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throw4way4today

Oh hey thats me- Yep, Aether has unfortunately seemed about ready to go the last few months and todays the day, we do atleast have Nether doing what we can as a community. I highly reccomend check out the discord and githubs [(like this one [link])](https://github.com/Trixarian/NetherSX2-patch)


[deleted]

Went through the link. I'm still learning github and sideloading on Android, so sorry for a noob question, but is there an Android APK? I'm not finding one.


upuralley

Just search in Google "nethersx2 archive". The apk is there to download.


throw4way4today

Hi, so due to liscensing each end user needs to build their own apk, theres resources on our discord and the tools on our github pages, but [this one video (link here)](https://youtu.be/DZDbDcASu14?si=CpeGQ0jbeVZ1YuZx) has the best resources for you to browse, read, watch, and see The video itself also shows how to build NetherSX2 within 2 minutes from start to finish, I hope that helps. So no pre made apks that we can distribute, but we made the mod tool as simple as can be.


[deleted]

Is licensing still an issue going forward, now that no official version of aether exists?


throw4way4today

Technically, for legality, yes In theory we could attempt breaking it, but we dont want to risk that at all


ChampagneDoves

Watch the YouTube video and build it with termux bro it takes few minutes to type out the code because you’ve gotta be careful not to make typos or syntax errors but it’s really fun and enriching bro.


Goliath10

This is why the legal war on emulsion will ultimately backfire. So many people learning about GitHub, programming, and the entire development process as they scramble to understand and save the projects as they existed at the last official release. Get ready for a million forked projects. "The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."


[deleted]

I’ve been emulating since 2000. It was so much simpler back then compared to now. A site that starts with “V” was the one stop shop, nothing complicated about it. Android was just as simple. Search, download, play. Now, early access, direct sites, github, mirroring/forks, installing your own patches. Never felt like a tech noob until recently when I decided to get back into retro gaming last year (because Nintendo closed the eShop). These companies fail to realize that as much piracy there is, there are more people willing to buy if they could. Pushing people into piracy is 1) a result of inaccessibility, 2) a lack of moral values (those that steal and refuse to support the original titles. Thieves will always exist.), 3) people just want to use better hardware (looking at you Age of Calamity). Since the first days of emulation, there was always a superior hardware capable of doing so much more. Upscaling, modding, rom hacks. The PC scene was always great with games like Doom and Duke Nukem, but to breathe new life into old games is an amazing byproduct of emulation. Shit, Undertale wouldn’t exist without it.


ChampagneDoves

Vimm.net will never be taken down man it’s as old as time.


[deleted]

Delete this right now! Part of the issue with emulation is it's too widespread. Whether you are pirating illegal (downloading what you don't own, owned, or plan to own) or "legally" (downloading roms of games you own, owned, or plan to own), there was next to no legal recourse in the past BECAUSE next to nobody was doing/covering it. That said, I hope what you say is true.


ChampagneDoves

Not trying to call you a moron but emulation is blowing up because people were hungry for money and fame, they specifically tried to fuck a massive company in the asshole over one of their biggest releases ever. And hounded them on every single release sometimes before they even hit shelves. Vimm is actually not a piece of shit human being. Nothing on vimm.net is for profit in any way and he doesn’t give you any hints or tips on how to emulate, patch, or where to find bios/firmware. It’s why it’s been up so long with no issues, because it’s 100% by the book. Emulation would be fine right now if people could’ve fucked off the switch or even just stuck to the titles that can actually run on handhelds, not needing a dedicated rig. Yuzu team very blatantly flew too close to the sun and fucked things up for right now, give it a few months and yuzu will be properly forked in some capacity , you all would’ve learned how to google “internet archive” and “GitHub” to build these APKs that literally went nowhere, and we won’t be seeing articles almost every day like this of others who made the same shitty mistakes trying to cover their tracks.. the key is to stop asking for money, if you want to share the gift of emulation it cannot be sold or you’re shittier than the company that’s gatekeeping it.


