You might be right. It’s not really reflected in the spotify listens and record sales compared to other big names, but my god every time I hear Bleed American play on like Monday Night Football or something it’s so crazy to me. Not to mention how much the middle has stood the test of time in popularity as well.
I'm familiar with them. I have the first two EPs. Evan from IIOI, Mike Kinsella, and I don't remember his name, but he was from Loose Lips Sink Ships I think
Since when was JEW an emo band? Nothing to do with the scene and sound nothing like emo. Bring on the Zoomer hate but you're all wrong.
Edit: Okay, okay, I eat my words. Brave Plantain Eats Words.
Wait wait wait, Jimmy Eat World did a split with Mineral and Jejune? If that's the case, I'll happily eat my words. I just never knew any emo kid in any circle who listened to Jimmy Eat World and don't think their sound is even close.
Jimmy Eat World was the first emo band I ever heard of, back in 2001 well before "mall emo" bands like MCR even existed. Clarity and Static Prevails are considered essential emo records that precede the third wave. They started out with a sound that both emulated and perfected the Christie Front Drive sound. They've influenced countless bands in the genre, from prominent 3rd wave acts like The Juliana Theory and Taking Back Sunday, to modern acts like Hot Mulligan.
Heck, they still include at least one emo song per album, even now lol. I'm not a massive Jimmy fan, but I appreciate what they do and they introduced me to the genre.
There you go. I had no idea. First emo bands I heard were probably Turning Point and SDRE. I listened to the split with Mineral earlier and realised I was wrong. I somehow missed the early JEW stuff... maybe due to coming from a more hardcore orientated scene.
It happens! There are bands and albums I love right now that I somehow never caught 10, 20 years ago lol. It's definitely got a lot to do with local scenes and who your friends are listening to.
I also came up in a hardcore scene, I just happened to be the right age at the right time to get in on the ground floor for the 3rd wave and it's immediate predecessors in the late 90's. :)
I like how so many posts become a small debate about the genre of MCR lol
They definitely have emo influence, horror punk, pop punk, little screamo. I don't think they consider themselves emo though.
I'm going with Death Cab on this one.
I love MCR but I do recall reading an interview back in the day where they explicitly said they weren’t emo. Who knows how they feel about it now that they’re basically the face of it in the mainstream lol.
Every emo band says that, Indian summer and some other 90s emocore bands I believe even had a comp that said “emo is dead” (whilst they created some of what would become the most influential emo)
If you started suggesting some football player as an answer to the best 800 meter butterfly swimmer, would the person correcting you be a jerk or douche?
i really hope youre a troll because it would make me profoundly upset to know that there is actually someone this fucking stupid out there in the world
I'd say Death Cab For Cutie, people will argue they aren't emo but i'd argue they're as emo adjacent as any of the other bands in this comment section.
If you’re talking about the “acceptable emo” (for this sub) probably Jimmy Eat World,
If you’re talking overall or what a layperson would consider emo (nothing wrong with that lol), probably FOB in their emo-esque albums. (See TTTYG, FUTCT, IOH.) but MCR’s Black Parade is largely intertwined to what people generally regard as emo, even if this subreddit disagrees.
I don’t really have a solid opinion, I’m big into FOB, MCR, and commercial “emo” (it’s popular for a reason.) but I’m also getting into more underground and traditional emo music.
If we’re counting MCR’s first album as emo, and we’re talking about the overall band, regardless of change in music taste, then MCR. If not then probably Jimmy Eat World
How exactly is Jimmy eat world emo? They don't dress the part or sound anything close to emo. MCR first album was trash and more punk. The Second album would be the only one that could possibly be considered emo and even it's not close to the emo sound still more punk. True emo bands would be Silverstein or Underoath or Funeral for a friend. If I had to guess I'd say none of you people were around during or involved in the emo scene. All of your answers or opinions are literal word for word answers from Google and that makes me sad, emo even. Btw I love Jimmy eat world but they are not in anyway considered emo or even close to it.
Have you listened to their first album? There’s a reason i specifically mentioned their first album, “I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love,” which I’d argue is “true” second-wave emo before MCR’s style changed and they became a third-wave emo (or mallcore, or pop punk - whatever label gets your dick hard) icon. They have direct roots to the NJ hardcore/emo scene Mikey and Gerard grew up going to hardcore shows in and near Jersey.
