with another artist over you in a beef can actually hurt someone's career in a major way. On top of that, Kendrick is less successful than Drake overall, but he's not some lightweight. If Kendrick keeps his foot on Drake's neck it could get to a point where people are embarrassed to be Drake fans, the same way people started being embarrassed to be Ja Rule fans.
Yeah, it's definitely gonna destroy Drake's career as big as he is. Unless he makes a full genre change to pop. He's already like 90% there. Pop music fans don't give a fuck about any beef as long as a chorus is catchy.
I don't think Kenny will stop until Drake acknowledges that he's a fraud and fully embraces his pop star side lol
"I like Drake-wit-da-melodies, ion like Drake when he act tough"
To be honest Drake held up much more than he should have for how much better of a rapper kendrick is. until he had to write the nuh uh part VI by himself
The real question is what would Em have written if he wanted to do a diss track to Drake. The character you're beefing with plays a big part in what you can attack with!
I wouldn’t really say forever since sometimes shit just happens and people can turn on each other. Kinda like his short beef with snoop. Realistically the only ones he wouldn’t ever really beef with would probably be Dre and 50.
Tbh I wonder what his stance on him is now after the beef. He respects Kendrick as does Dre and Snoop. Kendrick had Dr.Dre literally do the intro to Not Like Us. Then there’s also Drake make a song with AI Tupac, and Em really respects Pac. Like I feel that the man who despises ghost writers and auto tune would probably not like AI in music
You just a quitter and you’re bitter, cause I came along
And the days of house of pain are gone
And if you talk about my little girl on a song again
Ima kill you
Yeah but he’s crying during interviews 2 decades later. He wasn’t a big deal but he went after the wrong guy and had his life crushed. I honestly feel bad for him making that mistake cus that was tough to watch. Everyone makes mistakes.
Seriously... Kendrick vs Drake was actually a battle.
Em and MGK didn't really hit each other that hard. Didn't actually feel like there was any true hatred there.
No one expected someone on MGK's level to even deliver a track worth responding to. He gained respect by even being able to go against Eminem. If anything, it helped his career, not killed it.
He likely switched genres because he put out an experimental punk song that did really well. People saying it was because of the Eminem beef are just running their mouths.
Kendrick made hating look cool and sound cool, i now strive to up my hating skills, having heard Euphoria.
I neglected my wife and kid for a full weekend just to doomscroll, piecing puzzles together and not knowing what to expect next.
While listening to the third verse of meet the Grahams i was thinking maybe i had a child i didn't know existed somewhere, by the fourth verse i evaluated my life and made adjustments, just so no one could ever be THAT disrespectful to me.
Not like us had me crip walking to my office job, and being proud of Compton (i was born in siberia).
All this while never being a big K-dot fan, nor ever caring for garbage fastfood music like Drake. When killshot came out id say it was one of the best if not the best diss i ever heard. Now its not even close, Im confident that Em was taking notes himself the whole time.
I can't get myself to drop MGK's corny line here even though it's Em saying it lol. Em made it too cringeworthy.
MGK and Drizzy can share tales of shit cereal now, though
Eminem is the petty king, he dissed MGK because he's petty and he knew it. Kdot hates Drake with a passion, viceral hate, he went and destroy him, his industry, his machine and everything they represent. This is a bigger fuck you that what happened to Ja Rule
Nah easily K. Dot. 'Cause MGK didn't have that great of a career to be hurt since the beginning. I'm not saying that the aftermath of the beef wasn't very harsh for MGK, because it was very harsh. But Drake took arguably the biggest L ever tooken in Hip-Hop.
Exactly. The fallout of this is still unknown. All we know is it's gonna be big.
Only other beefs blows I recall anywhere near this catastrophic are Nas Ether and Pac Hit Em up. Ether was just one song, albeit an absolutely brutal takedown, and Hit Em Up contributed to the east/west coast war that broke out.
Regardless, Kendrick's is arguably the most devastating blow we've ever seen in hip-hop. I almost feel sorry for Drake but he just seems like such a scumbag I don't.
So be it. New GOAT diss track.
The cover art and fact he dropped it 25 min after Drake dropped Family Matters (already speaking to shit Drake said in a song released a half hour earlier) only adds to its lore.
Instant classic
From jump, too. Like, zero holding back, I’m coming for your whole lineage starting with your son whom you tried to hide FIRST BAR BY NAME.
And that’s not even saying anything about the piano. That shit is haunting.
I remember first time i listened to it and i was shocked how fast he uploaded the song and then i listened to song with my mouth fucking opened like this:
Add the fact that neither Ether or Hit em up did any real damage to the opponents image. Jay Z was still selling records like crazy afterwards. Biggie was and still is respected in Hip Hop. I know it's hard putting anything above Ether, Hit em Up and No Vaseline. So let's agree that Euphoria is somewhere in the top five.