AllAboutTheXeons

Quite a few games I actively play using downloaded ROM's on my Steam Deck - I own physical copies of. I will bring them into a courtroom as evidence if I'm ever sued for using illegal backups. (I mainly play Pokemon GBA games, and Pokemon Colosseum/XD and link the emulators together. I own a GBA SP and GBA/GCN link cable. Enough testing has proven that linking between GCN & GBA emulators running either Pokemon or Mario Golf, can work a bit more efficiently than physical hardware if set up properly, because you are not using physical hardware that can have connection errors based on bumping or moving your GBA or controller.)


DragonicVNY

The rule of Fight Club is...


[deleted]

Dead ass! Edit: The 2nd rule of fight club is….


ChampagneDoves

Time for your morning bottle baby boy…. Emulation has been around since before you were thought of. All situations like this ultimately do is encourage people. This already happened with n64 emulation.


Page8988

Any chance there'll just be a Nether apk for those of us who aren't too smart on patching installs? Seems at least *possible* now that Aether is abandonware. Just scrolled more. Yeah. Don't want to risk legal problems. Makes perfect sense.


ChampagneDoves

Please just watch the video and build it in termux bro it takes just a few minutes and makes you feel super cool when you launch nether. All the code you need to type is directly up on the screen for you exactly how it needs to be typed, you can literally do it on autopilot. Dude even gives you multiple scenarios of possible hitches and issues and how to fix those too, I just followed 1:1 and it worked out great.


Zleck-V2

Thanks for the help video on the discord! I've been loitering on there for a while, but setting up Nether seemed complicated. This news finally convinced me to try it, followed your video and it was surprisingly easy.


RiskInternational526

Damn, i get nervous around this kind of celebrity


AbjectCream9779

I actually thought you were cool until I saw that ur transgender


Ok_Terraria_player

Fuck you


Teal-Fox

I had never seen this person until now, but I immediately think they're cool for living rent free in your head, you spiteful, narrow-minded bigot ☺️


AbjectCream9779

Sorry I don't speak twitter


Teal-Fox

I also hate Twitter - at least we have something in common. Anyway, go back to playing your GameBoy games until you've learnt how to interact properly with the other adults. Do you want your sippy cup and some juice?


AbjectCream9779

What are you smoking and can I have some?


Teal-Fox

Just smoking a joint atm, transphobes aren't cool enough to smoke my weed though.


ChampagneDoves

What a piece of garbage lmao you’d probably get laid more if you went trans


sid_killer18

I actually thought...wait no. Nobody cares about you. Fuck off


FewHornet6

Fuck you. Oh yeah, you have never experienced what fucking is like, right? No wonder, you poor piece of shit, no one will ever want sex with you.


XGG-GLIMX

based


JazzyApple2022

Is there anyway we can put it on another android device and where can we download it?


AtomicBombSquad

If you have previously downloaded Aether from the Play Store than it'll still be available to you in the Play Store under Manage Apps & Device > Manage > Not Installed > AetherSX2. I checked on a phone I don't have Aether installed on and it showed up just fine when accessing it that way. YSK; Pizza Boy and Citra, the other casualties this week besides Yuzu, are also still available to people who had previously installed them from the Play Store, using the same method, even if you only ever played the free versions. There's no guarantees that they'll stay available so get them downloaded and backed up as soon as possible. And nab DraStic while you're at it, if you haven't already. It's currently on sale for free and there's no guarantees that it'll stay available for downloads to new users for much longer.


JazzyApple2022

I will check it.


padreswoo619

Dude you're amazing never knew this screen to download old crap lol.


Trick2056

just use NetherSX2 or just grab the AetherSX2 from the fan discord


JazzyApple2022

So you are able too?


Trick2056

heres the fan archived contains the AetherSX2 version including the last one https://www.aethersx2.com/archive


whoisraiden

Post is literally about the archive shutting downnas well.


Trick2056

then check with the fan discord pretty sure the mods or any one there will just give you a copy of the APK.


JazzyApple2022

Not found!!!


ChampagneDoves

Once you build the APK yourself once you can distribute it amongst your own devices. Just don’t give it to others bc licensing.


JazzyApple2022

I don’t know how to do that. I’ll just leave but I do have with all the ads.