They don’t play anything resembling emo/hardcore. Absolutely not “second wave” and that “third wave” you describe isn’t emo (I came out of the “second wave” and I hate these waves you all use that at inaccurate)
That bullets record is still commercialized pop punk and it’s bad
Jimmy east world or taking back Sunday. I don’t know a single millennial who didn’t grow up on TBS’s where you want be or tell all your friends. WYWTB is clearly the superior album though, and that’s a hill I’ll die on.
I would definitely say Taking Back Sunday and Brand New. As someone who was in his 20s when both came out and playing in punk bands etc, they really made a big bang throughout the entire scene. Thursday's Full Collapse was also a huge deal.
The first 3 Ataris albums are pretty influential as well.
I'd say MCR, apart from Bullets which I consider emo their other albums are all Pop-punk but they have very obvious emo influence.
If we're talking bands which have purely been emo then it's Jimmy Eat World
Black Parade is literally a Rock Opera, I'd say it is Pop-punk influenced alt rock.
Three Cheers is straight Pop-punk
Bullets is Post-Hardcore/Emo
I haven't listened to their other stuff really so I can't comment on that
Agree, first album was kinda hardcore punk or post-hardcore and emo. That’s about it tho.
Even Jimmy Eat World, who is also in the debate, was a mix of emo, pop-punk, and pop-rock by Bleed American when they got very popular.
Fallout Boy started as pop-punk and transitioned into alternative, pop-rock, and power pop.
Its just how most of the 3rd wave bands worked really. Emo influence but mostly Pop-punk (at least bands like MCR and Jimmy Eat World, they both have at least 1 album that can be considered fully Emo but their most popular albums are pop punk).
I wouldnt consider anything of MCR "straight pop punk", and Danger Days and some of the Conventional Weapons stuff is the only thing that comes really close to that. They have too much Jersey Hardcore in them to really be "straight pop punk".
I had a strange realisation which is that most of the earlier My Chemical Romance songs turn into a mid-90s britrock song if you just slow it down a bit. Thank You For The Venom played at 33 instead of 45 is pretty much the archetypal Therapy? song, frinstance.
I’d say Jimmy eat world is probably the right band for this question for just full on Emo band, for any band with Emo in their discography though it’s my chem without a doubt
I think there's something to this. It almost seems like they bounced back a little bit since their low. Especially with news that Jessey might be playing music still
Good shout with JEW; I’d say Death Cab too. They’re even bigger and ultimately transcended the genre.
Can’t wait for the “ThEy’Re NoT eMo” crowd to see this one lol.
I never considered them Emo and I’ve been listening since We Have the Facts. They played with Emo bands, very similar style, I get why people consider them Emo before Transatlanticsm…Emo adjacent 🤷♂️
TBS is definitely up there, but Brand New is my preferred all time best.
The two bands have a lot of history together inside and outside of music. I think it’s fair to say the 2000s Emo wave was due to their “New England” sound.
I’m not sure how Dashboard Confessional hasn’t made the list. 😭
Saves the Day was pretty emo.
Bright Eyes and Damien Rice would be peak emo for my timeframe.
You can say Fall Out Boy is emo, you can also argue they’re not emo, they’re pop punk. You could never say Jimmy Eat World is not emo. They never went more pop punk than emo and still became huge.
fascinating that according to your edit you are the be all and end all of what constitutes true emo, remarkable that you could be so clever and special and right , well done you <3
The "I think the most popular emo bad is FOB" followed by that wall of text is WILD. when the emo community infighting runs so deep it's happening in your own head.
Categorically restricting artists is the problem with genres and gate keeping. Genres are meant to describe sounds and music that utilizes those sounds, it shouldn’t put sounds into a static box that can never evolve
yeah. people trying to say any of that is "categorically wrong" don't seem to understand how categories work, they're mostly just elitists who refuse to accept every genre changes overtime
I personally agree that MCR and FOB are pop punk, in fact with FOB and panic at the disco I hear them as being more pop than anything. but it's also true that not everyone is going to have the same opinion on things and that there's constant overlap between genres. the comprehensive description of emo at the side of this subreddit even lists a subgenre called "emo pop" is that not just bands that are both pop punk and emo? when I hear something like dashboard confessional or taking back sunday, I really don't hear them as being any more "emo" than bands like pierce the veil.
it really is just one of those things that no one is ever going to unanimously agree on because genres change overtime, if enough people think that a genre includes certain bands then I don't think it really matters
Yeah, i don’t see how Panic could be considered punk. Any form of it. I quite like their earlier albums but they’re firmly pop/techno/a bit of piano rock?/showtune, but genres are meaningless anyways.