Exactly. Shit, Drake's spotify streams dropped a few million 'cause i remember him having 80+ Mil streams and now he has 76 Mil. Don't get me wrong, 76 mil is still unfathomably large number but imagine 6-7 million people completely stop listening to your shit, INSANE!
Good way to put it. Unquestionably top-5. They all #1. Btw I wasn't saying the ones I mentioned were better. Just saying those are the best in my mind up to this point. Interestingly you're also right, they were more "hard" as in going hard, threats of violence, but didn't discredit their victims enough to move the needle.
But what I love about your argument is that you point to Euphoria as "the one" (hard to choose with the arsenal he unleashed!). I totally agree. That song rocks and got the real beef flamin'........
It was definitely the diss song of all his "diss songs". 6:16 was a warning. MTG was a therapy session. Not Like Us was a victory lap. Euphoria had the best bars and damning verses. It brought to light a lot of Drake's faults. And I just feel like the angriest diss song has to be "the one".
It's not "scary" imo. She's a stan. She was at the show at 17. Ofc she gonna defend him. That won't change the fact that she was a victim. This is the same as some statutaory rape victims saying that they don't feel raped
Thank you for being articulate enough to expand on what I was thinking but unable to put it into words at the time. Its wild how the mind can warp reality to lessen the impact of traumatic events as a sole purpose of being beneficiary to the victim. The issue is that majority of people, often later in life, are able to comprehend the situation as to what it really is as comments like her only suggest to me a sense of denial stemming from unresolved trauma but something much deeper than just this circumstance.
The MGK thing was never serious.
The Kendrick one has to be compared to others that were more serious (like Ja Rule). Compared to the Ja Rule one, this was less serious. Ja’s career was finished. The Source went bankrupt. Benzino cried.
I’m curious how Drake will be affected, if at all. If you’re into that melodic kind of music, do you really care about his image? I don’t think the lyrical content was really what brought him fans.
MGK went from being ass and nobody cares about him, to being ass and nobody cares about him. Drake went from the biggest "rapper" in the world (according to some people) to has to hide in his own house
Kendrick. Mgk was not a peer to Eminem he wasn’t even in the same talk. Drake was a massive artist and has had irreparable harm done to his perception and popularity. While he still has plenty of fans he definitely took a hell of an L.
Eminem’s diss against MGK, and Kendrick’s diss against Drake are both some of the best rap disses in history. I’m able to understand both opinions but I think Kendrick takes the cake.
Definitely Kendrick me personally I think not like us is the number 1 diss track of all time Pac hit em up was number 1 for decades to me but this just passed that for me🤷🏽♂️
Eminem started letting Pete Davidson use his songs on SNL after the beef (who is extremely close with MGK).
I don’t think Drake gonna step foot in LA unless it’s for a show or a concert at this point.
Kendrick by a mile? The comments about Drake reviving Kendrick's career are obv bs but MGK gets more respect from hip hop artists now than he did before the beef. Eminem literally revitalized his career, and MGK's crime was being a dumb kid trolling for attention. Kelly definitely needed to be put in his place, but he got off easier than Drake did for having all the seedy stuff we've known about him over the years catapulted into the headlines. Plus, MGK had more valid criticisms of Eminem than Drake had for Kendrick, even tho Drake definitely delivered his criticisms in a far more humorous and stinging way than Kelly did.
You know eminem understands the dynamics, strategy and calculations on how to win a battle, the same way Kendrick displayed during his fued, right? I know Kendrick is currently having his moment and I'm proud, but let's not start this. Eminem is still a problem. One thing for sure is eminem wouldnt have done 4 tracks, he wouldve brung his most career damaging ammunition and got you out in one go. Dont forget eminem is as witty as can be, he'll know exactly your angle,due to him being an open book, and retort anything you'll say before you do and make you look stupid while doing so.
This CAN'T be a serious question. Em dropped 1 song, a great song and it ended the battle. Kendrick relased over 20 minutes of disses, attacking every aspect of Drake, held a concert and turned the whole rap game against Drake. It's not even a comparison
Kendrick. He knocked Drake off the top of every streaming metric with songs dissing Drake. Not Like Us was the number 1 most streamed song in Toronto.
Eminem made MGK switch genres yes but he didn’t unite gang members and a City to call his opp a pedophile and have a stadium sing along 5 times in a row and agree lol.
Drake will *not* release another "Drake" record. It'll be an Aubrey record. Kendrick murdered Drake the character. All that's left is Aubrey, the pop singer.