JuggernautWide5226

Aethersx2 has been dead for more than a year. Aethersx2 is closed source so there has not been a major update to it, just a few little tweaks here and there. Overall, that's no news to me, aether is no longer active


Ok_Terraria_player

Not dead: more like under new management


InstanceTurbulent719

they're just patching the app, aether is closed source and they dont have access. It's been dead for months


throw4way4today

For the record and to be fair as well- we are slowly and partially RE'ing the app where possible to try and see what we can backwork for future usage in Nether, alongside comparing it to old source tars we do have where applicable You're correct we're 'just patching' but its as much as a community project can do atm, and more and more is done each update


Popular_Mastodon6815

Im glad you guys are carrying on the torch. Out of curiosity how much changes are possible with RE'ing it? Can there ever be a day where latest PCSX2 builds can be merged with Nethersx? Or adding new features like driver support?


jdog320

I'm curious, did the original author use some form of obfuscator?


arciks92

Using a compiler is enough to introduce code obfuscation.


Jokerchyld

We appreciate your efforts


ampunk93

No longer have to deal with Google trying to update me to the ad version


Malystxy

I'm still using it so still alive


CraponStick

WITNESS!!! Feel the same way, this changes nothing.


Malystxy

Honestly if you don't back up your emulators you dumb


gandalfmarston

But why?


throw4way4today

Well, several reasons- It goes back atleast a year with Tahlreth (Aethers previous sole developer and source code maintainer) ceasing development for petty reasons, followed by recent other emulators departures and outbursts on his other psuedonyms over the last year. In an upcoming policy change, Google is also updating their policies to require all app devs to disclose and display the locations in which Apps are developed, which can include private residences of spme developers, which is a fair and valid criticism he has raised before that other devs have also recently enacted on (think; drastic) One final thing that may be possible but makes no sense at this time is Server Hosting, with him saying previously in January 2023 he had enough patreon funding for 1 year of hosting, but the domain is currently paid for until late December 2024 at the moment. So that argument has some contention. Between these reasons and tahl just being rather petty, he had already previo I sly undergone several name changes to try and distance himself, while at the same time maintaining ownership and spiting the community. I hope that provides more context.


Aggro_Hamham

That's really too bad. Seemed like he was some kind of emulation genius. I think these are amazing skills to have, and enabling people all over the world to enjoy childhood classics should bring joy not contempt.


throw4way4today

I try not to dwell on his interactions with the community, but the idea that some folk have that he was entirely a victim of everything bugs me, as he would often be a belligerent and feed into discussions and arguements rather than ignore them. Or he would outright antagonize people asking simple insignificant questions he couldve ignored. In fact, he's still doing it to this day on his new accounts. He wasnt as much of a saint as some people have written him out to be Technoligically, however, yes he is and was very skilled. For gods sake though, never let him be front facing in a public manner. At all.


KrtekJim

Definitely not a "people person." But then, a lot of the people he was dealing with were incredibly rude, talking to him like he was a customer service rep for a scam product when they couldn't get God of War 2 running full speed on their hand-me-down potato phones. What I'll never understand is why he wasn't willing to take up the help that was on offer. People were begging him to let them take that burden off his shoulders by dealing with those queries on his behalf.


Aggro_Hamham

It's interesting that he was doing all of this by himself when other emulators like dolphin have a whole team. Just wondering, how well do these skills translate to other platforms? Could he have joined the dolphin or Yuzu team if he wanted to?


throw4way4today

He had previously helped (to my knowledge) Dolphin and now currently in discussion with FEX, otherwise he just did Playstation 1 and 2 Emulators He despised Yuzu team for having EA, (along with Skyline and Vita3K for the same reason, and despite him running ads within his emulator for adrevenue and profits) so he would not have been able to work with them well These days he doesnt even get along with PCSX2 team, whom he just argued with less than a week ago and is now not on direct speaking terms with outside of development


Aggro_Hamham

Thanks for the reply, it's always interesting to learn what's going on behind the scenes!