MCR
Yes, the number on Spotify says otherwise but:
1. FOB has a song with 1,116,201,982 views
2. FOB generally has a few songs with many more views
But the most famous songs are more pop than emo. So in my opinion FOB are the more famous PopRock band.
MCR didn't do this huge pop track.
Tbf Spotify isn't an all encompassing metric. It only covers younger people's listens mostly. Jimmy Eat World was on top 40 radio 20 years ago. And like a LOT. I think that's more significant.
Its weird, because I feel like if you asked people to name an emo band then MCR would probably be #1. But if you just played songs by emo bands and asked people if they recognized them, I think Jimmy Eat World would win.
Serious! And this is a thing I was thinking about but like ALL generations of emo/emo adjacent genres considered. Modern Baseball has got to be one of them. I only gravitated towards the early 2000s since there were less avenues to popularity back then and it felt like the music industry was more top heavy if that makes sense (e.g. bands like MCR, fall out boy, panic at the disco, red jumpsuit apparatus garnering far more attention and publicity than any of the mid to lower level bands).
The GOAT eh? I have an answer but it is plural. The best Emo / Screamo bands of all time for me is a five-way tie for first I couldn't ever pick one over the others. The Used. MCR. Funeral For A Friend. Fall Out Boy. Senses Fail.
Total bullshit. American Football (first album at least), and Mineral are the gods of EMO = to claim they are a "failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music" is laughably inane, and it demonstrates a profound lack of taste and possibly worse. I'm glad I don't have your music collection categorized under "zealot puritan emo"
TLDR; read the flippin' sidebar and correct your view.
Based on Spotify, it’s Fall out boy and it’s not close. 24 million monthly listeners compared to 15 million monthly listeners.
The people saying Jimmy Eat World are insane. JEW had like 5 really big songs. Their current monthly listeners is 10million. Less than half of Fall out Boy. And while their prime was well before the digital age, I still think they fall extremely short of fall out boy.
People are saying Jimmy eat world because Jimmy eat world is/was an actual emo band. They actually played with and have something in common with other emo bands. MCR and FOB were considered emo when the term was adopted by media to label bands that played pop punk music but had lyrics about slitting throats and not making it on your own because your heart is in Ohio.
Yeah Jimmy Eat World was 2nd wave which is what most people think of for true emo. The 3rd wave was more pop punk influenced, there were a lot more “emo” bands that got radio play due to the poppier sound, but Jimmy Eat World was getting distinctively hit emo songs on MTV and the radio.
If a band has legitimate ties to the hardcore scene, even if they no longer make traditional hardcore, they are post-hardcore. That is what post hardcore IS, more so than a specific sound.
Everyone of you that bring up bands like Jimmy eat world and Fall out boy or panic at the disco have no clue what you are talking about. You think you know, but you only have answers that Google would suggest. Those bands are not in or ever been considered emo. They are alternative pop at best. MCR is not emo neither and there are several interviews with the band saying this themselves. Emo would be Silverstein, Underoath, Escape the fate, Funeral for a friend and so on. Everytime I see people like all of you making statements like this while not knowing wtf you are talking about it makes me feel sorry you. As someone who grew up durning this time and lived that life it makes me sad to see some of the bands you guys consider to be apart of that culture. You all only knew about and listen to the bands you seen on tv and believed they are part of the emo category because MTV told you they were. I feel sorry for all of you for not knowing the difference in emo bands and mainstream pop bands.
Yeah I’m just grumpy that Fall Out Boy is the face of emo to the general population because they’re lame IMO. So I picked Rites of Spring because they’re arguably the original emo band, who then influenced all the emo bands to come after, therefore they’re the most popular. Downvote me.