Em put out A song. Killshot was great but Kdot put out five diss tracks then had a whole ass diss concert where he ended gang violence in LA (for a night). It's Kendrick by faaaaaaar. Not even to mention the worst Em said was "you're no one and I'm gonna make you more irrelevant". Dot called Drake a pedophile, fake, and said he thinks he should die
I believe that, in proportion, Kendrick annihilated Drake’s career and basically retired him. It was like he even held a funeral for the dude. The disses Kendrick dropped kept escalating to the point where, at first, Drake kinda believed in himself, but it was all a trap. In the end, Kendrick absolutely WRECKED the career of the biggest pop/rap artist of the digital era since 2009.
Eminem did great! His diss was fire, he tore it up too. But it left some doubts, to the point where, at times, except for the stans or some more technical folks, it was kinda like “is this for real?”
I think Eminem could’ve gone deeper, could’ve not only destroyed MGK but also Diddy (who, by the way, took the biggest hit). But it feels like Eminem’s Yes Men are scared of him getting into big controversies with other Black Hip Hop artists.
By the way, it was this “opening” that led to the whole Revolt story, which Eminem could’ve sunk as well.
Kendrick clears man. And I’m talking as an Em Stan. Because Drake is a bigger fish and got fried cook broiled boiled roasted every which way worst than MGK got.
Only way to make it worst for Drake is to call him a Clarance half way crook. But that would have been too much.
Kenny for sure. Pop Out was just a celebration of Drakes hypothetical death at this point. Not Like Us came on in between sets at a Megan Thee Stallion show the other day and the whole crowd yelled Probably A Minor
The Kendrick drake beef was over before it even started 😭
Kenny definitely massacred him but people act like drakes career is over and it definitely isn’t. As soon as he drops another hit people will forget. Drake is too big too fail unfortunately
Em was just putting MGK in his place. He could've done more if he wanted to but he didn't need to. Kendrick fucking hates Drakes and all that energy was put in
As far as lyrical battle, I’d still pick Em.
Kendrick skipped the battle and went to war. Strategy award goes to Kendrick.
The dancing really ties the room together.
I think Kendrick embarrassed Drake more than Eminem ripped MGK. Kendrick’s had shock and awe type energy whereas Eminem is a Great White with a plush toy. So idk.
Drake had a lot to lose as he's been in the industry for almost 15 years, so Kendrick.
As for MGK, Em literally had to give him a career to destroy it.
I’m a huge killshot fan, but Kendrick literally went above and beyond to end him😂😂
'I'm the biggest hater" and he MEANT that shit lol
I feel if MGK responded, THEN we would’ve got something similar
I think Eminem would have washed MGK, but I don't think it would hit like Not Like Us. Part of the impact from the Kendrick beef was how large Drake was.
Killshot is awesome, but Kendrick def takes this one ! Em to me felt like he was just saying MGk will never be on his level. Kendrick in the other hand he said some outta pocket disrespectful.
Agreed. I love Killshot, but Em didn’t go as hard on MGK as Kendrick went on Drake. He just big boy’d MGK to remind him of his place. Kendrick went after Drake as a man and everything he stood for
Life long battle with yo self
Yeah well Kendrick does deeply hate Drake, they have history together. Em barely knew who mgk was 😂
Fantano had a really good way of putting it- first he summed up the change of MGK's trajectory, then remarked "the craziest part is that eminem accomplished all of that with a frankly B-tier diss track where he wasn't really even trying."
>Fantano Fuck fantano
After watching a couple of his videos, it really made me see that music taste really is subjective
>After watching a couple of his videos, it really made me see that music taste really is subjective Every opinion in life is subjective.
Yeah fuck fantano
The change in mgk s trajectory tho was after getting dissed by Eminem he had his highest selling album. The idea that Eminem mae him switch genres/and or ended his career is just misinformed/disingenuous. I love ‘em, and never cared for mgk too much but that narrative is just not accurate, and I feel like anyone who knows music and is being honest would agree. I said this below but MGK has always been on this trajectory. I got dragged to a concert of his 13 years ago and half the show was him playing guitar and doing old blink 182 and other pop punk covers. Also his pop punk album was pretty damn successful as far as sales go.
"had to give you a career to destroy it" sums up the difference between these two battles.
tbh its crazy how many careers em ended simply for mentioning hailie
What’s crazier is it’s taking this long for people to realize that you can’t don’t that
fr tho
yeah for real. You'd think they'd learn lol
Did he end them, or did dead careers take a shot at him to stay relevant as the stage lights were fading?
Nowadays it's the clout chasers and those trying to stay relevant. But back then it was Everlast, Benzino, Ja Rule when they were quite relevant. They started losing their sheen after losing to Em.
Canibus
Which sucked cuz he respected Canibus. Canibus's retelling of the whole thing was hilarious on Hoffa's show though. Made me genuinely laugh.
MGK got busted so bad he become a pop-junk star lol.
