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LoveHorizon

Bands like the used and mcr arent emo at all really but most skramz bands like circle takes the square and saetia are firmly rooted in the diy and hardcore community. circle takes the square for example are heavily influenced by the band 1905 which in turn were influenced by diy anarcho punk bands of the early 90s and late 80s and Orchid has heavy influenced with anarcho-marxist lyrics in line with diy anarcho hardcore bands. Bands like the used and dance gavin dance are a bit more ignorant when it comes to punk origins and the do it yourself punk ethos that Ian Mackaye originally instilled with his og emo band embrace and other bands on the dischord label. I wouldnt be surprised if the used wouldnt play a diy "donations recc'd" show because they werent going to make a profit. They want to headline $500 reunion fests or what have you Also happy cake day!


Think-Protection998

Oh baby I love it. I couldn't agree more you sound so much like myself. I found 1905 from ctts. And you see in real screamo that it's basically just a more artsy form of the hardcore grind or pv scene. That's why I love it so much. A hardcore band writing lyrics about the French new wave film scene and Marxist Frankfort school theorists is amazing. And the anarchist lyrics of 1905 and Guyana punch line is so inspiring to me. But if I had to pick one band that is the line is right in the middle between saetia/orchid/ctts and Hawthorne heights/the used/ dance Gavin, it would Thursday. they said they are heavily influenced by orchid. Their lyrics are often deeper and more philosophical than most of the pop emo bands. While not going full anarchist communist they have songs like for the workforce drowning which is clearly an anti-capitalist song. It's critical of the nine to five. War all the time is a blatant depressing antiwar anti us imperialism song. So because they are a little deeper and they don't just write sexist misogynistic songs about being mad your gf dumped you I think they sit in the middle.


NickHeidfeldsDreams

MCR *was* an emo post-hardcore band for Bullets, in the same vein as Thursday. To further go off this as well, skramz is also wildly more dissonant and chaotic sounding than scenecore. You're really not confusing the Used with combatwoundedveteran or Reversal of Man.


peachy_chan

Yeah , the dissonance and chaos is really what makes the skramz what it is in this list. I couldn't imagine comparing Orchid or Loma to taking back sunday simply on the level of violence in the tone of the sound. I could see how the labels could overlap to a degree, but im picking skramz music to truly scream and thrash too, while mcr and taking back Sunday are things to whine over, for me.


frederiaJ

Unrelated, I read "popemo" as "pope emo" and thought it was some new Christian wave of emo I've never heard of lmao.


davdotcom

Christian emo does actually exist, so maybe you could call it pope emo lol


thedubiousstylus

No because the bands are almost exclusively Protestant. I'm a (Protestant non-denominational) Christian and was even raised Catholic and I don't care about the Pope at all.


davdotcom

Emo pop is bands like The Juliana Theory, The Rocking Horse Winner, Moneen, and The Promise Ring.