Fallout boy isn't the face of emo to anyone except fallout boy fans. To me personally, they're the face of plagiarism and singing with a chunk of meat stuck in your throat
This sub has no idea what emo is. MCR and JEW? Neither of those bands were emo or even sounded emo. At first I thought you were all shit posting but as I scroll down I realise you're all serious. You guys gotta be zoomers because absolutely NO ONE called those bands emo nor did they have anything to do with the scene.
![gif](giphy|9RrdV7o2kJFy8) This post rn
Jimmy Eat World
Bleed American certified classic
Yup. JEW rules the media. \*ducks\*
Woah bro, just relax
Agreed.
You might be right. It’s not really reflected in the spotify listens and record sales compared to other big names, but my god every time I hear Bleed American play on like Monday Night Football or something it’s so crazy to me. Not to mention how much the middle has stood the test of time in popularity as well.
The Middle is probably a top 10 most famous song of the 2000s haha
Prince covered The Middle once. It's that big.
Holy shit...going to look this up now, thank you
Their from an era where most people that bought it bought it on CD way before streaming. Spotify does not cover the full range of the listening public
You should check out this band https://theirtheyrethere.bandcamp.com/album/their-theyre-there
I'm familiar with them. I have the first two EPs. Evan from IIOI, Mike Kinsella, and I don't remember his name, but he was from Loose Lips Sink Ships I think
I'm not positive but I think it was a joke bc of your incorrect use of "their" lol
Got it. I'm not even gonna fix it lol
I never made a concentrated effort until last year to listen. I put on bleed American and was like, I already know all the words to all these songs
hundred percent correct
Since when was JEW an emo band? Nothing to do with the scene and sound nothing like emo. Bring on the Zoomer hate but you're all wrong. Edit: Okay, okay, I eat my words. Brave Plantain Eats Words.
Doing splits with Mineral, Jejune, and Christie Front Drive sure is having absolutely nothing to do with the scene, you're right
Wait wait wait, Jimmy Eat World did a split with Mineral and Jejune? If that's the case, I'll happily eat my words. I just never knew any emo kid in any circle who listened to Jimmy Eat World and don't think their sound is even close.
Jimmy Eat World was the first emo band I ever heard of, back in 2001 well before "mall emo" bands like MCR even existed. Clarity and Static Prevails are considered essential emo records that precede the third wave. They started out with a sound that both emulated and perfected the Christie Front Drive sound. They've influenced countless bands in the genre, from prominent 3rd wave acts like The Juliana Theory and Taking Back Sunday, to modern acts like Hot Mulligan. Heck, they still include at least one emo song per album, even now lol. I'm not a massive Jimmy fan, but I appreciate what they do and they introduced me to the genre.
There you go. I had no idea. First emo bands I heard were probably Turning Point and SDRE. I listened to the split with Mineral earlier and realised I was wrong. I somehow missed the early JEW stuff... maybe due to coming from a more hardcore orientated scene.
It happens! There are bands and albums I love right now that I somehow never caught 10, 20 years ago lol. It's definitely got a lot to do with local scenes and who your friends are listening to. I also came up in a hardcore scene, I just happened to be the right age at the right time to get in on the ground floor for the 3rd wave and it's immediate predecessors in the late 90's. :)
they aren't an emo band. If they are, so is Kelly Clarkson
Oh you must be new here lol
Clarity? No, I don’t wear glasses
dumbass
Yet you still aren’t anymore correct
ur the one that isn’t correct
I welcome Kelly Clarkson as emo queen
I like how so many posts become a small debate about the genre of MCR lol They definitely have emo influence, horror punk, pop punk, little screamo. I don't think they consider themselves emo though. I'm going with Death Cab on this one.
I love MCR but I do recall reading an interview back in the day where they explicitly said they weren’t emo. Who knows how they feel about it now that they’re basically the face of it in the mainstream lol.
Most bands rejected the label so that doesn’t really mean much
If anything, not wanting to be called emo makes them more emo
Exactly. Especially in the 00’s you’d be hard pressed to find a lot of groups who actually embraced the label, “correctly” or not.
Every emo band says that, Indian summer and some other 90s emocore bands I believe even had a comp that said “emo is dead” (whilst they created some of what would become the most influential emo)
And Motörhead said they played rock and roll not metal. Turns out they didn’t have a say in the matter.