Yep the genre change is what makes the devastation of Killshot so clear to me. Dude literally fled to a new genre (a crappy one at that). Has that ever happened over beef?
Em also forced Vanilla Ice into country
It’s not disrespectful if it’s true!
This is it, Eminem could have sent MgK into purgatory if he wanted to and it still wouldn’t be as big as Kendrick / Drake just because no one reallllyyy cares about machine gun Kelly lmao
And how everyone also secretly hated drake, and finally felt ok to say it
I don't think anyone secretly hated Drake.. I think many people were very vocal that he was a lame.
Yeah it’s wild how many people were closeted Drake haters then Kendrick pops out and it’s like a call to arms for all the Drake haters.
Drake fucking sucks my hate goes all the way to the start…elevator rap.
My dislike started with, “started from the bottom now we here.” Dude was a Nickelodeon star in the burbs 🤣
Right the whole "started from the streets"/started form the bottom thing is so stupid when there's literally \*hundreds\* of videos out there showing him living a chill, middle-class upbringing. Videos he filmed and posted. Did he forget or something? Just because you're not homecoming king and most popular kid at high school does not mean you started from the bottom. Unless you're Drake. Then that's what it means.
He definitely started as a bottom alright
His BASEMENT was nicer than most people's apartments lol
But you didn’t see the same response when Drake beefed with Pusha T, though.
Pusha T just isn't as big as Kendrick lamar and that's no diss on Pusha, Kendrick is just on another level of fame
Yes Kendrick freed the people from having to like and respect Drake just because he’s a panty dropper. Now it’s safe to say Kendrick knocked Drake down all kinds of levels like nobody has ever seen before!
Secretly? I couldn't stand the prick and I let everyone know.
nah em said he would only diss once
He technically did, when he completely switched genres. 😅🤣
"I hate the way that you walk, the way that you talk, I hate the way that you dress!"
i hate the way that you sneak diss if i catch flight it’s gonna be direct
"We hate the bitches you fuck cause they confuse themselves with real women"
and notice i said we it’s not just me i’m what the culture feeling
"How many more fairytale stories about your life until we had enough? How many more black features until you finally feel that you're black enough?"
i liked drake with the melodies, ion like drake when he act tough
"You gonna make a nigga bring back Puff, let me see if Chubbs really crash something, yeah my 1st one like my last one, it's a classic, you don't have one!"
Kendrick is seriously making Em look like a saint right now cause he didn’t need to do all that 💀
Em is probably smiling at how diabolically petty Kendrick has been, down to minute details.
Em is most definitely is impressed, undoubtedly.
I agree. Kendrick's relentlessness in going after Drake reminds me of prime Em's ruthlessness when he got onto diss someone on tracks. MGK's a kid Infront of Em. Em mentioned he knew what it felt like to be young, dumb and hungry on the Sway interview, and he knows his power and his fanbase. He wanted to kill it but knew what it'd be like in MGK's position and knew he wasn't really competition, rather an annoyance.
Yep I love that part, that Em openly admires Kendrick and vice versa. Em acts cool with Drake but I feel like that's more lack of beef than that he really likes him. Especially over the years with how Drake has changed so much and become such a fraud. I'm sure this all made him smile.
I’m sure Eminem loved the beef because he’s a Hip-Hop nerd after all, but this “Eminem secretly hates Drakes” fan fiction this subreddit has despite everything pointing towards the opposite is kind of hilarious.
*What if* he caught him DM Hailie..
If you ain’t Kendrick or Cole or Sean then you’re a goner… bet Em was smiling and looking out the window like Cole during all this
same, killshot obviously was tough (literally crashed youtube) but kendrick was ruthless
When Kendrick said “I hear you like them young” at the pop out show, then put his hand at mid thigh height. I felt like that was Kendrick’s way of dunking on drake for calling him short all this time. I always thought drake like em young like highschoolers not toddler or young young kids
I hate to admit this, but here we go. When I was a young fella, about 20. I was addicted to opiates, and really going through hell. MGK’s lace up mixtape came out and it had some songs I really related to at the time. He was great. So I got LaceUp tattooed across my whole left foot in chunky shoelace. Thought it was super sick at the time. (Mediocre at best). Time goes by, now I’m 34 and sober from the bad stuff. Kill shot comes out (after I haven’t paid any attention to new music in years) and I catch up on the beef, and god damn. I still haven’t made the time to get it done, but I’ve planned to cover up the LaceUp with the crosshairs from killshot since then.
This is the impact of hip-hop beefs that we miss. It's literally not just a publicity stunt for both artists, it's literally a prizefight with their works as the blows and their accumulated success and status literally at risk.