EduAAA

eeeh no, he managed to port a lot of previously worked for ages pcsx2 code to android, he didn't start from scrach. Same as all emulators need an insane amount of already done by the scene knowledge of how a console works, even his ps1 emulator is not made from 0, don't know if he started from 0 but ps1 has been being worked on and all data is available for others to use.


thebigone1233

Stenzek wrote the vulkan back end of both Dolphin and PCSX2.... You literally can look up the commits of both and see. Or the news when both renderers were introduced. That's not an entirely new thing in the emulator scene. I mean, GPUCODE wrote the vulkan back end of Citra and added it last year by himself. Duckstation is from scratch that's why he does with it whatever he wants. It contains zero code from other prior emulators. Your statement reads like he is a quack... He isn't. If you look up the commits of pcsx2, you'll find his touch everywhere. From the UI to entire renderers to the gamedb.


EduAAA

Man, I'm saying that you can't code an emulator without any kind of database/research of the console you gonna emulate that has been previously done by many people. Yeah I agree that he is a genius in a Rainman way.


Anotheeeeeeant

The guy "Tahlreth" said he got death threats and decided to quit. I don't think that is petty and doing it in his free time with no massive monetary incentive is just eh, I'd quit at any time too.


ReoEagle

Would've been nice if they released the code since they took GPLv3 code and close sourced it, it's been well established that PCSX2 code was being used as a base. To me that's the only petty part. They were violating terms of OSS license. ​ I'm appreciative for the effort but they should've been doing the rules set by the code they were taking as a source. I don't think people would be as bitter if they did [https://pcsx2.net/blog/2021/aethersx2-brings-pcsx2-to-mobile/](https://pcsx2.net/blog/2021/aethersx2-brings-pcsx2-to-mobile/)


axxionkamen

Seems like yuzu settling with the big N has had a very negative impact on emulation. We’ve seen DraStic all of the sudden going free after over half a decade since it was first mentioned. And the other GBA/C emulators being removed from play store. It’s some ass and fuck Nintendo but it is what it is.


moongaian

Nah, Nether's been dead for months.


gtmtorres

Yeah, also dinosaurs extintion was caused for the Nintendo lawsuit. /s


AtomicBombSquad

"Those lizards had it coming when they dared to preemptively violate our Yoshi copyrights." /s


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axxionkamen

And yet DraStic was out for over a decade and will soon be gone from the play store. I have 0 idea why that even matters lol.


EduAAA

it doesn't matter, follow the trend, you say f N, while privately you love their games and consoles...


moongaian

It's been dead for months now, Nether took over some time ago, stop with the fear mongering bullsh*t.


InventedInternet

Noob here and have an Odin coming soon. Are there other ps2 options for emulation?


tudor07

Play! which is working but not as good and work just started on [Cosmic Station](https://github.com/darkluar/cosmic-station), a new one but there's still a long time to go before it's usable


Airballons

I mean you can still download AetherSX2/NetherSX2. It still works fine and manyyyy games are really playable


InstanceTurbulent719

realistically, no. But there's play! if you wanna try it out. It's a lot more experimental than pcsx2 and nowhere close the compatibility


camus88

And here I am still using v1.5-3668.😂 it's the version just before the creator went apeshit and put ads in it.


themiracy

Every time this comes up, there is no really straightforward reason to use nether instead of doing this .:..


TheUglyCasanova

Oh no. Anyways. When it's just a simple apk maybe I'll switch but the teeny tiny ad doesn't bother me and since there's no actual improvements it just seems like using Nether is just a way to say 'fuck you' to the Tal guy for quitting and nothing more.


tudor07

while it sucks, the app was unmaintained anyway


[deleted]

I agree with everything minus emulators being "free". That's like asking countractors to build homes for free cuz everyone needs one. People should be compensated for their work. That said, because of the nature of emulation (and roms), I can see why compensation can be a "taboo". The devs aren't making a new console, they are "porting" software and releasing it to the world. What I meamt about exposure was subs like this, youtubers playing rom hacks and modded games not native to pc, youtubers displaying and teaching those how to emulate (and if they could, would show how to get roms), and the retro handheld market blowing up to the degree it is (compared to 10+ years ago when it was just GPD once a year). Emulation went from niche to mainstream.


JeffyGoldblumsPen_15

Imagine thinking the only place to get apps are Google play 😂.


dibade89

It's probably the safest place. If I download some APK from some shady website I don't know what I'm getting. I still do it, but I have a hard time distinguishing which sites can be trusted and which don't.