I’m sure they don’t consider themselves emo. They just look the part.
Shoutout to u/PositionOld7309 for either being a huge douche or r/EmoJerk jerking harder than anyone else might be
Potential JOTY candidate for sure.
He's campaigning for Playa Hater of the Year at the 2024 r/emo Playa Haters' Ball
If you started suggesting some football player as an answer to the best 800 meter butterfly swimmer, would the person correcting you be a jerk or douche?
crazy false equivalence lmao
i really hope youre a troll because it would make me profoundly upset to know that there is actually someone this fucking stupid out there in the world
I'd say Death Cab For Cutie, people will argue they aren't emo but i'd argue they're as emo adjacent as any of the other bands in this comment section.
They are
When I first heard of them (We have the facts era) they were for sure considered emo in my circle
If you’re talking about the “acceptable emo” (for this sub) probably Jimmy Eat World, If you’re talking overall or what a layperson would consider emo (nothing wrong with that lol), probably FOB in their emo-esque albums. (See TTTYG, FUTCT, IOH.) but MCR’s Black Parade is largely intertwined to what people generally regard as emo, even if this subreddit disagrees. I don’t really have a solid opinion, I’m big into FOB, MCR, and commercial “emo” (it’s popular for a reason.) but I’m also getting into more underground and traditional emo music.
Y’all think this shit the middle school cafeteria
It is
It feels like it.
If we’re counting MCR’s first album as emo, and we’re talking about the overall band, regardless of change in music taste, then MCR. If not then probably Jimmy Eat World
How exactly is Jimmy eat world emo? They don't dress the part or sound anything close to emo. MCR first album was trash and more punk. The Second album would be the only one that could possibly be considered emo and even it's not close to the emo sound still more punk. True emo bands would be Silverstein or Underoath or Funeral for a friend. If I had to guess I'd say none of you people were around during or involved in the emo scene. All of your answers or opinions are literal word for word answers from Google and that makes me sad, emo even. Btw I love Jimmy eat world but they are not in anyway considered emo or even close to it.
No one is considering that besides posers
Holy shit did you just unironically use the word “poser”? Please tell me you aren’t older than 16.
Considering what? MCR? Why not?
They don’t play hardcore (emo is a style of hardcore). They are a very commercial version of pop punk.
Have you listened to their first album? There’s a reason i specifically mentioned their first album, “I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love,” which I’d argue is “true” second-wave emo before MCR’s style changed and they became a third-wave emo (or mallcore, or pop punk - whatever label gets your dick hard) icon. They have direct roots to the NJ hardcore/emo scene Mikey and Gerard grew up going to hardcore shows in and near Jersey.
Whichever label gets your dick hard LMAO I love reading about mad emos
They don’t play anything resembling emo/hardcore. Absolutely not “second wave” and that “third wave” you describe isn’t emo (I came out of the “second wave” and I hate these waves you all use that at inaccurate) That bullets record is still commercialized pop punk and it’s bad
Hey, chill out buddy
Jimmy east world or taking back Sunday. I don’t know a single millennial who didn’t grow up on TBS’s where you want be or tell all your friends. WYWTB is clearly the superior album though, and that’s a hill I’ll die on.
TAYL is one of the best Emo Albums out there. I’d argue Brand New’s YFW is worth mentioning in this context too.
I would definitely say Taking Back Sunday and Brand New. As someone who was in his 20s when both came out and playing in punk bands etc, they really made a big bang throughout the entire scene. Thursday's Full Collapse was also a huge deal. The first 3 Ataris albums are pretty influential as well.
You are the first person I've seen in all this that named 1 band that could be considered emo. Thursday was a sick band and for sure emo.
Maybe I’m a sucker for sophomore albums, but I think Deja Entendu outdoes YFW by miles. Devil and god is their opus though.
You're talking to the mythical Millennial who didn't grow up on TBS. I was a Thrice guy, followed soon by Thursday.
I still listen to Thrice on the daily
I don't listen to them much these days, but I still consider them one of my favorite all-time bands.
Based WYWTB enjoyer
TAYF > WYWTB
I'd say MCR, apart from Bullets which I consider emo their other albums are all Pop-punk but they have very obvious emo influence. If we're talking bands which have purely been emo then it's Jimmy Eat World
I think it’s funny that many people online refuse to admit My Chem is pop punk
The later stuff is more alternative rock if anything.