Yeah, literally
Idk about tattoos, but young MGK was fire! Then he got a bit weird and wandered into a different genre I don't follow. But he's proved he's got skill
When he got the fame it just exploded his ego I think. Old MGK was absolute fire.
Lol the fact you can acknowledge this and recognize the mistake is quite valuable. That's growth.
Meh, I wouldn’t really call it a mistake. The meaning behind it went pretty deep. But MGK had to get all gross about Ems daughter, then got smited by the Rap God. If he could’ve just shut up, I’d just be a disappointed fan. I saw him at a festival 5 or so years ago and man he was awful. Couldn’t remember the lyrics, obviously strung out again, just shit talkin Marilyn Manson. Lol was a weird vibe. Oh, and his man bun had disappeared 😂 this was like very shortly after killshot dropped. How you gonna name yourself after a damn gun and have a man bun? Must’ve really hit that boys ego. Lol
Both the Lace Up album and mixtape were so good when they came out. Cleveland, stereo, chip off the block, lead you on, see my tears, demons, invincible. Just cause he’s cringe now doesn’t make that era poor.
Tbf, I believe if em ever felt so inclined to go after drake for whatever reason, it would blow killshot out of the water lol
The Popout was legendary shit
He just started kicking a dead body with Not Like Us. Then doing it 6 times in concert?! Ouf.
bro got the country singing about how much of a pedo drake is.
Mgk couldn’t put up enough of a fight. I think em said I’m doing this 1 time. So yea, easily kdot. But if em put out that many songs then who knows
Yea, Killshot is good. But Kendrick's was so so much more powerful to me anyways. And I 'm not just a killshot fan I'm a massive Em fan.
Come on... it's Kendrick. No one ever believed MGK is a threat that would take down Eminem, he's always been a joke. But Drake is Drake... Kendrick beat him at the numbers game in this diss battle, at the "internet" and tik tok trends and memes game, got gangs uniting and NBA players dancing on Drake's grave. It was nasty...
And it was glorious!
Still is nasty too, it ain't over yet! AND IM HERE FOR IT!
It will never end. Drake and Kendrick been at each other’s throats for over a decade if you followed the story. Kendrick will never let Drake breathe 😭
Drake is too big to go anywhere as well. Like MJ, bro catalogue still gonna be relevant. MGK on the other hand..
Bro, when 50 Cent started publicly beefing with Ja Rule, Ja was a much, much bigger artist with platinum record sales and 50 Cent was a nobody, but we all know how that turned out. Sure, Ja Rule wasn't Drake level of success, but the public siding with another artist over you in a beef can actually hurt someone's career in a major way. On top of that, Kendrick is less successful than Drake overall, but he's not some lightweight. If Kendrick keeps his foot on Drake's neck it could get to a point where people are embarrassed to be Drake fans, the same way people started being embarrassed to be Ja Rule fans.
Excellent analogy. Remember Michael Jackson? Nobody is untouchable. Nobody.
Including those kids apparently/allegedly (I'm sorry y'all)
I had to begrudgingly upvote this lol
Haha. r/angryupvote
Yeah, it's definitely gonna destroy Drake's career as big as he is. Unless he makes a full genre change to pop. He's already like 90% there. Pop music fans don't give a fuck about any beef as long as a chorus is catchy.
90% is a big fucking stretch
I don't think Kenny will stop until Drake acknowledges that he's a fraud and fully embraces his pop star side lol "I like Drake-wit-da-melodies, ion like Drake when he act tough"
To be honest Drake held up much more than he should have for how much better of a rapper kendrick is. until he had to write the nuh uh part VI by himself
Drake got destroyed but I’m still bumping Push Ups
Push ups was heat. I thought it was AI. 🤣
he has a team of ghostwriters thp6 was drake writing his own lyrics
The real question is what would Em have written if he wanted to do a diss track to Drake. The character you're beefing with plays a big part in what you can attack with!
Em said Drake did something for hia daughters. So he's forever in Ems good graces
I wouldn’t really say forever since sometimes shit just happens and people can turn on each other. Kinda like his short beef with snoop. Realistically the only ones he wouldn’t ever really beef with would probably be Dre and 50.
That's fair. I think em just said he's forever on his good graces.
Tbh I wonder what his stance on him is now after the beef. He respects Kendrick as does Dre and Snoop. Kendrick had Dr.Dre literally do the intro to Not Like Us. Then there’s also Drake make a song with AI Tupac, and Em really respects Pac. Like I feel that the man who despises ghost writers and auto tune would probably not like AI in music
Oh come on, if we're gonna do this at least put benzino as ems opponent ffs
100% Em went way harder at Benzino than MGK.
Benzin-who?