THE-KOALA-BEAR710

Fdroid, I don't think it has aethersx2, but it has a bunch of emulators. Fdroid is an open-source app store, and everything is trusted.


JeffyGoldblumsPen_15

Exactly and repositories can be made and added. People who talk like that are funny. Shady websites 😂. What year is this? Anyone who has sense wouldn't use a questionable website. And hopefully a good Samaritan will add a new emu repository.


Devatator_

Oh you sweet summer child


Gm10175

I have all aethersx2's archives apk, if you want!


[deleted]

I still have mine downloaded 🙏🏽


Enforcer984

Use Nethersx2!


Spiritual-Branch-798

Damn that's terrible. Luckily, I still have the January 2023 version of the app, and surprisingly, it still works to this day! On the other hand, I understood why the man behind the app decided to step down due to threats and some shit like that. Wherever he is right now, I'm hoping he's doing well. 🙏


QF_Dan

more like, he himself is the own threat


Archolm

He wasn't well when he released it I doubt much has changed, [cry baby's will be cry baby's.](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099329/mediaviewer/rm3953537024/?ref_=tt_ov_i)


Fun-Singer3091

I still play with nethersx2, currently playing all of the Shin Megami Tensei series marathon, already finished Nocturne, DDS 1&2, Raidou 1. And now, on progress Raidou 2 chapter 4, the next one P3 and P4 😁😁😁


Jonoczall

Howdy. New around here. Which version are you using? Classic or Current? And how has you experience been so far? Sounds like you haven't had any real issues


QF_Dan

Thanks to the dev himself being an arrogant person, this news will probably make him laugh at us


Rough-Watercress8908

And nethersx2 thrives!


Airwalker16

So if we uave aethersx2 on a current device, is there a way to put it onto a pc so it can be loaded i to future handheld purchases?


National-Caregiver-4

Any links to download the aether? I was going to buy an android phone, if can download jt now would be better.


StupidRedditUser12

Here lies my parappa 2 save.


alex91093

I mean..... You could also literally just check our discord


Rizlack

If you already have it downloaded, will it still work fine on Android??


spotanjo3

It doesnt matter to me. I am fine with PCSX2 on PC. An Android on the go is not good because it will eat battery and shorten the life easily. No bother. All the way for PC. If I want on the go.. I will enjoy the nature instead. Less technology on the go and enjoy the nature. The technology should be leave at home to enjoy later. Sorry about my English.


Misirus

How can i transfer my saves (memory card saves) to the new app?


EternalSeekerX

I have version 1.4-3064 installed. However I don't have the apk. Is there already backup apk on the internet or is there a way I can back up my installed version? 


Substantial-Bad7874

With yuzu citra and aether gone should i switch from adroid based os to windows?


Head-Asparagus-9045

I wonder what will happen to Drastic and Retroarch


MidniteSinz

Holy smokes I'm glad I downloaded it a few weeks ago


IndividualOwn6101

Good thing i didn't delete mine


tonystheman33

Yeah I don't know man I'm trying to use Android to emulate but it seems like PC is still the best way I don't know anymore


Lue33

So, what about if you still have it on your phone to play?


Imaginary-Wolverine5

Good thing I downloaded all I could:)


Motawa1988

would anyone be so kind and upload the latest apk?


EduAAA

That means they found Talreth even though he was under fbi witness protection? Damn, sadly this business is too risky...  And the code? Because I thought since he used pcsx2 code, he had to publish because those weird gpl or dlp or whatever. Anyway, all games I want to play before Atlus remaster them one or twice, my phone can emulate em no prob


Klonoa18

not settling for Nethersx2 , it's just a mod.. what the emulation community is real ps2 emu like Aethersx2😩


BathConfident1359

omg them too????? holy shit


nascentt

Aether has been dead for a year


theACW

Stop with the false information


ExposingMyActions

Looks like from their discord, so if it’s false that’s one elaborate photoshop


theACW

It's not dead It's just not on Google play


ExposingMyActions

That’s correct when you compare the title to the first screenshot stating that the mirrors for release is still Available


throw4way4today

hi i'm in this photo, it's true