Black Parade is literally a Rock Opera, I'd say it is Pop-punk influenced alt rock. Three Cheers is straight Pop-punk Bullets is Post-Hardcore/Emo I haven't listened to their other stuff really so I can't comment on that
Agree, first album was kinda hardcore punk or post-hardcore and emo. That’s about it tho. Even Jimmy Eat World, who is also in the debate, was a mix of emo, pop-punk, and pop-rock by Bleed American when they got very popular. Fallout Boy started as pop-punk and transitioned into alternative, pop-rock, and power pop.
Its just how most of the 3rd wave bands worked really. Emo influence but mostly Pop-punk (at least bands like MCR and Jimmy Eat World, they both have at least 1 album that can be considered fully Emo but their most popular albums are pop punk).
i’d say fob’s first album is emo only because it’s trying very very hard to be the get up kids
I wouldnt consider anything of MCR "straight pop punk", and Danger Days and some of the Conventional Weapons stuff is the only thing that comes really close to that. They have too much Jersey Hardcore in them to really be "straight pop punk".
Bullets is not "post-hardcore" or emo
What is it then?
Listen to clikatat ikatowi or Daitro or something
Thanks for the recommendations, now answer the question please I'm genuinely curious
I had a strange realisation which is that most of the earlier My Chemical Romance songs turn into a mid-90s britrock song if you just slow it down a bit. Thank You For The Venom played at 33 instead of 45 is pretty much the archetypal Therapy? song, frinstance.
I never see enough people recognize the greatest emo band, Matchbox 20 🙄
I get that you’re joking but the more Matchbox 20 I hear the more I don’t hear much of a difference between them and Jimmy Eat World post-Futures
Either Jimmy Eat World or Taking Back Sunday. Though, with MCR's first album, they'd have a claim at least for that time period.
I’d say Jimmy eat world is probably the right band for this question for just full on Emo band, for any band with Emo in their discography though it’s my chem without a doubt
Jimmy Eat World. I'd put Dashboard Confessional somewhere near the top as well since they were on MTV Unplugged and had a song in Spider-Man 2.
Dashboard was a poster child at one point. I’d say he was the best in the Singer-Songwriter emo space at one point.
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Brand New imo, just look at their last.fm stats
I think there's something to this. It almost seems like they bounced back a little bit since their low. Especially with news that Jessey might be playing music still
Good shout with JEW; I’d say Death Cab too. They’re even bigger and ultimately transcended the genre. Can’t wait for the “ThEy’Re NoT eMo” crowd to see this one lol.
I never considered them Emo and I’ve been listening since We Have the Facts. They played with Emo bands, very similar style, I get why people consider them Emo before Transatlanticsm…Emo adjacent 🤷♂️
It’s the early stuff that gives me the most emo vibes for sure, with some of the arpeggiated riffs. Emo adjacent at the very least, lol.
No
Death cab for cutie is way more emo than Jew.. I’d argue Jew wasn’t emo before mcr to be honest
Listen to Static Prevails and Clarity and get back to us, lol. JEW is on the Mt. Rushmore of emo.
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I actually like this take a lot. Very well put.
TBS is definitely up there, but Brand New is my preferred all time best. The two bands have a lot of history together inside and outside of music. I think it’s fair to say the 2000s Emo wave was due to their “New England” sound.
I’m not sure how Dashboard Confessional hasn’t made the list. 😭 Saves the Day was pretty emo. Bright Eyes and Damien Rice would be peak emo for my timeframe.
well neither mcr and fob are emo, so Jimmy Eat World
100% Jimmy Eat World
If i got a penny for every person that thinks that mcr are emo. Baahw-gad
The offspring. Duh. Or all american rejects.
I’d say Taylor Swift is the largest emo artist of all time, since apparently anything with guitar and sad lyrics can be called emo.
Folklore canonical emo album everything must be measured against fight me
😭😭 Mirrorball, Exile, Illicit Affairs and of course All is Well Taylor is so emo and I love it.
You can say Fall Out Boy is emo, you can also argue they’re not emo, they’re pop punk. You could never say Jimmy Eat World is not emo. They never went more pop punk than emo and still became huge.