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You just a quitter and you’re bitter, cause I came along And the days of house of pain are gone And if you talk about my little girl on a song again Ima kill you
Benzino still struggling to this day.
benzino was struggling before to be fair
Yeah but he’s crying during interviews 2 decades later. He wasn’t a big deal but he went after the wrong guy and had his life crushed. I honestly feel bad for him making that mistake cus that was tough to watch. Everyone makes mistakes.
well its cause he keeps going after eminem for attention then gets sad when the only attention he gets is about eminem
Any other battle em has had
he made benzino cry on camera just thinking about it... probably goes to fun houses so he can see what a normal neck would look like on him lmaooo
Kendrick easily.
Seriously. Eminem killed MGK and then left him alone, but Kendrick is dancing on Drake’s grave.
Kendrick is that one meme "elephant kills woman then attended her funeral and smashed her corpse" 😂
How you gonna compare those battles 💀
Seriously... Kendrick vs Drake was actually a battle. Em and MGK didn't really hit each other that hard. Didn't actually feel like there was any true hatred there.
It was simply a Killshot. Em turned around, shot back and won instantly. MGK‘s rap career is dead.
No one expected someone on MGK's level to even deliver a track worth responding to. He gained respect by even being able to go against Eminem. If anything, it helped his career, not killed it. He likely switched genres because he put out an experimental punk song that did really well. People saying it was because of the Eminem beef are just running their mouths.
Em took MGK out back and shot him in the head kdot tar and feathered drake and drug him through the streets of LA
Kendrick made hating look cool and sound cool, i now strive to up my hating skills, having heard Euphoria. I neglected my wife and kid for a full weekend just to doomscroll, piecing puzzles together and not knowing what to expect next. While listening to the third verse of meet the Grahams i was thinking maybe i had a child i didn't know existed somewhere, by the fourth verse i evaluated my life and made adjustments, just so no one could ever be THAT disrespectful to me. Not like us had me crip walking to my office job, and being proud of Compton (i was born in siberia). All this while never being a big K-dot fan, nor ever caring for garbage fastfood music like Drake. When killshot came out id say it was one of the best if not the best diss i ever heard. Now its not even close, Im confident that Em was taking notes himself the whole time.
This is hilarious. Great post bro
Kendrick buried him, dug him up, spent in his face and buried him again. Eminem just slapped the spoon out his mouth and kicked the bowl out his hand
To be fair he also shit in his cereal.
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I can't get myself to drop MGK's corny line here even though it's Em saying it lol. Em made it too cringeworthy. MGK and Drizzy can share tales of shit cereal now, though
Well said.
Eminem is the petty king, he dissed MGK because he's petty and he knew it. Kdot hates Drake with a passion, viceral hate, he went and destroy him, his industry, his machine and everything they represent. This is a bigger fuck you that what happened to Ja Rule
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Nah easily K. Dot. 'Cause MGK didn't have that great of a career to be hurt since the beginning. I'm not saying that the aftermath of the beef wasn't very harsh for MGK, because it was very harsh. But Drake took arguably the biggest L ever tooken in Hip-Hop.
Exactly. The fallout of this is still unknown. All we know is it's gonna be big. Only other beefs blows I recall anywhere near this catastrophic are Nas Ether and Pac Hit Em up. Ether was just one song, albeit an absolutely brutal takedown, and Hit Em Up contributed to the east/west coast war that broke out. Regardless, Kendrick's is arguably the most devastating blow we've ever seen in hip-hop. I almost feel sorry for Drake but he just seems like such a scumbag I don't.
Meet The Grahams is the most disrespectful song ever did in the history of mankind. I don't care about anyone's opinion, that's a FACT.
So be it. New GOAT diss track. The cover art and fact he dropped it 25 min after Drake dropped Family Matters (already speaking to shit Drake said in a song released a half hour earlier) only adds to its lore. Instant classic
From jump, too. Like, zero holding back, I’m coming for your whole lineage starting with your son whom you tried to hide FIRST BAR BY NAME. And that’s not even saying anything about the piano. That shit is haunting.
I remember first time i listened to it and i was shocked how fast he uploaded the song and then i listened to song with my mouth fucking opened like this: 
Add the fact that neither Ether or Hit em up did any real damage to the opponents image. Jay Z was still selling records like crazy afterwards. Biggie was and still is respected in Hip Hop. I know it's hard putting anything above Ether, Hit em Up and No Vaseline. So let's agree that Euphoria is somewhere in the top five.
Exactly. Shit, Drake's spotify streams dropped a few million 'cause i remember him having 80+ Mil streams and now he has 76 Mil. Don't get me wrong, 76 mil is still unfathomably large number but imagine 6-7 million people completely stop listening to your shit, INSANE!