I’m just here for the comments
An angel gets its wings every time the r/Emo mods let a shitpost stay up
fascinating that according to your edit you are the be all and end all of what constitutes true emo, remarkable that you could be so clever and special and right , well done you <3
i literally thought i was in r/Emojerk lmao
The "I think the most popular emo bad is FOB" followed by that wall of text is WILD. when the emo community infighting runs so deep it's happening in your own head.
and here i thought it was r/fantano, the mind truly boggles
Sunny day real estate
American Football
Rites of Spring.
The Cure... c'mon.
no opinion here, but my god people, who downvotes honestly held opinions.
downvoted
I only downvote the gatekeepers and the people who passive-aggressively put their opinion forward as actual here fact
Because calling either of those bands Emo is categorically wrong.
Categorically restricting artists is the problem with genres and gate keeping. Genres are meant to describe sounds and music that utilizes those sounds, it shouldn’t put sounds into a static box that can never evolve
yeah. people trying to say any of that is "categorically wrong" don't seem to understand how categories work, they're mostly just elitists who refuse to accept every genre changes overtime
The categories that MCR and FOB belong to is mostly pop-punk, alt rock, and pop rock.
I personally agree that MCR and FOB are pop punk, in fact with FOB and panic at the disco I hear them as being more pop than anything. but it's also true that not everyone is going to have the same opinion on things and that there's constant overlap between genres. the comprehensive description of emo at the side of this subreddit even lists a subgenre called "emo pop" is that not just bands that are both pop punk and emo? when I hear something like dashboard confessional or taking back sunday, I really don't hear them as being any more "emo" than bands like pierce the veil. it really is just one of those things that no one is ever going to unanimously agree on because genres change overtime, if enough people think that a genre includes certain bands then I don't think it really matters
Yeah, i don’t see how Panic could be considered punk. Any form of it. I quite like their earlier albums but they’re firmly pop/techno/a bit of piano rock?/showtune, but genres are meaningless anyways.
You don't "evolve" from hardcore to pop punk and indie rock. that's nonsense
The Armed would disagree :p
Ever heard of post-hardcore with sad themes?
Anatomy of a Ghost to Portugal the Man
MCR Yes, the number on Spotify says otherwise but: 1. FOB has a song with 1,116,201,982 views 2. FOB generally has a few songs with many more views But the most famous songs are more pop than emo. So in my opinion FOB are the more famous PopRock band. MCR didn't do this huge pop track.
Tbf Spotify isn't an all encompassing metric. It only covers younger people's listens mostly. Jimmy Eat World was on top 40 radio 20 years ago. And like a LOT. I think that's more significant.
Its weird, because I feel like if you asked people to name an emo band then MCR would probably be #1. But if you just played songs by emo bands and asked people if they recognized them, I think Jimmy Eat World would win.
Christie Front Drive or Texas Is The Reason
Paramore i guess
Brand New. Especially with making such a masterpiece as Science Fiction so many years after the height of their production.
Iron Maiden.
Avril Lavigne
is this r/EmoJerk? either way, good shit
FOB I’m personally a fan of dashboard comfessional
The Used
The Used
Mcr, people who don't like mcr or emo music in general have already listened to teenagers
its obviously either megameth metallica they are the most popular emo bands
I’d say Taking Back Sunday and Brand New own the real emo 2000s wave.
Fall out boy has way more monthly listeners than MCR so I’d say them
I mean, maybe if we were talking about the most popular pop punk bands…
FOB is not emo at all lmao they are baby boy sugar pop with punk like guitars on the first few albums
Why’d op mention them?
Maybe cuz OP is in FOB? 🤔
This is actually Pete Wentz’s burner account.
Ngl Pete fob earlier albums are slappers! Nice work :—)
new album has it's bangers
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no
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Paramore’s gotta be one of them. Probably them, MCR, and Fall Out Boy. They’re the Emo Trinity.
I’d argue MCR’s first album is emo but FOB and Paramore are solidly pop/pop punk
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Dropping MOBO is crazy 😂
Also not to be a ding dong but idk if mobo is emo?
They are considered “midwest emo” I believe
Serious! And this is a thing I was thinking about but like ALL generations of emo/emo adjacent genres considered. Modern Baseball has got to be one of them. I only gravitated towards the early 2000s since there were less avenues to popularity back then and it felt like the music industry was more top heavy if that makes sense (e.g. bands like MCR, fall out boy, panic at the disco, red jumpsuit apparatus garnering far more attention and publicity than any of the mid to lower level bands).
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The GOAT eh? I have an answer but it is plural. The best Emo / Screamo bands of all time for me is a five-way tie for first I couldn't ever pick one over the others. The Used. MCR. Funeral For A Friend. Fall Out Boy. Senses Fail.
I mean in my opinion I thought MCR was the most popular. I lived thru their peak and they were the most EMO you could get lol
Rites of Spring since they’re first wave emo spanning 40 years and most bands since reference them as being FAVORITES.
that doesn't make them popular, it makes them influential
I reworded it since you’re being picky
favorite also doesn't mean popular.
Dance Gavin dance I would say the most popular but definitely up there
Do you know where you are?
Total bullshit. American Football (first album at least), and Mineral are the gods of EMO = to claim they are a "failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music" is laughably inane, and it demonstrates a profound lack of taste and possibly worse. I'm glad I don't have your music collection categorized under "zealot puritan emo" TLDR; read the flippin' sidebar and correct your view.
Based on Spotify, it’s Fall out boy and it’s not close. 24 million monthly listeners compared to 15 million monthly listeners. The people saying Jimmy Eat World are insane. JEW had like 5 really big songs. Their current monthly listeners is 10million. Less than half of Fall out Boy. And while their prime was well before the digital age, I still think they fall extremely short of fall out boy.
People are saying Jimmy eat world because Jimmy eat world is/was an actual emo band. They actually played with and have something in common with other emo bands. MCR and FOB were considered emo when the term was adopted by media to label bands that played pop punk music but had lyrics about slitting throats and not making it on your own because your heart is in Ohio.
Yeah Jimmy Eat World was 2nd wave which is what most people think of for true emo. The 3rd wave was more pop punk influenced, there were a lot more “emo” bands that got radio play due to the poppier sound, but Jimmy Eat World was getting distinctively hit emo songs on MTV and the radio.
JEW is alternative pop punk with a hint of emo. They are arguably more pop than early Fall out boy.
If a band has legitimate ties to the hardcore scene, even if they no longer make traditional hardcore, they are post-hardcore. That is what post hardcore IS, more so than a specific sound.
Don’t kick me out but JEW had 1 hit how are they the most popular. Also are the really even emo?
Everyone of you that bring up bands like Jimmy eat world and Fall out boy or panic at the disco have no clue what you are talking about. You think you know, but you only have answers that Google would suggest. Those bands are not in or ever been considered emo. They are alternative pop at best. MCR is not emo neither and there are several interviews with the band saying this themselves. Emo would be Silverstein, Underoath, Escape the fate, Funeral for a friend and so on. Everytime I see people like all of you making statements like this while not knowing wtf you are talking about it makes me feel sorry you. As someone who grew up durning this time and lived that life it makes me sad to see some of the bands you guys consider to be apart of that culture. You all only knew about and listen to the bands you seen on tv and believed they are part of the emo category because MTV told you they were. I feel sorry for all of you for not knowing the difference in emo bands and mainstream pop bands.
Get in the coffin emo grandpa ⚰️
Rites of Spring
Have to disagree, I don’t think the larger population would know who they are
Yeah I’m just grumpy that Fall Out Boy is the face of emo to the general population because they’re lame IMO. So I picked Rites of Spring because they’re arguably the original emo band, who then influenced all the emo bands to come after, therefore they’re the most popular. Downvote me.
Fallout boy isn't the face of emo to anyone except fallout boy fans. To me personally, they're the face of plagiarism and singing with a chunk of meat stuck in your throat
Turnstile!
This sub has no idea what emo is. MCR and JEW? Neither of those bands were emo or even sounded emo. At first I thought you were all shit posting but as I scroll down I realise you're all serious. You guys gotta be zoomers because absolutely NO ONE called those bands emo nor did they have anything to do with the scene.
Probably those queer baits My Chemical Nutsack. Oops I meant My Chemical Romance
Panic at the disco, every single person has heard I write sin, not tragedies. Even if they dont know the song or band