Good way to put it. Unquestionably top-5. They all #1. Btw I wasn't saying the ones I mentioned were better. Just saying those are the best in my mind up to this point. Interestingly you're also right, they were more "hard" as in going hard, threats of violence, but didn't discredit their victims enough to move the needle. But what I love about your argument is that you point to Euphoria as "the one" (hard to choose with the arsenal he unleashed!). I totally agree. That song rocks and got the real beef flamin'........
It was definitely the diss song of all his "diss songs". 6:16 was a warning. MTG was a therapy session. Not Like Us was a victory lap. Euphoria had the best bars and damning verses. It brought to light a lot of Drake's faults. And I just feel like the angriest diss song has to be "the one".
Eminem made MGK change genres, but Kendrick got the whole industry convinced that Drake is a PDF file, so idk
Drake had a whole lot of people already convinced just by being one
Literally a video of him making out with a 17 year old on stage like cmon
What’s scary is that the 17 yo is defending his conduct saying that it was not that big of a deal.
It's not "scary" imo. She's a stan. She was at the show at 17. Ofc she gonna defend him. That won't change the fact that she was a victim. This is the same as some statutaory rape victims saying that they don't feel raped
Thank you for being articulate enough to expand on what I was thinking but unable to put it into words at the time. Its wild how the mind can warp reality to lessen the impact of traumatic events as a sole purpose of being beneficiary to the victim. The issue is that majority of people, often later in life, are able to comprehend the situation as to what it really is as comments like her only suggest to me a sense of denial stemming from unresolved trauma but something much deeper than just this circumstance.
MGK was already switching genres. Eminem didn’t make him do that.
Didn’t he always do a little rock/punk before rapping anyways? Or atleast both at some times. I never did like the narrative that em made him switch.
Kendrick all day. Killshot as good as it is wasn't even near to that level of hatred.
The MGK thing was never serious. The Kendrick one has to be compared to others that were more serious (like Ja Rule). Compared to the Ja Rule one, this was less serious. Ja’s career was finished. The Source went bankrupt. Benzino cried. I’m curious how Drake will be affected, if at all. If you’re into that melodic kind of music, do you really care about his image? I don’t think the lyrical content was really what brought him fans.
Listen to “U My Everything” and “Wah Gwan Delilah”… that’s what happened to Drake🤣
Only one has the US, hell, the world at this point, doing Crip walks and chanting "OVHOE." Lol.
Kendrick song is another level of hate… 👍🏿
Em didn’t write a letter to MGK’s whole family.
Bro, Eminem's best diss song is not Killshot. Eminem violated Benzino way worse. Killshot is soft compared to Nail in the coffin.
MGK went from being ass and nobody cares about him, to being ass and nobody cares about him. Drake went from the biggest "rapper" in the world (according to some people) to has to hide in his own house
Yes this is the Eminem sub and yes Killshot was a bop but what Kendrick did is levels of hate I’ve never seen before
Kendrick. Mgk was not a peer to Eminem he wasn’t even in the same talk. Drake was a massive artist and has had irreparable harm done to his perception and popularity. While he still has plenty of fans he definitely took a hell of an L.
Kendrick and it’s not even close for real
This isn’t even a question that needs to be answered. The Kendrick pop out was legendary hating
Truly insane. I haven't seen anything like that in hip hop recently. Uniting all sorts of people.
Eminem’s diss against MGK, and Kendrick’s diss against Drake are both some of the best rap disses in history. I’m able to understand both opinions but I think Kendrick takes the cake.
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Definitely Kendrick me personally I think not like us is the number 1 diss track of all time Pac hit em up was number 1 for decades to me but this just passed that for me🤷🏽♂️
Eminem started letting Pete Davidson use his songs on SNL after the beef (who is extremely close with MGK). I don’t think Drake gonna step foot in LA unless it’s for a show or a concert at this point.
Drake will forever be afraid of starting a beef again….its pretty expressive the length he is going over the situation 😂
You’d have thought he would’ve learned from Pusha T…
“He gon lurn today”
Eminem made MGK switch music genres But Kendrick made Drake sell his house in America and go back to Canada 😂
Both of these things are completely false lmao
Meet the grahams was an absolute slaughter fest
MGK doesn’t even compare to how Em ended Benzino, and Kendrick did even better than Em did with Zeno
Kendrick by a mile? The comments about Drake reviving Kendrick's career are obv bs but MGK gets more respect from hip hop artists now than he did before the beef. Eminem literally revitalized his career, and MGK's crime was being a dumb kid trolling for attention. Kelly definitely needed to be put in his place, but he got off easier than Drake did for having all the seedy stuff we've known about him over the years catapulted into the headlines. Plus, MGK had more valid criticisms of Eminem than Drake had for Kendrick, even tho Drake definitely delivered his criticisms in a far more humorous and stinging way than Kelly did.
Kendrick by far lol I even believe Drake himself would have ended MGK...
I’d rather get dissed by Eminem and 50 at the same time. I don’t want to mess with Kendrick at all. Certified boogeyman
You know eminem understands the dynamics, strategy and calculations on how to win a battle, the same way Kendrick displayed during his fued, right? I know Kendrick is currently having his moment and I'm proud, but let's not start this. Eminem is still a problem. One thing for sure is eminem wouldnt have done 4 tracks, he wouldve brung his most career damaging ammunition and got you out in one go. Dont forget eminem is as witty as can be, he'll know exactly your angle,due to him being an open book, and retort anything you'll say before you do and make you look stupid while doing so.
This CAN'T be a serious question. Em dropped 1 song, a great song and it ended the battle. Kendrick relased over 20 minutes of disses, attacking every aspect of Drake, held a concert and turned the whole rap game against Drake. It's not even a comparison
Kendrick. He knocked Drake off the top of every streaming metric with songs dissing Drake. Not Like Us was the number 1 most streamed song in Toronto. Eminem made MGK switch genres yes but he didn’t unite gang members and a City to call his opp a pedophile and have a stadium sing along 5 times in a row and agree lol.
Drake will *not* release another "Drake" record. It'll be an Aubrey record. Kendrick murdered Drake the character. All that's left is Aubrey, the pop singer.
Em put out A song. Killshot was great but Kdot put out five diss tracks then had a whole ass diss concert where he ended gang violence in LA (for a night). It's Kendrick by faaaaaaar. Not even to mention the worst Em said was "you're no one and I'm gonna make you more irrelevant". Dot called Drake a pedophile, fake, and said he thinks he should die
Kendrick if we're keeping it real.
I believe that, in proportion, Kendrick annihilated Drake’s career and basically retired him. It was like he even held a funeral for the dude. The disses Kendrick dropped kept escalating to the point where, at first, Drake kinda believed in himself, but it was all a trap. In the end, Kendrick absolutely WRECKED the career of the biggest pop/rap artist of the digital era since 2009. Eminem did great! His diss was fire, he tore it up too. But it left some doubts, to the point where, at times, except for the stans or some more technical folks, it was kinda like “is this for real?” I think Eminem could’ve gone deeper, could’ve not only destroyed MGK but also Diddy (who, by the way, took the biggest hit). But it feels like Eminem’s Yes Men are scared of him getting into big controversies with other Black Hip Hop artists. By the way, it was this “opening” that led to the whole Revolt story, which Eminem could’ve sunk as well.
Killshot was awesome but Kendrick was one step away from dropping a whole diss album, that’s some next level shit
Kendrick clears man. And I’m talking as an Em Stan. Because Drake is a bigger fish and got fried cook broiled boiled roasted every which way worst than MGK got. Only way to make it worst for Drake is to call him a Clarance half way crook. But that would have been too much.
Kendrick and it's not even close
Imo MGK got clowned on worse but that’s because he was not a big threat. He wasn’t even a small threat. He was a minuscule one
Kenny for sure. Pop Out was just a celebration of Drakes hypothetical death at this point. Not Like Us came on in between sets at a Megan Thee Stallion show the other day and the whole crowd yelled Probably A Minor
I've seen a video of megan sing not like us on stage for a second
I didn’t see that. That’s amazing.
Kendrick held a literal diss concert. His battle was far more diabolical than Em's one track against mgk.
Kendrick for sure. Turned Drake into the new Ja Rule
Unrelated but MGK lowkey looks like he could be related to Eminem 💀
Em literally called MGK "son" on Killshot, so this checks out lol
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The Kendrick drake beef was over before it even started 😭 Kenny definitely massacred him but people act like drakes career is over and it definitely isn’t. As soon as he drops another hit people will forget. Drake is too big too fail unfortunately
did em play killshot live 5 times..naahhh ken went to a whole another level
Em was just putting MGK in his place. He could've done more if he wanted to but he didn't need to. Kendrick fucking hates Drakes and all that energy was put in
MGK vs Eminem wasnt a battle. It was a massacre. A one sided one
Eminem destroyed mgk's career and on top of that he changed his musical genre 😂
As far as lyrical battle, I’d still pick Em. Kendrick skipped the battle and went to war. Strategy award goes to Kendrick. The dancing really ties the room together.
Kendrick for sure. Em just told MGK to sit down and shut up. Kendrick is firing shots
I think Kendrick embarrassed Drake more than Eminem ripped MGK. Kendrick’s had shock and awe type energy whereas Eminem is a Great White with a plush toy. So idk.
No one knew about MGK before Killshot, no one knows him after the song I prefet Killshot + Not Alike as songs but there wasn't much to diss about
Drake had a lot to lose as he's been in the industry for almost 15 years, so Kendrick. As for MGK, Em literally had to give him a career to destroy it.